Southgate's record with England is very flattering, and the criticism he's received is fair. He's had extremely favourable draws in tournaments. The only real win they have had when they weren't the favourites was Germany ro16 in at Euro 2020. Most of the English players play attacking/possession based football for their clubs but have to sit back when they play for England.
Favourable draws for topping the group 💀 something England teams and their golden generation couldn't do the critsicm is unnecessary you act like we won everything before him
Some people just can't take criticism, and not even take it constructively, instead of whining about it and declaring it unfair. Pointing fingers and blaming them for 'pressure'? Grow up. If you can't see the genuine applicable nature of the criticism then it you as a fan that are more of an inherent problem here.
What a fair and balanced approach here. I hope enough people appreciate Gareth Southgate. Always so much negativity and criticism these days. He’s had so many people having a go at him. Let’s see how the next person gets on. Yes the players had a hand in this. I hope they take it onboard. They were on the pitch. They were the ones who had control, or not, of that ball. Some really did not look like they do at club level. They couldn’t keep the ball. Another manager can only succeed if they do their part in the pitch. Let’s hope Gareth Southgate gets respect and is acknowledged for his service.
Yes, some criticism is justified, but we reached the final and lost by a single goal to the best team. Too many England fans are toxic and rather than support their team, damage it. Time for a good long look in the mirror.. ‘supporters’ included.
Millis is Wrong! You can play the way England played but you have to win at the end of the day. You can’t play awful football and still end up losing when it matters most time after time. If England pressed on and came up short because they got an unlucky break or came up against a team that was genuinely better than them people would understand. People are upset because they feel like England left a lot on the table and didn’t play to their strengths.
Yeah he made no sense with that, he was saying how Mourinho didn’t play great football and won things but Southgate didn’t win anything so 🤣🤣🤣he’s just defending his mate
Im glad there are some voices like Danny speaking up and representing how the other half of fans feel on this. We didn't appreciate the good in what we had and drove him out. We just lost a top class international manager who gave us a golden period of credibility amd results that are an outlier in our history. Now watch what happens...instability... and back to the days of crashing out at the group stage.... its depressing...
"It is going to be a difficult role to fill" - is it? Surely all we need to do is hire someone that has proven track record of managing a team of exceptional players? So that rules out all English born managers pretty much. Their already erasing Southgate's history, which has a lot of nuisances, yes he's made it to finals & Semi's but let's talk about how easy all of his tournament routes have been.
Nonsense, the criticism was totally justified, its not like it's a one off. EVERY time we play a half decent side we lose. His record against top ten sides is abysmal!
Unfair ?? Why because u r mates? England was playing terribly all tournament. It was not unfair. He destroyed attacking english football and made it boring and u never win anything because u r arogant
I am sick of all the negative comments. When he took over England were no where. Our Golden Generation - failed! England were rock bottom. You might not like his tactics and decisions - but he has elevated English football. He gave us back hope again and a belief in England once again. You all need to sit back and take a clear, hard look at what he has achieved. The next England manager will find it hard to even emulate his record. I wish Gareth all the very best for the future and thank him for giving us hope again.
Southgate shouldn’t be getting grief I remember not qualifying for euros getting knocked out in group stages with cappelo erikson Southgate made us 2nd best in Europe top 5 in world That was never fact before 🦁🦁🦁
I backed Southgate but I think it's a crock how the media are putting it all on the supporters. Skysports, Talksport, BBC, etc. they all bashed this guy constantly through the tournament.
If you play a guy who's not fit in a big tournament not once but 6 times I think you might get some flak get real.was he a good man manager very much so the camp looked happy with him that's 70% of the battle to win a trophy, did he make subs at the right time I would say no they needed to be made earlier when we were flagging before we conceded it was pretty plain to see.would someone else do better maybe not.i don't see English players as a tournament nation ,we have great players that never seem to make a great team so maybe this has been a success but it's not great to watch
The major thing with this whole England situation can be explained by The Dunning-Kruger effect, it is a cognitive bias in which people with limited competence in a particular domain overestimate their abilities. In laymans terms you may watch an England game and think you know better but actually you are just a partial observer thinking you know more than actual trained individuals.
Danny Mills always talks nonsense. Players underperform for many reasons. First, England had no identifiable playing system/style. Their pressing was poor, they did not play as a counter-attacking team neither did they play on the front foot, players playing out of position Another key reason for that is because the quality of coaching the team had. What people like Danny Mills miss is this, these players play in different systems, so when they get together, the manager has to identify what way the team is going to play. Take Spain for example, Luis Enrique, the previous manager played in a totally different way from Luis De La Fuentes. Good players are able to adapt to multiple playing styles provided they are well coached in that system. I often hear the nonsense, 'The coaches have little time to implement a playing style' .That is like I said, absolute Rubbish. Ralf Ragnick took over the Austrian team and see how much they improved. The Ivorian national team fired their manager mid tournament because of how poor they were, appointed a new coach and they went on the win the competition. These players are not newbies and can easily adapt if the ideas are properly communicated and worked on. Danny Mills has said so much nonsense to the degree I do not expect any reasonable explanation to come out of his mouth. This is the same guy who said that if Pep Guardiola was given the opportunity to work with Jude Bellingham, he would promptly turn it down.
Clearly he didn't watch the group stage. It's not about where he got us it was the performances. Formations. Tactics and not having the guts to drop players despite knowing some of them were running on empty. That's where the criticism lies. I didn't agree with fans throwing things at him but I'm afraid the criticism is justified. Apart from the first half in the semi-finals, we shouldn't have been as that never mind the final.
We need someone with a proven record of winning major trophies - regardless of nationality. Tuchel is the man, surely? Ten major trophy wins under his belt. No current ties to any club (therefore no compensation to pay out) and can start immediately. He commands his technical area and gets the best out of his players. Southgate was just sat there praying for miracles.
Looking at the World Cup and European Cup records for England before Southgate the data speaks for itself. EC 2000, Last 16 WC 2002, Quarter-Finals EC 2004, Quarter-Finals WC 2006, Quarter-Finals EC 2008, Failed to Qualify WC 2010, Last 16 EC 2012 Quarter-Finals WC 2014, knocked out in group stages EC 2016, Last 16 And with Southgate.... WC 2018, Semi-Finals EC 2021, Finals WC 2022, Quarter Finals EC 2024, Finals Certainly, Southgate made mistakes... Croatia in 2018 - Italy in 2021. Southgate just fired us.....To us Southgate was the joke. To fans of every other country, England fans are the joke.
He has some points but say that it's all the player's performance fault is unfair. The players are told to play in a certain way. If Englands sits back and don't pressure high, they don't take risks with the ball and they only ever attack when they are loosing, that has to be the manager's fault
Haven't watched this video yet but it's not unfair at all. Palmer, Gordon and Trent on the bench while Kane is our striker? Shocking. I could've got us to the final with the talent on England's side.
@@theoneandonlygus1 Mate honestly post match commentary had to be turned off on the final, couldn't bare to listen to them up Southgate's rear end. Relying on individual quality whilst we spend 90% of our possession passing back to defenders and then Pickford walloping it up the other end is not exciting nor proactive use of our talent. So glad he's gone
@@dalziiosrs , Couldn't agree with your more, lets hope the FA give their collective heads a wobble and actually pick a pro active manager next although I don't really hold out much hope. 🙂
I think a lot of England fans want to take a hard "Win silverware or nothing" stance, believing it'll act as the motivation required. Problem is that when Germans or Argentinians are rough on a national team that's already won plenty, they tend to respond by winning more trophies not too long afterwards. In our situation it just looks like toxic desperation crossingbover into delusion, winning us nothing and in fact leading to us massively regressing. In our lifetime, half an hour from the big one at Wembley could well be as good as it gets. Fans scoffed at it. Now we'll be lucky if the dark days don't return. By the way, good on Danny Mills for finally being the one to point out that no, managers do not give players intricate moment by moment guides on how to play, they've got to use their own talents and common sense to MAKE things happen.
I’m really surprised by these so called professionals looking at those games and saying that Pickford played well. Yes he did make the saves but that is what he was there for . Pickford was a major problem by constantly booting the ball upfield. In the modern football with midfielders like Rodri and Laporte, Ruiz and Le Normand all over 6 foot. They were just lapping it up. In fact that was the biggest problem with England retaining possession. None of our players are used to playing that way anymore. Only Rice had the physical presence to contend for those balls( Bellingham was on the wing and Kane didn’t fancy it) Any manager worth his worth would have either given Pickford special instructions or changed him. For me he is also very panicky and shouts a lot .It seems to be an English goalie thing Hart , Ramsdale even Mary Earls a very emotional in goal and sometimes make irrational decisions. A good example is have a looks at Pickford during crosses. I bet you will notice that he would always come out and then change his mind and go back. He would always be caught in no man’s land. It’s sheer luck that we didn’t concede with him doing that. And what is the deal with all the shouting . Creates tension for me. I can see why both Pep and Arteta changed these keepers for ones who are more settled and try to keep possession. Trafford is the future for me. So Danny you have so much more experience than me but in your eagerness to defend Southgate( We understand he is your mate and you guys probably played together or apart of the exEngland union.) I can’t understand how you could have missed so much. The most productive player for England was Saka and you didn’t even mention him. Next was Cole Palmer who barely had a look in Guehi , Konsa and Watkins. Southgate failed to utilise his Squad . Why leave Rushford (tournament proven) and Grealish even Sancho at home carry Gordon and barely use him. Why did he not carry a spare left full back the carried Dunk Why play trippier again and again while Gomez had played that positional all season for Liverpool ( Most of it while they were top of the league. Trippier had such a bad season and there were rumours he was almost sold by his club. He was trying out his system within the tournament whereas every other coach chose their squads according to how they wanted to play . He kept talking about missing Phillips carried Wharton and then never played him.(Not even in the third group game even though we were pretty much through. N He is good guy so good that he is incapable of making those ruthless decisions necessary to win a tournament For example Argentina went into the World Cup with Martinez as their top striker. He didn’t perform and was benched with Alvarez taking his place . They ended up winning the tournament based on his goals. In the Cora America the roles were switched with Martinez scoring most of their goals. In tournament football the coach has to be ruthless to get the best for the team. It’s from these decisions we had heroes like scillachi, Rossi who emerged out of nowhere and set tournaments alight. Or not if Southgate was their coaches. I dare not go into Kane, or Bellingham or Rice’s issues. But please mr Mills Pickford was probably as much a culpable as was Southgate with all the mistakes highlighted the fact you can’t see it worries me a lot about the state of professionals turning into coaching in England.
Gareth doesn’t know when to change players and played them out of position. Don’t blame the players. Play them in their positions and make changes when needed. Danny can’t talk at all!!!!
Bit weird how at club level they all play well but they all underperform for England, it’s clearly the managers fault, stop defending your mate, the criticism is completely justified
Mills is right to a certaon extent. Some people are celebrating, yet they should hold their horses and be careful what they wish for. Southgate has raised standards and expectations. Under Southgate England has gone deep into tournaments. There is now an expectation to win and het to finals. If the next man doesn't qualify or get out of the group-stage, people will be crying out for Southgate in a few years time! There will have to be pragmatism at times, not all teams can merely be turned over. In terms of the new manager: If English, has to be: Eddie Howe or Carsley. If non-English: Klopp (though doubtful he would ever take, as he wants to relax, so no idea why his name is being constantly thrown into the mix). No way Lampard, Rooney or Gerrard. They have poor man-management and inter-personal skills. No way: the Argentian Pochettino.
Love Jordan P and he has been one of our best players throughout the tournament but his long ball distribution was woeful against Spain and was the wrong choice, we should've built up through mid-field, rather than try and launch long to an out of form Kane
Saying it doesn't matter how attactive you play and it's all about winning. You could have given other examples than Guardiola and Mourinho because Guardiola has been much more succesfull than Mourinho in his career playing attractive football, whilst Mourinho was succesfull on his first teams but since many years ago has had a very moderate success. You say it's all about winning and you can play the worst football in the world that as long as you win that will be fine. But what happens when you play crap football and you don't win? If you are not winning anyway, at least you could play decent football.
Jurgen or Peps or Anceloti or R.Mancini or A.Conti or M.Lippi will end 62 yrs of hurt at the UK based Euro28, (if not at the USA World Cup 2026, but Messi & Argentina will probably defeat 3 🦁 in that final) Gareth laid the foundation of future success & is appreciated by the majority of 3 🦁 fans. (ESPN poll of 20000+ fans shows 3 in 5 fans think he did a good job). A nice guy who did his best, thats all u can ask for. I think he will win a cup with a nice club like Cyrille Regis's WBA. Prof A.G.Haq
Here's my take, I agree that most of the blame is on the players since most of them didn't play well at all. However, to say coach didn't have enough time is utter nonsense. He had years with the main core group of guys to build chem and they never showed it. Look at scaloni he had build a team from nothing in short amount of time. Whenever you have a group of world class guys you will be expected to win with class. Why did it take 4 games to realize saka was weak on the RW. Foden and Palmer both better this tourney on that side
Why is it going to be a difficult role to fulfill? Which manager wouldn't want to coach arguably the best crop of players since 1996, where some of them are bordering on world class. Southgate did well but it could've been so tactically better.
Because what manager wants to put up with the English media, deluded media and fans like you with absolute nonsense like "best crop since 96", and anything but winning a trophy is failure even though ye have never been a big hitter at tournaments. Every England team from about 96-2006 would absolutely smash this team
1. The English soccer community (fans and journalists) pull down their own too often. The reason they have many wonderkids that did not live to the hype and no manager in the last 5 decades that is really successful. 2. There is a disturbing obsession with attacking football and so called “entertaining” football among most fans these days. Fans are increasingly becoming unrealistic in their expectations of how they believe football should be played all the time. 3. One of the reason is too many biased and subjective journalists these days. Absolutely nothing to learn from them. They always have an agenda against manager, team or player.
Danny Mills doesn’t tip - FACT. How hard is it for a multi-millionaire to leave a few quid for their waiter? One of the on,y people to leave zero ….. no respect for him
Pep and kloop will definitely do a better job than southgate even if they get a short period of time. Just look at spain and germany how their play style changed in a matter of months . So, stop giving us excuses relating to time. Southgate is an england manager since 2016 and his playing didn't changed a bit.
The argument that club managers get day after day to implement a style is ridiculous BTW. If you don't have that time, take your best players, build the system around them and how they play and go from there. The Foden issue the whole tournament was ridiculous
Absolutely correct from Danny. How you win isn't important so long as you win. England lack identity. Do you want a possession based football or is a counter attacking system your prefferd system. Perhaps, a blend of both? Now, playing the 'best' football don't always win you major tournaments. The team who know their identity do well. Greece 2004 is a very good example.
To my mind it’s been opportunities missed, to win you’ve got to have the ability and mindset…, we had the ability which was clear but unfortunately his mindset denied us the chance to be champions several times! He can be proud of his achievements but shamed for not fulfilling the promise of the players he managed as Englands Manager!
oh right Mills its the taking part that counts then, I actually agree with most of it. I doubt England will have the success they have had with Southgate but we needed the change we need an tough manager who will stick to a plan and drop players who are not up to it. Id go with an older man like Redknapp with Lampard as assistant if we go with a younger Id get Howe forget Potter.
Thank GOD someone has said " its about winning" in whatever way you do it !! Sor clive woodward knew that and his rugby team won the world cup! And some of those games weren't about entertaining. They were about players adapting , fighting, and playing for each other.. not for the manager or the fans.. for each other.
I thank Southgate and he has done great job but some of his decision was questionable because some players are not in their regular positions, no natural left footed left back apart from Luke Shaw, substitute was coming on too late. He could have been out at round of 16 by Slovakia. He was also lucky with draws. He took as to 2 finals but we didn't get the trophy and that's really disappointing and play ugly football. He was too loyal to players like Kane, Foden and Saka when they weren't performing.
Difficult to replace lol, you might get a winning manager now, don't be silly, his teams have beat nobody special understand that, England should have been out long ago, pundits are blowing things out of proportion guys.
If the result is exceptional, let's see if someone will hire him, friend. Are you blaming players for the game plan, strategy, and squad management? Hire Klopp, then see a real manager.
It is just talk, talk, blah, blah, blah Danny Mills....!!!! Ok Gareth Pal. Another one who wants english mate. If the remit is to win a trophy, you get Klopp, or Mourinho. These guys will be contact regularly when allowed, for England get-together's, and i am sure they don't mind a 2 or 4 year sabaticle from club managing. What did Eddie Howe do with Newcastle in Champions League, group stages...this last season? he was found out, against Dortmund, AC Milan. Southgate hasn't even won is the Nations League Cup...!!! Why this anti-foreign manager for England, the women's manager Sarah Wiegman is dutch. She has won England the Euros in 2022. Eddie Howe, is not there. It will be another Gareth. We need to win trophies now, the next 1 or 2 coming.
Mills along with Micah Richards... both fullbacks... both worst pundits... Talking utter nonesense.... Note... we lost to Iceland with the players he used just before the euros started he is talking b-llox
cannot agree....hes got the best players in the world....in a squad.......playing so negative with attacking players is ...totally foolish........this bunch of players are world cup winners....with the right manager ....the FA.....NEED THE BEST MANAGER IN THE WORLD ....TOO MANAGE THE BEST SQUAD OF PLAYERS IN THE WORLD.......THE LIKES OF PEP GUARDIOLA WOULD HAVE WON ..WITH THIS SQUAD...
@ 0:28 "Criticism growing after the last 2 or 3 years" If only he'd listened 2 or 3 years ago. His job was to win something NOT just be the FA and every players favourite uncle .
Danny was spot on here. Most English football fans only are interested in football related to their club, they aren't interested in any other football if it doesn't involve their team. Look at the Euro teams, all those "lesser" teams have players in Serie A, La Liga, Bundesliga and the Premier League, but we have this attitude of, never heard of em therefore we'll easily beat them. Ignorance
Breaking: man’s friend defends him from justified criticism
Took the words right out of my mouth
Another one of his pals not accepting any objective criticism
I replied to you but youtube didn't like it. Decent people are gutted that he has gone
youtube don't like me telling the truth
@@angelabrooke5059saying he’s not good enough doesn’t make you a bad person ffs 😂
@@Do27gg Just makes you an idiot. You'll all see soon enough.
@@angelabrooke5059 define decent people. You're the one in a comment section insulting people's character, because they disagree with you
The more I hear the English talk about their football, the more I understand why they haven't won a trophy in decades.
@@thatswhatshesaid3126 you’re quite right, old pals act. The English FA like a yes man and have a defeatist attitude
💯 Danny Mills is just dumb
SPAIN DIDNT PLAY NEGATIVE IN ONE GAME.....WIN WIN WIN.....
Danny mils was 1 of the worst players ever . Dnt think he qualifies as a pundit
Southgate had to go, should have been gone after the World Cup.
Southgate's record with England is very flattering, and the criticism he's received is fair. He's had extremely favourable draws in tournaments. The only real win they have had when they weren't the favourites was Germany ro16 in at Euro 2020. Most of the English players play attacking/possession based football for their clubs but have to sit back when they play for England.
Favourable draws for topping the group 💀 something England teams and their golden generation couldn't do the critsicm is unnecessary you act like we won everything before him
Some people just can't take criticism, and not even take it constructively, instead of whining about it and declaring it unfair. Pointing fingers and blaming them for 'pressure'? Grow up. If you can't see the genuine applicable nature of the criticism then it you as a fan that are more of an inherent problem here.
Facts
@@HarryKaneeYou also don’t realise that the other national teams are not as good now as they were back then
What a fair and balanced approach here. I hope enough people appreciate Gareth Southgate. Always so much negativity and criticism these days. He’s had so many people having a go at him. Let’s see how the next person gets on. Yes the players had a hand in this. I hope they take it onboard. They were on the pitch. They were the ones who had control, or not, of that ball. Some really did not look like they do at club level. They couldn’t keep the ball. Another manager can only succeed if they do their part in the pitch. Let’s hope Gareth Southgate gets respect and is acknowledged for his service.
He got £40m respects a year.
Yes, some criticism is justified, but we reached the final and lost by a single goal to the best team. Too many England fans are toxic and rather than support their team, damage it. Time for a good long look in the mirror.. ‘supporters’ included.
yep
Perfect comment, couldn't have said it better. Think they are about to find out in the years to come how well Southgate actually did.
But Danny, if players like Foden are crap for two games you drop them. Southgate did not, he kept playing them every game. Poor management.
Spot on. Says the core 7/8 players were rubbish, yet he kept playing them every game. The criticism was because he didn't make changes 🤦♂️
This is the same Danny Mills that was saying Jurgen Klopp wasnt that great of a manager for Liverpool because he didn't win enough
Exactly Danny Mills just talks rubbish, constantly on his high horse.
Spoke a lot of sense. Southgate massively improved the England team and should be praised. If he came back in 5 years time I would be very happy.
Millis is Wrong! You can play the way England played but you have to win at the end of the day. You can’t play awful football and still end up losing when it matters most time after time. If England pressed on and came up short because they got an unlucky break or came up against a team that was genuinely better than them people would understand. People are upset because they feel like England left a lot on the table and didn’t play to their strengths.
Yeah he made no sense with that, he was saying how Mourinho didn’t play great football and won things but Southgate didn’t win anything so 🤣🤣🤣he’s just defending his mate
Im glad there are some voices like Danny speaking up and representing how the other half of fans feel on this. We didn't appreciate the good in what we had and drove him out. We just lost a top class international manager who gave us a golden period of credibility amd results that are an outlier in our history. Now watch what happens...instability... and back to the days of crashing out at the group stage.... its depressing...
"It is going to be a difficult role to fill" - is it? Surely all we need to do is hire someone that has proven track record of managing a team of exceptional players? So that rules out all English born managers pretty much.
Their already erasing Southgate's history, which has a lot of nuisances, yes he's made it to finals & Semi's but let's talk about how easy all of his tournament routes have been.
nb 'they're' 'semis'
And if we get klopp and he doesn't win the flipping world cup I guess he'll be labeled as a complete failure as well. It's a very hard job
Well said Danny , totally agree with all you said
Good luck to Gareth
Why don't any of those pundits look Southgate job since they know everything about English football
Nonsense, the criticism was totally justified, its not like it's a one off. EVERY time we play a half decent side we lose. His record against top ten sides is abysmal!
You wait til the next manager comes in and they do even worse. You'll be crying for Southgate to come back😅
Which countries have a better record than southgate against the top 10 teams in those 8 years?
@@hyywe240 probably only Argentina I guess
@chavinho7793 no there was like 3 or 4 to be fair but not as many as this stat makes it sound like
@@hyywe240 it was probably a a small difference in percentage
Unfair ?? Why because u r mates? England was playing terribly all tournament. It was not unfair. He destroyed attacking english football and made it boring and u never win anything because u r arogant
I am sick of all the negative comments. When he took over England were no where. Our Golden Generation - failed! England were rock bottom. You might not like his tactics and decisions - but he has elevated English football. He gave us back hope again and a belief in England once again. You all need to sit back and take a clear, hard look at what he has achieved. The next England manager will find it hard to even emulate his record. I wish Gareth all the very best for the future and thank him for giving us hope again.
Southgate shouldn’t be getting grief
I remember not qualifying for euros getting knocked out in group stages with cappelo erikson
Southgate made us 2nd best in Europe top 5 in world
That was never fact before 🦁🦁🦁
So basically all the players were rubbish according to Danny Mills and still the core 7/8 players played every game... sounds like a management issue.
I backed Southgate but I think it's a crock how the media are putting it all on the supporters. Skysports, Talksport, BBC, etc. they all bashed this guy constantly through the tournament.
I couldn't agree more with Danny. Nailed it.
Typical bs from Mills.
He's right
If you play a guy who's not fit in a big tournament not once but 6 times I think you might get some flak get real.was he a good man manager very much so the camp looked happy with him that's 70% of the battle to win a trophy, did he make subs at the right time I would say no they needed to be made earlier when we were flagging before we conceded it was pretty plain to see.would someone else do better maybe not.i don't see English players as a tournament nation ,we have great players that never seem to make a great team so maybe this has been a success but it's not great to watch
Well said sir … most balanced and most intelligent assessment I’ve heard this week of Gareth
None of the English candidates to replace him have won nothing either, and you wonder way it's 58 years since England actually won something.
The major thing with this whole England situation can be explained by The Dunning-Kruger effect, it is a cognitive bias in which people with limited competence in a particular domain overestimate their abilities. In laymans terms you may watch an England game and think you know better but actually you are just a partial observer thinking you know more than actual trained individuals.
Danny Mills always talks nonsense. Players underperform for many reasons. First, England had no identifiable playing system/style. Their pressing was poor, they did not play as a counter-attacking team neither did they play on the front foot, players playing out of position Another key reason for that is because the quality of coaching the team had. What people like Danny Mills miss is this, these players play in different systems, so when they get together, the manager has to identify what way the team is going to play. Take Spain for example, Luis Enrique, the previous manager played in a totally different way from Luis De La Fuentes. Good players are able to adapt to multiple playing styles provided they are well coached in that system. I often hear the nonsense, 'The coaches have little time to implement a playing style' .That is like I said, absolute Rubbish. Ralf Ragnick took over the Austrian team and see how much they improved. The Ivorian national team fired their manager mid tournament because of how poor they were, appointed a new coach and they went on the win the competition. These players are not newbies and can easily adapt if the ideas are properly communicated and worked on. Danny Mills has said so much nonsense to the degree I do not expect any reasonable explanation to come out of his mouth. This is the same guy who said that if Pep Guardiola was given the opportunity to work with Jude Bellingham, he would promptly turn it down.
The criticism was way out of kilter but what can you do when everyone on social media thinks they are a better manager 😂😂🤡🤡💩💩
Thank you for saying this. It needs to be said.
Clearly he didn't watch the group stage. It's not about where he got us it was the performances. Formations. Tactics and not having the guts to drop players despite knowing some of them were running on empty. That's where the criticism lies. I didn't agree with fans throwing things at him but I'm afraid the criticism is justified. Apart from the first half in the semi-finals, we shouldn't have been as that never mind the final.
We need someone with a proven record of winning major trophies - regardless of nationality. Tuchel is the man, surely? Ten major trophy wins under his belt. No current ties to any club (therefore no compensation to pay out) and can start immediately. He commands his technical area and gets the best out of his players. Southgate was just sat there praying for miracles.
I actually agree with Danny Mills!
Well said Danny lad
Looking at the World Cup and European Cup records for England before Southgate the data speaks for itself.
EC 2000, Last 16
WC 2002, Quarter-Finals
EC 2004, Quarter-Finals
WC 2006, Quarter-Finals
EC 2008, Failed to Qualify
WC 2010, Last 16
EC 2012 Quarter-Finals
WC 2014, knocked out in group stages
EC 2016, Last 16
And with Southgate....
WC 2018, Semi-Finals
EC 2021, Finals
WC 2022, Quarter Finals
EC 2024, Finals
Certainly, Southgate made mistakes... Croatia in 2018 - Italy in 2021.
Southgate just fired us.....To us Southgate was the joke. To fans of every other country, England fans are the joke.
what u r talking about, is unknown.
He has some points but say that it's all the player's performance fault is unfair. The players are told to play in a certain way. If Englands sits back and don't pressure high, they don't take risks with the ball and they only ever attack when they are loosing, that has to be the manager's fault
Sky Sports and ALL their pundits and guests are delusional!
So arteta is a complete failure because he came 2nd in the league to a better team. England fan logic
Haven't watched this video yet but it's not unfair at all. Palmer, Gordon and Trent on the bench while Kane is our striker? Shocking. I could've got us to the final with the talent on England's side.
There's really no need to, everybody since Southgate has walked away now is praising him beyond belief, its kinds funny.
@@theoneandonlygus1 Mate honestly post match commentary had to be turned off on the final, couldn't bare to listen to them up Southgate's rear end. Relying on individual quality whilst we spend 90% of our possession passing back to defenders and then Pickford walloping it up the other end is not exciting nor proactive use of our talent. So glad he's gone
@@dalziiosrs , Couldn't agree with your more, lets hope the FA give their collective heads a wobble and actually pick a pro active manager next although I don't really hold out much hope. 🙂
This is most hilariously delusional comment that I've ever seen!! Fantastic, we've just found our next England manager!😂
@@admaga Whoever the comment is aimed at I'm sure they are pleased you agree. 🙂
I think a lot of England fans want to take a hard "Win silverware or nothing" stance, believing it'll act as the motivation required. Problem is that when Germans or Argentinians are rough on a national team that's already won plenty, they tend to respond by winning more trophies not too long afterwards. In our situation it just looks like toxic desperation crossingbover into delusion, winning us nothing and in fact leading to us massively regressing. In our lifetime, half an hour from the big one at Wembley could well be as good as it gets. Fans scoffed at it. Now we'll be lucky if the dark days don't return.
By the way, good on Danny Mills for finally being the one to point out that no, managers do not give players intricate moment by moment guides on how to play, they've got to use their own talents and common sense to MAKE things happen.
I’m really surprised by these so called professionals looking at those games and saying that Pickford played well. Yes he did make the saves but that is what he was there for . Pickford was a major problem by constantly booting the ball upfield. In the modern football with midfielders like Rodri and Laporte, Ruiz and Le Normand all over 6 foot. They were just lapping it up. In fact that was the biggest problem with England retaining possession. None of our players are used to playing that way anymore. Only Rice had the physical presence to contend for those balls( Bellingham was on the wing and Kane didn’t fancy it) Any manager worth his worth would have either given Pickford special instructions or changed him. For me he is also very panicky and shouts a lot .It seems to be an English goalie thing Hart , Ramsdale even Mary Earls a very emotional in goal and sometimes make irrational decisions. A good example is have a looks at Pickford during crosses. I bet you will notice that he would always come out and then change his mind and go back. He would always be caught in no man’s land. It’s sheer luck that we didn’t concede with him doing that. And what is the deal with all the shouting . Creates tension for me. I can see why both Pep and Arteta changed these keepers for ones who are more settled and try to keep possession. Trafford is the future for me. So Danny you have so much more experience than me but in your eagerness to defend Southgate( We understand he is your mate and you guys probably played together or apart of the exEngland union.) I can’t understand how you could have missed so much.
The most productive player for England was Saka and you didn’t even mention him. Next was Cole Palmer who barely had a look in Guehi , Konsa and Watkins.
Southgate failed to utilise his Squad . Why leave Rushford (tournament proven) and Grealish even Sancho at home carry Gordon and barely use him.
Why did he not carry a spare left full back the carried Dunk
Why play trippier again and again while Gomez had played that positional all season for Liverpool ( Most of it while they were top of the league. Trippier had such a bad season and there were rumours he was almost sold by his club.
He was trying out his system within the tournament whereas every other coach chose their squads according to how they wanted to play .
He kept talking about missing Phillips carried Wharton and then never played him.(Not even in the third group game even though we were pretty much through.
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He is good guy so good that he is incapable of making those ruthless decisions necessary to win a tournament
For example Argentina went into the World Cup with Martinez as their top striker. He didn’t perform and was benched with Alvarez taking his place . They ended up winning the tournament based on his goals. In the Cora America the roles were switched with Martinez scoring most of their goals. In tournament football the coach has to be ruthless to get the best for the team. It’s from these decisions we had heroes like scillachi, Rossi who emerged out of nowhere and set tournaments alight. Or not if Southgate was their coaches.
I dare not go into Kane, or Bellingham or Rice’s issues.
But please mr Mills Pickford was probably as much a culpable as was Southgate with all the mistakes highlighted the fact you can’t see it worries me a lot about the state of professionals turning into coaching in England.
Gareth doesn’t know when to change players and played them out of position. Don’t blame the players. Play them in their positions and make changes when needed. Danny can’t talk at all!!!!
Spot on Danny!
Bit weird how at club level they all play well but they all underperform for England, it’s clearly the managers fault, stop defending your mate, the criticism is completely justified
Mills is right to a certaon extent. Some people are celebrating, yet they should hold their horses and be careful what they wish for.
Southgate has raised standards and expectations. Under Southgate England has gone deep into tournaments. There is now an expectation to win and het to finals. If the next man doesn't qualify or get out of the group-stage, people will be crying out for Southgate in a few years time! There will have to be pragmatism at times, not all teams can merely be turned over.
In terms of the new manager:
If English, has to be: Eddie Howe or Carsley.
If non-English: Klopp (though doubtful he would ever take, as he wants to relax, so no idea why his name is being constantly thrown into the mix).
No way Lampard, Rooney or Gerrard. They have poor man-management and inter-personal skills.
No way: the Argentian Pochettino.
Love Jordan P and he has been one of our best players throughout the tournament but his long ball distribution was woeful against Spain and was the wrong choice, we should've built up through mid-field, rather than try and launch long to an out of form Kane
Saying it doesn't matter how attactive you play and it's all about winning. You could have given other examples than Guardiola and Mourinho because Guardiola has been much more succesfull than Mourinho in his career playing attractive football, whilst Mourinho was succesfull on his first teams but since many years ago has had a very moderate success.
You say it's all about winning and you can play the worst football in the world that as long as you win that will be fine. But what happens when you play crap football and you don't win? If you are not winning anyway, at least you could play decent football.
Jurgen or Peps or Anceloti or R.Mancini or A.Conti or M.Lippi will end 62 yrs of hurt at the UK based Euro28, (if not at the USA World Cup 2026, but Messi & Argentina will probably defeat 3 🦁 in that final)
Gareth laid the foundation of future success & is appreciated by the majority of 3 🦁 fans.
(ESPN poll of 20000+ fans shows 3 in 5 fans think he did a good job).
A nice guy who did his best, thats all u can ask for. I think he will win a cup with a nice club like Cyrille Regis's WBA.
Prof A.G.Haq
Danny Mills decides what is relevant and not. Often it is not rooted in fact.
Who is Graham effin potter ffs. The FA had got the money. Klopp is available. He likes the uk. Pay him what he wants.
Mills suggesting that Southgate is a better manager than Terry Venables 😂
At England he is 2 semis 2 finals did that old fart do that ? Or better yet did he win anything either?
Here's my take, I agree that most of the blame is on the players since most of them didn't play well at all. However, to say coach didn't have enough time is utter nonsense. He had years with the main core group of guys to build chem and they never showed it. Look at scaloni he had build a team from nothing in short amount of time. Whenever you have a group of world class guys you will be expected to win with class. Why did it take 4 games to realize saka was weak on the RW. Foden and Palmer both better this tourney on that side
50,000 people, a small village??
Why is it going to be a difficult role to fulfill? Which manager wouldn't want to coach arguably the best crop of players since 1996, where some of them are bordering on world class. Southgate did well but it could've been so tactically better.
Because what manager wants to put up with the English media, deluded media and fans like you with absolute nonsense like "best crop since 96", and anything but winning a trophy is failure even though ye have never been a big hitter at tournaments. Every England team from about 96-2006 would absolutely smash this team
1. The English soccer community (fans and journalists) pull down their own too often. The reason they have many wonderkids that did not live to the hype and no manager in the last 5 decades that is really successful.
2. There is a disturbing obsession with attacking football and so called “entertaining” football among most fans these days. Fans are increasingly becoming unrealistic in their expectations of how they believe football should be played all the time.
3. One of the reason is too many biased and subjective journalists these days. Absolutely nothing to learn from them. They always have an agenda against manager, team or player.
Danny Mills doesn’t tip - FACT. How hard is it for a multi-millionaire to leave a few quid for their waiter? One of the on,y people to leave zero ….. no respect for him
Pep and kloop will definitely do a better job than southgate even if they get a short period of time. Just look at spain and germany how their play style changed in a matter of months . So, stop giving us excuses relating to time. Southgate is an england manager since 2016 and his playing didn't changed a bit.
Good interview Danny, appreciate the honesty. Watching Southgate's England was a dull affair, not many great attacking goals to remember.
You can never please everyone. Everyone loves to have a opinion and its usually negative. Is easier . And especially for jealousy
The argument that club managers get day after day to implement a style is ridiculous BTW. If you don't have that time, take your best players, build the system around them and how they play and go from there. The Foden issue the whole tournament was ridiculous
Absolutely correct from Danny. How you win isn't important so long as you win. England lack identity. Do you want a possession based football or is a counter attacking system your prefferd system. Perhaps, a blend of both? Now, playing the 'best' football don't always win you major tournaments. The team who know their identity do well. Greece 2004 is a very good example.
To my mind it’s been opportunities missed, to win you’ve got to have the ability and mindset…, we had the ability which was clear but unfortunately his mindset denied us the chance to be champions several times! He can be proud of his achievements but shamed for not fulfilling the promise of the players he managed as Englands Manager!
Danny Mills talks a load of rubbish, he didn't mention Saka ⭐️ and defends Southgates poor selection, tactics, football and subs. What a tool!
Justified!!
Jamie Vardy retired from international football because of him.
Inept tactically.
Danny you are talking bollox
What criticism towards Gareth was personal?? 🤔
How did he not use Gordon at all. Foden is a great player,but Gordon is better in that position
oh right Mills its the taking part that counts then, I actually agree with most of it. I doubt England will have the success they have had with Southgate but we needed the change we need an tough manager who will stick to a plan and drop players who are not up to it. Id go with an older man like Redknapp with Lampard as assistant if we go with a younger Id get Howe forget Potter.
Thank GOD someone has said " its about winning" in whatever way you do it !!
Sor clive woodward knew that and his rugby team won the world cup!
And some of those games weren't about entertaining.
They were about players adapting , fighting, and playing for each other.. not for the manager or the fans.. for each other.
southgate didnt win though !
I thank Southgate and he has done great job but some of his decision was questionable because some players are not in their regular positions, no natural left footed left back apart from Luke Shaw, substitute was coming on too late. He could have been out at round of 16 by Slovakia. He was also lucky with draws. He took as to 2 finals but we didn't get the trophy and that's really disappointing and play ugly football. He was too loyal to players like Kane, Foden and Saka when they weren't performing.
Danny average mills shouldn't really be having a say on this but he's right abuse of southgate is wrong
France have won 2 trophies in that time, do you think they're not getting criticism after their performance?
Said it himself. It's all about winning... 😬😂
They didn’t play to there full potential but he still picked them
Difficult to replace lol, you might get a winning manager now, don't be silly, his teams have beat nobody special understand that, England should have been out long ago, pundits are blowing things out of proportion guys.
Southgate has always been a ridiculously over hyped. With all due respect, he is a very bad football manager, shallow knowledge.
If the result is exceptional, let's see if someone will hire him, friend. Are you blaming players for the game plan, strategy, and squad management? Hire Klopp, then see a real manager.
your vids are majestic, this video made my day💙
What will these pundits say if Southgate goes to utd, liverpool chelsea spurs etc 😂😂
It is just talk, talk, blah, blah, blah Danny Mills....!!!! Ok Gareth Pal. Another one who wants english mate.
If the remit is to win a trophy, you get Klopp, or Mourinho. These guys will be contact regularly when allowed, for England get-together's, and i am sure they don't mind a 2 or 4 year sabaticle from club managing.
What did Eddie Howe do with Newcastle in Champions League, group stages...this last season? he was found out, against Dortmund, AC Milan.
Southgate hasn't even won is the Nations League Cup...!!!
Why this anti-foreign manager for England, the women's manager Sarah Wiegman is dutch. She has won England the Euros in 2022.
Eddie Howe, is not there. It will be another Gareth. We need to win trophies now, the next 1 or 2 coming.
Southgate is about as successful as mills.
Danny who? ...
Mills along with Micah Richards... both fullbacks... both worst pundits...
Talking utter nonesense.... Note... we lost to Iceland with the players he used just before the euros started he is talking b-llox
george best thought football was entertainment and thats why he was george best and danny mills was a plodding talentless journeyman
cannot agree....hes got the best players in the world....in a squad.......playing so negative with attacking players is ...totally foolish........this bunch of players are world cup winners....with the right manager ....the FA.....NEED THE BEST MANAGER IN THE WORLD ....TOO MANAGE THE BEST SQUAD OF PLAYERS IN THE WORLD.......THE LIKES OF PEP GUARDIOLA WOULD HAVE WON ..WITH THIS SQUAD...
Sky - please do better interviews. Getting 'close mates' results in one dimensional interviews.
Klopp and nobody else
He ain't going 😂
i believe, after this england could only reach quarter final.
if that
😂😂 this is ridiculous haha
@ 0:28 "Criticism growing after the last 2 or 3 years" If only he'd listened 2 or 3 years ago.
His job was to win something NOT just be the FA and every players favourite uncle .
You might aswell lose in the group as lose in the final unless you're Mongolia or some country like that
Danny was spot on here. Most English football fans only are interested in football related to their club, they aren't interested in any other football if it doesn't involve their team. Look at the Euro teams, all those "lesser" teams have players in Serie A, La Liga, Bundesliga and the Premier League, but we have this attitude of, never heard of em therefore we'll easily beat them. Ignorance
Give an example of a team we played where our fans did this?
@@paulmurray7671 Slovakia, Slovenia spring to mind
Why would anybody listen to this pratt