Honda CB650R Vs Triumph Trident 660 | Best Middleweight Naked of 2022?

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  • čas přidán 30. 07. 2024
  • A Comprehensive Comparison & Specs showdown between the Honda CB650R and Triumph Trident 660.
    The sleek and minimalistic naked from Honda that is widely regarded as one of the best all rounders in the class, The CB650R. Up Against the stylish modern-classic from Triumph that’s garnered a lot of love in the last few years, the Trident 660. If you’re after a middleweight naked motorcycle that can do it all while looking the business, these two bikes will be some of your top choices and today, we’re putting them head to head.
    G’day how ya going, I’m kwackajack and welcome to another episode of the versus series. Today we’ll be putting the boy from Japan up against the Englishman to have an in depth comparison and find out just what the differences are between two quite similar bikes. We’ll be analysing the styling, claimed Engine & power specs, exhaust notes, Weight, Suspension & brakes, Fuel economy, features & price to see where they stack up and which comes out on top. But before we get started, please do me a huge favour and leave a like and hit subscribe if you’re new to the channel.
    NOTICE: This video is fair use under U.S. copyright law because it is transformative in nature, uses no more of the original than necessary and has no negative effect on the market for the original work.
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Komentáře • 134

  • @ThatCologneGuy
    @ThatCologneGuy Před rokem +5

    Thank you for actually giving your opinion and not saying "it depends on what you're looking for."

  • @be989
    @be989 Před 2 lety +32

    Yay! Great review sir! Went with the CB650R for these reasons:
    - I like the modern styling better, those headers are really nice to look at.
    - More aftermarket part support
    - Honda reliability
    - love the sound of an in line 4 with aftermarket pipes
    👍👍

    • @Kwackajack
      @Kwackajack  Před 2 lety +4

      Good choice! I have a note that this comparison was actually suggested by you!

    • @233kosta
      @233kosta Před rokem +2

      Even with the stock pipe, I still LOVE the sound of mine!

  • @stilldajoker
    @stilldajoker Před rokem +5

    have the '22 Trident. At 66 years old and 165 lbs. I chose this bike because of its all around performance. Had many bikes in my 50 years of street riding and altho I'm in good shape, this bike fits my abilities at this point in life and still can get me away from cagers when I call on it. Thank you for a great comparison.

  • @BOKPUAVIDEO
    @BOKPUAVIDEO Před 2 lety +5

    nice review i looking forward to buy any of this 2 bikes.. I first like the CB but the problem now is we are our of stock here in the PH just a while ago i visited the Triumph store and im very impress with this trident 660.. it is diff in personal. have a safe ride. thanks for the reviews

  • @AllboroLCD
    @AllboroLCD Před 2 lety +9

    I got the Trident mainly because it has the lowest price than every other 650 aside from the Suzuki SV650. Factor in all the modern amenities and you got yourself a steal! Its been a month and I'm still waiting for my quickshifter and USB charger install however.

  • @raysen623
    @raysen623 Před rokem +3

    Thank you for this nice comparing video that strenghten me again to choose Triumph. Although I love Honda look and design as well I prefer classic look...

  • @kennypool
    @kennypool Před 2 lety +5

    Good reviews, you're getting much better at this

    • @Kwackajack
      @Kwackajack  Před 2 lety

      I appreciate that! Let me know if there's anything else I can add or do to make them better :)

  • @Arvy111
    @Arvy111 Před rokem

    Great report. Hoping to own one of these once funds allow.

  • @Jay_Speed
    @Jay_Speed Před rokem +7

    My Trident uses for normal riding between 4,5L and 5L per 100km. The claimed 350km you don't get. I have the 81hp version here in Belgium. Here the Honda is more expensive.
    Update Juni 2023:
    Now I have more than 9000km and the engine is a bit more raw in feeling, just did a 700km drive where I passed thru Paris.
    It's good for both highway speeds up to 180km/h and city riding, Last year I did a trip of 1600km over back roads in Belgium and France in one week, no highway driving.

    • @Derpderpson123
      @Derpderpson123 Před rokem

      Tevreden met je Trident? Ben nog aan het twijfelen tussen de Trident, CB650r of een iets oudere Street Triple

    • @Jay_Speed
      @Jay_Speed Před rokem +1

      @@Derpderpson123 De Trident is OK, 7000km nu, lange trips met baggage geen probleem. Rek van Hepco & Becker geplaatst met Givi 40L bag en Givi tanktas perfect voor dat doel. Ook scherm van Puig en handkappen van Tiger 900.

    • @Jay_Speed
      @Jay_Speed Před rokem +1

      @@KeepCalmItsMeFanzy Ik ben wel tevreden, verbruik is goed en blok is zeer vlot in alle soorten verkeer en onder elke rijomstandigheid die ik al ben tegengekomen. Nog altijd eerste stel banden, minimaal olieverbruik tijdens inrijden, nog geen problemen gehad behalve nu na 18 maanden nieuwe accu. Is geen garantie, dat is maar 6 maand op verbruiksartikelen zoals remmen, ketting enz. Kan zijn dat het mijn probleem was, motors hebben drie maand stilgestaan tijdens verhuis naar Frankrijk. Over de dealer MTG in Stabroek ben ik wel tevreden, eerste onderhoud na inijperiode was niet goedkoop, tweede na een jaar was gewone prijs. Dealer hier in Tours is ook goed, moet nog verder ondervinden.

  • @dennisangelomarasigan2431
    @dennisangelomarasigan2431 Před 5 měsíci

    I like that the price mentioned covers various markets. It seems that it was not just converted from AUD to whatever the exchange rate is. Kudos.

  • @AsphaltSniffer
    @AsphaltSniffer Před 2 lety +25

    At my motorcycle lesson school, we use cb650r’s. As a complete beginner to riding the cb was quite scary bc of the amount of power it has. But now that i got used to it, I absolutely love it, it drives amazing and gives me a lot of confidence. Overall a great bike!

    • @kennypool
      @kennypool Před 2 lety +4

      I find that extremely hard to believe

    • @AsphaltSniffer
      @AsphaltSniffer Před 2 lety +1

      @@kennypool what do you find hard to believe?

    • @kennypool
      @kennypool Před 2 lety +5

      @@AsphaltSniffer Every motorcycle school uses 250cc bikes. And I've seen 16 year olds drop them all day long. Honda 650 no way

    • @AsphaltSniffer
      @AsphaltSniffer Před 2 lety +7

      @@kennypool im in the netherlands, the motorcycle you learn to ride on is based upon the level you can drive after you pass your tests. And obviously we all have dropped a motorcycle during the lessons, thats why theyre decked out with protective bars to protect the bike when dropped. No need to be so negative:)

    • @Cobalt1520
      @Cobalt1520 Před rokem +3

      @@kennypool How can you take lessons for the A license, then? If you can't drive a A motorcycle without an A license, how can you practice to ride the A motorcycles?

  • @brankog7
    @brankog7 Před 2 lety +4

    I hired a honda 650 for a week in Thailand and I must say it was a fantastic bike all round

  • @user-vo4jt2xj9n
    @user-vo4jt2xj9n Před 7 měsíci

    Hey thanks I appreciate the review very helpful. I’d love to see a Yamaha MT 7 VS a Suzuki GSX 750 or 8

  • @lateralus9244
    @lateralus9244 Před rokem +3

    I haven't ridden the Honda, but have the Triumph and it is a phenomenal 600 class motorcycle. I prefer the looks of the Silver Ice color in the Triumph over the Honda's looks.

  • @17losttrout
    @17losttrout Před rokem +3

    I can't believe that self cancelling indicators are a selling point - I had them on my RD250 air-cooled in 1977. They should be pretty much standard. To me it's like lauding an electric start.

  • @kidbuu1990
    @kidbuu1990 Před rokem +2

    I have yet to test ride either but my eye has been on the Triumph for some months now. I love it’s modern classic look, just comes off as more smooth. Thanks for the video.

  • @mullenli
    @mullenli Před rokem +1

    Both are a beautiful naked bike.
    But cb650R still my 1st choice.
    Thanks for the video

  • @uroskolosawidex4257
    @uroskolosawidex4257 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I haven't ridden the Trident... Got my licence on cb650 and I loved it.

  • @bfarm44
    @bfarm44 Před rokem +4

    In love with the new. Baja Orange Trident. I’ve owned and still own several Hondas and they are always super reliable and generally flawless but the sound of that triple and the massive move forward in Triumphs tech and build quality along with reliability I need a Triumph in the garage. Got to ride one and it was a blast but had a weird vibration through the bars that turned out to be the expansion nut for the bar end, one must have broken off during the build and they put another on without extracting the broken piece. My buddy was visibly upset with his new bike until he tapped on the bars and we heard it jingle. We had a good laugh after that.

  • @guypotter2301
    @guypotter2301 Před rokem +5

    My trident is b e a utiful to ride and I walk towards her with love in my eye, but before buying I was exceedingly tempted by the honda, thanks for the great review

    • @rishal4357
      @rishal4357 Před rokem +1

      Sitting on this fence right now😅
      Do you have fun?

    • @guypotter2301
      @guypotter2301 Před rokem +2

      @@rishal4357 I haven't riden the cbr, I have riden other four cylinders, but the trident triple it soon smooth, with the low torque of a twin, and the smooth ride of a four. I love my trident, for a middleweight, I think it's the best bike available, plus I have a decat and quickshifter, it's awesome.

    • @nerychristian
      @nerychristian Před rokem +1

      @@guypotter2301 I love my Trident too. It looks so beautiful in person. And it gets looks wherever I go. The throttle feels really smooth and the power is very manageable. The Honda is also nice looking. And I am sure it is very reliable. That's the one thing I am not sure about. This is my first Triumph, so I don't know how reliable it will be a couple years from now.

    • @rishal4357
      @rishal4357 Před rokem +1

      Just got my Trident guys, I must say I liked Honda's 4 cylinder engine more, for fun and sound.
      But as a beginner Trident is easier to control. Also, looks! I barely have it for a day and people already stop and stare😂

    • @guypotter2301
      @guypotter2301 Před rokem

      @@rishal4357 ride safe bro

  • @cuttsick8333
    @cuttsick8333 Před 2 lety +2

    The trident is an all new bike... the cb has been around a few years now. I would expect it to have a few more bells and whistles.
    Phone conectivity not high on my list of needs but different stroke for different folks

  • @Bikergramp57
    @Bikergramp57 Před rokem +3

    Excellent video. Thank you! I already have my bagger so am looking for a smaller, simply fun bike. I will be going with the Honda due to the historically proven reliability and low maintenance. Seems like Hondas just last forever.

    • @user-tm9ho3bm4v
      @user-tm9ho3bm4v Před rokem +4

      I know someone with a cb400 with 150k on the clock and the bike rides like it rolled out of the factory yesterday.

  • @alejandrocotilla2899
    @alejandrocotilla2899 Před měsícem

    Here in the US the Honda is about $1000 more base price. Interesting how in AU is less, crazy how all that works.
    Great video 👍

  • @lateralus9244
    @lateralus9244 Před rokem +8

    Hands down, the Trident 🔱. It's a super fun bike to ride, really enjoyable. Even through the breakin period.

  • @hast42
    @hast42 Před 9 měsíci +1

    CB650R & the XSR900 have that cafe racer look which i absolutely adore, i particularly like the CB because of the inline 4, more power & overall very well made

    • @yosefm170
      @yosefm170 Před 7 měsíci +1

      xsr900 is alot more powerful then cb650

  • @papasak21
    @papasak21 Před rokem

    good video, true all said.. Both are very good. Looks is subjective. I just had test drive with both. In my opinion CB is winning because of the engine power and because it is heavier, which makes it more stable and nailed on the road. The Trident is quite good but feels more like a toy compared to the CB.

  • @fighterrr1211
    @fighterrr1211 Před 10 měsíci

    Big thanks for including Indian price too. ❤

  • @robw7676
    @robw7676 Před rokem +3

    Having split the naked bike offering into factory Streetfighters and Retros, we've gone full circle and everyone is reinventing the Ducati Monster.

  • @prrsd4046
    @prrsd4046 Před 2 měsíci

    Got my Trident in November. Love it. Looked at the MT-07 and Kawasaki 650. Recently saw the Suzuki GSX-8R, WOW. My second choice.

  • @superduper9357
    @superduper9357 Před rokem +4

    I'll be ordering my Trident at the of the year.

  • @butchbbg
    @butchbbg Před 5 měsíci

    I like the both but one thing I cannot accept Trident is its plastic tank cover. I need metal tank for naked bike. So I’m getting CB the next month.

  • @raymorris952
    @raymorris952 Před rokem +1

    The Trident is a great bike, my only complaint would be the suspension, for next year they should put better suspension on it, even if it cost a little more, It will need a little upgrade because Honda have the all new Hornet for 2023

  • @rishal4357
    @rishal4357 Před rokem +5

    Okay so these two are really similar!
    I'm choosing between the two and test driving only made matters more complicated... My heart belongs to the dynamic Honda and its purr, but Trident is such a stunner and easier to control (I'm 175cm and a beginner)
    This video didn't make it easier to make the choice 😂
    PS I'm in Austria (beer, not kangaroos) and Trident is cheaper

    • @Wleez
      @Wleez Před 5 měsíci

      Welches bike hast du jetzt gekauft? Bin ca gleich gross und auch noch ein neuling. Momentan neige ich zum Triumph trident.

    • @rishal4357
      @rishal4357 Před 5 měsíci

      @@Wleez die Trident. Bin nach der ersten Saison noch zufrieden 👍

  • @urs6onfuturas975
    @urs6onfuturas975 Před rokem

    New here. Have been out of the motorcycle game for a while. Is the z650rs any decent compared to these two?

    • @guypotter2301
      @guypotter2301 Před rokem

      I find the kawasaki twin a little vibby, but a good bike, for a middleweight I'd always recommend the smooth but torquey trident or tiger sport

  • @R-Tap
    @R-Tap Před rokem +1

    I'm looking to buy my 1st serious bike, Ducati's aside the Triumph is starting to be very, very desirable.

  • @Chris.E.
    @Chris.E. Před 3 měsíci

    How tall is the rider in this video? I want the Trident but I'm 6'2" and it seems small. Beautiful bike though.

  • @17losttrout
    @17losttrout Před 2 lety

    BSA GoldStar v RE Interceptor on a track, please.

  • @dgw1970
    @dgw1970 Před rokem +2

    Triumph every time. In fact I have one.

  • @javiervar494
    @javiervar494 Před rokem +1

    Good review 👍 I agree you, CB is a good machine, but Trident is my better option

  • @briankern4233
    @briankern4233 Před rokem +2

    Pretty sure you have the weights wrong. Triumph gives dry weight and thus their weights should be pretty similar.

  • @stanleyblazeraznik6047
    @stanleyblazeraznik6047 Před rokem +2

    I watched this video as an owner of a loaded up 2022 Triumph Trident 660. Quickshifter and all the bells and whistles. I have had the bike for 1.5 years here in the USA and I find it boring. Not enough low end torque and not enough top end. Even if I rail on it through the Quickshifter it is fun but still lacks power. I am thinking of replacing her with either a four cylinder Honda or Kawasaki. The Ninja ZX-4R is the bike I really want if it comes to the USA. A screaming 4 cylinder is what I need ! I liked the video you did on the ZX-4R. I will let you know if I order one.

    • @nerychristian
      @nerychristian Před rokem +1

      Have you tried getting the DNK Tune? It's supposed to make the Trident faster.

    • @vegaspony
      @vegaspony Před rokem +2

      the trident doesn't have enough power so you want to get a smaller bike with even less power?

    • @stanleyblazeraznik6047
      @stanleyblazeraznik6047 Před rokem

      @@vegaspony Now that the specs are out the Ninja is not an option. I pre-ordered a ST Moto 2 edition.

    • @nerychristian
      @nerychristian Před rokem +1

      I think the Trident has plenty of torque. It's not a racing bike. So I'm not expecting it to be the fastest bike out there. But it serves my needs perfectly. It's the perfect commuter bike. I ride it to work everyday. And it always puts a smile on my face. It's one of the smoothest bikes I have ever owned.

  • @ruahinesrider
    @ruahinesrider Před rokem

    LAMS Trident in NZ 🇳🇿 is 53hp & 59Nm not like A2 in UK which is 47hp.

  • @kennypool
    @kennypool Před 2 lety +4

    I sold my Honda 650 because it was just to fast for my area. Lots of pensioners pulling on on you , and if you're going faster that 50 it's night night termite. Got a 750 Shadow cruiser now much safer , aka slower

    • @REN-zh2wd
      @REN-zh2wd Před 2 lety +2

      Mate I think we would all feel a lot more safer knowing that you picked a Rebel 300 and are riding around safe. we would all hate to hear that you had an accident because the power of the 750 got away from you so please ride safe and keep it under half throttle

    • @kennypool
      @kennypool Před 2 lety

      @@REN-zh2wd I've only been riding for 50 years so punks like you and your snide comments only make me laugh.

  • @schwartzy65
    @schwartzy65 Před rokem +2

    Interesting that trident is more expensive there since atleast in finland it costs around 10400€ vs honda around 12500€

    • @agustinrueda3241
      @agustinrueda3241 Před rokem

      Italia. Trident €8000 Cb650r €8300

    • @agustinrueda3241
      @agustinrueda3241 Před rokem

      Can i ask you how much is the lowest monthpayment at Finlandia? To compare..

  • @olliereed4206
    @olliereed4206 Před rokem +1

    The 650R is about to be replaced by a 270 degree parallel twin. The key feature of these bikes is they are different. I am so bored of 270 firing order parallel twins Everyone makes them but nobody has beaten Yamaha cp02 for character and fun. Triumph wins after they put this Honda to pasture. Triumph should go back to 360 firing order for their twins It is the ‘Triumph’ sound.

  • @cecilotto504
    @cecilotto504 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Which one will stay out of the repair shop the longest 💁🏾‍♂️

  • @rpuneeth4014
    @rpuneeth4014 Před 2 lety +2

    Here in my place…. Both are priced equally…. So please suggest me an good option….

  • @user-ix5ht6ux8u
    @user-ix5ht6ux8u Před 5 měsíci

    Trident in the USA is cheaper around 8.5k compared to the 9.3k for the cb650r

  • @krzysztofb2562
    @krzysztofb2562 Před měsícem

    Obydwa motocykle są fajne ale Triumph jest wygodniejszy i ma niesamowity 3cylindrowy silnik 😍

  • @AlexLopez-yk8xo
    @AlexLopez-yk8xo Před 11 měsíci

    I like trident 660 it's lighter considering more mileage than cb650. Trident has ride by wire feature for long ride.

  • @superduper9357
    @superduper9357 Před rokem +1

    The Trident is cheaper here in the UK.

  • @colinwoolsey5065
    @colinwoolsey5065 Před 2 lety +1

    I reckon the Trumpy

  • @REN-zh2wd
    @REN-zh2wd Před 2 lety +1

    I find it funny that Honda is selling a cbr600rr for nearly 30000 yet a Yamaha R1 is about 29000 starting to price yourself out of the competition hey Honda

  • @cubsinfive
    @cubsinfive Před měsícem

    Trident wins! Hands down!

  • @ghassanyoussef-cp5lg
    @ghassanyoussef-cp5lg Před rokem +1

    Triumph

  • @youngsimba438
    @youngsimba438 Před rokem

    Honda cb650r

  • @arrpee7468
    @arrpee7468 Před 2 lety +1

    First

  • @LOL-pw5xq
    @LOL-pw5xq Před 2 lety +1

    There’s no way a full tank can give trident 217 miles.. max 160 LOL

    • @Decoda3D
      @Decoda3D Před 2 lety

      How are yall riding 😭

    • @pocketlint82
      @pocketlint82 Před rokem

      For real. I get about 160 and that is during break in period riding conservative. 217 miles must be riding at 10 mph everywhere

  • @JalRiderMandy
    @JalRiderMandy Před 2 lety

    Bro ground clearance comparison

    • @DreyDope
      @DreyDope Před rokem

      3mm difference favoring cb650r

  • @santinoshariffe2720
    @santinoshariffe2720 Před rokem

    Triumph is more expensive, harder parts to find in my country. And well its a Honda

  • @nfol6420
    @nfol6420 Před rokem

    The 2023 cb750 is the best of the 3 for your money

  • @mike1967sam
    @mike1967sam Před rokem

    The Honda does not put out 93.8 HP. Where do you get this nonsense. Honda claims it puts out 70 Kw or 95 HP this is what Honda claims, but if you're just going to throw out numbers put the bike on a fucking Dyno and see what it really puts out to the rear wheel.

  • @canaanitetv
    @canaanitetv Před rokem

    Trident chip in throttle no good

    • @rbattson7171
      @rbattson7171 Před rokem +1

      Throttle is fine, I,ve had no issues.

  • @yanierolivera4678
    @yanierolivera4678 Před 2 měsíci

    The brakes are NOT better in the trident…Rethink that for a second…

  • @kattarhindu451
    @kattarhindu451 Před rokem

    Hold on, the English're not the only men around. You need to quit calling the Japanese as boys.

  • @russskidmore6893
    @russskidmore6893 Před 2 lety +2

    I pretty much wont be buying either of these cause I cant fit on bikes with millimeters. Also they seemed to be designed to ride on the wrong side of the fucking road for some reason.

    • @lilynorthover8378
      @lilynorthover8378 Před rokem

      😂

    • @robw7676
      @robw7676 Před rokem +2

      Sir, the bike you need is called a Harley Davidson

    • @nerychristian
      @nerychristian Před rokem +1

      I'd rather ride a Japanese bike any time. Harley's are so unreliable and not as maneuverable.

  • @warp3725
    @warp3725 Před rokem +1

    Honda is bland