The big, bad headphones that won't go away

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  • čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
  • A look at and listen to two generations of very common headphones that were (and still are!) sold under many different brand names, but don't sound nearly as good as their large size may lead you to believe, especially when compared to Walkman-style lightweight headphones.
    Time flow:
    0:29 1971-1992 headphones
    4:59 1992-present headphones
    10:34 Comparison test
    13:56 My recommendation (with ReviewTechUSA)
    #headphones #RetroTech #audiophile

Komentáře • 594

  • @PanekPL
    @PanekPL Před 28 dny +285

    "Of course, the downside of this closed ear design is that somebody or something requires your attention while you're listening to music, you probably won't be able to hear it." lol what downside? that's exactly why I wear these kinds of headphones

    • @mercuryoak2
      @mercuryoak2 Před 28 dny +10

      There is a downside if there is a medical emergency or somebody came into your house and you didn't know it. Or what if your significant other or somebody needed your help or attention. That's what he was getting at

    • @RSOFT92
      @RSOFT92 Před 28 dny +3

      That reminds me of a Video from Doctor Mix (The Mellotron: Famous Songs), i was watching with my cheap Behringer HPS3000 Headphones on.
      At some point in the Video, someone behind the Camera whistles and Claps and i almost jumped off my exercise ball* because i thought someone was standing behind me.
      They are cheap headphones, but this moment really felt like the sound was coming from behind me.
      *Note: I use an exerciseball as chair for my desk

    • @app0the
      @app0the Před 28 dny +10

      @@RSOFT92 that's how you know the recording is well mastered and your system is fine enough. One day I was watching some movie, and there was a silent scene where the characters were entering their apartment, recorded from the inside of the room. The door clacked and I put the movie on pause and went to check who the heck managed to break into my house?! Then it hit me - my left/right connection was messed up, so even though the door opened on the left in the movie, it came out of the right speaker, which is where the hallway was, and that was close enough to pass off as a real door lmao

    • @RSOFT92
      @RSOFT92 Před 28 dny +3

      @@app0the
      Something like this happened to me yesterday. Heard a new song for the first time via Headphones and i thought "Who is talking so loudly outside?".
      Wasn't someone talking outside, was someone talking in the background of the recording which i didnt hear via loudspeakers previously.
      But youre right, the right equipment (on both sides) can make all the difference.

    • @jamesslick4790
      @jamesslick4790 Před 27 dny +1

      @@mercuryoak2 I live by myself on the top floor of a secured building. It would take a helicopter or being Spider Man to break in to my apartment. If I am doing serious listening like editing tracks (I'm a musician) I want TOTAL isolation.

  • @kubicajakub
    @kubicajakub Před 28 dny +492

    "Professional Studio" - but nobody said it was audio production studio, maybe professional hair styling studio.

    • @siliconinsect
      @siliconinsect Před 28 dny +29

      They seriously are. I worked at a college radio station and the studio headphones took such a beating garbage like this is what was used for guests. Anyone serious had their own cans but most got stuck with these -- complete with other peoples' hair grease!

    • @_ADM_
      @_ADM_ Před 28 dny +6

      that's because -"hair styling studio"- sounds like an example of Orwellian New Speach

    • @CaveyMoth
      @CaveyMoth Před 28 dny +2

      I was never a fan of that "Studio Sound for Pros" description. Companies keep throwing it onto their audio products, and all it really means is "Competent, Balanced Enough" at best.

    • @alang5764
      @alang5764 Před 28 dny +2

      I don't like your chances of getting a decent haircut with these on.

    • @jmialtacct
      @jmialtacct Před 28 dny +1

      Or 8-square-meter "studios" marketed to "young professionals" in my city. Only 200k euros, batteries not included, but at least it has a water faucet.

  • @shortcat
    @shortcat Před 28 dny +62

    The difference of quality between these three is very noticeable on a built-in speaker of a cheap smartphone.

    • @brpadington
      @brpadington Před 20 dny +2

      The pair I had sounded very good. I think there may have been a lot of variance based on which brand made it.

  • @porklaser
    @porklaser Před 28 dny +158

    I saw these headphones hanging on the side of a laptop/chromebook cart in a classroom yesterday, and I remember the older variant connected to old reel-to-reel players in my school library in the early 80s.
    They're a staple in education. Large, sturdy, inexpensive. They'll connect to anything with TR or TRRS jack. They're adjustable and the large cups sit comfortably on heads of any size. And, very importantly, they're easy to clean!

    • @RowanBird779
      @RowanBird779 Před 28 dny +11

      in grade 8, my school had a pile of these awful things and literally all of them had a non-functioning right ear cup

    • @grayrabbit2211
      @grayrabbit2211 Před 28 dny +3

      The ones we had in school were terrible. Terribly uncomfortable, sound quality was crap, noise isolation was non-existent. I used to just bring my own.

    • @qwertykeyboard5901
      @qwertykeyboard5901 Před 28 dny +1

      And for that, they did a pretty good job.

    • @jamesslick4790
      @jamesslick4790 Před 27 dny +2

      My kid (if 34 is a "kid", LOL) is a Language Arts teacher and "Califone" is to educational audio what "Kodak" once was to film. It's an OMNIPRESENT brand in schools. And has been for decades. "Cheap" but rugged enough for use by -the little bastards- er, students. LOL

    • @robotman5105
      @robotman5105 Před 2 dny

      Comfortable? I have no idea how people came to the conclusion that these are comfortable. my ears always rests against the grill and it hurts after 10 minutes. They felt and sounded like shit in elementary school and they still do in high school. I have to angle them so the pads rest on my ears, sacrificing audio clarity for my own sanity and comfort.

  • @James_Ryan
    @James_Ryan Před 28 dny +83

    I just remembered: Sony were the first to introduce headphones with rare-earth magnets - the BBC TV show Tomorrow's World demoed it in 1980 (there's a clip on the BBC Archive channel if anyone's interested.)

    • @Ray_of_Light62
      @Ray_of_Light62 Před 28 dny +3

      Those used samarium and cobalt. Neodymium arrived in the audio sector much later.

    • @Dingleberry1856
      @Dingleberry1856 Před 28 dny +7

      @@Ray_of_Light62it’s not hard to research before stating nonsense. From Sony corporation, “…but in the 1970s, highly magnetic rare-earth magnets and ultra-thin polyester film led to compact, 23-mm drivers - the prototype of current headphones, offering sufficient audio quality even from amp output powered by a dry cell battery. This was the MDR-3”

    • @puppable
      @puppable Před 28 dny +5

      ​@@Dingleberry1856 samarium-cobalt is a type of rare earth magnet

    • @Dingleberry1856
      @Dingleberry1856 Před 27 dny +1

      @@puppable I know, and you know but I was letting Ray_of_Light62 in on the secret.

    • @video99couk
      @video99couk Před 23 dny +3

      I have my "Samarium Cobalt Supermagnet" Ross RE-278 headphones from around 1982. They still sound surprisingly good. But they weren't cheap.

  • @davidleeashkenazi8992
    @davidleeashkenazi8992 Před 28 dny +77

    Had a pair "sound-quality" resembled being underwater.

  • @Recordology
    @Recordology Před 28 dny +39

    That out of phase demonstration was 🤌🏻

    • @jamesslick4790
      @jamesslick4790 Před 27 dny +3

      I know, right? VERY good demo!

    • @sonicbro6446
      @sonicbro6446 Před 12 dny

      The only problem is for those who are watching this on a smartphone or in mono, they won't get any sound due to the inverted signal

    • @alexs81-
      @alexs81- Před 7 dny

      @@sonicbro6446 Smartphones with one speaker use only one channel of sound, not the sum of L+R. I have had several smartphones over the years, all of them had this drawback.

  • @jdbarker32
    @jdbarker32 Před 28 dny +150

    Holy crap. I work at a local news station, and I was editing a story yesterday that used footage from a school, and they had those exact headphones. You must be reading my mind, man. 😂

    • @elladomisteriosodelaislawoodoo
      @elladomisteriosodelaislawoodoo Před 28 dny +9

      I remember using those headphones when we had state testing. Another reason to hate them

    • @williamjones4483
      @williamjones4483 Před 28 dny +1

      Califone made A/V equipment aimed primarily to educational and institutional use. Don't expect great sound quality from them.

    • @jamesslick4790
      @jamesslick4790 Před 27 dny +3

      My daughter is a Language Arts teacher and "Califone" is to educational audio what "Kodak" once was to film. It's an OMNIPRESENT brand in schools. And has been for decades. "Cheap" but rugged enough for use by -the little bastards- er, students. LOL

    • @audvidgeek
      @audvidgeek Před 22 dny

      @@williamjones4483 Califone equipment made before the turn of the 21st century though was MUCH more durable, and their old classroom phonographs actually sounded pretty good. Can't say they were good on records, with their 8 gram VTF, but their 6X9 speaker would crank out some pretty nice sound

  • @eldebo99
    @eldebo99 Před 28 dny +39

    Okay the out of phase audio bit at 9:20 was really cool and appreciated. Even on desktop speakers the effect was, as you said, disconcerting.

    • @eldebo99
      @eldebo99 Před 28 dny +4

      Interestingly enough, it looks like CZcams captions didn't catch what you said during that time.

    • @diegoscopia
      @diegoscopia Před 28 dny +4

      If you listen to it on mono, you hear absolutely nothing. Which makes sense, but it threw me off while wearing one earbud only!

    • @ivannatinkle
      @ivannatinkle Před 28 dny

      ​@@eldebo99 woah

    • @davidg4288
      @davidg4288 Před 27 dny +3

      I was surprised by that as well. I don't know why, desktop speakers are two feet apart and a foot from each ear. They're like really big headphones. At least I now know my desktop speakers are in phase.

  • @belzebub16
    @belzebub16 Před 28 dny +26

    9:57 - here in Germany this is called the "bathtub" setting 😊

  • @DavidWasman
    @DavidWasman Před 28 dny +55

    I always sell Nova 45s on ebay for $50 and under on purpose to screw over the scumbags over-pricing them due to the Stranger Things tax. I also sold multiple WM-8 Walkmans (model she used which was considered extremely basic and cheap, back then) for similarly low prices. Never sold one for more than $100.
    Vultures on ebay are ruining walkman and audio sales.

    • @hydorah
      @hydorah Před 24 dny +5

      I love it when idiot sellers say "Stranger Things" and multiply the price by 5. Their items don't sell

    • @patrickmersault4298
      @patrickmersault4298 Před 20 dny +4

      You’re doing god’s work.

    • @mramisuzuki6962
      @mramisuzuki6962 Před 17 dny

      You can buy Sony Pros for that price.

    • @DavidWasman
      @DavidWasman Před 17 dny

      @@mramisuzuki6962 Why would you use Sony pros with vintage hardware, though

    • @mramisuzuki6962
      @mramisuzuki6962 Před 17 dny

      @@DavidWasman they are vintage hardware.

  • @glynnetolar4423
    @glynnetolar4423 Před 28 dny +6

    Ugh, my first headphones were like that. Branded by a local department store. The reason they can be used as speakers is because that's exactly what they had in them. Like transistor radio speakers. Oh, you covered that
    This reminds me of my graphics history. Years after those i got some Q-10 it was it 15? Open back. They were ok. Have no idea who made then. Then some Audio Technica that sat on ear. They were actually pretty good. Then, at the time, really nice ones were the Sony MDR V6. Those were fantastic. Then back to some open backs, Grado SR60. Where i discovered how the 'sound stage' opens up with open back headphones. Those were great but don't last. Back to the you're cheap but sound good for the price Monoprice $20 specials. They will not last though. Cable and glue issues. So finally found out the MDR V6 is still sold and got another pair of them. And now for the first time i have 2 pairs of headphones. As i now have the very good sounding and comfortable Audio Technica ATH-M50X. Finally detachable cable! Oh, in this history I've had some rear buds but few were good sounding. Wow, after typing this i didn't realize how many is gone though.

    • @mal2ksc
      @mal2ksc Před 28 dny +1

      Still have and use my MDR-V600 with the anti-booming mod that basically makes them into V6 (take the foam out of the middle of the magnet, it eliminates the artificially boosted bass). I master on them, along with a pair of Tannoy SRM-12B speakers.

  • @angelfire2023
    @angelfire2023 Před 28 dny +9

    13:46 The acting here makes it seem like whatever he's listening to is progressively getting worse and worse, and he's trying his best to act like he is enjoying what he's hearing. xD

  • @vhfgamer
    @vhfgamer Před 28 dny +35

    Ahhhhh, those later model caliphone ones look very familiar.
    My high school used those quite a lot in the computer labs. We had a system where some classes were taught digitally. So each student would have headphones so they could hear the lecture without bothering anyone else. It was a great system because we could all work at our own pace. This would have been some time around 2010 or so.
    Nobody knew this at the time, but I snuck an album of The Ventures onto my computer, so I could listen to surf music while doing the non lecture parts of the class.

  • @a1white
    @a1white Před 28 dny +6

    neodymium magnets have improved headphones so much since then

    • @saricubra2867
      @saricubra2867 Před 15 dny

      I have the legendary DT770 Pro 32ohm that i bought on amazon Black Friday and Amazon cards for 56 dollars. The competition would be a HIFIman Sundara which is electrostatic, Sennheiser HD600 and 650 (legendary as well).

    • @autoteleology
      @autoteleology Před 13 dny +2

      ​@@saricubra2867 Hifiman Sundaras are planar magnetic, not electrostatic.

  • @revolver64
    @revolver64 Před 28 dny +3

    How far we’ve come since those days. After hearing records and tapes on subpar components like this for years, it’s no wonder that when CDs were released, how amazing they sounded and how records and tapes took such a steep dive.

  • @marcberm
    @marcberm Před 28 dny +7

    "Lección tres, ejerciccio dos. Listen to the model, and repeat the phrase when prompted..."

  • @STR82DVD
    @STR82DVD Před 28 dny +3

    I literally have 10 pair of Koss Porta Pros. That's what I always used on my Walkmans lad. Bloody brilliant sound reproduction that does not need to be equalized.

  • @GuyPerson-jt9tv
    @GuyPerson-jt9tv Před 26 dny +1

    Just gave me flashbacks to using these in my elementary school's computer lab in the early 2000s.

  • @ryoncon
    @ryoncon Před 28 dny +23

    Those crappy Califone headphones... My high school (in a large Ecuadorian city) had them in their English language labs, as they call them. Their audio quality was horrid. Very uncomfortable to wear, some of my classmates switched to their Discman headphones if they had the adaptor. Some headphones, even without one year of use, had issues with one or both speakers and even the 1/4" jack.
    That was between 2000 and 2003, and worn-out cassettes played with boomboxes of questionable fidelity were the norm. Eventually, I learned a bit of English by myself.

  • @MistaMaddog247
    @MistaMaddog247 Před 28 dny +22

    When I was in high school during the late 80s, my mom bought me those types of headphones from Radio Shack because I kept blasting my rap tapes too loud.
    As a teen I balked at the size and 70s style compared to the "modern" marshmallow headphones I use for my Walkman...but once I used them the required bass, for hip-hop , sounded much better than the mini stereo speakers which were cheap. So I kept using those types of headphones eventually moving up to the Koss brand.
    Even now I use an expensive wireless headset to block out outside noise and immerse myself into the music and games on my PC.

  • @laranaarana
    @laranaarana Před 28 dny +8

    The first headphone set I purchased was when I was working at Radio Shack, the Realistic/Koss Pro-60 and used them for more than 15 years.

  • @BrettsHistoryClub
    @BrettsHistoryClub Před 28 dny +20

    I like the designs of the Walkman earphones more than the modern earphones (then the little earbud with little to no protection are garbage!). The modern earphones are ones I've been using for a large part of my life, and they feel pretty good.

    • @volvo09
      @volvo09 Před 28 dny +4

      They had no bass response though.

    • @chinmeysway
      @chinmeysway Před 28 dny +2

      yes it’s just hard to come across that type of design but i have found new ones like that w the old design but a bit cheapo (from office depot)

    • @jtchoi2003
      @jtchoi2003 Před 25 dny

      Basically, on-ear headphones? You can still find new cans with a similar design, like a lot of Koss headphones.

  • @audvidgeek
    @audvidgeek Před 22 dny +2

    I loved my Nova 45 headphones when I was in college. Wore them while walking to my classes listening to my Aiwa portable cassette player. wore them out, and ended up replacing them with PRO25's and was amazed at the sound of them...been using them since, and bought the Koss version of them a few years back myself

  • @marcberm
    @marcberm Před 28 dny +26

    Good call. I definitely wouldn't be one to delve into the circumaural vs. uncutaural debate either.

    • @bens1343
      @bens1343 Před 28 dny +7

      Intactaural thank you very much :P

    • @marcberm
      @marcberm Před 28 dny +4

      @@bens1343 🤣 Lol. Not judging either way. Looks like I ended up in the debate after all.

    • @ThatElectronicsFool
      @ThatElectronicsFool Před 27 dny

      Shirts vs. Skins of audio

    • @melody3741
      @melody3741 Před 18 dny +1

      The WHAT

  • @AmeshaSpentaArmaiti
    @AmeshaSpentaArmaiti Před 2 dny +1

    thank you for that unannounced demo of out of phase audio, i almost thought the voices had come back!

  • @shmehfleh3115
    @shmehfleh3115 Před 28 dny +2

    Anyone who went to public school in the 80s ought to recognize these suckers. I remember them being plugged into old Voice of Music record players.

  • @eskeletor
    @eskeletor Před 28 dny +12

    nice skycorp cameo

  • @twocvbloke
    @twocvbloke Před 28 dny +9

    We've all used them I'm sure, the Nova 28/57 kind I remember in school music classrooms hooked up to the Casio keyboards, I don't recall the brands we had being in the UK (that and I finished school in 2001), but I do recall those volume knobs and the Stereo/Mono switches, and them not being very good quality, I think my dad even had some pairs of both kinds for metal detecting for a while too... :\

  • @applescruff1969
    @applescruff1969 Před 28 dny +3

    I recently bought a new pair of Koss Porta Pro's. They're still the best cheap headphones you'll ever get!

  • @KC4RAE
    @KC4RAE Před 27 dny +2

    I had a pair of Pro 25s when I was growing up. They were really good headphones. I used them all the time and, if I remember correctly, it had a inline volume control. Never could find anything that sounded that good. I couldn't wear them at the radio station, so I never looked for another pair when they got lost.

  • @JacGoudsmit
    @JacGoudsmit Před 28 dny +3

    Those black headphones are exactly the same as the ones I got around 1982. Mine were Philips branded. The sound quality was very low and they started hurting your head after just a short while, so I didn't use them much, but the stereo-mono switch made them perfect for checking the azimuth on my tape and cassette recorders.

  • @UserUser-zc6fx
    @UserUser-zc6fx Před 28 dny +17

    LOL, looking at the way you had that graphic EQ adjusted took me back. I remember having to always set mine exactly like this back in the 80s to get these headphones to sound decent on our old JC Penny stereo.

    • @mikeg2491
      @mikeg2491 Před 28 dny +1

      I never understood why there were fabulous speakers in the 60s and 70s but all the headphones were junk. I don’t even know how people could listen to them.

    • @UserUser-zc6fx
      @UserUser-zc6fx Před 28 dny +1

      @@mikeg2491 Yep. Even cheap stereo systems like our JC Penny unit had good sounding speakers. I think it was mostly teens and kids being forced to use these headphones by parents that didn't want to be disturbed. I can't ever remember seeing an adult actually using these to listen to music. When they wanted to listen to music they told the kids to shut up and go outside and played it through the speakers.

  • @user-cd8ri1mc6s
    @user-cd8ri1mc6s Před 28 dny +3

    They were bought because of being cheap. The Koss high end Radio Shack headphones suffered from tubby bass, and my neck muscles hated them. Which is why my radio career began with a pair of Sennheiser HD-414 cans in 1973. (my boss bought me a pair when he saw my neck in the position it was in). The Sennheisers still work great (I have a newer pair as well).

    • @SmallSpoonBrigade
      @SmallSpoonBrigade Před 17 dny +1

      I personally just buy Shure and Sennheiser at this point. I've had the same Shure e2c ear buds for more years that I can remember, and the only reason that I am onto my second set of Sennheisers is because I got fancy and didn't want that screw that I had to insert due to me messing up the adjustments.
      Spend the money on a decent set and it'll probably last many decades as the sound quality is about as good as they're likely to ever achieve. Upgrading made me reencode my MP3 collection because what had been tolerable quality isn't with better listening equipment.

  • @KarlAdamsAudio
    @KarlAdamsAudio Před 28 dny +5

    9:20 Bravo! I've got to pay that one - and yes, I was listening on headphones. I remember growing up we had a pair of the 'Nova-10' style headphones with K-Mart branding, they were just as bad as all the others.

  • @VeitLehmann
    @VeitLehmann Před 22 dny +2

    Those big black ones really were everywhere. I bought one as a kid in a supermarket in Germany. They are great headphones... to take apart and see how they work. That's what I did, because even back then, I hated the sound and was thinking I could improve them by messing with them 😅
    Now I just bought another pair of big black headphones that won't go away even after being produced for almost 40 years. But which sound great. Guess which 😁

  • @Nytalite
    @Nytalite Před 28 dny +2

    12:07 As a longtime radio listener in the Washington, DC area, it makes me happy when you play the WRQX-FM/Mix 107.3 tape. We sadly lost it with the Cumulus-EMF deal in 2019, where it was turned into a K-Love affiliate.

  • @kodtech
    @kodtech Před 28 dny +21

    9:20 🤣🤣🤣 "...the sound come from inside your head..."

    • @CaveyMoth
      @CaveyMoth Před 28 dny +5

      I was wondering how he knew they were out of phase..and then "oh".

  • @foorje
    @foorje Před 27 dny +2

    I appreciate the little stereo mic recording of the headphones. Personally, I've retrofitted a couple of these older headphones with some nicer modern (but still cheap) chinese speakers of brands like Superlux.

  • @shaneluttrell532
    @shaneluttrell532 Před 27 dny +1

    I ordered a pair of Koss KTXPro1 headphones on Amazon just now, based on your recommendation. Thanks!

  • @DirectorCM
    @DirectorCM Před 28 dny +2

    Man, stop. I LOVED these headphones!! Back in the 80s and 90s these are the headphones I used to use with my Walkman because I hated the little cheapo headphones that came with the Walkman. My father would let me use a pair of his headphones because he was a musician and had about 6 pairs. Riding the subway to and from school, blasting music into my brain. Good times. The only thing that sucked was using the adapter to turn the huge jack into a small one.

  • @AndyBHome
    @AndyBHome Před 28 dny +2

    I believe the Koss KTX-Pro1 "Titanium" headphones are the world's champion underrated headphones. They sell for near the bottom and I think they perform like $200 headphones. The one drawback you them is of course their build quality which is just cheap plastic. But they're very well designed; comfortable and reasonably durable considering their price. There very easy to drive, and they sound great on good equipment!

  • @duprie37
    @duprie37 Před 28 dny +12

    Surprisingly, even on my Pixel 7smartphone speakers I got the gist pretty well of the difference between the three pairs of headphones.

    • @31337_alex
      @31337_alex Před 28 dny

      Unsurprising considering that most of them lack bass.

  • @donnierussellii4659
    @donnierussellii4659 Před 28 dny +37

    Porta Pros are the only headphones I can wear comfortably with glasses. It amazes me that most headphone manufacturers create ear torturing devices with poorer sound for more money.

    • @DerekDominoes
      @DerekDominoes Před 22 dny +1

      I like the SportaPro headphones even more. I guess the sound isn't as good as with the PortaPros (although I can't tell the difference) but I find the SportaPros to be even more comfortable.

    • @cloudycolacorp
      @cloudycolacorp Před 21 dnem +1

      I love how comfy they are, no feeling of being clamped whatsoever.

  • @bandombeviews6035
    @bandombeviews6035 Před 28 dny +3

    yep, had these in elementary school in the late 2000s/early 2010s. They were in the computer lab, but teachers normally had like 10 pairs of those on ear koss sets

  • @themaritimegirl
    @themaritimegirl Před 24 dny +1

    Going by your test as a comparison, the modern Peerless drivers I put in my Nova 10s have indeed improved the sound quality a lot, but the design of the casing itself still reduces it quite a bit.

  • @albear972
    @albear972 Před 28 dny +4

    I remember having a pair like those in the early 90's. A giant pair of cheap plastic Sony branded ones, they cost $39.99 But they were Sony. Back then that was a very prestigious brand. 3:36 No highs, no lows, they must be Bose! Kidding, even though I still have my Bose 301 speakers from 1995 which I like, I remember that quote from the so-called gullible and easy to scam audiophiles. And dang! I still remember seeing that Garfield comic from 1987. I was a 14-year-old kid then.

  • @AyesC9000
    @AyesC9000 Před 28 dny +2

    Instantly recognized the califone ones. Saw these all throughout elementary and high school everywhere, and they were always garbage. If you were lucky both sides would work and the audio wouldn't cut in and out, but that's probably because of how much they were (ab)used by other students.

  • @thekidfromiowa
    @thekidfromiowa Před 28 dny +2

    Never heard the term "donut" before. Now I reading a glossary of radio jargon.

  • @alisharifian535
    @alisharifian535 Před 28 dny +1

    I remember the second one, our school had a language lab installed in 2002 or so. Really comfortable to wear as you mentioned, but didn't sound Hi-Fi for sure, and they had microphones.

  • @EddieJazzFan
    @EddieJazzFan Před 28 dny +2

    Speaking of Califone, I'd like to get one of the old "built like a tank" Califone classroom record players, but they have gone up in price recently.

  • @stevewhitcher6719
    @stevewhitcher6719 Před 28 dny +2

    It was the mylar drive units and the fully enclosed design that let them down. But they were bomb proof.However since covid i WFH and i'm on teams/zoom meetings all day i use something not too desimilar but with a built in microphone so they are headsets rather than headphones often i use only the microphone part and use speakers as well and only wear they when i am speaking. I use they because they are more robust and with only 1 wire they get in less of a tangle.

  • @vtec5862
    @vtec5862 Před 28 dny +16

    I'm a big headphone enjoyer. The amount of times i lost those stupid earbuds i'm never going back to them

    • @LapisandHamtarolover
      @LapisandHamtarolover Před 28 dny +2

      Moreso with the modern earpods wireless designs!

    • @mechadeka
      @mechadeka Před 28 dny

      @@LapisandHamtarolover ??
      You put them in the charger when you take them out.

    • @Warp3326
      @Warp3326 Před 28 dny +1

      @@mechadeka No you dont. You only do that if they are dead

    • @Warp3326
      @Warp3326 Před 28 dny +2

      Same. Headphones usally have better sound quality, plus they stay on much better than earbuds

    • @SmallSpoonBrigade
      @SmallSpoonBrigade Před 17 dny +1

      @@mechadeka Some of the more recent designs have a charger built into the case. You put the ear buds into the case, and a small battery starts to charge them. Get home and plug the case into the charger and everything stays charged.

  • @FranklyPeetoons
    @FranklyPeetoons Před 28 dny

    Memories. My first 'phones were new-old-stock Radio Shacks from the 70s, identical to your examples. They cost a pittance at a thrift store, with the original yellowing paper inside. Often I fell asleep wearing them, listening to FM radio and custom-recorded tapes of rainstorms. An adapter was necessary to use them with the tiny jack on my radio/cassette player. I had that same pair for decades until they fell apart.

  • @Terada85
    @Terada85 Před 28 dny +1

    I love the looks I get when I use my 1968 national "ナショナル" headphones with my WALKMAN

    • @davidg4288
      @davidg4288 Před 27 dny +1

      David Clark used to sell stereo headphones, in addition to their usual communications headphones you see on pilots. I put the small plug on mine and used them with my Walkman as well. They had a nice punch to them you didn't get from the Walkman headphones, and they didn't bother anyone nearby since they were "closed ear".

  • @ka7hqp182
    @ka7hqp182 Před 21 dnem

    The Radio Shack versions were usually everyone's first set of "Cans" many many years ago. Sound was improved by placing a sock inside the headphones behind the speaker to dampen the sound and slightly improve the low end. Next we moved up to the Radio Shack LV-10 headphones that actually were OEM by KOSS, (HV/1) and the plastic molded headphones actually still had the name KOSS on them even though they were badged LV-10 and sold by Radio Shack. The LV-10 and HV/1 response was 20 - 20,000, very good, but the big brother to them in the same form factor, same looks, was the KOSS HV/1A with the superior driver with a response of 20 - 30,000.
    While no one can hear 30,000 hz, the accuracy of all of the audio frequencies that you can hear, is quite clear and will really surprise you. We're not talking newer CDs, mp3s or FM radio here, those all lack real audio definition. And not just Classical, but vintage Rock like Yes, Pink Floyd, Procol Harum and many others.
    Never accept what other opinions are regarding headphones as everyone has different ears, ear canals, and interpretations of how things should sound. Some like a Boom Boom Boom sound where a real audio purist wants to hear every instrument. And notice that no longer do they provide actual printed test specifications, just unscientific opinions.

  • @Choralone422
    @Choralone422 Před 28 dny +1

    Those old giant headphones bring back memories! My parents had a set of them in the early to mid 80s. I used to love to plug them in to the giant Montgomery Ward branded console stereo they had. Even though the sound quality was poor it was the only way to listen to music really loud!
    In the early 90s I saved up and bought myself a good Sony Walkman, model WM-FX 43, and with it used multiple sets of Radio Shack Realistic PRO-25 headphones. The headphones were $39.95 each at the time and I loved the awesome sound they had. I used them everywhere and usually ended up having to buy a new set about once a year for a few years.
    These days I still prefer over the ear headphones. I have set of JBL branded ones for music listening while I use my computer and an inexpensive bluetooth set for when I do yard work with the mower or string trimmer.

  • @RJDA.Dakota
    @RJDA.Dakota Před 28 dny +2

    For my headset I used almost this exact same equalizer setting. 😂 because it looks soo familiar.

  • @FoxerTails
    @FoxerTails Před 28 dny +1

    Heheh, those Califones I remember using in school as a kid. They were blue and black but didn't have the padded head rests. Just the black plastic.

  • @philspear73
    @philspear73 Před 28 dny +5

    i can't stand the in-ear earbuds, so a decent pair of headphones is a must. Beats headphones are decent but good to know the Koss are a cheap alternative. Using Panasonic RP-HT21s now, they are decent enough.

  • @Markimark151
    @Markimark151 Před 28 dny +2

    Those big headphones like Califone weren’t too bad for just listening to audiobooks in elementary school, I remember we were in the library and listening to Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs, group of eight students with those headphones in the listening station.

  • @AttilaSVK
    @AttilaSVK Před 28 dny +4

    I used a pair of Koss Porta Pros for a couple of years, and later switched to Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro (the 32 ohm version) for travelling and DT990 Pro 250 ohm for home use. 5 years ago I got myself a pair of Bose QuietComfort 35 IIs because my phone didn't have a 3,5mm jack socket anymore.

    • @joshuaford4460
      @joshuaford4460 Před 28 dny +3

      Even if I've got better headphones for home use and iems/earphones for portable use, I still keep my PortaPro Communication in case i ever need a headset with a mic on the go. It's the best headset mic ive experienced so far, damn near rivaling the desktop mic i typically use. Koss definitely makes some good stuff for the price (KSC75 also comes to mind).

    • @AttilaSVK
      @AttilaSVK Před 28 dny

      @@joshuaford4460 I remember modding my pair of PortaPros with replacing the cable with one from an Apple headset, so I'd have an inline remote control and microphone as well.

  • @croolis
    @croolis Před 15 dny

    I had a pair of Philips headphones when I was a child in the early 80s. Identical to your black headphones with the stereo/mono switch and volume controls. Around 1988 or so I had got hold of a pair of Pioneer SE-205 'coconuts' and although they were still budget headphones (and very heavy) I liked their tonal quality. At the time, around 1991 or so, I had bought a pair of headphones branded 'Pro Luxe Digital 2000' and those, I remember, had incredibly good sound. These days I have quite a few headphones to choose from, but I find myself going back to Grado SR80e when I am at home, Sennheiser Momentum OE2 when I am outside. Thanks for the interesting video & the trip down memory lane!

  • @zuyvox
    @zuyvox Před 28 dny +2

    My mother had one of these headphones. I remember the sound and it was... "interesting" I always thougt that they were pilot headphones for talking over mic

  • @timf-tinkering
    @timf-tinkering Před 28 dny +1

    I had a pair very similar to the Califone ones you show here, except mine were branded Philips. I actually thought they were pretty good, and used them for many years, until the volume pots became so flakey the headphones weren't really usable any more, then I got a pair of Panasonic headphones which made me realise just how bad the "Philips" headphones actually were!

  • @ugzz
    @ugzz Před 28 dny +1

    Great vid and some fun history! I couldn't agree more on the notes at the end about good cheap headphones. If I'm not using my Sennheiser HD set with a pretty beefy amp... I'm using Koss Porta-Pros... and for what they are, they are amazing. And I got em for like $30. They even made some cool beige limited edition ones! I end up using the Koss as much if not more than the Sennheiser! (btw, i'm NOT saying they sound better.. but they sound great and are infinitely more usable, and easy to drive off anything)

  • @hughjanus6975
    @hughjanus6975 Před 28 dny +4

    I wish reviewtechusa would review tech in the usa.

  • @Saturn49YT
    @Saturn49YT Před 28 dny +2

    Those Pro-25s were made by Koss. My pair had Koss embossed on the 3.5mm jack's rubber molding. But the volume slider was pretty bad and always had a slight imbalance in the left/right until you wiggled it a couple times.

  • @kiwatech
    @kiwatech Před 28 dny +1

    i grew up with those, i used to disable the mono stereo switch and the independent volume pots lol, last one i had was branded "smile" around 2005 or so

  • @buckykattnj
    @buckykattnj Před 28 dny +1

    I had a pair of Nova 40 headphones... I think a lot of people were put off my the beige color and hard plastic... but I thought they sounded great for the time (around 1986). I used them everywhere for a decade. They really took a beating, including one night I accidentally dropped them into my aquarium for a few hours... while I dried them out, the hard plastic warped a bit... but they kept working and I used them regularly for another few years. I still have them... but the plastics got icky. They sit in my box of old headphones and broken headphone parts waiting for the day I just chuck it all... with my Skull Candy Bluetooth units working well enough and sounding well enough, I'm probably not going back to cords.
    It was only because I found replacements that were more comfortable and lighter that I stopped using them... but the trade-off was the newer units broke and fell apart in short order. It probably wasn't unit 2004 that I found a pair that I actually preferred the sound of.

  • @cocusar
    @cocusar Před 28 dny +27

    nice cameo of SkyCorp Home Video!

    • @federicoae7671
      @federicoae7671 Před 27 dny +2

      I thought that was Smithers O'Neil

    • @ebbamb
      @ebbamb Před 27 dny +2

      I noticed that as well, came down to the comments to see if anyone else did.

  • @tiikerihai
    @tiikerihai Před 28 dny +1

    I'm using the Sony MDR 7506 headphones and those haven't been changed since the 90s nor has production discontinued since I can still buy new pairs, as far as I know anyway. They are very similar to the MDR V6 headphones which are from the 80s. The Sony headphones are actually extremely good, specially when you consider how cheap they are. Sound easily as good as headphones double the price. Probably the last Sony product still worth buying and I hope they are never discontinued.

    • @mramisuzuki6962
      @mramisuzuki6962 Před 17 dny

      These are essentially an industry standard and have been 79$ since the 80s.

  • @DoodiePunk
    @DoodiePunk Před 20 dny +1

    @9:20, finally someone had a description for out of phase audio! Listening to it on one speaker leads to no sound.

  • @user-ph8jg4zh3j
    @user-ph8jg4zh3j Před 28 dny +1

    The Koss KTX - pro1 headphones are amazing! They exceeded my expectations and thus are my go to's and i have many pairs of respected brand headphones. These Titanium drivers, I really love them! ;)

    • @Wheresthepepsibismol
      @Wheresthepepsibismol Před dnem

      How much bass do they have because I love bass heavy headphones that sound good

  • @halenmartini6705
    @halenmartini6705 Před 28 dny +2

    i had these as a kid in elementary school from kindergarten to 5th grade, all throughout that time those headphones were still extremely uncomfortable. i also managed to half blow one of them out and a lot of times kids would tear the decal off the side/rip off the foam pads

  • @vine00
    @vine00 Před 28 dny

    We had the beige califones in our computer lab about 20 years ago. Kinda nuts how you can still find them even today if you look hard enough.

  • @TechBaffle
    @TechBaffle Před 28 dny +1

    6:17 they're like the ones we had at school - I remember people always messing with the levels on each ear, wondering why they're not working properly 😂

  • @nightbirdds
    @nightbirdds Před 28 dny +15

    Ah, yeah, these bring back memories. The school I went to as a kid actually used these, and for voice they were 'just fine'.
    And oof on the ReviewTech clip. What a self-destruction he had.

    • @fungo6631
      @fungo6631 Před 28 dny +4

      You do realize that VWestlife touches grass and doesn't care about CZcams drama and only cares about a clip being relevant, informative or otherwise useful?

    • @nightbirdds
      @nightbirdds Před 28 dny +4

      @@fungo6631How about funny? Because saying they're equi elant to $200+ headphones is certainly that.

    • @fungo6631
      @fungo6631 Před 28 dny +1

      @@nightbirdds Maybe they really are.

    • @nightbirdds
      @nightbirdds Před 28 dny +3

      @@fungo6631 I can safely say, they are not. I think VW's choice of that clip was an ironic one.

    • @PainterVierax
      @PainterVierax Před 27 dny

      ​@@fungo6631 Pretty sure 200 bucks on a reputable brand (even Beats, so almost anybody) gets you a better sound than those cheapos. This is measurable through testing freq response with lab instruments. Serious reviewers do measurements. Don't trust old near-deaf feelings from audiophiles full of placebo effects, otherwise they may convince you to buy some overpriced vintage equipment or fancy new gadgets.

  • @ergosteur
    @ergosteur Před 28 dny +2

    Oh god we had these at my elementary school for listening to books on tape and language learning tapes. They taught me at the age of 6 how big headphones don’t mean good sound. The only thing I liked about them was that it was my first exposure to 1/4” jacks. Definitely used to turn the volume up and use them as speakers lol😂

  • @ronniepirtlejr2606
    @ronniepirtlejr2606 Před 28 dny +1

    In 1984 when I was 14 years old , I bought a pair of headphones from Kmart (the big studio type) for $25. They sounded great!
    I used the smaller pair with my Walkman.

  • @stereophonicstuff
    @stereophonicstuff Před 14 dny +1

    Quite some time ago, I made the mistake of buying a pair of vintage Koss K6 headphones to use with my stereo. Their beefy appearance had me fooled... right up until I plugged them in and heard how bad they really were. Also, because of their absurdly high clamping force, they were some of the most uncomfortable headphones I had ever worn. I don't recall having ever thrown them out, but I really should've. I've since learned not to be fooled by the majority of those vintage style "serious looking" headphones that typically sound worse than a landline phone. I had even considered replacing those Koss headphones with a pair similar to those Realistics--good thing I didn't!

  • @fnregistration
    @fnregistration Před 25 dny +1

    looks like the headphones we had to use when they tested our hearing in elementary school in the '80s

  • @Stryford1
    @Stryford1 Před 28 dny +1

    I never thought I would ever see the same Optimus Pro25 headphones in 2024 as the ones I bought a long time ago and still own. Even though I still own them, I haven't used them in a couple of decades since it doesn't work properly and don't know how, or want to pay, to fix it. I had no idea there's still a version of that for sale now!

  • @LionWithTheLamb
    @LionWithTheLamb Před 22 dny +1

    My Dad still has his Nova 45 and the box. He used to talk about how good they were and never used them.

  • @EdHelms1
    @EdHelms1 Před 28 dny +3

    Great video, always like seeing Radio Shack products. Have you ever done a video showing all of the different in store brands that Radio Shack offered? Seems like each line of products had their own name, like Nova, Realistic, Optimus.
    Btw - I still use a large over the ear pair of headphones at work because that is the best way I have found to keep people from bothering me.

  • @TheBasementChannel
    @TheBasementChannel Před 26 dny +1

    Wasn’t expecting to encounter the word “poofy” today, but I’m glad I did.

  • @HisXLNC
    @HisXLNC Před 21 dnem

    My dad worked at a Sound Warehouse in the 80s and brought home a few pairs for use in his home studio. The last pair finally got thrown out about 8 years ago during a move. One pro tip he had was to replace the ear cushions with cut sponges. That solved the sweat issue.

  • @williamjones4483
    @williamjones4483 Před 28 dny +2

    @09:09 The speaker in your right hand is wired incorrectly. Unless it's some sort of oddball speaker, if you place the speaker terminal down, red should always go to the left.

  • @Rompler_Rocco
    @Rompler_Rocco Před 16 dny +1

    I found a picture (actually in the thumbnails to some of my videos) reminding me that not only did I record with Realistic Nova's in the 90's, but also MIXED- and even used the left earcup as a makeshift MICROPHONE on the drums 🤦‍♂️

  • @hvxcolors396
    @hvxcolors396 Před 28 dny +2

    Still have a pair of Sansui's from the 1970s. Their sound is questionable but these were used by Polar for Abba so I guess nobody had decent headphones back then.

    • @josangoj78
      @josangoj78 Před 28 dny +1

      In Spain, headphones like the ones shown in the video used to be actually ABBA branded 🤦🏻‍♂️😂

  • @1171karl
    @1171karl Před 22 dny +1

    I had a set of Philips branded Nova28/Califone some years ago. I thought they were alright at the time but a small child broke them - he's 23 now!

  • @sirus2496
    @sirus2496 Před 28 dny +1

    I'm still listening to the Pro-25's today! They're awesome!

  • @ashleycox432
    @ashleycox432 Před 28 dny +2

    interesting video. One of the problems I've had with headphones recently is chinese knockoffs. I used to love the Sennheiser HD202 and was gutted when they discontinued it. I then saw some on Amazon, sold by amazon, and thought they must be leftover stock. But it turned out they were very convincing Chinese knockoffs that sounded absolutely awful. Physically it was hard to tell them apart - even with a pair of genuine Sennheiser headphones to compare them to, but sonically they were actually worse than teh first set of heapdhoens you showed here. I've also seen knockoff audio-technica headphones that again were almost perfect physical replicas of teh real thing but are totally unlistenable. I'd be interested in hearing that infinity promo in full.

  • @FoxMulder78
    @FoxMulder78 Před 28 dny +1

    Great video, as always, Kevin. A pair of affordable Samson SR850 (Superlux OEM) sound way better than any of these.

  • @audubon5425
    @audubon5425 Před 28 dny +1

    I bought four of these two years ago when headphones were on the school supply list, they were Califone 2924-AVPS in translucent blue. No mono switch and one volume knob. Two made it back home at the end of the school year (guess the other teachers kept them.) My oldest daughter blew her pair with her mid-90's Optimus/Soundesign stereo. One is still hanging around.

  • @TommyCrosby
    @TommyCrosby Před 18 dny +1

    Vintage headphones were something else, I remember my childhood and my dad still had his 20+ years old (back then) Realistic Custom Pro [made by Koss] listening to Tommy by The Who (when your name is Tommy, you like Tommy).

  • @jasonschubert6828
    @jasonschubert6828 Před 28 dny +1

    We had these when I was a kid, ironically branded _Realistic._ I remember they were too big for my head so I needed to use a folded up facewasher so they didn't slide down off my ears!

  • @w8lvradio
    @w8lvradio Před 28 dny +2

    In amateur radio, we use the "reverse" smiley face. We also have a "phasing"/switch on our Heil Headphones, and you should try/review some Heil headphones! When mowing the lawn, you can use regular earphones with hearing protectors... It's the "poor man's" method. 😂 All the Best! 73 DE W8LV Bill

  • @user-nh5rb8ig2g
    @user-nh5rb8ig2g Před 25 dny +1

    Still have a pair of NOVA 10's I used to monitor the "Que" buss on FOH sound systems for 100s of live gigs in the 70's - 80's. You just can't kill 'em. GH

  • @karstenbirkle2780
    @karstenbirkle2780 Před 12 dny

    I bought a pair of these in the late 70s, branded "Universum", but did not use them very often, because I felt they were to bulky. Since I bought an electric piano in 1999, I constantly use these headphones with the instrument. The cable has broken twice at the point where it enters the left shell, and I had to repair it. They simply define how my Roland FP-9 sounds to me.