Recovery’s Long Tail and More (Talking Insomnia
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- čas přidán 3. 07. 2024
- In this episode of Talking Insomnia, Daniel and Brady dive deep into the intricate aspects of insomnia and recovery.
They discuss the nature of insomnia, how efforts to control sleep can perpetuate it, and the journey of overcoming sleep anxiety.
Brady shares his personal experiences and progress, inviting Daniel to shed light on a variety of questions related to sleep struggles, emotional management, and the broader implications of finding peace of mind.
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Not sure where to start on your path to sleeping well? Check out these playlists!
This is natto - the perfect place to start learning!
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Success stories - if you need hope and inspiration, this is for you.
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Insomnia insight - a list of every single episode.
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Talking insomnia - guests with trouble sleeping or experts share their stories / tips.
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Hypnic jerks, hypnic awareness and other common issues.
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Fatal insomnia - for those concerned about ffi and sfi.
• Familial and sporadic ...
Speed bumps - when you think you had a setback or “relapse.”
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Unrefreshing sleep - when you always feel tired or exhausted.
• Unrefreshing sleep
Momsomnia - if you’re a mom or becoming a mom.
• Momsomnia
Heard online - when you’ve worried about claims made about health problems and insomnia.
• Heard online
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I too had a return this year due to an incredibly stressful job. What I realised is I was always trying to control my sleep even when I thought I was better . I have a long way to go but I try carry on regardless now and have a good day
I appreciate this new twist/idea re: insomnia returning. This is me rn, brought on my an extremely stressful situation with my adult son. More like this please ❤
I understood your principle to resolve sleep issues by major trigger for migraine headaches is lack of sleep. I’d love to hear how you would deal with this. My migraines can be quite devastating and can last up to a week and nearly totally immobilize me.
The interesting thing is we don't really understand sleep in general. I wonder why can't sleep be replaced with something else? Like a supplement or dietary aspects.
What you said about the doctors is very very true. I visited all kinds of specialists and the diagnosis was always different
On experimentation, i guess the point we want to be at is live life regardless of whatever the nights may bring. Not letting insomnia rule your life, almost like not playing an opponent at chess. Play the game regardless of the outcome. Of course, you are playing yourself at chess 😊
Great answer!! Yes we need to stop playing the game
But how? I feel very tired and drained..barely functioning at work..
@@alankeni hi. Its not easy. I had a night with no sleep whatsoever last week after nights of sleep. I got up and said to myself that I would plan my day as I would if I had slept. I went on a long walk at 7am, which set the scene in a positive way for the rest of the day. I remember Daniel saying that its about the narrative we tell ourselves following a night of little/no sleep. I was conscious of how frustrated and disappointed I was feeling as morning approached and tried my best to allow myself to feel this but also be kind and remind myself to trust in the process and know my body will regulate itself. I had a very deep and long sleep the following night (which I know isn't a guarantee). Sorry, I know its awful when you are awake facing work the next day. I also remember Alina talking about the messages / thoughts our mind delivers during speedbumps, ie catastrophising thoughts and how being prepared to receive them, smile and acknowledge that its the minds way of running an automated programme in response to being awake, was also helpful. I still find befriending wakefulness uncomfortable but I'm certainly better than what I used to br, which I use as a positive reminder when I feel resistance to befriending wakefulness. I have in my mind what I'm going to watch on TV, should I need to get out of bed and visualise being calm, should this take place. Its a difficult journey (I've been struggling for approximately a year), but I've been implementing the sleep coach / fearless sleep principles for approximately 6-8months, however through education and listening to success stories (I'm currently on sebatical from both), I've tweaked my approach/responses. One example would be when I was lying in bed awake and then deciding to listen to music and realising I was using this as a subtle attempt to fall asleep). Its all a learning process but I absolutely appreciate the the feelings/ thoughts that come after a difficult night. Last point. I've also purchased and read radical acceptance by Tara Brach and The Untethered Soul by Michael Singer which have been really helpful not just on my insomnia journey but helping me in a much broader sense to understand myself and navigate and hopefully get the best out of my life (I'm 57). I hope this may provide some small crumb of comfort / hope. Take care
@@alankeni also, I've had many speedbumps that have involved little / no sleep and have gone to work the following day and it's not easy, so I do understand
Peaceful state of mind is the way forward.
Is it unreasonable for me to expect my sleep to return to exactly how it was before becoming an insomniac once I've "recovered". Or does insomnia leave a lot of people's sleep quality permanently scarred for life even if they get it to a manageable state? I heard that once your brain makes the connection that sleep = scary, it can never fully revert to how it used to be. Is this just a myth? And can everyone fully recover from insomnia and return to sleeping the same as they used to?
I've currently been plateaued for 7 weeks where I'm only just scraping 7 hours of bad quality sleep with 2-3 wakeups a night, and the hyperarousal is still there since I don't get as drowsy. I don't feel the best during the day and my eyes are usually red and droopy. I also have to adhere to my strict wake up time with no naps just to be able to get this amount of sleep daily. I'm trying to be as patient as possible though and not get frustrated with not seeing signs of improvement for such a long time.
Do you have any good advice/reassurance for me in this situation?
You sound way to obsessed believing things like that your obviously still researching alot Is not really a good sign reading things like that . Just let go man.
@@danh2310 i read that months ago, i dont research at all. Only watch these videos when i feel like it
@@danh2310 So it's a myth? And I will be able to sleep the same way that I used to do once I've recovered?
In time yes. I've had alot of satisfying sleeps on my recovery path. Never been more than 7.5 hours like I used to but that feels good as it's solid sleep. But I'm still getting the odd bad night. And still got some lingering residual fear like Daniel said it takes a long time to fade.
It's in the Declaration of Independence. I'm American, so I have no excuse not to know this lol :)
Haha that’s where it was from! Thanks 🙏
only downside of watching Daniel is that I get furious when someone drops Mathew Walker esque sleep fact 🤣
Those can make one quite upset! Did we do that in this episode?
@@thesleepcoachschool8192 no no what I mean is that when I get all this real information and somebody on internet drops Matthew Walker esque facts about sleep like socks on and all that just makes me furious lmao I don't know how can I recommend this channel to more people
@Ilson7 ooh yes totally agree! One day little by little we will get there 😊
I love the example of having a car crash and how we continue to have low level thoughts /emotions and how that fits with leaving insomnia struggles