Full On Aggression - MiG-15Bis War Thunder
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There it is, after me saying I can't fly MiG for over 3 years I finally sat down and tried to learn them. Here it is I guess omegalul.
The MiG-15Bis For russia, germany as well as the J-2 for china are all identical with the only difference being the J-2 getting a carrier spawn.
Fuel: Minimum
NR-23 Ammo: Air Targets
N-37D Ammo: Air Targets
Weaponry: S-21 Rockets
Convergence: 300 Meters
Vertical Targeting: Yes
Crew: Lvl 75 + expert
Outro: A.N.O. Vanish
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*Defyn whenever he sees an enemy* Oh there's a guy there... not too worried about him. *kills him immediately and proceeds to massacre the whole enemy team with 5 bullets and 2 seconds of fuel*
Defyn: ‘Proficient’
Also Defyn: hits 1km shot
@Salvatore Colt spam I seen this comment before on multiple videos
@@marekmazurek8459 they both promoting it
I can't believe my eyes. I have been waiting for so long.
Now wait another 3 years :)
Mig 17 when
@@Gl1tchman MiG-17 should follow mostly to the guide, except it probably can't turn as well as MiG-15 but gain more acceleration and top speed in exchange. All in all, a very capable energy fighter, and it's advisable to always bring more energy around you.
Since it's 9.0 right now, getting sucked into 9.3 or even 9.7 black hole is guaranteed. Expect to be a support fighter and help your team bully F11Fs, Harriers, A-4Es and A-7Ds
With advanced missiles at that tier, it's generally not a good idea to climb too way up at this meta.
Check DEFYN's Shenyang F-5 video, in there he will indicate a playstyle in Shenyang F-5 that can be used MiG-17(AS) itself. It can be a valuable lesson.
Well, sorry for making you write this guide, but it was just a joke, also I am pretty sure 17 turns very slightly better, has better roll and top speed, but 15 has better energy retention, still, hope someone else learns something from this.
I’ve waited!!!
0:13
damn the man has great aim
Trick is to just purposefully aim too far ahead of the target and just hold the trigger for a few seconds, will run into the shots
I was in a battle, flying the Vautour IIa IDF/AF, and we had 5 people on our team, and there was just ONE guy left on the enemy team, and he was flying a MiG-15 bis, and he won the match, he single handedly killed 5 people, he won a dogfight against 4 people, then he strafed someone on our airfield. Great job, you deserved that win. He was the best pilot I've ever seen.
Holy sh*t
Yoooo that was meeer
Bro my name is gyuiytfv
Addd meee
Bruh that is sooo memorable
I love how he says he hated the guns and tried to learn them, then makes a causal 1.3 kilometer shot and looks away
Badass 😆
The longer I play this plane the more impressive that shot becomes lol. I can't hit anything outside of 500m but luckily I can stay on anyone's 6 in this thing.
@@codydoss5788 Even a cancer rolling Sabre?
I remember one time I got a 1.2km pilot snipe on a Zero, but I was in the J22 with 4 13.2mms so it isn't really as impressive.
@@Xiphactinus i once got a 1.24km kill with 45mm yak-9
however it was a big bomber and the wing was hit
Defyn in a Mig? Has hell frozen over?
he dont like em? too cheesy?
I just found your channel a couple of weeks ago and I love it! Your ability to fly these planes is incredible, definitely helped me become a much better player!
7:28 that´s what i call a plane disintegration
rapid unscheduled disassembly
Finally a video of the MiG-15Bis!
That's New
Suggestion: can you do live commentary i just wanna see your reaction and word in panic situation and dogfight👍👍🙏🙏
Great video- as always!
Request: is it possible for you to so a video on air combat in ground RB? I find it WAY more difficult and struggle alot in that mode- a tips&tricks or kind of guideline video for ground RB air combat would be great- we all wan to be better pilots - in ALL plane modes 🤗
You know for me personally, I was using vertical targeting, one day I turned it off just because, and I found out it was holding me back. Im like 4 times better with its cannons now.
Think it mostly depends on how you aim your guns. Altho i've notices in the mig21s with the gsh 23s i prefer 500m vertical targeting. Helps me compensate for the bad placement of the gun and the bullet drop
What's vertical targeting?
@@biohazardindustrieswr697 Horizontal targeting but vertically
@@rudeelk7042 Thank you. You love has broken the curse and freed my soul. I'll never have to kill again
@@biohazardindustrieswr697 np bro ❤
Strange, I've been getting your videos recommended so consistently that I completely forgot to subscribe. Thanks for the reminder
Man your aiming is amazing😍😍😍
You're such a character lmao. The sarcasm about his left flap touched my soul 😂
I'd love to see more migs! Thanks.
I kinda wish we would get another mig alley event. Back in 2015 and 2016 this thing was the pinnacle of aviation in war thunder, it’s sadly past it’s prime fighting all these post Korea fighters.
Hey Defyn, I played lot of MiG 17AS and the MiG 9L after your sale video. Just wanted to say you have an awesome aim and that for some reason, the armor piercing belts are much better on the MiGs than the air targets one. If you landed those hits where you got crits, im pretty sure the shells wouldve taken their wings off. Do try them if you get a chance.
I just usually become a flying brick and don't get my guns on anything in the mig15bis. I think I learned how to no fall into this trap from your video tho, so I'm eager to try it now. Great gameplay!
This is so useful for someone like me who's just about to unlock it, thanks for the info
Same, it’s very, unique
Can we take a moment to appreciate his aiming skills
Between the sabres at 8.3 and mig 15 at 8.3, there has been some good games for the past few months when we get mainly sabre and mig games. Might be the best air combat gameplay available right now in war thunder. Sabre vs Mig is the most balanced jet gameplay for the most part excluding one or two models of later sabre that are a bit better than the Mig, both planes have slight advantages and disadvantages towards the other plane and it makes for great 1v1's, 2v2's, I even had a great long 2v3 battle the other day which last around 5 minutes of pure dogfighting.
I just can't believe how good your aim in this thing is :O. I could fly whole battle, making dozens of approaches and fire only when I'm 100% sure I will hit and...end a battle with no ammo and no hits on enemys xD. Mig-15 flight characteristics is just so good for me (except roll), but actually hitting your targets is the biggest issue in this plane :F
Right on time. Unlocked it after the video. I have bad aim, so it is going to be strugglebus...so Go big or go home will be my motto. Great video 2. Grtz from Belgium.
I'll be flying the German mig 15 first since I'm grinding the tree first on my new account so thank goodness for these mig vids
Loved the vid!
Breaking news : DEFYN enjoys broken plane
Wait. How is MiG-15Bis broken? I love that plane to bits! Even more than my Sabre!
@@Sunshrine2 8.3 that can shit at everything below 8.3, you can do whatever you want with your performance, nothing will even come close. Only threat would be Sabre (assuming it has energy over you, because acceleration of A-5 and F-25 are dog shit) or planes on uptier. But uptiers doesnt really happen because everything above gets soaked up into 9.7 battles and get clapped by Mig-19
@@southweststrangla9591 Well, MiG-15 vs F-86 Sabre is a totally fair fight. You just need to know the differences between axial flow and centrifugal flow engines. F-25 and later are completely on par with MiG-15Bis or even better when flown properly. A-5 is power hogged, but so is MiG-15 non bis. That is moreover slow as a potato.
Nonetheless, the other parts of your argument stand. 8.3 downtiered anywhere means a roflstomp for MiGs and Sabres making it unfun for any 7.3-8.0 jets.
@@Sunshrine2 Flown right they are on par, but at same time Mig is way more forgiving than them
@@southweststrangla9591 I feel that F-86 is more forgiving given it’s weaponry and agility at all speeds. “To fly it right” means to never drop below 700 kmph and you are fine.
MiGs weapons are a horror for a newbie.
I think this really boils down to personal preference.
So happy to see defyn using the s21’s
nice i needed this vid. my obismal .1 k/d ratio was begging me for some love
Nice. Wouldn't mind more Mig-15 footage :)
thank you for your videos
I find 20 minutes necessary in the mig-17 in uptiers because there isn't really anything most transonics can do against competently flown supersonics except fly defensively. It's not like 20 minutes or 7 minutes makes much of a difference regarding the energy and turn differences (except vs sabres), so you have to outlast most planes with afterburners
The Mig 15bis is the king of the spiral and energy trap.
i love these videos
He knows every freaking planes capabilities and weaknesses. Then makes it look sooo easy lol. Then I hop in the same planes and get wrecked haha. He’s freaking good
The Mig15 is such a hard plane to learn it’ll be awesome to someone skilled try it out.
I like your lower tier gameplay the best
EPIC Intro Not much of a problem anymore :))
This is a mega plane. I could watch mig 15 videos all day. Finally got it and have loved flying it
Is it worth it
Cause i am closer to the german variant
@@taxikleftis8842 same plane. It's a solid plane. Just understand that the guns take time to get used to.
@@blacktail522 is it exactly the same no difference at all?????
@@taxikleftis8842 same plane. Just a different flag on it
Hey man i was wondering if you could try out the Ki-96, I bought it back in like 2014 and i just started using it again and its pretty fun, its like a mini ki-83 but better for its tier
MiG15bis is my 2nd fav jet, my fav is the f25/30 :)) I have pretty much every aircraft in the game and I have the most fun in those two jets.
we call mig 15 Baba Yaga , love the video bra maube sabere next :D ?
I sucked at this plane for so long but once u really learn it it’s an absolute beast of a jet the guns pack a punch and the climb rate? Omg does it really help u in jet fights
Great video Defyn. My take away from this video is that you want to get people slow when flying the mig15, and it becomes a brick at high speed. Does this make it the zero of the jet age? Could you now make a vid from the side of the sabre please? I have no idea which sabre is best.
I got a head on gun kill in this. Then got cocky next few matches and stopped doing them shortly after. Love this plane. So brilliant and so frustrating. Need to stop climbing in a straight line as that's when I get picked off
mig15 is the plane I hate to love. Probably my most played plane, but I just cant kill anything with it and its a shame because I love how it looks.
so yea I'd love to see more mig15 video's
mig 17 is more beautiful )
It's funny coz the last matches is pretty much what happens when facing migs in the swift f7 except the rocket head ons would be kills
Mig time
Mig Time
Mig time
Man you make that plane look so easy
It may seem obvious but when you bank the plane stays banking, my set up as soon as the 'D' (roll right) is released the plane automatically levels out. I realise you use free look for situational awareness. It would make these terrific game montages even better if you had a 'for dummies' tutorials on all settings you use and tips for maneuvering, attacking and defensive measures explaining what you are doing with the keyboard and mouse to achieve such aerobatics.
Nothing wrong with more good content )))
Yeah, times changed. It's thing at 8.7 now, wich means you are against 9.3 every match, so you can't catch anyone. Also AIM-9J from harrier in full uptier is regular occurance.
You make me actually want to fly this thing (I always hated it)
One of my favorite jet
Once orange doom made me try 300 with vert targeting.. so it became only reason i still play this game :) not the best jet in game, but most fun indeed
now i want to see you play the mig17 (tech tree)
Defyn , which mig 15 should I play, is the regular 15 good at the new br.
very good player
Loved it. Would love to see more mig15.
We've been asking for variable fuel load sliders since they introduced such a system for tank rounds in 2016 : /
Interesting. When I played it I liked it way more than the following one, the german mig-19. I hate this plane at 9.7. Nearly everytime I get uptiered hard, see a sheer could of Phantoms followed by a rain of missiles.
I love the Mig-15bis/17 they play similarly but i they fly much better for me than any sabre.
Going 50-60% throttle is a legitimate thing you can do to not get strafed with 8mins by sitting at alt whilst still going 500-600+ can extend the fuel probably by 3-5mins and double it at the extreme
What would you say is the best jet to start with in WT to learn to jet fight? These one doesn't seem like it based on what you said.
I would love to see a J-2 video
I love the МИГ15
This is the most painful fucking plane to learn just because of the guns
Yes more with the german bis! Please
It's the exact same plane tho
@@DEFYN I heard that the german one it’s better but still awesome video man!
@@matiriko23 It is the same, you can apply all the things from this vid to the german one :)
DEFYN, you forgot the 1 V 1 arch nemesis of this plane...
The Canberra (I) Mk.6, god that thing turns on a dime...
In GFRB I got into it against a canberra with a Yak-3, I broke my flaps beforehand so it was just a stalemate until the game ended. Pretty surprising how good it turns
Making wide loops helps with them. The vertical is your friend against it
I'd very much like more mig footage
Can you do a CW21 but at a br of like 5.7 or something video
Is it just me, or since the patch dropped have there been lots of squads of MiG-15s rushing into the new BR range? I always get eaten up by them (mostly due to my aggressive stupidity), and I've seriously been considering grinding either the rest of the German, or Russian trees for this jet lol.
You can do a next video with mig 15
i m looking for this like african man for food,thank you soo much
Yes more mig 15 please
Mmooorrreeee bbbiiiisssss
Maybe you can do an update video? Ya know since it was pushed to 8.7 and now we will be facing different enemies?
nice
I had a simliar idea for my plane liveries, but now I don't want to steal the red wingtip idea ;-;
Might be why I do well in this plane
It allows you to be cocky
DEFYN, can you show us the game when you fly the stock plane cuz probably you spade all your planes with GE before recording so im wondering can you record for exapmle stock F86K, A-5 Sabre or anything at 8.0 and above?
I spade my planes normally for the most part
Stock gameplay doesn't give you much in terms of footage
It's a matter of just getting lucky and outplaying people that mess up
It becomes a opportunistic playstyle which is something I don't think makes for good footage especially since it's a stage of the plane that will not be a thing for very long
Ok, keep it up!
More old migs please
U make it seems easy
DEFYN pls do early MiG-21 to complete your MiGacy lul
(Hope you will enjoy the true principle of hit and run, and maybe have a hard time carrying a team on it)
su7 is a meme machine now. with 4 tiny ivans and 9.3 br it wrecks ass. finally. although i'm sure they're gonna "fix" it according to stats again lol.
I have found that once the MiG-15s are in a low speed furball, there biggest threat is a competent F-80, because I've absolutely stomped MiGs one after another in low speed turnfight
Dont think a good mig pilot would play on turn rate but would rather energy trap you. But good thing 80% of them dont know what they're doing. Free pickings most of the times
love my J-2
Flaps?? On a MiG? Heresy.
-From NFMG
I always use my flaps on every MiG except for the MiG-19 because the flaps actually make your turn rate worse at lower speeds and lower your AoA after the initial pull. All the other flaps on the MiGs will help you pull harder with your elevator.
@@kommandantkillcode NoFlapsMiGGang
How do you deal with f86 sabres? I got the mig nine the other day and I’m struggling as it is my first jet
Pray to the gods that's all one can do
War thunder models fuel weight right? As you burn it, you get faster?
You dont get faster but you turn better and retain energy better in a turn
Defyn, do you mind making a guide on the La-5 aircraft series, the La-5F in particular?
thank you for reading
Ive been flying them a little bit lately but its the FN
@@DEFYN that can do it too
Can anybody answer this question what is wrong with the mig 15 except the ammo
all that if you have full upgraded pilot but if not it really hard you always pass out
i woul like to see some corsair´s, a bit of the Us tree that cant climb or turn that well and see his magic on those, that would be nice
They climb as well or better than their US peers. And they turn better then most people realize they just don't retain speed in a turn.
@@josephbishop3231 now saying that they are bad, just not as good
@@fabioamaral1791 the corsairs are the only US naval aircraft that are actually good. If you were talking about the f6f's, f7f, f8f's then yeah i would agree they aren't nearly as good/competitive as the other US planes
he already has a few videos on corsair. TBH corsairs are those 'love it or hate it' planes, but also definitely one of the strongest competitors in the US tree
I would like to see a video on any rank 5 Chinese Jet, because other then the Shangyang F5, I can’t find any video on a rank 5 Chinese jet, so it would be nice if you would make a video on the Chinese F86 F30 or the F84G or maybe the H-5.
F-25 coming soon which is the same thing
@@DEFYN F25 saber?
Yes
I fly both 20 mins sabre and mig 15 and still do pretty well I'm more of a guy who playes out the kill rather then just doing it it's very fun whether I lose money or not
I’ve been enjoying the la-7 lately, should I talisman the la-7 and grind the skin or wait for the Dolgushin’s la-7 on steam?
to talisman your La-7 will be cheaper, but Dolgushin's La-7 has premium status, so you will earn more SL. The choice is yours
I got the german one and I feel like there is a curse on it. Every time I get a kill I die exactly 2 seconds later, every time
29th match I have in this jet, I got 6 kills on other jets, 561 ground kills, 3 free repairs left
I really hate the 23 and 37mms in these jets and I miss the 20mm shvaks
Ever since gaijin removed the 2 minutes until tickets drain when there's no planes left in enemy team, my RP gain has been cut completely since there's no time for me to kill ground targets anymore
I know it's late but I started 0-14 with it. I then went 35-2. Once you get the feel for it I'm sure you'll love it.