20,000 Mile Coolant Change | GSX-S750 / GSR750

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  • čas přidán 2. 03. 2021
  • The manual calls for an ethylene glycol based antifreeze coolant change at 14,500 miles. I'm a little late! Time to get this done.
    This is the coolant I purchased: Qty 2 - Maxima Motorcycle Coolant: amzn.to/2PxBb1X
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Komentáře • 121

  • @minc3
    @minc3 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Love to see how you treat your bike. Very neat very precise. No need fancy modifications but pure clean routine maintenance. 🎉

    • @sstressfl
      @sstressfl  Před 6 měsíci +1

      In the "old days" affordable mods made huge improvements. Now its extremely expensive to see any real gains in hp over stock. I just like to make minor tweaks to make it run a little better and then maintain peak performance on all systems. Very rewarding. Appreciate the feedback 🙏

    • @minc3
      @minc3 Před 6 měsíci

      @@sstressfl yes indeed very rewarding and satisfying. Keep it up and may you have a great day ahead 💪

  • @9al372
    @9al372 Před 3 lety

    You did a great job, thank you for sharing this experience. ☺️👍

  • @pmgmotorcycles
    @pmgmotorcycles Před 2 lety +1

    Great video! It help me a lot. Please continue doing more like this. Thanks!

    • @sstressfl
      @sstressfl  Před 2 lety +1

      I try to record any maintenance I do! Great to hear this video helped you. Thanks for the feedback!

  • @bazm9213
    @bazm9213 Před 3 lety +1

    Great informative vid, another job done 👍🏻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @ajrank
    @ajrank Před rokem +2

    This was perfect. Just what I needed to know for me to service my bike.

    • @sstressfl
      @sstressfl  Před rokem

      Awesome! And thank you for taking time to send me feedback! 🙏

  • @RyanTebow
    @RyanTebow Před 2 lety

    Watching all these videos on this bike I haven’t even got yet lol thank you so much

    • @sstressfl
      @sstressfl  Před 2 lety +1

      Ohhh man when you do get it, you won't be disappointed 💪😎 Thanks for the feedback!!

  • @Rhum188
    @Rhum188 Před rokem

    Such a perfect tutorial, thanks man really appreciated !

  • @SevenFortyOne
    @SevenFortyOne Před 3 lety +1

    After watching all of these maintenance videos you've been making I'm kicking myself for not putting my bike in the (walk-out) cellar where its warm so I could work on it during the winter. Its out in the cold garage with no wheels on it now waiting for me to start all of the projects you've already finished. I'm hoping the weather warms up in a week or two so I can get caught up!

    • @sstressfl
      @sstressfl  Před 3 lety

      You’ll have time! We usually have a lot of rain before REAL riding season kicks in 😎 but next year... 👍👌

  • @erccctv9293
    @erccctv9293 Před 3 lety +1

    Hi Michael great videos thank you i have recently purchased a Suzuki 750 but in Scotland we call it a GSR 750 mine is a 2014 plate. i am just starting thje same projects changing fluids those head bearing defo need looked at but thanks for the videos they are a great help keep posting and Thank you from Scotland god bless

    • @sstressfl
      @sstressfl  Před 3 lety

      Congratulations on the bike! I imagine Scotland has amazing roads to explore. So glad the videos are a help! And thank you for the feedback. Much appreciated. God bless you too brother 🙏👍

  • @ThePrincehAli
    @ThePrincehAli Před 3 lety

    Thank you for that video, I've done everything else, just the coolant left now, so gonna order that and change mine, bought the bike in July 2020, so I don't know when the last time it was changed. I love the fact you share Torque settings, most people just make the videos but yours are detailed so anyone can do it.

    • @sstressfl
      @sstressfl  Před 3 lety +1

      That’s great feedback! I’m so glad to hear the videos are a real help! I believe diy is very fulfilling and anyone can do this stuff. And thanks to CZcams we have access to the worlds largest classroom 😃💪👍 Be safe out there 🙏😎

    • @ThePrincehAli
      @ThePrincehAli Před 3 lety

      @@sstressfl Yes great help, appreciate the hard work you put in the videos, they're not easy. DIY is definitely fulfilling and also you get to know your bike more than just getting a mechanic to do it for you.

  • @Aj-om4dt
    @Aj-om4dt Před rokem

    Thanks for making this video dude. It’s great to know how it’s correctly done.
    I just picked up a 2017 Suzuki GSXS 750 with just 3,000 miles with 2 owners (1 being the dealership where I bought it from) I paid £6,649
    It’s in red & black with the black windscreen & a tail tidy & after market slip on exhaust.
    It’s my 1st Bigboy bike & is only coming out on nice days 🥳👍

    • @sstressfl
      @sstressfl  Před rokem

      I am totally geeked for you! The gsxs750 is an amazing bike and you got one with LOW miles!! Enjoy and stay safe my friend! Thank you for the feedback 🙏

  • @redhytech
    @redhytech Před 6 dny

    what is the 'normal' operating temp of the GSX-S750? what temp does the thermostat open? what temp does the cooling fan kick on?
    these are the numbers from the repair manual.
    fan - 'on' 221F, 'off' 212F.
    thermostat - 176.9 - 182.3 F
    coolant fluid
    engine - 2.73 QUART(us)
    reservoir - 0.24 QUART(us)

  • @philhill7973
    @philhill7973 Před 7 měsíci

    The reservoir bottle should be at high when the engine is hot and low when cold . It’s an expansion bottle in essence.

  • @ksiom18patch82
    @ksiom18patch82 Před rokem

    Great video.

  • @louisilic666
    @louisilic666 Před 3 lety

    Dude, I can definitely tell you consider your bike like another child. No doubt your children have the worlds greatest dad! And your bike too!

    • @sstressfl
      @sstressfl  Před 3 lety +1

      That’s really nice to say! My bike is so much fun and I like it when it feels perfectly tuned. And oh wow I love my kids. I ask the Lord to help me be a good Dad, to guide me, and I pray for them frequently. Thank you for your feedback. I appreciate your encouraging words 🙏✌️

  • @davidkillington-hayward6130

    I love watching your videos dude, your is definitely my goto channel your tutorials is just spot on.. Have you been able to get a shop manual from somewhere as I can't find it anywhere.

    • @sstressfl
      @sstressfl  Před 3 lety +1

      Thank you 🙏 this is where I got mine www.service-shop-repair-manual.com/ It’s a must have!

    • @davidkillington-hayward6130
      @davidkillington-hayward6130 Před 3 lety +1

      @@sstressfl thank you I've been searching for a long time and hoping haynes would do one

  • @raultarufetivargas3571

    Un video muy util.Muchas gracias.

  • @louisilic666
    @louisilic666 Před 3 lety +1

    Just noticed the connection hose between both front calipers, is there anything in the kit that came to neaten it up as it looks like it could be flapping about over the front fender? Another great video by the way. The breaided brake line vid was awesome too!

    • @sstressfl
      @sstressfl  Před 3 lety +1

      I have not re-attached it yet :) I need to have my new tires installed on my wheels and when I get that done I'll do a final assembly.

  • @mpepio33
    @mpepio33 Před rokem

    thank you this was helpful! wouldn't have hurt including the fairing removal .

    • @sstressfl
      @sstressfl  Před rokem

      This video is part of a complete rebuild/refresh series. The panels were taken off in an earlier vid 😀 glad it helped!

  • @1978behemoth
    @1978behemoth Před rokem

    Hi! Good tutorial, man ;-)Please tell me: how much coolant fluid You used? I bought 3 litres (manual said: 2.8 L to full) and left around 0,8 L. Very strange for me..

  • @anxiousappliance
    @anxiousappliance Před 11 měsíci

    I went to the non toxic antifreeze - the popular brand is engine ice. Just seemed right. No problems. The regular stuff is nasty, and can also kill pets - so yes, be careful with spills and open containers - dogs love the sweet taste.

    • @sstressfl
      @sstressfl  Před 11 měsíci

      Definitely have to be careful with coolant. No dogs near us out in the woods. And I simply followed the manufacturers spec. I’ve always wondered why most manufacturers don’t spec engine ice as an alternative. I’ve worried it had to do with how it protects engine parts. Also seems odd that engine ice is made from the same stuff used to winterize my campers plumbing. Anyway I know people use engine ice and it works for them but it’s more expensive so that is also a factor for some. Whatever you use, they are all toxic, even engine ice albeit far less, and need to be handled with care. Ride safe my friend! Thank you for sharing!

  • @robertoernesti5882
    @robertoernesti5882 Před 3 lety +1

    ok ,perfect

  • @famresmoto9980
    @famresmoto9980 Před měsícem

    Do you wait to cool in between rocking the bike? O and thank you for the videos you're great!

    • @sstressfl
      @sstressfl  Před měsícem

      Yes! Check out the video from here: czcams.com/video/DS_h6tnYkfo/video.htmlsi=04PzDo3c8gtpqi7m&t=750 And thank you my friend 🙏

  • @Transilvanian
    @Transilvanian Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you for the video
    Funny you mentioned the kickstand i dropped my honda rebel500 that way 🤣 at least it fell in the grass, i removed the swing arm stand after cleaning the chain and i leaned the bike to the left and it kept going and going to the ground man i felt stupid

    • @sstressfl
      @sstressfl  Před 3 lety +1

      Uhhg!! I haven't done it yet but I just know it would be SO easy to do. Better on the grass for sure! :)

  • @giovannipalanbrondo6484
    @giovannipalanbrondo6484 Před 3 měsíci

    Michael, I've almost reached the end of the process, where I close the cap and set the temperature to maximum, but up until now I've only put 2 liters of coolant in the radiator, none of it fits anymore. The manual says that there is room for 2,580 liters in the radiator and 230 ml in the small tank.
    thanks to the availability

    • @sstressfl
      @sstressfl  Před 3 měsíci

      Hmmmm you must have a big old bubble in the system still! At least thats my guess. More cycles and swaying back and forth needed?

    • @giovannipalanbrondo6484
      @giovannipalanbrondo6484 Před 3 měsíci

      If you're talking about the old bubble I think you're right.
      Before I decided to change the coolant, I noticed a problem with the bike. In practice, every time I went out on my motorbike and then came back in, I noticed that from the small tank under the motorbike the level always dropped when the motorbike was cold and it was like this. It wasn't normal so I decided to change the fluid and do the procedure.

    • @sstressfl
      @sstressfl  Před 3 měsíci

      @@giovannipalanbrondo6484 is your thermostat working as it should?

    • @giovannipalanbrondo6484
      @giovannipalanbrondo6484 Před 3 měsíci +1

      I think so, the temperature has never risen higher than the levels allowed by the parent company

    • @sstressfl
      @sstressfl  Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@giovannipalanbrondo6484 thats a good sign! :) Hope you get a satisfying "burp" out of it and you can fill it the rest of the way 🙏

  • @antony2397
    @antony2397 Před 3 lety +1

    Hey Michael, do you have an oil change video on the ATS

    • @sstressfl
      @sstressfl  Před 3 lety

      This is it... hope it helps :) czcams.com/video/IJJ_Qax-d8Q/video.html

  • @englishsteel-nz6im
    @englishsteel-nz6im Před rokem +1

    Hey man question for you--- got about 3k miles on GSX-S and when cold the coolant level in reservoir is just above the low line-- wondering if I need to top it off or if it's normal have gotten conflicting info from several sources.

    • @sstressfl
      @sstressfl  Před rokem

      The suzuki manual says "Check the engine coolant level by observing the "F" and "L" lines on the engine coolant resevoir tank. If the level is below the "L" line, add engine coolant to the "F" line from the engine coolant resevoir tank filler behind the oil pan." What that means is F is full. And anywhere between L and F is safe. Below L means it's too low and needs to be topped off. I hope that helps!

  • @TitoTwenFou
    @TitoTwenFou Před měsícem +1

    I was looking for instructions for changing coolant before I came across this instructional video, and what I saw is that it is necessary to fill 2.8 liters of a mixture of coolant mixed with about 50 percent distilled water
    Here in the video I saw that you only filled coolant without mixing in distilled water.
    Is it okay to fill the entire 2.8 liters with coolant only or do I really have to dilute it with distilled water?

    • @sstressfl
      @sstressfl  Před měsícem +1

      Underneath the video in the description you will see a link to the coolant I purchased. It’s premixed 👍

  • @DannyBoy9514
    @DannyBoy9514 Před 3 lety

    When running upto temp did you get a overflow of bubbles that spat out the radiator ? I did I assumed that be the thermo opening and letting all the air out hah mess mess also running up to temp once it stopped bubbling I noticed it would just start to push the fluid out the radiator when it was running is this normal no bubbles just a over flow of coolant when letting it warm up?

    • @sstressfl
      @sstressfl  Před 3 lety

      I did! Some pushed out and I had to wipe it up. I shut it off, it bubbled, then started again. Normal mess lol :)

  • @TitoTwenFou
    @TitoTwenFou Před měsícem

    Hi Michael. First of all Thank you for this excellent tutorial. I plan on to do this service by my own on my 2016 gsr 750, just wanted to make sure, what is the purpose of that red stand that held your gsr in its middle? is it a must for this kind of service or rear and front stands would be enough? another question is in minute 14:00, when you opened up that air bleeder under the gas tank, i couldnt notice the amount of coolant that ran out from there. what should i do when opening it? let whats coming out from there going out till nothing goes anymore or actually in the second the coolant starts coming out i need to put the bolt back on quickly and close it as just to make sure there is liquid coming out and no need to let it all spill?
    Thank You!

    • @sstressfl
      @sstressfl  Před měsícem +1

      I had just finished rebuilding my front forks. The red stand was holding the bike up in the air when the forks were removed. Not necessary for the coolant swap! :) Opening the air bleeder is to make sure there is fluid. If you open it and no fluid, then their is an air pocket. Not good. It means you would have to keep bleeding the system. So once you open it and see fluid come out, you're good! Close it up.

    • @TitoTwenFou
      @TitoTwenFou Před měsícem

      @@sstressfl I appreciate it. Thank you

  • @giovannipalanbrondo6484
    @giovannipalanbrondo6484 Před 3 měsíci

    HI.
    Should I open the bleeder valve when the engine is hot or cold?

    • @sstressfl
      @sstressfl  Před 3 měsíci +1

      It doesn’t have to be cold cold. Just not hot enough to burn your hand :) it’s not under pressure at this point because the cap is still off. And at this point in the cycle you let it run and let it sit for a little while to let any remaining bubbles come out. So it should be safe and luke warm. 👍

  • @MegaBlindy
    @MegaBlindy Před 2 lety

    Does anyone know what the small hose at 18:37 is meant to be for?

    • @sstressfl
      @sstressfl  Před 2 lety

      Its a purge hose... in case the radiator fluid level gets too high or under too much pressure. If fluid comes out of that it usually means you got a problem with your cooling system being overwhelmed.

    • @MegaBlindy
      @MegaBlindy Před 2 lety +1

      @@sstressfl Ahhh okey makes sense... I was idling my bike for 20-30min to recharge the battery a bit and it started leaking the coolant from it...
      Gave me a scare haha, but my reservoir is a bit over the line anyway...

  • @giovannipalanbrondo6484
    @giovannipalanbrondo6484 Před 3 měsíci

    hi, do you remember how many liters you poured into the radiator?

    • @sstressfl
      @sstressfl  Před 3 měsíci +1

      I remember being thankful I bought 2! :) This is the coolant I purchased: Qty 2 - Maxima Motorcycle Coolant: amzn.to/2PxBb1X

  • @M1sterFancyPants
    @M1sterFancyPants Před rokem

    Awesome, comprehensive video. Just bought a 2018 gixxis 750. Coolant level is a bit low so I want to top it up, but I didn't know what do with that hose holder. Oddly enough, the top surface of it was covered in a thick, sticky black grease. Any idea where that might have come from? Maybe it's like that from the factory? I don't see anything leaking above it.
    Thanks, God bless.

    • @sstressfl
      @sstressfl  Před rokem +1

      Thank you brother! The grease is from your chain. It spins so quickly on the front gear that it splashes grease in that area 👍

    • @M1sterFancyPants
      @M1sterFancyPants Před rokem

      @@sstressflmakes sense! It had me a bit worried haha. Thanks for the quick response!!
      When I get the chance I'll have to do the full coolant change. Looks pretty time consuming lol.

    • @sstressfl
      @sstressfl  Před rokem +1

      @@M1sterFancyPants no problem 👍 it’s a great winter project…. Well, assuming you have a winter ❄️☃️🌨

    • @M1sterFancyPants
      @M1sterFancyPants Před rokem

      @@sstressfl We definitely have winters here in Canada!

  • @shinimohanty8191
    @shinimohanty8191 Před rokem

    Can I get used fork for gsxs750 2018?

    • @sstressfl
      @sstressfl  Před rokem

      I think so... maybe search ebay or ask if someone has one for sale on one of the many gsxs750 facebook groups? Happy hunting!

  • @krikkeonesevenone6182
    @krikkeonesevenone6182 Před 2 lety

    Just bought me a second hand suzuki gsr 750 from 2012 . Verry nice bike i love it , coincidence wants that this is one of the maintenance jobs im looking to do on my bike . Few things are alredy done except oil , cooling liquid and spark plugs change . Any vids on that ?
    Thnx for sharing , greetings from belgium . God bless

    • @sstressfl
      @sstressfl  Před 2 lety

      I got ya covered! The only change is on the oil... I started using Suzuki Ecstar R9000 and it's amazing!! Better than Amsoil IMO. Here's the entire playlist of vids for this bike czcams.com/video/g21pnWYGrpc/video.html God bless you too brother!

    • @krikkeironhorse4335
      @krikkeironhorse4335 Před 2 lety

      @@sstressfl allright , just got a look at them and its realy gonna help me a lot since I just cant find a workshop book anywhere even Google lets me down . Where did you find yours ?
      thanks in advance

    • @sstressfl
      @sstressfl  Před 2 lety +1

      @@krikkeironhorse4335 I got mine here www.service-shop-repair-manual.com/2015-2017-suzuki-gsx-s750-part-99500-37163-03e-service-shop-repair-manual/ Definitely a must for diy work on your awesome bike 😎👍

    • @krikkeonesevenone6182
      @krikkeonesevenone6182 Před 2 lety +1

      Thank you verry mutch , i’m gonna take a look to youre link immidiatly and order as quick as i can . Nice to know bikers help eachother worldwide ✊ .again thanks for youre posts who help us a lot . And if you want i send you a pic of my suzuki . Let me know , godd bless ya

    • @sstressfl
      @sstressfl  Před 2 lety

      @@krikkeonesevenone6182 God bless you too my friend :) And yes, send me a pic at michael@clickthruvt.com Glad to help!

  • @smerd1
    @smerd1 Před 3 lety

    Good job👍🏼 my 2016 model has started burping coolant from the overflow pipe after every ride, I think it's time for a change 🤔

    • @sstressfl
      @sstressfl  Před 3 lety +1

      Change it for sure 👍 but you might have a bad radiator cap that isn’t allowing pressure to release .... or a cracked head gasket. Are you overheating? If so it could be thermostat. Is your fan coming on when it gets hot? I’d be surprised if you had a bubble in the system. And I think a bad water pump would be rare. Make sure all of your coolant lines are solid, not cracked or leaking. 👍 Hope you fix it 🙏😎

    • @smerd1
      @smerd1 Před 3 lety +1

      @@sstressfl I am thinking rad cap, it's not overheating and the fan is working fine :-)

    • @sstressfl
      @sstressfl  Před 3 lety

      @@smerd1 That sounds like low hanging fruit to me :) Hope that does the trick!

    • @rothmenmoto7962
      @rothmenmoto7962 Před 2 lety

      its your radiator cap...its coolant start come out when you stop at traffic light or stop at any junction but when you riding your motorcycle its looks normal but when stop and your engine is hot coolant start come out from overflow pipe

  • @blakeroberts3770
    @blakeroberts3770 Před 2 lety

    Do you know what torque spec is on the bracket bolt?

    • @sstressfl
      @sstressfl  Před 2 lety

      Can you be more specific? I have the manual I can look it up, I'm just not sure which bolt you mean.

    • @blakeroberts3770
      @blakeroberts3770 Před 2 lety

      The hose bracket that is over the resivoir cap

    • @blakeroberts3770
      @blakeroberts3770 Před 2 lety

      Also where can I find shop manual and what do they normally cost ??

  • @Ravand1
    @Ravand1 Před 3 lety

    Hi Michael
    I have the exact same bike as you and I was wondering, do you know if the front mudguard from a GSX-S fits the GSR?
    I cant stand the orginal front mudguard I have to change it please help!!!!

    • @sstressfl
      @sstressfl  Před 3 lety

      From the pics they look like the same part! If you're going to buy one of those nice carbon mudguards, make sure you buy it from someone who will refund it if it doesn't fit :)

    • @Ravand1
      @Ravand1 Před 3 lety

      @@sstressfl I'll buy one and see if it fits, if it does I will let you know. Thanks for the quick answear
      Greetings from Sweden 🤘

    • @sstressfl
      @sstressfl  Před 3 lety

      @@Ravand1 Sweden 🙌 How beautiful. I imagine your rides are pretty exciting 🤩 I look fwd to your feedback on the fit!! And also would be very interested in what you bought. Thank you for sharing my friend 🙏🤗

    • @Ravand1
      @Ravand1 Před 3 lety +1

      @@sstressfl I wish but the weather is not that great it rains alot 😂
      To be honest I think I will just buy a used one and not the carbon, I really hope that it does fit. I can send you pictures of the result if it all works out 🙂🤘

    • @sstressfl
      @sstressfl  Před 3 lety

      @@Ravand1 sweet!! Hope it works!! 💪😎

  • @chuka10
    @chuka10 Před 7 měsíci

    How much total fluid u pour?

    • @sstressfl
      @sstressfl  Před 7 měsíci +1

      The manual says 2.7 US qts (84 oz) not including the reservoir so I bought two 64oz bottles and had some left over.

    • @chuka10
      @chuka10 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Thanks budd

  • @davidkillington-hayward6130

    How's your screen coming along

    • @sstressfl
      @sstressfl  Před 3 lety +1

      It whispers the same thing to me every time I walk by it....

    • @davidkillington-hayward6130
      @davidkillington-hayward6130 Před 3 lety

      @@sstressfl come on dude stop and answer the call.. 😂

    • @sstressfl
      @sstressfl  Před 3 lety +1

      @@davidkillington-hayward6130 lol 😂 oh man it’s a tough one to find time to work on given all of my other priorities.

    • @davidkillington-hayward6130
      @davidkillington-hayward6130 Před 3 lety

      @@sstressfl I get that mate... Keep up the good work 👍

    • @sstressfl
      @sstressfl  Před 3 lety

      @@davidkillington-hayward6130 Thank you :)

  • @nymetsfan912
    @nymetsfan912 Před rokem

    I think 20k miles is way too soon to change the fluid. Especially the blue coolant.

    • @sstressfl
      @sstressfl  Před rokem

      The suzuki service manual for this specific bike shows replace Blue coolant (super long life coolant) at 14,500 miles or 48 months whichever comes first.

  • @janborowski9211
    @janborowski9211 Před 2 lety

    Couldn't You just squeeze hoses?

    • @sstressfl
      @sstressfl  Před 2 lety

      Sure. But then do the other stuff too :)

    • @janborowski9211
      @janborowski9211 Před 2 lety

      @@sstressfl couldn't edit, but I meant removing air bubbles ;)

    • @sstressfl
      @sstressfl  Před 2 lety

      @@janborowski9211 I understood what you meant! It might help but not mentioned in the manual. The air bubbles are mostly in the engine case/radiator. Perhaps squeezing would push fluid out? I followed the recommended procedure and it worked great :)

    • @janborowski9211
      @janborowski9211 Před 2 lety

      @@sstressfl Nice to know that this is recommended :) I need to do that in my GSR 750

  • @retromojo1
    @retromojo1 Před rokem

    I have never done a coolant change on a car or any of my bikes.... never a problem with a water pump. several bikes had over 50k miles on them before I sold. SO I will continue to never change my coolant. just isn't needed

    • @sstressfl
      @sstressfl  Před rokem +1

      I do understand your perspective. Mine is a little different however when it comes to motorcycles. Radiator fluid, which acts as a lubricant and slowly looses its viscosity, can suddenly come leaking out of a failed water pump which can get under your tire which can definitely be a problem. In a car, you roll to a stop when there's a failure so we tend to ignore some maintenance items. And so on motorcycles maintenance intervals seem too extreme but its because a failure can kill you or land you in a hospital for an extended stay. With that perspective, radiator fluid seems like a cheap and simple maintenance item and worth the effort. At least that's how I look at it.