BMW 6-Series DO NOT PRESS THAT SPORT BUTTON !!!
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- čas přidán 26. 11. 2020
- On the BMW E63 and E64 - and any BMW with the N62 Engine the Sport Button makes you drive like a prat!
It is much better to squeeze out the power using the Steptronic Gearbox using a method that I show here - go on, give it some welly!
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Haha! Brilliant! Great explanation of how not to use Sport mode and the right way to use Steptronic gear selection. I always thought Sport mode was purely for launch control purposes from a standing start. Something else which can make you look a right pillock lol! Thanks for this typically helpful and humorous instruction video 👍
Thanks, and good to hear from you!
Thanks, Tim. I honestly thought it was my ends rattling when I kick it in sports mode. Appreciate you explaining exactly what happens and the difference between the sport and Steptronic modes.
Glad it helped!
I do them both at the same time
This videos are so well done...cheers from sunny California
Thanks!
Fantastic video. Buying a 2010 650i on Monday and can’t wait. Thanks for the in depth lesson.
Just got one today, any issues with it?
Lovely jacket mate!!! Happily subscribed, I purchased an 08 550i little smoke from the exhaust, checked the PCV system and it definitely needed some cleaning!
Awesome, thank you!
Hi Timm thank you for another great video. From one of your biggest fans.
Glad you like them Alvin, and good to hear from you!
Never did like sport mode in my 645.
Now I know why.
Carry On.
Tim, very informative video. Will give it a go with my 2010 650. Have to say that watching you navigate through intersections and roundabouts gave me a bit of anxiety not being used to driving on the left side of the road. I wonder how long it would take me to get comfortable with driving in the UK. 😅
I do it the other way around and have driven in Europe and the US many times, you get used to it pretty quickly. And Thanks!
Tim, Excellent video! Thanks for your explanation. I already find out the E63 in sport mode is uncontrollable when driving corners in stead of my old E32 V12 before.
The Sport mode in the E32 was great - and the E31. Impossible to use on the E63/E64!
Thanks for your great & generous sharing
So nice of you!
It's interesting, like you would be talking about different car. in my case all is smooth while driving in Sport mode. Certainly not feeling any embarassment :-)
No strange kicking/clicking noises, no kicks or bunny hopping.
I got LCi model, maybe they improved that. The gearbox is newer and much faster anyway, that could be the big contributor to the problems you are describing?
Love this and the other video about using steptronic gear. Does all this apply to my 2007 E64 630ci with N52 engine?
Nice one Tim. I didn't realize the theory between the throttle body and Valvetronic till now. The Dynamic Drive on my X5 is too soft for spirited driving with Sport mode off. I think the Xdrive has a different personality in Sport mode than your 650i. If your acceleration to redline is inconsistant at full throttle may, check for a failed DISA servo in ISTA. One of the 2 Disa servos takes a higher load than the second servo and will eventually fail. The winding in the servo will fail causing high current draw(typically 1 amp at 12v on the bench) and set a fault in the DME.
Thanks Jason!
Same (just less) in my 630.. heavy steering, jerky/bunny hop throttle at slow town speeds.. Rarely use it, or the steptronic.. happy to waft 😊
Great point!
What about 650i smg? I have smg and cant really notice anything on sport mode? I notice the sport mode in the auto mode of smg but while on manual mode of smg i cant really tell difference?
Love your videos Tim,, a wealth of information that I wouldn't otherwise have found here in Australia where BMW's aren't as common as they are in the UK and particularly the six series. Just finding a good mechanic that won't either rip you off or just tell you to take it to the dealership is a nightmare. I have a 09 650i that I have a love-hate relationship with that means more towards love. I was under the impression that Hinder sports button increased throttle response so when I'm looking to get somewhere in a hurry I hit the sports button as well as drive it manually through the gears. Is that not the right way to go about things?
Thanks from the UK! The throttle mapping changes in Sports mode - I find it a lot easier just to press the throttle just a bit quicker!
Sport mode also kills grip on curves. Only one way acceleration needs it but I dont prefer sport mode for transmission. Good video)
Yes, I agree Ali, much better to squeeze out the power on damp corners!
Many thanks for your shared experience and expertise. How do you know all that staff? Are you a car dealer /mechanic?
Neither - And Thanks!
Cheers timm. I’ll give it a go in the ci.
Thanks Iain!
I have to say I totally agree with you! You can't balance the throttle atall in sport mode but the steering feels so much better with the extra weight. Do you think some one could code out the change to the throttle response??
Thanks Jake, if you give the car some welly in non-sport mode the steering tightens up anyway - give it a go!
@@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation will do. Thanks for the info. Much appreciated
Wiper rattle is quite embarassing too. Nice and informative video.
Tell me about it! I better break out the big adjustable I suppose!
Just one more question. Are you able to switch from Drive mode to the Steptronic gear selector while in motion? Again, I'm brand new to BMW. I've read the manual, but never saw this.
Yes, you can do just about anything (apart from sticking it in reverse or park) - it will not let you do anything damaging
Another good video,
My 750il also had wiper shudder, why is that?
It's down to the wiper angle to the glass - it should be 90 degrees and I guess mine isn't - there's a BMW tool to adjust the angle, but a big adjustable spanner does the trick!
Really useful!
Thanks!
Timm thanks for professional content, very usefull chanell!! Where can i ask you some questions about my 645i e63 2004 N62B44 245 kW?
The best place is Bimmerforums.co.uk
Hi there! Love the content. I have a 2004 E64 645ci.... on the first startup of the day it runs rough, revs drop up and down and it misfires. could you please do a video on this please?
Merry Christmas!
I really only do video's on problems that I have first-hand experience of - and I haven't suffered that yet! Bimmerforums.co.uk would be the best place to go.
Had that same problem with my 05 but a camshaft sensor was not plugged in
I recently bought a 650i and have yet to use the sport mode. I'm going to have to do a test like you did here.
Give it a go!
My e65 is throwing a code for POO24 camshaft timing over advanced....I’ve replaced the 4 sensors at the rear of the n62b44 engine...but would it be the solenoids in the front of engine that controls oil near the timing chain??
Change the timing chain tensioners (there are two on the N62) - when they fail the timing can advance too far - cheap but awkward on Bank 1
Never did like sports mode in my 645.
Now I know why 👍
btw I still have that sweetheart.
More permutations to come in the next episode!
Is there not four driving modes to choose from? I find that I like D for motorway and DS (but remain as automatic/knock it over but do not manually select gears) for when I'm in a hurry and B roads. Sport on its own is too binary; it's power delivery is either on/ off. While DS+Sport together is extremely fast and gives best straight line acceleration, but isn't as controllable as the DS is.
There's six modes! I'll cover them in my next video.....
nice vid but do you whack the kerb at 11:55 ....
Pity there's so much wet weather in the UK. You'd love the dry roads here in Australia - the 650i would go bananas!
My twin brother lives in Bunbury, mother in Australind and sister in Perth, I've been there a few times!
Great stuff. If you ever make it to Melbourne you’re welcone to take my 2006 650i E64 out for a drive!
does any of this apply to the 650i with SMG? I'm looking at buying one and I wasn't comfortable with my test drive but get the impression you need to adapt your driving to it.
No, gear changes should always be smooth!
Me to bro just give it lil more gas!! Takes getting use to but I live it now and get 22 mpg!!
I bought 650i smg and i fucking love it
Hey Tim,
You should reach out to xHP to see if they'll provide a copy of their TCU firmware for you to test.
It allows you to tweak the amount of torque in 1st gear so it only allows just enough torque at a stand still in 1st gear not to break traction.
It also enables launch control so you can bump the torque back to normal and dump it all onto the torque converter using your brake booster in the event you do feel like turning off traction control to look like an idiot.
what about kick-down? is it meant to that "high power for some second", it give full throlle and changer 1-2 gear lower
I hate Sport mode and kick-down!
my 1995 740iL even has sport mode! Haha. There's no button, you just shift it down into 4th gear and it puts it into sports mode, complete with a little "s" in the instrument cluster beneath the speedometer. i honestly can't tell if the steering changes; will have to check next time; but the engine doesn't shift until at least 3000 rpm's, 3500 or so if going up a hill. not bad for an almost 30 year old car! ... my favorite way to drive it is in "manual" mode. there IS a button for that.
No engine or suspension changes (unless you have SEDC) - and no extra engine power - just a change in the gearbox shift pattern - still, it's all good fun!
I have been a PRAT for the last month, but thanks to you, I will no longer be one. I've owned my 2007 650i for just 1 month. The American version of the 650i doesn't say SPORT on the button, it says BE COOL! I love the videos and for the next week, I'm going to call everyone a PRAT! I'm not sure about "Pillock"? Spelling unsure, but I also like that word too. Is Pillock worse than Prat?
While you are at it, try wassock, nincompoop and wally...
Mine does not work and i have found no advice in the internet
Do you have an idea? Thanks
Lift up the shifter surround and see if the button is actually plugged in as I show here: www.meeknet.co.uk/E64/BMW_E63_E64_Heated_Seat_Problems.htm
@@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation thank you, i will try it out!
Hahaha good patent 💪😎
Timm put the car in sport and the gearbox in D/S mode. Let me know how you get on. Also get the gearbox upgraded with the latest software. You'll thank me later pal.
I'll cover that in the next video!
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@Damien Dalton definitely, have been using kaldrostream for since december myself =)
Use sport mode and the gearbox over aswell - huge difference
My advise, get rid of of automatic gearbox, get manual 650i and use Sport button. That's the way to get most of that car :)
Nah, driven manual cars for all my driving life, that's all we had in the UK! Steptronic boxes are the way to go, manual control, but, you get a torque converter with all that torque multiplication - better acceleration from a standing start!
@@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation totally agree........never want to see a manual again, unless it's an e39m5
Jan nowakowski
Manuals are too rare, at least here ib germany! Ive been looking for a manual e38 for 2,5 years and a manual e63/64 since 2014
Very rare
So i bought an automatic e64
@@Krezo200 If you are interested in very well maintained 650i with manual gearbox, from the first owner, let me know here.
@@kennyboypl thank you very much but im from germany!
What about sport mode and a manual transmisson?
That mode just made it harder to control the throttle causing excessive loss of traction
@@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation I see. I watched the video in full. It's all about the engine mapping.
Nice content. Next video Idea: DSC button explained in full please :) (Partial DCS softmode vs Fully off etc)
That means more homework - but more on driving modes first!
@@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation Yes bud, all interesting content mate. More the better, but I will pester you each video if that's OK lol
Personally I use sports mode and have the gears over aswell, I much prefere the heavier steering as I feel
The car can feel a bit boat like, even though I have brand new shocks and lowering springs
I really don't like Sports mode - but the steering does stiffen up when you start throwing it around in any mode!
Why can't you use both? I have a 650i and drive it in manual with the sport mode enabled
Hi Salim, I’m like you I have a 650i and drive it in manual normally. When the roads get nice I turn on sports mode as it will stiffen my active anti roll bars.
I have a question for you. For some strange reason my car won’t let me downshift from 3rd to 2nd unless the revs drop below 3500rpm, this is annoying as I am used to driving manuals and using engine braking to slow the car down. Does your car let you shift down to second at a higher rpm?
@@mingway2205 Hi Ming, I can't say I've noticed that, usually when I'm driving in manual mode I'm driving too aggressively to check the RPM 😂 I go by the sound of the engine but I am pretty sure it lets me downshift so long as it doesn't end up at the red line. I'll double check when I drive it next and let you know if it's any different to what I've just said
That’s how you’re supposed to use sport mode. Both work together very well. All sport mode does is increase throttle response, steering is a bit more sensitive, combine that with DS manual shifting at higher rpm, crisper shifts makes for a fun time
Seems strange, why not use steptronic and sports mode?
All answered here Aidan: czcams.com/video/XeuNdD4tjJw/video.html
A lot of people don't realise but the sport button also makes the gear shifts noticeably quicker
Close ur eyes..... Paul Whitehouse drives a beema!
That's my twin brother!
the sport is fore lounching not driving 😉 and the tiptronic is just to fuck you're transmission up 😜 if you want to use tiptronic don t buy a automatic gear but a stick
I'm from a country that didn't see auto boxes until the 80's and I have driven manual gearboxes most of my life - Steptronic is so much better!
Steptronic is damaging the automatic gearbox? In which degree? I can think that it wears more but how much more?