XICOY X45 MICRO TURBOPROP - Unboxing, Test Run and Review - By Gaspar
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- čas přidán 23. 08. 2024
- #xicoy #gaspar #turboprop After the success of the XICOY X45 Standard Test Video I was very excited to be able to Unbox, Test Run and Review this Xicoy Turboprop Version! It was very scary! Enjoy and thanks for watching!
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My Findings
- Xicoy X45TP 1,671Grams/3.68Lbs
- Fuel Pump 29 Grams
- ECU/DRM 22 Grams
- Washer/Bolt 36 Grams
- Cable Set 65 Grams
TOTAL WEIGHT OF THE PACKAGE 1,829 Grams/4.03 Lbs
Features and Functions from Manufacture
• Tiny 60mm case 2 stage engine developing up to 5kw of shaft power
• Very low installed weight and bulk
• Heli gearbox outline and shaft matches standard 90 size heli glow engine
• Turboprop version comes complete with bulkhead mounting
• Turboprop option of two reduction ratios: Hi = circa 6k and Lo = circa 8k
• 2nd stage rpm feedback to ECU for constant speed governor function (heli)
• Gearbox over-speed protection function
• Gearbox output rpm and temperature included in telemetry feedback
• Accommodates wide presettable range of helicopter reduction ratios
• Peak power user presettable
• Valves and ECU installed on-engine
• Internal kero burner and thermocouple for clean exterior
• Compatible with diesel and kerosene
• Incredible start to idle of less than 25secs
• Fast spoolup to flight rpms
• Automatic cooldown after run, even with receiver power turned off
• Automatic battery disconnection after cooldown
• Brushless high speed starter
• Tiny intelligent brushless fuel pump
• High speed digital control of all components
• Gearbox uses lubrication from engine, no separate oil required
• Choice of display options, on and off board and Bluetooth Android/iPhone
• Telemetry options available for most modern transmitters
Performance, weights and measures
X45 TurboProp
Nominal power at sea level 5kw/6.7hp
Idle shaft rpm 1200 low 11.1:1 ratio. 1000 high 13.5:1 ratio
Torque at max rpm 6.25Nm (55.3 lb ins) (low ratio) 8.33Nm (71.2 lb ins) (high ratio)
EGT at max power 350-450C 550 - 700´C
Fuel consumption at max power 150ml/min / 5oz per min
Restart capability Off, manual & automatic
Fuel Kerosene or diesel Kerosene or diesel
Oil mix required 4%, see text for breakdown 4%, see text for breakdown
Overall length: 320mm/12.6”
Width across exhausts: 120mm/4.75” 120mm/4.75”
Width main body: 72mm / 2.83” (mounting)
Firewall to rear of prop distance 160mm / 6.3”
Gearbox output shaft: Dia 10mm plain portion, threaded M8x1.25 internally for M8 cap bolt
Gearbox mounting holes: 4 off dia 5mm, W86-90mm x H50mm (0.2”, 2” x 3.38-3.54”)
Firewall cutout required: W72mm x H70mm (2.83”x 2.75”)
Unit weight bare 1470g/51.7oz (inc mounting)
Ancilliaries + Compact Hub 70g/2.5oz
Hub Lite + display 86g/3oz
Hub Lite, no display 62g/2.2oz
Airborne weight 1532g - 1556g (inc mounting)
53.9oz - 54.7oz (inc mounting)
Suitable ECU battery: 2S Lipo, min cap 1200mAh (recommended)
3S LiFe, min cap 1500mAh
Many have been waiting for this! It was Fun and Scary to fire this outstanding engine up and test it out! It will be going in the Sebart PC-21 Very soon! Thanks for watching!
Thanks Jonathan, much appreciated.
Wow. I remember when rc turbine engines were new and amazing. They still are amazing, but you get what I’m saying. An RC turboprop is SO cool and will bring another bit of realism to a lot of these models.
Oh I totally get it John! The technology now is so dang cool! makes the hobby more fun!
Wow!!! That will be great to have on the front of the PC, it will fly it with authority
Another great review Jonathan! Thanks
Thanks Steve.
A ton of things going on during that test run up. Amazing piece of technology! Loved the walk through and overview! Keep them coming!
Thank you David! Yea adding that prop on the front adds lots of extra stuff going on! Thanks for watching!
That is insanely crazy I just love the power it puts out .for a engine that small I am just in press and all most up against the wall .And the test bench is fantastic be safe with the fans. Bless you're skills
Thanks Elvin! Yea it's a stunning piece of equipment!
Very impressive turbo-prop engine. Some amazing technology, thanks for creating this video.
You bet! Thanks for watching!
What a response to full power! Very impressive.
Scary!
You're doing great and congratulations on your perfect testing
Thank you!
If someone from the 1940's watched this they would think it was some kind sci fi fantasy thing, watching hd color film on a small handheld electronic device of someone ordering a turbo prop engine and having it delivered to thier house, I want to be alive in 80 years to see the advancement in tech.
HAHA. No kidding! Mind Blown!
The new "flying bench" by Jonathan. Now, you can fly with Sir Bronson" in space !!! Hi my friend
Haha. Totally! 😂😂
@@thelightersideofrc is it possible to have an after burner on such turboprops??
I know turboshaft engines with the propeller in the front and the exhaust in the rear like the thunderscreech
But is it possible to add 2 afterburner one on the left and one on the right in this engine
What a test run!!! Very nice! Keep up the good work.
Thank you very much! Thanks for watching!
This is the content I long for
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This is what I'm going to buy for my living room fan
Haha. Just make sure to keep fingers away!😂
I really need a turbine something in the Hangar, maybe not even stick it in a plane. Just have some me time with power. Great video 👍🏻
Haha. Fun to just play with! Thanks 😊
I agreed
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Very exciting. You may use a Raspberry Pi board with a camera to allow you safely read difficult data. Dronebot, Explaining Computers,
both on CZcams, have done great work on this topic.
Thanks for the tip!
Glad to see the shop videos coming back. Not gonna lie, I don’t really watch the flying videos because they are a dime a dozen.
Thanks for the input and I hear you and agree! 😎
Thanks so much for your channel. Love your tests and how scientific they are; I am trying to find a small to mid size turbine to add to an Electric Vehicle to be used as a 'range extender' and assist in charging batteries - especially as it is a KITT from Knight Rider and he used a "turbine" as well! ;) Maybe one day I will get it working.
Thanks Richard! I appreciate the kind words and thanks for watching!
John ! Just got my very first turbine a Swiwin 60b going to start off with a Foamy . Thanks for the tips !
Awesome! Enjoy 😎
Showed this to my dad and he’s now trying to figure out building an AC-130J with 6 blade variable pitch propellers…
Go figure… forever Air Force.
HAHA. Of course he is! Sounds like a perfect project!
It would be cool if somebody would put something like this in a non-aero application (boat, tank(M1!)) obviously some sort of transmission would need to be fabricated. I have zero fab experience/tooling. My curse is a very active imagination. Keep up the good work, fun stuff!
That would be cool! It's always fun to see what people come up with and what can be created! Thanks for checking things out!
Awesome
Thanks!
This is epic! So cool man.
Thanks!😊
Well that was satisfying. Thanks for risking your life for my entertainment. I’ve wanted a turbine to run in my garage for years. Any suggestions on where to find something used or damaged?
HAHA. Thanks Ryan. Glad I could help😂. Can find good deals on stuff at RCGroups Board.
Игорь, только спокойствие!)))
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Cool test bench with the strain gage.
Thanks 😊
Bravo..............wow .......craftsman clever........cheers
Thanks.
The neighbor across the street would like to thank you for blowing all the leaves off of his lawn.
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Very cool!
Thanks David.
Would this be a good candidate for the PC-6 120". It looks like it was made for the PC-6. Beautiful engine and the power is quite impressive for its size.
Great option for the pc6! You would want to get the other model for slower prop speed! It’s a powerhouse!
way better, or much better
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Nice video report.
Thanks 😊
One, Tether the bench to something, like a car. Two, have a test bench with a wider stance. You could torque that bench over. That’s a 7.5 hp motor! That’s like having a 50cc engine on there.
Agreed! Scary stuff! 😎
wow - I want that Snowbirds Tutor! haha
Well….. everything is for sale for the right price!
@@thelightersideofrc hahaha 😆 what's the right price
Lol. If you are interested shoot me an email. Price one out and make me an offer!
I think I'll keep my RC cars and my fingers.
Haha. Respect the prop!!!
Awesome video
This thing is wicked
Thanks!😊
Very nice video. You've earned yourself a sub
Thanks Jaden😎
Seems very responsive spool up time. Impressed.
It's a great little engine! First flight video out tomorrow!
That's scary bad ass
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You need a harbor freight sand blasting cabinet to use as a test bench for these things. Just change the plexiglass out for lexan.
Good idea!
great video thank you
Thanks for watching 😎
CZcams occasionally sends me a gem. This was it.
Years ago I saw a kit for turbines, but for boats with twin Z-drives.
Is there any way to make this a pusher setup? Or does it have to be that way for packaging or cooling?
Good question. i'm not familiar with the boat side but i'm sure it could be rigged up with something. Cooling is key. depending on the model shaft rpm would be 6000 to 8000 range.
I would put a variable pitch contra prop setup on it. Antonov An-22 or 70 style
Thanks! Yea we have a 5 blade variable for it.
@@thelightersideofrc Counter-rotating?
Thank you very much for the Arabic translation
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@@thelightersideofrc Why is the subtitles missing from the video now?😭😭
wow!!!!
Thanks 😊. Love the name!😂
I am considering a CARF SF240 TP Marchetti project. Prop advised to be a Biela 24x13 3 blades. Do you think the Xicoy would be a good fit ? The kit is said to be designed for a SPT5 but I very much like the framework on the Xicoy.
Best thing to do is take a look at the power figures between the various engines. If the X45TP is within the range then it would be a solid choice! I think this specific engine is up to the 11 ish hour range and still working beautifully in Steves PC-21
Just found your channel. Very informative. I've been thinking of dipping my toe into the turbine space for a few years now. I'm in Canada. Do you have any idea where the best place to find one of these X45's?
Thanks William! Where are you located? I generally order right from the factory. There is a U.S. fellow but his orders are generally shipped right from the factory
@@thelightersideofrc Edmonton AB
I have a 4 blade 25x12 propeller on my JetCat SPT 5. I think the 20x12 is definitely too small :D.
But it was again a great video.
Yea it is small to have set to max power. Problem with the Sebart pc21 is ground clearance. The vario 5 blade will be a nice touch for this combo I think.
I was wondering if he calculated tip speed on that prop choice. Sounded odd at hi rpm but maybe it was just the echo from being in a garage.
Yea the camera and mic’s don’t like turbines once they spool up. Never an accurate representation of the actual sound.
Just discovered this channel. Looks interesting, I fly drones and fixed wing slope soarers. No engines yet since as a kid they were expensive and smelly and covered in fuel and what-not. 👍🇬🇧 What happened to your left hand?
Glad you found the channel and thanks for watching! I was born that way. Probably easier as I have never known otherwise!
@@thelightersideofrc I can’t have been the first person to connect (1) powerful turbines and turboprops and missing fingers (1) and come to the conclusion of: “related accident” (3) I appreciate your directness and I love your channel. ❤️👍
Coolest
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At those RPM's I will be shocked if the gearbox holds up without some sort of cooling. I am hearing things in the audio that sound like gearbox noise as well, and if that's the case I wouldn't expect many flights out of that part. The rest of the motor seems well built, it starts quickly (you might be going to full temps a little quickly for my taste honestly), and the throttle response is incredible. Overall this seems like a great product that might need a better gearbox.
Keep in mind with these turbo props that the gear box is cooled and lubricated with fuel. On the larger models, the fuel runs through the gear box prior to going in the engine reducing heat. This new generation of Turbo Props have been amazing. This video was from a couple years ago and this exact turbo prop now has over 15 ish hours on it and still working great!
Cool pls where can I order these from ??? I seriously need it
Thanks. Check out the Xicoy website
I'm looking for a kit to build for use with this turbine. Did you happen to make any runs with the turbine around the lowest 2kW power setting? I'm curious if I can use it with a 16-10 three blade prop in a Top Flite T34 which has a 80in wingspan (and flies quite well with a 20-25cc engine putting out about 2.0kW). Can't seem to find any other kit with a tricycle landing gear.
Hello Fazeel. Unfortunately no. Didn’t do any low power runs. If you do a bit of digging on the web you may be able to find some low power prop combo info. Unfortunately with this engine being so new there is not a lot of info floating around
Camo Crocs FTW!
YEA!!!!!😎😊
Brilliant - now we know why testers sit in a streamlined cell with a windscreen and maybe tail feathers and wings!!! lol
Haha 😂
Nice job, I need to get plane I can put that turbine in.
You will be very impressed with this unit!
I just installed one of these on my drill!
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That would be awesome for a boat.
Heck yea!!!
Hi Jonathan,
I saw 30.0 lbs thrust at the 20:15 mark, but don't know the rpm. You and Katie stay safe.
Yea and that wasn't even close to max RPM. I bumped it up to 225K but for the first hour your supposed to keep it under 200k. It was just slightly over. I think with the right prop and once the Turbine RPM is upped we should easily get upper 30's maybe even hit the 40 mark!
I want that bench bolted to the ground. Sketchy.
Oh! ME TOO! 😳
You could have kept the phone high outside the air from the prop and used the zoom function from above.
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Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about, and mean no disrespect, but it just seems that tech savvy people don't seem to use common sense, If they would just stop and think if the wind is in your way of reading your instruments!? Wouldn't it be better to build your engine platform with the wind blast, and engine at a 90 degree angle on your board, for your wind steam prop blast to be out of the instruments readings your trying to see and read!? and if the power of the turbine is so strong, you could back your vehicle up next to the door and chain, or cable it to your car frame to keep it from tipping, or moving, or even putting a cement eyebolt drilled into your cement floor that can be screwed in and taken back out when not in use so people don't trip on the eyebolt, or bolts!? Just some ideas, and food for thought! Very cool engine!
All your suggestions are great! Main reason is i'm too lazy and possibly too busy to spend hours working on that stuff when I just want to get the dang engine in the plane! lol.
@@thelightersideofrc I think we are all lazy, and I'm the same way as probable many of us are! All in a hurry to get the work done to enjoy the toy! Again I meant no disrespect as I read the way I said what I said, and it DID SOUND BAD, EVEN TOO ME! for that I apologize for the way it sounded bad! Just thought your hands would be more free to do what you need to do, without having to hold your platform in place with your foot too! and out of the jet, or prop blast to read your instruments. I admit that sometimes when I watch your videos on these engines, I myself fast forward to see the engines run! lol
Very dumb question, but I’m about to hook one of these to a generator head…. Do I need an RC remote or is there another wired throttle control I can get?
You can also get a throttle channel box. I’ve seen them on Dreamworks website
@@thelightersideofrc awesome thank you
That is just a hub, the ECU is on the motor and the hub is just a connection point
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Hi I am wondering if this engine was the low reduction or high reduction cheers
Hello Wes. It is the higher RPM version.
Nice but spendy piece of kit.
BTW, I always thought it was pronounced like z-eye-coy, but it's actually pronounced zee-coy.
Also, the ecu is under the front cover of the turbine. The hand held display is the data hub.
Yea Spendy but very well made! Thanks for watching!
DOSENT MATTER THAT YOU DIDENT GET HER TO FULL, I GOT A TINGEL DOWN MY SPINE WHEN U THROTTLED UP, THE SOUND SHE MAKES WOULD FRIGHTEN SOME ONE THAT DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS, AND I THOUGHT U WERE GOING TO BE BLOWEN OF UR FEET, TALK ABOUT POWER! WOW WAT A BUZZZZ😱😲🤯✌💪👍😁****8888****
Yea this thing is a power house!
On throttle what’s the delay from movements to engine throttle settings
Sorry can’t remember what settings were at. The throttle response is quick!
Has the prop been balanced? If not whoo danger will Robinson
Yes.
Hey Sir. I was in the U.S Marine Corps. Got a question. Can you put this engine in a helicopter? I don't know to much about RC engines. Sorry if this is a dumb question. Great video. This is the first time watching your channel.
Hey James. Not a dumb question at all. Xicoy makes this same configuration for a Heli setup. Instead of the shaft coming straight out it makes a 90 degree bent up. If you look at the box during the first part of the video the Heli engine is pictured there. Thanks for watching 😎
@@thelightersideofrc Thank you SO much. I will subscribe to your channel.
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@@jamesmaroon6161 hi! For future reference, turboprop is for airplanes, _turboshaft_ is for helos! Same type of engine, just different type of power take off. Hope this was useful!
Question : I would like to make an Allison engine for a C130/p3 Orion (constant speed variable pitch) Turbo prop , Is it possible? No side exhaust,
Straight exhaust,4 blade variable pitch blade.
I’m sure it’s possible. Anything is possible with enough $$$
Tell me what do they cost then and can i attach a generator on them ronadam
Check the xicoy website!
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@@thelightersideofrc 💝💝
What would be the results of a turbo prop in a cesna 150
Not sure but any plane is cooler with a turbo prop!!!😎
wanna try diy simple turbine, if you have a lathe or a cnc mill, tesla turbine centrifugal compressor center-in rim-out jet, want to test that when I get my first engine made
Sounds like a cool project! Always up for testing cool stuff!
@@thelightersideofrc same for electric sling jet turbine, using aluminium-air batteries, same energy density as gasoline
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Please test this engine with a 5 blade prop as the PC-21 comes with a five blade propeller. I would like to know the actual thrust with a 5 blade prop not for RC planes but for another type of air vehicle. Thanks
Engine is currently mounted in the PC21 with a vario 5 blade prop and it's got gobs of power!
@@thelightersideofrc Do you have actual thrust values with the 5 blade prop?
could reverse prop help? what is the consumption meant to be? what is the cost?
It’s pretty fuel efficient for the power your getting from it. Best to check the Xicoy website
I thought the prop was supposed to cant to the right a couple degrees?
It’s built into the mount in the aircraft
Hello, is there a US based Xicoy dealer where I can buy one of these?
AeroPanda.
@@thelightersideofrc thank you. It seems it’s hit or miss on stock( on the internet searches). Do you know if they are available to ship?
Who made that test bench?
My friend Joe who does all my 3D printing
Considering how cheap these are, for shits and giggles I might need to make my own dual engine turboprop or turbine paramotor.
That would be a cool project!
Imagine 4, or even 8 of these-
in a Drone?
Haha. Very cool site to see!
Find small turbo. Size of exhaust then run tubing to modified intake. Turbo prop? Too bad can’t do counter rotating props, increases thrust.
Thanks Donald! Always room for cool ideas to come true!
I Wana put one of those on an ultralight
DO IT!!!!!
Safest place must be in front of the propeller. Any debris will get blown backwards and out to the sides.
HAHA. I dont know if there is any safe place. In front and what if prop lets go. Behind hot exhaust! 😄
Build a pusher and attach it on your back do some parasailing beautiful ronadam
How much is it to build an RC plane with a turbine? I built a real flying aircraft with avionics and engine and airframe for 32,000.00 but it's a real plane..
It can be anywhere from $5000 to $25000 as a typical range. Different sort of rush flying from the ground!
So sweet mechanical engeneering jewellery!
It really is!
Waiting for the bench to move
HAHA. No Kidding!
Hey ......thinkn blast barrier and fire proof leather........safety.......c
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I used this to turn my fan when it gets hot.
Haha.
@@user-ix5qy7um6o it's a joke
Hlw bro. What is the price this engine?
Check on the Xicoy website.
arent turbo prop supposed to have variable pitch blade?
Full scale yes. In models probably possible but not easily. We will be using a variable pitch prop on the install on the. PC21 but it will be fixed variable not in flight variable.
let it do full power
We will! After the 60 min break in period
I wonder how long it's combustor will last..?..China doesn't do metallurgy...😳🇬🇧
Not sure where all the parts are coming from but the chamber is made from inconel
@@thelightersideofrc Yes, I seem to recall Jetcat claiming similar...They used to eat their combustors too...😳😳😄🇬🇧
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HI I SHOULD BE WORKING, NOT WATCHING THIS, U GOT ME HOOKED,, THAT ENGINE IS A MASTER PAECE, LOOKS REALY LIGHT🙏🌎✌💪👍****8888****
HAHA! Thanks for watching Chris!
Could this thing run on regular gasoline?
No. Jet A/Kerosene or Diesel.
@@thelightersideofrc Diesel would work too. Thanks. Wondering how much power you could get out of it as a generator since they are about twice as efficient as any internal combustion engine.
I need to develop something that can use this powerplant...
Heck Yea!
can i get this in my lawn mower?
Why ?
🤔 Maybe if your going for the most expensive lawn mower ever!
Brother this jet engine how much?
Check it out on the Xicoy website
Just wanna see the dam thing start up, holy crap man!grrr
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