Brake Differential Steering etc. - 8x8 Amphibious Vehicle Argo REBUILD Ep.8
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- čas přidán 31. 08. 2023
- In this video I'm continuing rebuilding the old & beat up ARGO 8x8. I'm salvaging a single UHMW chain tensioner out of eight by sanding it down to make it flat again. Still waiting for the order of a new set of eight chain slide blocks to come in after three months. Outrageous! :) Cutting the right front corner double row chain to length and installing it before anything else goes on the ARGO to make life easier for myself since there will be too little room later when the machine is fully assembled. All the air ducts get bolted in - both for differential brake steering and engine cooling. After lifting the rusty muffler up from the floor I heard a clunking noise and realized there was something loose inside the muffler. So I pulled out two burnt up baffles. I left it "as is" for the time being. I might need to cut it apart and weld in a couple of new baffles to reduce noise. But we'll see once we start this thing up. The muffler had a crack in one of the inlet pipes so it got TIG welded and both the muffler and heat shield got a nice cleanup and a fresh coat of heat resistant paint. Looks way better now. I repaired the upper handlebar/seat/support frame with existing original tubing and patched it up with reinforcement plates. Only time will tell how this fix will handle the heavyweights I'm about to haul around in this tracked amphibious vehicle once it's finished. :D All of the parts that were riveted to the tub before will now get stainless steel hardware. I bled the steering brakes and added DOT.5 brake fluid which should stand higher temperatures since brake steering produces a lot of heat. Then I removed the throttle and throttle cable, brake cable, brake lever and handlebars just to find out how rusted they were. All good in the end since everything got refurbished and installed back on the ARGO. However - my work was cut short due to power outage so some of the work I could've done did not get done. But all of that in the next episode.
8x8 ARGO rebuild series full playlist:
• 8x8 ARGO Avenger REBUILD
This 8x8 ARGO sparked the homemade tracked amphibious vehicle build series a couple of years ago that you can watch here:
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Your workmanship is impeccable and a pleasure to watch. Thanks for sharing 👍.
Thanks for watching!
It is great to hear you actually talk in your videos again. Please bring back saying 'pretty good'.
I was thinking about squeezing one "Pretty good!" in somewhere but there is nothing good about this vehicle at the moment. 😀 But it's getting better and better slowly.
Great job on rebuilding the ARGO, moving right along and making repairs that sometimes are baffling but you figured them out. It's looking good Donn. Keep up the good work and keep having fun. Fred.
Thanks olddawg!
Apart from reaching a new low with your “baffled” joke, it has been a great build to follow along to as always. Keep them coming Donn.
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When he starts to whistle the titanic song I just lost it... So funny.
Those COULD be baffles for the muffler/s. But an edumacated guess would be more along the lines of spark arrestors. Helps keeps the sparks from the exhaust from setting the passing flora and fauna ablaze. 😁
Thanks Donny
Your fabrication skills are only exceeded by your language skills! Thanks for the videos! 👍👍
Each video feels like a continuing education for me. Thank you for sharing!
Thanks for watching!
Great video, thank you for sharing and I look forward to the next update! 🙂
I always like to watch one of your unique videos about...well...anything. It doesn't matter what you are working on, interesting ideas are flowing... Thumbs Up!
Thank you very much!
Fantastic work dude! It's a joy watching you work. Really good craftsmanship! This is the first YT series I'm actually longing for new episodes. Keep it up!
Turning rubbish into something useful is always enjoyable for me too.🙏👍
thanks for your entertaining videos
greetings from Germany
Thanks for watching!
Well done once again. I like your mini belt grinder
You're an inspiration.
That is my goal, I'm happy to inspire and motivate - two things I'm searching myself daily.
Dude, you need a vacuum bleeder for those brakes! So much easier than manually bleeding them. Strong work on the resto!
I try to spray rusty fasteners with penetrating oil ahead of time... broken fasteners ruin my day. Even just a few mins of soak makes a huge difference
it really isnt when ur bolt 4mm and half rusted anyways..... on big bolts it works, except heat is always better then oil
@@kiiiisu if you say so
Another great video,thank you for sharing, always a pleasure watch your project 👍👍👍👍
Thanks for watching!🙏👍
I swapped the twist grip for a thumb throttle from a quad bike. It felt much safer and easier to control
I had that in mind as well. Have to check it out if any store has one.
@@DonnDIYThey are available from several parts suppliers and super easy to find online!
You have come a long way from those early days, good on you ... all the best from Arkansas, USA!
this looks like a really fun project. I hope you keep up with the other DIY youtubers like grind hard plumbing and colin furze
Hard to keep up with those guys😬😀
Nice work! Always enjoy your vids 😁
Thank you, I appreciate it.👍
I love watching your videos their so relaxing to watch.
Will be ready just in time for muddy season. 👍🏻
Good job 👍👍👍Thank you for sharing. Be safe 🇨🇦
Impresionante su trabajo caballero, muchas gracias por compartirlo!.
I have the older version of this same machine. I would love it if you made a video of what you would change in the design & what you found to be really bad in the original Argo... it would be a great recap video.
I would definitely beef up the support frame.
@DonnDIY agreed. I want a skirt frame which supports to the main chassis so structure does not put weight on the plastic tub. Eventually I want a bail lifter frame to recover moose. My winch is made on a 2" receiver so I can mount front or rear. This year I have changed the winch mount so the unit swivels to the side & the pull it perpendicular to the spool. It allows me to better layer the line in use. I also want a simple mount on each of the rear corners.
Better frame, thicker, not just better construction. Chains would be enclosed in their own boxes flooded in oil to displace water ingress as much as possible (like old 1800's bicycles used to have - oil bath chain guard). Better brakes, and the plastic shells would be fully adhered in place with Sikaflex, marine grade glue. All the protruding bolts (aside from being stainless) would have (on the inside) a rubber washer which itself would receive Sikaflex and i'd use Nylocs, not regular nuts. I'd change all the running bearings to double row (expensive, but longer lasting), because the flex on the seals would be greatly reduced. Automatic greaser to all the major water ingress points. A cheap one would do just fine. I'd also add a structure that would replace everything above the frame that holds the running gear, and would tie the front, rear and center with braces where possible. The biggest issue with this is that it clearly flexes, cracks galore, because they cheaped out on construction. The upper frame could be made from the same kind of metal they used, but it would need to be complete front to back and have gussets. And i'd probably either upgrade the motor to at least 20% more power (to carry the extra weight better) or modify the original one if it could take the juice.
Last but not least, hydraulic brakes all round. Nothing expensive. Moped bits would do just fine. Cable on something like this is yet another sign of just how much they cheaped out.
It's a typical thing for companies to do. They call it "improvement", we call it bullsh!t. Like with washing machines being all cast iron and stainless steel and now they're mostly plastic.
Excellent.
buen trabajo
thank you ...
Glad you got a "grip" on the steering and braking. Looking good. Looks like your shop has been busy with all the swarf on the lathe.
I'm a "clean it once a year" type a guy... hated in the workforce around the world.🤣 But honestly - I've just been busy with other things but I'll get there.
Time to go fully off grid and add hydro & solar to the shop. You can get anywhere you need to in your completely renovated ATV!
Love it keep it up as always 💘
No need to sand those chain guide pads. Once the sideplates of the chain link wear a groove, the chain rollers run on the nylon pad quite well, and only little further wear results.
Nice work brother!
beau travail ! félicitation
Whistling the titanic song .. I caught that lol 🤣love your videos as always, cant wait for the next one in this series
Stay safe with what is getting close to your border!
Cheers mate.
Cracking video
Nagu ka varem olen öelnud, siis ütlen veelkord, et see masin saab parem kui uus. Minu poolt laik igaljuhul!
Suured tänud!
from the video, there is a feeling that you are restoring an extremely old rare device, which is at least two hundred years old ...
This is the most I have herd your voice.
Yes, sorry for that. I'll try to blabber less in the future.😀
Hello Donn good job
vidéo trop rare l'ami mais toujours intéressantes
Excellent ! 👍
Cheers!
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍!!!
Chain links.
The clips on the chain joiners have a very nasty habit of falling off and causing the chain to separate.
There is another type of joiner that is more permanent and much stronger.
You can even make it out of the clip type by simply using a normal bar salvaged from a chain link and then hammering the link ends over to match the rest of the chain.
I was afraid about the master links too. The locking clips will most probably fly away after chain tensioner blocks wear out and the sides of the chains start to touch the tensioner block. It'll most probably happen in reverse since the clip can come off only in that direction.
@@DonnDIY . From painful experience I can say they fall off when ever they want without help from anything and in any direction, especially if they’re over thirty seconds old.
After nearly dying when a new motorcycle chain came apart and locked the wheel I investigated better joiners.
You can buy the ones that you need to hammer over, but if you can’t get those you can use the clip type by using a salvaged link and then hammering the pins over. They do often just break in the process so you might go through a couple.
I would install an RPM governor which takes the output of the CVT as input. So you can set a speed you wanna travel and the governor adjusts the gas accordingly - like a cruise control. Speed can be selected by a leaver and the handle throttle is just an engage/disengage function, so you got basically a dead man switch :)
You have always clever ideas man!👍
@@DonnDIY if you wanna implement it, you may need to add a belt or some gears to speed up the output shaft RPM again to bring it within the RPM range the governor can deal with.
But I think it would be pretty beneficial to having not adjust the throttle all the time while bumping around in uneven terrain. Should also result in a smoother ride :)
It looked more like you are un-baffled 😂
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i would be so tempted to convert this to twin stick twin pedal configuration.
I like it alot
Cheers man!
The struggle is real.
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are you still hoping to expand the workshop to the rest of the old shed? I loved those building the workshop vids, think its been a while since then now haha 👍
I am constantly thinking about expanding but a completely new workshop built to spec would be the best. I'd like to restore the barn though.
Get yourself a load of cheap chopping boards from the market they are brilliant for making bushes and all sorts including chain tensioners
I'll keep that in mind!
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vidio yang sangat jelas❤❤❤❤
Great vid. What yr is this Argo? I have a 2009 8x8 Avenger 750ei. My front axle chain dont have any way to tighten them that I can see. Yours does have the tensioners. My front chains are loose. Do you know if mine should have the same as yours? Ive looked but cant seem to see a spot for tensioners to go.
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Gday mate
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I hope you didn't stop explaining stuff in English because someone complained about your English. It's totally fine, video interesting as always 👍👏
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Would it help if you plumbed a second air tank in line with the compressor you have ? Have a larger amount of air storage?
It definitely would!
You're far too young for dad jokes mate, but Im baffled was funny 😂
Another great video, thanks for the share
I'm a dad now so I'm allowed to make dad jokes. 😀
Pretty sure I've some of those chain pads knocking about , finding them in the shed may be a problem though 😂 .
That exhaust has just been an exhaust too long , they have a hard life.
Send'em my way! 😀 After you're able to find'em of course.😅
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Great build. I'm wondering if putting sealant on the upper frame fasteners might have been the right thing to do.
It might have, buy there's only splashing water on the wheel wells so I guess nothing will press in from there. There wasn't any signs of sealant when I took it apart as well.🤷♂️
Вподобайка.
What keeps the air tube from the blower off the drive chain...I could see how much clearance there was between the two.
There's more clearance than shows in the video. But it's zip tied to the radiator frame. 👍
Looks like you’re definitely on track to be on tracks soon. 😉
I’m guessing from one of your Instagram posts the part supplier never came through with the OE chain tensioner blocks.
Yup, 3 months already.
Looking good but I still prefer the older Argos with the two separate levers for steering
I built my own amphibious vehicle with two lever steering - one thing you couldn't do is to stand up and drive properly since you're dangling on the controls applying brakes uncontrollably. The handlebar gives you an anchor point where you can stabilize yourself when riding upright.👍
Is that thing old enough that the bolts etc are measured in freedom units (12ths) or is everything metric?
There's a mix of both metric and imperial.
Don't you love those sizes from outer space that are somewhere between Metric and Imperial? 🤣
I believe these were imperial. I have to get some basic imperial spanners and allen keys since I now have a machine that uses imperial hardware. 😅
I think you'll have better top end and boggy low end. That drive belt is a bit too deep in the secondary clutch shives. We shall see. 👍
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Я тоже так делаю😊
What type of 8 speed transmission does it have?
2 speed actually - high & low, 4 speed if you count reverse and neutral as well. 🤣
16:55 🤣
Time for an off grid power system me thinks 🤣🤪🔋
Yes! Absolutely!😀
remake the chain tensioners out of dry hard oak and soak them in motor oil
hello, tell me where do you buy spare parts for argo?
I ordered from an online shop. They ordered from Canada. So it's probably wise to just order straight from Canada.😀
@@DonnDIY but could not throw off the link to the site, there are many sites with intermediaries. thanks.
Bro, why don't you use your sandblaster for restoration?
I was touching the subject in the video too - I need a more powerful air compressor with air dryer for that.
UHMW, make your own…
Yup, getting there. 👍
I would expect the tensioner pointing downwards. So the chain doesn't continuously slide over it but there is only contact when it tries to come up
This is the chain in the front of the idle shafts, this means that the pulling effect takes place (when going forward) on the underside leaving the chain slack on the top. Thus the need for the tensioner on the top.
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amanda
I wonder if this can be converted to electric
Definitely!
@@DonnDIY that's cool, I've got a mind to start a project
Моё предложение поставить на привод что то типа ремня ГРМ
Why not use a snowmobile throttle ( thumb ) lol
I'm concern about that muffler, it looked like you half donkeyed that repair. At my age I like a QUIET ride, unless I'm driving Elenore, other wise I want quiet Harleys, cars, trucks, ATVs, and tractors. So if that Argo is loud, dont come by my house at 2am..........
I agree, I'll try it "as is" first and if needed I'll cut the muffler apart and add proper baffles to reduce the noise.
yeah!!!!! new video!!!!
Adalasyo
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Ток
If you did decide to carry a Moose, it would be better if it's dead..
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It would be good to activate the subtitles, help deaf people or with auditory deficiencies to follow your videos, in addition to being able to read them in other languages. Kind regards.
Good idea.
17:31 throwing a guess... imperial... 🤮
Yes, imperial. I should invest in imperial tools now that I have this Argo. 😀
@@DonnDIYHow did you get this far without imperial sockets, spanners and allen keys?! Apart from the engine, the entire vehicle is imperial.
Those Argo upper frames are rubbish.
I agree. Those could've been made way better from the factory.