The Emergency as a ‘University of Democracy’ & Indira Gandhi as its unwitting founder-Chancellor
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45 years ago today, Indira Gandhi imposed Emergency with the intention to crush the opposition's will, but ended up creating a credible, pan-national, pan-ideological cadre of new leaders. In episode 506 of ThePrint's #CutTheClutter, Shekhar Gupta uses Indian political history to explain how the Emergency ended up becoming a 'University of Democracy' and Mrs Gandhi’s jails became 'boot-camps' set for all her and her dynasty’s future adversaries.
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Shekhar Gupta just loves to brag about how old he is! 😂😂😂
Yes.. This is to say I have seen it all.
Exactly. That's what make us to think how expirenced he is
So sending Rahul Gandhi to jail is the only option he can learn politics !
Haha.. BJP is smart enough and it would not do it.
😂😂😂
LMAO!!!😂😂😂
Even modi is not in list...It doesn't mean he is novice in poltics and does not know about divide and rule tactics.
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WOW! Shekhar Sir, I must say you listen to your viewers. I know editing is a time-consuming process but your efforts to bring it around 9pm everyday is really commendable. Thank you for taking a note of our suggestion. Really looking forward to more.
SG is the go to man for Indian Political History. His anecdotes are absolutely brilliant.
Delhi politics only. He knows nothing about TN AP TL KT KERALA
@@sureshpolali4616 Though I disagree but I am surprised he didn't mention karunakaran and Congress (I) today.
@@dadhichabhishek386 He even forgot to mention that Kamarajar is known as the 'perunthalaivar' (great leader) in TN, yesterday.
@@dadhichabhishek386 He doesn't like us South Indians very much.
@@dadhichabhishek386 But, he did mention Congress (I) in passing, though. Dwelling too long on that wouldn't have served his purpose, you see.
Sir, Please do one episode on History of Student politics in India.
😂 funny to see congress calling Modi a dictator.. when Amma was the class teacher
I've no doubt, both Mrs. Gandhi and Mr. Modi are two sides of the same coin. But this time around, it's much more, not sure how to put it, maybe one of dangerous systematic disintegration. We'll never know until the whole thing comes crashing down. Such is the aura being built around one individual. The Media & the entire Govt. Machinery is on overdrive these days. Many might agree to disagree on this. But its Mr. Modi's time, alright.
@Aryan Sharma
Anyone who dont agree with leftist ideology is a bhakt?.
Ndtv quint print wire has proved why we need modi.
Silence on Kashmiri pandits.
Rise of islamic extremism
Not a single scam in past 6 years during modi regime
@@mystartup5986 Ever heard of the word "TRUTH"? Please don't get overly emotional like a Bhakt.
@@peaceBWY101 Andha Namazi
@@Nischaya789 🤣🤣🔥🔥👌👌
I have lived through the infamous emergency of 1975-77. I was youthful and employed during that period. The police would disperse youngsters standing and chatting in the street corners or chat shops. That was the degree of enforcement during this police raj. Post 1977 election, soon after Janata Government assumed power, the squabbles started. Typically, the disputants would go to JP who, at that time was ailing, and was in Jaslok Hospital. The joke amongst journalists and public was that Indian democracy has three Houses: Loksabha, Rajyasabha and Jaslok Sabha!
People of present generation who are interested in knowing of the excesses committed during the infamous Emergency should read Janardhan Thakur's "All the Prime Minister's Men"
There is some suggestion for you
1.Make CTC Monday to Friday
2. Take live question on Saturday(only Through superchat)
3. National interest sunday
Hope you like this
This is a really good suggestion.
LOL. The man needs a holiday.
Agreed
@@karthiknatarajan5902
ha ha ha good one!!
@@karthiknatarajan5902 I don't think journalists ever had holidays
Good spin with the word Mr Shekhar. Thats how you normalize biggest slot on democracy by calling it “university”!
He's talking about Mrs. Gandhi's mistake of calling for emergency and other assaults on democracy, which led to increased democracy in india. Nobody is going to listen and think acha normalize ho gaya :D
Did you *watched* and *analysed* the video with your *brain* ?
Everything doesn't need to be propaganda.
Abhishek S you dont need to show your brain right here! You can jolly well put back where it belongs! Learn some courtesy even if someone has argued against your belief! Too much to ask for from self styled learned person!
Aryan Sharma go and lecture someone else and try this propaganda somewhere! And there do a favor - tag yourself!
@@narenvaishnavi2659 I like your sense of humour and presenting the other side of the box which they try to hide, are u political science student ?? I'm Chartered accountant Student but too much interest in politics from last 6 months
How is jailing 13 year olds not crime againt humanity ? How is this funny .
Avengers assembled
Lol... well said
If you continue to this timing, I might donate a kidney to you if you want anytime!!
Lol!😂
😂🤣
Me too..
Jan De Denge Hum Iskeliye
Lmao
Congress immediately need to come out of the dynasty politics.. or else it goings to suffer more...
Rahul Gandhi needs to announce a Dalit or at least an OBC member as the next PM candidate. We've had enough of the brahmin national Congress' Brahmanwad.
Imayavaramban Nedunjezhiyan bhai tum kahte ho jatiwad mat karo fir brahmano ke piche kyo pade ho chamcho
Bhai fir tum chamche khangress ko vote kyo karte ho
@@darshankhandelwal7290 Fine, then. Ask them to ban the Manusmriti and we'll call it even.
@@darshankhandelwal7290 I'll vote for anyone who announces a Dalit as their PM candidate. Doesn't matter who that is or which does it.
One disagreement. Atal Bihari was a significant figure in Politics even during Nehru's time
@@mkganya6013 Nehru said this when Atal was just 33 in 1957 . He was d lead debator in Parliament in 1962( during india-sino war)
@@vikashrai1050 FYI: Nehru never said "future PM" in reference to Vajpayee. He merely said, "this young man has a bright future". This has been debunked by Vajpayee himself also.
@@shiprauppal3677 As I hv read while introducing the young Atal to a foreign dignitary in 1957 Nehru said this. Any basis for ur claim? I'm really interested
@@vikashrai1050 For one, you can look up lallantop's political kisse video tribute on Vajpayee's life journey. The presenter mentioned this. I also have read it in some books but can't point out which one exactly. Might be Kinshuk Nag . And if I remember correctly, Vajpayee said it in one of his Aap Ki Adalat interviews also but will certainly recheck on that.
Atal Bihari Vajpayee and pv Narasimha Rao best prime ministers ever of this country.
@UC_dO2_MDADcbPt8_hqm5jvg Yes Shastri too but his term was cut short by his mysterious death
@@indranuj38
Gujral, Devegoda, chandrashekhar
Not really mysterious, and not really death, you can probably say unenquired murder ?
@@abhishekkrishna3902 😂
Only PM Modi cares is the greatest PM because of demonetization, GST and unplanned lockdown lastly promoting peace with china by maintaining the status quo at LAC
Mr SG please give us some weekly book recommendations ! you quote some books during your CTCs but weekly recs would be nice ! you have a nice library in your office..perhaps u could start from there! ty!
i would love to read some books on india's politics and history.Shekar should give us some books to read
Hi! You might want to check out the Print's #SoftCover- an e-venue to release non-fiction books in collaboration with top publishing houses and engage in important conversations with the authors!
@@zebaahsan7396 i only see one book there ! thanks tho
Emergency also created new journalists 😀
Is there any journalist or politicians with guts today
@@studentsforeverparamahamsa8443 yes. Watch WION. You'll know. Politician, Subramanian Swamy.
There is no compassion only division
@@studentsforeverparamahamsa8443 what do u mean??!
@@savithas2028 I think he means' no one of the caliber of Atalji is left'.
Moral of the story: Jails create National leaders!😅
I was literally searching Shekhar ji in photos for half a minute.
surprise surprise... He had hairs back then...
He's like my Grandfather telling stories.
CTC= History+politics+world events and god knows what
If I may add to that: A generous dose of cricket analogies and occasionally a good deal of science too!
@@FarhanAmin1994 Wish it were 'a dose of' football analogies instead of cricket, though.
@Dharmvir Bharti I neither like playing nor watching cricket. Der Fussball ist das Spiel dass liebe ich am meisten. Moreover, both cricket as well as association football are of English origin. You like one and I like the other.
P.S.: The edit was necessitated by Segar Guptha and his piraameen paarppanaals who hide and delete my comments.
@@imayavarambannedunjezhiyan5222 Nahaaa Im good with cricket.
For the first time today, I think @theprint has wasted my time with the subtle justification of Indra Gandhi's wrongs.
Jyotiraditya Scindia or Madhavrao Scindia? Although he was never jailed. His mother was jailed and She was disappointed in her son.
Scindias have been both sides - even Madhavrao, once was against INC
Same thought came to my mind when I heard that list
India only started becoming a democracy after the emergency, before that it was a one party dictatorship, just like, Singapore, Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan etc.
Shekhar ji - this was a mass movement that led to many leaders
Also Shekhar ji - see, how i used to look back then, see!!
If emergency is the university of democracy Indira is principal and rahul gandhi is still a student failing again and again
@@sp-vi5he yes but he has no relavance
Recently one guy who attempted more than 20 times passed SSC exam without writing due to COVID. If this university cancels exam our young leader can pass without writing exam this time - THANKS to COVID -- EMERGENCY TO COVID a book can be written
@@sureshpolali4616 I think u should just look how politics works if u understand this then u will never blame politicians
@@mukulmittal9095 never attempted to understand politics as we can not wake up people who are pretending to be sleeping.
But.. I know for sure there is no Two TRUTH.
This post truth argument after 2014 win was bit too much for me digest
My wishful thinking is that there has to be huge entry barrier for politicians like that of IAS entrance and only quality people join politics
@@sureshpolali4616 that is your view but do not forget that 80 percent of Indians live in villages so by having these type of leaders we have succeeded as a democracy what u said is the demerit of democracy . I think we should not worry about it as we can do nothing to change this so just learn to deal with it
Brilliant Shekhar your style of defending Emergency and showing your loyalty towards Congress is laudable. Your unspoken logic that had Mrs. Gandhi did not declared emergency, their would not have been plethora of leaders.
Keep the dynasty alive. Let others be slaves. 😥 this passes for journalism in India.
Wow, you want to say.. we should thank Prime Minister Mrs.Gandhi for gifting us emergency .. thanks to you also
Mr Shekar Gupta, you are an asset to Indian Journalism. We are lucky to have you and watch your programmes. Please never ever be partial in your views. Slightest tinge of partiality is noticeable to anyone as your experience is like a white and pure cloth. Please struggle to keep it up!
They say “it just doesn’t get any better” but with Print - it always gets better and finer too! What a marvelous information!
@@aadi2456 I was born in 1975 - and all my education was in a government college and I joined in government service in 2005 and worked for 2 and a half years. To be honest, it was not a good experience - I was young and got frustrated many times in that short time.
SG
Don't twist facts with your intelligence ...in fact Emergency was imposed to supress these leaders..
Absolutely. SG giving a spin as of emergency was good thing to happen. Dhaag Achaa he advt of HUL
Please try and use your intelligence guys. Of course emergency was used to suppress leaders. But there is a thing called backfiring plan.
r/whoosh
My father is also one spent 2 months in jail with venkaya naidu ji during emergency he saw the blood on streets it was black days of india, we should respect them for their fighting spirit and sacrifice of life other wise we wouldn't have democracy today
How wonderfully has SG sugarcoated the whole Emergency thing. He says it was a blunder, it was the buggest political criminal act ever in India.
Imagine this being otherwise and how he’d have said.
Everybody knows that. He doesn't have to repeat that.
We survived 1975...2020 is nothing for us!
we hope so but u might be wrong. politics then wasnt as vicious and deadly as it is now-look at the # of brainwashed bhakts and jailed intellectuals and activists-just like mao zedong did in china and pol pot in vietnam/cambodia and any other other deadly dictatorships. its only coz india was a semblance of democracy until now its taking too long for rss/bjp to complete their nazi-style project. thats one mistake china made- it brought out the light on the army - until now no one cared abt the men we lose in j&k and china borders.and covid also showed up the govts failures and the way the selfless healthcare professionals work and the daily health-depts and corporation workers taking out our garbage everyday.
@Chirag Patel we dont lick anyone's boots, boy. read properly 'as vicious'. its all a question of degree-ofc IG's congis were the 1st mafia of this country -we know all that.the govt/police still had british hangovers and treated any dissident like insects to be quashed.but poison and terrorize the entire country this way??- from school kids to students to people thatve spent all their lives working for the oppressed against brutal regimes all thru the 70s -now that wasnt expected.what crimes the congis did during their rule is all concentrated in 6 yrs, so thats the capsule of history. with the social media now, the danger & bias and exposure to documentaries and fake news is manifold.
Dude, the Emergency was not the same in the South and the North.
@@ytadltspv abey chutiya, he/ she is is talking about corona virus or in general how bad this year is??
@@shivakumarvjit u f**g b*******.
You have forgotten to mention Venkaiah Naidu whom I met at Dwaraka hotel in Hyderabad in 1976. He told me that he was released from jail on parole. At my request, he just took buttermilk in the hotel and while going, he told me that he might not see light at the end of the tunnel of emergency. We both were from Andhra University. I supported JP and participated in the hot debate conducted by Karanjia of Blitz in 1975. My article was published in the centre page of Blitz. I argued that JP was strengthening democracy by attempting consolidation of fragmented opposition. I used read only Indian Express at that time. I still remember the front page caption in Indian Express after the rout of Mrs Gandhi . “Janata storms into Lok Sabha “.
I did my MBA from IGNOU.
Now Gupta ji is teaching me democracy at Indira Gandhi National University of Democracy
*Indira made a mistake by declaring emergency.* She should have followed the current government and she could have done pretty much the same thing with undeclared emergency!
It is so amazing to see how the incidents happening now are linked to an emergency!
Thank you
You might belong to any ideology...but cut the clutter is for everyone..Lot of respect to you Shekar ji
Beautiful episode...and very important in aspect of future politics of our country !!! great work !!!
Woww,The timing these day's is just perfect amazing!!Thanks a lot SG Ji
Black days in Indian history is emergency, just to retain her power congress party massacred the people and leaders using SPL rules.
Indians will never forgive this intentional bad incident
Love to see this report .. those marks the watershed moments of politics ..as he rightly said ! Emergency is the University for inclusivity and democracy .
Shekhar gupta smiled when he was showing old picture of him. ☺
Thank you for the history of emergency revealed so well in such a short time. Keep being amazing as you always are!
Excellent. Deep study in a very different and unique subject. Thanks
If SG has guts to cut the clutter on China and Rajiv Gandhi foundation signing the MOU in China in front that time vice-president of CCP Xi Jinping in 2006 😃
pinarayi Vijayan also jailed during emergency, now he is the chief Minister of Kerala
Do a CTC on Petrol and diesel prices in India.
Gupta ji, I would like to hear your analysis of division of Andhra Pradesh by congress government. After emergency I believe this of the biggest blunders committed my congress. Not the division itself but the way it was done. It would great to hear your analysis on the congress mindset pre and post to division. I believe its has impacted the power position of congress at national level by loosing 40plus Lok sabha seats.
So the next leaders-Chandrashekar Azad,Kanhaiya Kumar
Movement-Shaheeh Bagh movement✊✊✊✊✊✊
Lol..
Ghanta..🤣🤣
@@nikunjpatel4304 haslo ek din woh zaroor pm ban jaayega
Mahatma Gandhi made enough tents for them.. DEEP! 😂😂😂😂
I'm afraid it was 'a tent big enough for them'.
Superrrr Thank you so much Mr Shekharji for this
This episode is "putting lipstick on a pig". :-)
You exonerated the present congress family from their blunders. Good articulation.
23:03 Mr Shekar Gupta Sir looks like a rockstar back in 70's 😂 🤣
Basically , You want to say that Congress also established democracy in india , in term of emergency to raise opposition's leaders
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If Indra Gandi is the vice chancelor of University of Emergency Our current PM is also Vice chancelor of Correspondence University of Emergency as many people say. I dont know how many Graduates it will priduce.
Amazing curation sir. It couldn’t have been better than this.
As always some fantastic insights about 'Emergency' from Mr. Shekar Gupta..!!
At the regional level there is nothing like Tamil Nadu who produced mass leaders -- Annadurai, Karunanithi, MGR and Jayalalitha through the heady combination of film and caste politics (read anti brahminism). The phenomenon is continuing as Rajanikanth and Kamal Hassan are knocking at the doorstep of power. This is unique to Tamil Nadu and to a certain extent Andhra Pradesh. Don’t forget that these filmy people are ruling Tamil Nadu since 1967! Often wondered why the hugely popular BOLLYWOOD icons don’t have a go at the hustings😳😌l
You kept asking what is common between them for two minutes but the title clearly stated so
CZcams is a little different from television
P.S. - Excellent analysis 😎
Shekhar ji is more of a teacher than a Journalist. Respect and admiration from Bengaluru 🙏
Atalji is the person, who headed the team of MPs, protested against chu-an-lie visit in India.
After his visit, Nehru and menon gifted aksay chin to china bcz of their failure policies.
What a piece...sir... absolutely loved it... really appreciate it
In the hindsight it is indeed crazy that emergency created the entire opposition instead of destroying it.
Again one of the best CTC, great insight of our political leadership generation of post independent India 🇮🇳.
Shankarsinh Vagela started his political career with the Jana Sangh, which later evolved into the Janata Party. After Janata Party split into various factions, Vaghela became a senior leader of the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP). In 1996, he broke away from the BJP and formed the Rashtriya Janata Party.Thus during Emergency in 1976 he was part of Jana Sangh and only in 1997 he joined Indian National Congress.
You have forgot Vijay Rupani, Chief minister of my home state Gujarat. He was imprisoned for 11 months and was sent to the jails in Bhuj and Bhavnagar during the Emergency in 1976. Above all, Jana Sang and BJP’s tallest leader of Gujarat Chimanbhai Shukla was imprisoned for the maximum term of 19 months. This is not to criticize you but add my favourite leaders in that list. Thank You for reminding Emergency to this new whatsup university students. Nation needs more such articles from a person like you. Thanks.
I am a great admire of you Sir........ You should write few books on "Modern Political Growth and Political Economy of India".... It would be great if you please make a video on the "Role of Communist Party of India during Emergency"... I would love to watch more videos of your Investigative Journalism - all are very informative. If you kindly also put few good reference books (of every episode, you did for few though), which help me to read further on the issue of discussion, as well as it would helps students - who are preparing for UPSC, studying Pol Sc, Sociology, International Relations etc........ And sometimes, if you get some time, please reply to our comment, it encourage us to be connected with you........ Looking for your positive reply. Tk cr and stay safe.....:)
Sir you left out south and east India politics during emergency may be it's also very long you can't merge both in 20 minutes
South aur east ke log politics bht kam karte hai kaafi peaceful log hai isliye sunne me kam aata hai😃
Why the heck you calling him Sir, just because if he's speaking English doesn't mean he's right... Pathetic these guys are brainwashing common people of India..
If the Emergency was 'University of Democracy' then calling the current regime 'University of Emergency' would be apt, wouldn't it?
New crisis= Health emergency + Border tension + Recession; Time for Rahul Gandhi to consolidate his lessons from past mistakes. Arvind Kejriwal has opportunity too.
Game of thrones/power is also the game of patience. Those who have not succeeded till now at bigger stage cannot be deemed as failure. Only winners have everything to lose. Time is a factor that cannot be ignored. Everything is determined by:
1. Time
2. Probability
Both are nasty to change frequently.
Shekhar Sir , it's truly nice to hear you speak, u brought an era to us who don't even know an inch of "Emergency" thanks again for the video...
Omg , the experience you have is unmatched anywhere in India, glad to have you in the press corp
So to understand India in one line - Mandal and Mandir politics work nationwide but anti corruption works sporadically! Every culture has a destination! Ours is one unique nation!
One can see many parallels between the conditions in India and the conditions that existed in the USSR prior to its disintegration.
1. Demoralized and overwhelmed military led by incompetent Generals.
2. Economy in doldrums.
3. Extreme disharmony fueled by hate and bigotry.
4. Incompetence and corruption at all levels of government.
5. Independence movements in many parts of the country.
6. Controlled media which lied, lied, and lied.
7. Taliban on the offensive (in India, Taliban seem ready to assault)
8. True leadership vacuum
9. Widen differences between rich and poor
10. Poverty bordering on criminality.
11. Extremist political party in power.
Adios Modios.
"Two very respected" dissidents, Yogendra Yadav & Prashant Bhushan..... respected by who exactly?
No mention of DMK, a victim of emergency.is it journalism?
Telugu Desam do you know when was it formed BY NTR?
Really fascinating episode. You are an institution.
Sri Jagjeevan Ram quit Congress only when the Election was declared in 1977.
This is the very first time i am hearing something +ve about the emergency. Shekar Sir, looks things from different perspective and sanguine as always.
Indeed,Good work sir .
One of your best videos SG, I have to say I'm impressed.
Today's episode was commendable, Sir. Finally we came across a new perspective on Emergency, other than those negative narratives.
wonderful Shekar !! keep going ...
One of the names missed out in this video would be that of Pinarayi Vijayan. When emergency was declared, CPI-M stalwarts like EMS, AKG, VS Achuthanandan, etc were jailed. Pinarayi Vijayan was the the young MLA representing Koothupparamba who was beaten black and blue by the police. The powerful speech he made in the Kerala legislative assembly with his bloodstained shirt imprinted his name in the minds of every Keralite back then. The Congress were in alliance with CPI under the "United Front" while the CPI-M was in opposition. C Achuta Menon (CPI) was the CM and K Karunakaran (INC) the home minister. Compared to north India, Kerala didn't suffer much under Emergency and that's the reason why it re-elected Congress (this time Karunakaran as CM). It'd be wrong to say that police excesses didn't happen during the 21 month period in Kerala; Rajan murder is the most infamous case related to police brutality during Emergency. A brilliant movie named Piravi had been made depicting the helplessness Rajan's father had to endure during the period.
Another interesting fact related to Emergency I read is that, all through emergency Indira couldn't enter JNU (a Left bastion right from those times). Even after the loss in the 1977 elections, she held on to the post of chancellor of the university and it was only after a protest led by the then JNUSU President Sitaram Yechury that she resigned.
Whatever may be with rich heritage of 5000 yrs we generated 80 crs bpl card holders 20 crs rich (accounted unaccounted plus agri based) 35 crs middle class struggling to meet the end. Time to think in right direction in the interest of this country
Very interesting
To sum up, the Emergency was the biggest positive for India post independence.
U are real congressi glorifying emergency 🤣
Covid seems to be the next creator of leaders
everyone's gangsta until young Modi walks in
Background scene is paradise on earth. Love it.
SG is Highly experienced jurno and provides good narration on many issues..
Shekhar ji would be the Charles Xavier of the Indian politics. He just knows everything.
Your post as the National Spokesperson of Indian National Congress should be made official. More power to you!
Sir correction:. Vaghela (Bapu) went from congress to NCP and recently left NCP.
Meanwhile Maya Sarabhai's advice speaking Vaghela left BJP to Congress is vernacularly Internet explorer speed...
Gupta sir: Perhaps one day you can inform the public what actually happened during the Emergency? I was a young kid during those days but even I remember the atmosphere of fear, in Delhi, at that time. Better still, why don't you get one of the Nehru-Gandhi family members from Congress I to come & inform us all about what their uncle/brother-in-law Sanjay Gandhi did to the people of our country during those dark days? No, I'm not a BJP voter but fair's fair. The people of India have spoken & twice elected BJP. Congress I is just a lousy opposition party. Good government deserves & requires good opposition. Currently, there is no opposition at the Centre. The people of India demand a good opposition.
Amazing Shekhar! You remembered to bring up this Emergency. I was in engineering college!! We played some role opposing emergency, and the elections afterwards.