@@doyleshafer hi Doyle 👋 not mad - my advice came across wrong - not my intention. All in all if you’re happy with it that what matters. Side question: did you consider JTR over Perlisen? Or you chose latter because you had them in you living space in the first place? Total overkill probably but I sense you would like it 😁
Yeah that came across the wrong way! But yes I considered many brands. Ray is much more sensible...until he plays Flight of the Pheonix and your ears pressurize. It's fun 😁
Awesome to see this video and for Chris to be out and about again doing these tours. So many cool setups in the area. That aside, I've been to this man's home before. He's an exceptional person who shares his passion for the hobby with others. I can't wait to get back and hear the new subs. I am sure it is just epic.
Love the theater!!! Definitely a SNewbie themed show. Something tells me in a few years, there will be more subs later. I have to get into this one to experience it. The fact we didn't get to your rack tells me the subs steal the show. The most simple and easiest upgrade is going to the LS12000 from the 6050. Its a HUGE upgrade, and for cheap. Sell that 6050 while it still has some value. 2k more you have your LS12000.The JVC NZ line of projectors are on sale now that they are about to go into a new model. Maybe waiting until they come out and jumping on that wagon if you have a LOT of cash. If you guys get a Houston-Wave tour, I would sign up for this one for sure!
It’s amazing! Still bummed I had to give up my spot for bass brings us together. Just started working again so hopefully I can try to make MWave and see you there. But yes u should come on down to Houston sometime. Imad room is always a good time. I think we are doing another listening sesh this weekend to try some things out.
Wow crazy setup! It's almost like the room has become a sealed subwoofer itself. So much capacity in a small space I guess the whole room shakes when playing loud. Anyway nice one.
Those subs are WILD!! How come no mention of Mike M. who built them? I was wondering why those near field subs looked familiar. 😅 he has those in his HT with 6 15". AWESOME JOB MIKE!!! 💪🔥
I don't understand some people thinking. That's way too much bass for a small room, it looks cluttered. You must really have a loving and understanding wife.
Great Setup! I’m curious about the JTR subs compared to the SI. I’m running a bunch of SI subs also. It’s a mix of their drivers. I’m super happy with them but have wondered how they compare to the JTR.
The JTR subs I drive have no bottom. Clean bass that makes you give before they do. I too would like to hear both in the same room to compare. Wonder when JTR will start putting out dual 24s?
I absolutely love JTRs and I have had many of them in my room. However a 24 is a 24! These are also sealed and the Cap I had in here was ported and it was blast. For my room sealed are a better choice. There is ton of ULF but cleaner and the room is not moaning and groaning as much. I bet I could have 4 RS2s in here as well and would love them but would cost me more than double what these did. Plus I am covering the entire bandwidth with those NSWs
@@Rayman-expertsoundpro Interesting. Very similar experience. I was running 4 ported SI HST-18s, and then recently switched to all sealed. Two dual-sealed 18's and two sealed 24s. I am liking the sealed subs a lot. It's definitely perceived as a cleaner sound, and no more port chuffing. The 24's are definitely impressive, but wasn't as big of a difference as when I got my first two SI HST-18s in. That was a religious experience.
For clarification, the HDFury devices, including the Vertex 2, do not do actual Tone Mapping. They can enable LLDV and allow some parameters to be set that can be beneficial to projectors.
From HD Fury: the HD Fury Vertex2 does offer tone mapping capabilities. Tone mapping is a process used in High Dynamic Range (HDR) video to adjust the luminance and color of images to match the characteristics of a display device. This is particularly important when playing HDR content on displays that do not support HDR natively. The Vertex2 is equipped with advanced video processing features, including tone mapping, which allows it to adjust HDR content to be displayed on non-HDR displays while preserving the dynamic range and color accuracy as much as possible. This ensures that HDR content can still be enjoyed on SDR (Standard Dynamic Range) displays without loss of detail or color fidelity. If that is the only thing you picked out in the video as notable then think we missed the point...lol
@@Rayman-expertsoundpro Your lol is simply unwarranted, clarifying the use of a product in a video has nothing to do with missing the point of the video, it's an excellent HT audio system and I did not imply otherwise.
I like bass, I like feeling it. This is over the top for me. I have 2 - 12" Klipsch subs in a 16 x 16 room ( 5.2.2 with all Klipsch speakers ) and that is plenty. Looks impressive though and a lot of money spent. Maybe in a few years I will get a 7.2.4 receiver.
For many enthusiasts it's about extension down into the single digits, free from distortions, etc. A quadrupling of cone/stroke is required for every octave downward to maintain the same output. So the max your two 12"s can do at 40hz, would require (32) 12"s down at 10hz! The requirements add up fast.
@@FOH3663 I used to compete in Crank it ups back in the day, even with a Sony ES cd player ( late 80's ) and a spectrum analyzer, music didn't go down much lower than 20-25 hz. What source material goes down to 10hz ?
@@batsonelectronics Very cool. I participated in one car audio competition in the early 80's. It wasn't a crank it up contest, I guess it was a linearity test. They placed a small tripod mounted test mic, and played a test signal ... measuring FR uniformity. I didn't win but I received a dot matrix printed paper readout if my freq response! It was a '76 Chevette, Alpine head end, 5" door mids, dash mounted Alpine dome/ribbon two-way tweets, supplemented by a dual voice coil 10" sub from SpeakerLab (in a sealed/quasi IB alignment). Powered by Alpine and Linear Power. Alphasonik active crossover. Regarding 10hz and below content; soundtracks special effects go as low as 3hz-4hz (War of the Worlds, Blackhawk Down, How to Train Your Dragon, a few examples). Of course in music you don't encounter it much, but spectrals on some material show its there. Synths, and perhaps the leading edge plosive of kick drum hit. Tchaikovsky's 1812 Overture, the cannon blasts possess single digit energy (Telarc version used 105mm Howitzers from the US Military). Before CD, there was few turntables that could track the 7hz blasts ... the tonearm would just fly out of the groove!
Nice. However, such a measurement needs; - frequency - distance - environment (ie., ground plane outdoors, indoors 3k cubic feet room, etc.) For example; 120dB at 10hz is only about 20dB above audibility. Whereas 120dB at 3khz at the listening postion, will be painful!
I would be very distracted by those speakers around the screen, wonderful sound, but those speakers attract more attention than the image. Hide the speakers behind the screen.
can't go any wider, its a 120 inch on a 144 wall with bass and traps speakers in corners. AT would force me to give up one row of seating which I am not willing to do.
Funny in a real theater you don't see a bunch of speakers 🤦 you buy that much shyt you might as well go all in and think it out better and put them in the ceiling
Those speakers are bordering on commercial concert units. There's absolutely no reason for a home 24" subwoofer. Let alone that many. The problem is that big electronic companies no longer play in this space, so you have to go one man business JTR etc. Also angling your speakers is not necessary if you calibrate your sound correctly. It's not about bass. I aim for the best music configuration first, and if you get music right, you don't need to do anything for movies. What I'm hearing there even from here is an after market car audio sounding system with no bass clarity
Wow, this post reeks of arrogance. 2 channel systems and theater setups have completely different goals. - No reason for a 24? One. Home owner. He is emulating a popular theater in Wisconsin's sound signature. If that is his goal, he is very close. - There are many subwoofer superstars out there like JTR, the delineations are pre-built configurations, vs flat packs and who pairs which crossovers and amps. - Angled speakers aren't necessary in a calibrated 2 channel system, with a small listening area. A theater attempting to get full range without hotspots in all seats in a short space may be needed. - Music configuration and movies are miles apart when dealing with multi zoned systems. - If you think for a SECOND, that this bass response resembles a car audio sounding system with no bass clarity, you have no idea what advances a responsive, tight driver with good calibration can do. I have 6 x 18's and my bass is razer sharp, filling the entire space instantly. Does one have to address the residual patterns that can add up quickly? Of course. Did you see the room treatments here to adequately accommodate this? Doesn't seem like you did. The speaker recording this was simply overwhelmed, leaving you to think incorrect conclusions. Lets tame the 2 channel bias a tad. If he wanted one, he would have built it.
You are missing a few data points here. First a mic on a phone will never be able to pic up the bass and its distorting badly, second you have no idea on the dispersion patterns of the JTRs, third you don't seem to understand the concept of headroom and what that does to sound quality.....you are certainly entitled to your opinion but you lack the information to make definitive and conclusive statements such as yours.
@@tkcdac Movies have sound tracks in them buddy. A Soundtrack is usually a song. If you calibrate for music you get a better accurate movie and TV audio experience. Throwing giant subwoofers at your lack of calibration knowledge only creates a mess akin to an aftermarket car audio system
@@Rayman-expertsoundpro Who said i watched it on a phone? Regardless, that sounded like a straining speaker and yes that who come through a phone speaker as well
JTR does fantastic work.
Glad you’re spending time on the acoustics.
That’s what I call a proper equipment for home theater space. Wouldn’t put it in a living room but those speakers are absolute performance monsters.
Bro you still mad?! >_< God bless you. This room is a real treat.
@@doyleshafer hi Doyle 👋 not mad - my advice came across wrong - not my intention. All in all if you’re happy with it that what matters.
Side question: did you consider JTR over Perlisen? Or you chose latter because you had them in you living space in the first place? Total overkill probably but I sense you would like it 😁
Yeah that came across the wrong way! But yes I considered many brands. Ray is much more sensible...until he plays Flight of the Pheonix and your ears pressurize. It's fun 😁
Awesome to see this video and for Chris to be out and about again doing these tours. So many cool setups in the area. That aside, I've been to this man's home before. He's an exceptional person who shares his passion for the hobby with others. I can't wait to get back and hear the new subs. I am sure it is just epic.
Likewise my friend. I can't wait for your room to be completed as well. Sounds very promising. You are welcome anytime
Whoa what a bone 🦴 shaker 💪🏼
System wicked 👏🏼👍🏼👊🏼✊🏼
Thank you guy’s for the demo and info 🏴🇬🇧
Love the theater!!! Definitely a SNewbie themed show. Something tells me in a few years, there will be more subs later. I have to get into this one to experience it. The fact we didn't get to your rack tells me the subs steal the show.
The most simple and easiest upgrade is going to the LS12000 from the 6050. Its a HUGE upgrade, and for cheap. Sell that 6050 while it still has some value. 2k more you have your LS12000.The JVC NZ line of projectors are on sale now that they are about to go into a new model. Maybe waiting until they come out and jumping on that wagon if you have a LOT of cash.
If you guys get a Houston-Wave tour, I would sign up for this one for sure!
I built all those sub boxes for him😀😀
You've gone National and mainstream now!
We thank you for your contribution 🙏 I remember when he was describing the custom build and I couldn't quite picture it but, you did a solid job.
No way. Thats cool
Fantastic work as usual, Mike!!!
Mike's cabs are dead silent and he went overboard with bracing and definitely with these bad boys! Plus he is one of the nicest dudes you will meet.
Looks like a good time! Nice room brother I will be making my way down there sometime for some demos for sure 👍 🔊🔊
It’s amazing! Still bummed I had to give up my spot for bass brings us together. Just started working again so hopefully I can try to make MWave and see you there. But yes u should come on down to Houston sometime. Imad room is always a good time. I think we are doing another listening sesh this weekend to try some things out.
You are welcome anytime brother! See u at Mwave
Love this room. Insane stuff.
That is some incredible stuff!
Just got my Stereo Integrity 24’ yesterday 😍
insane setup
"And then I became a member of the AVS Forum. . . . Now my wallet is empty, my eardrums are ruptured, and I'm blissfully happy."
Wow crazy setup!
It's almost like the room has become a sealed subwoofer itself. So much capacity in a small space I guess the whole room shakes when playing loud.
Anyway nice one.
Looks great
Just say no to the AVS forum kids 😅
Lol PREACH
lol love the laugh there when he said a single svs😅
Where did he get the rounded reflective acoustic panels? Think I'm interested in learning more about those. Thx.
The black ones that are also above the MLP Eric?
@@Rayman-expertsoundpro That youtube site no longer exists. Is there a web-site for those semi-circle black diffusers?
hi great room. which is the brand and model of subwoofers, the two big one
Stereo integrity
Sql 15s are one of the best sub drivers ive had
Those subs are WILD!! How come no mention of Mike M. who built them? I was wondering why those near field subs looked familiar. 😅 he has those in his HT with 6 15". AWESOME JOB MIKE!!! 💪🔥
This guy isn't screwing around
Your set up is a monster HT, just wonder how you do with the possible ear damage for those people seating in the first row
I don't understand some people thinking. That's way too much bass for a small room, it looks cluttered. You must really have a loving and understanding wife.
Throw some velvet on top of those speakers, stat! Jealous of that JTR setup.
What ur takes on benq 4550i projector
Dont have experience with it.
Great Setup! I’m curious about the JTR subs compared to the SI. I’m running a bunch of SI subs also. It’s a mix of their drivers. I’m super happy with them but have wondered how they compare to the JTR.
The JTR subs I drive have no bottom. Clean bass that makes you give before they do. I too would like to hear both in the same room to compare. Wonder when JTR will start putting out dual 24s?
I absolutely love JTRs and I have had many of them in my room. However a 24 is a 24! These are also sealed and the Cap I had in here was ported and it was blast. For my room sealed are a better choice. There is ton of ULF but cleaner and the room is not moaning and groaning as much. I bet I could have 4 RS2s in here as well and would love them but would cost me more than double what these did. Plus I am covering the entire bandwidth with those NSWs
@@Rayman-expertsoundpro Interesting. Very similar experience. I was running 4 ported SI HST-18s, and then recently switched to all sealed. Two dual-sealed 18's and two sealed 24s. I am liking the sealed subs a lot. It's definitely perceived as a cleaner sound, and no more port chuffing. The 24's are definitely impressive, but wasn't as big of a difference as when I got my first two SI HST-18s in. That was a religious experience.
For clarification, the HDFury devices, including the Vertex 2, do not do actual Tone Mapping. They can enable LLDV and allow some parameters to be set that can be beneficial to projectors.
From HD Fury: the HD Fury Vertex2 does offer tone mapping capabilities. Tone mapping is a process used in High Dynamic Range (HDR) video to adjust the luminance and color of images to match the characteristics of a display device. This is particularly important when playing HDR content on displays that do not support HDR natively.
The Vertex2 is equipped with advanced video processing features, including tone mapping, which allows it to adjust HDR content to be displayed on non-HDR displays while preserving the dynamic range and color accuracy as much as possible. This ensures that HDR content can still be enjoyed on SDR (Standard Dynamic Range) displays without loss of detail or color fidelity.
If that is the only thing you picked out in the video as notable then think we missed the point...lol
@@Rayman-expertsoundpro Your lol is simply unwarranted, clarifying the use of a product in a video has nothing to do with missing the point of the video, it's an excellent HT audio system and I did not imply otherwise.
I like bass, I like feeling it. This is over the top for me. I have 2 - 12" Klipsch subs in a 16 x 16 room ( 5.2.2 with all Klipsch speakers ) and that is plenty. Looks impressive though and a lot of money spent. Maybe in a few years I will get a 7.2.4 receiver.
For many enthusiasts it's about extension down into the single digits, free from distortions, etc.
A quadrupling of cone/stroke is required for every octave downward to maintain the same output.
So the max your two 12"s can do at 40hz, would require (32) 12"s down at 10hz!
The requirements add up fast.
@@FOH3663 I used to compete in Crank it ups back in the day, even with a Sony ES cd player ( late 80's ) and a spectrum analyzer, music didn't go down much lower than 20-25 hz. What source material goes down to 10hz ?
@@batsonelectronics
Very cool.
I participated in one car audio competition in the early 80's.
It wasn't a crank it up contest, I guess it was a linearity test. They placed a small tripod mounted test mic, and played a test signal ... measuring FR uniformity.
I didn't win but I received a dot matrix printed paper readout if my freq response!
It was a '76 Chevette, Alpine head end, 5" door mids, dash mounted Alpine dome/ribbon two-way tweets, supplemented by a dual voice coil 10" sub from SpeakerLab (in a sealed/quasi IB alignment).
Powered by Alpine and Linear Power.
Alphasonik active crossover.
Regarding 10hz and below content;
soundtracks special effects go as low as 3hz-4hz (War of the Worlds, Blackhawk Down, How to Train Your Dragon, a few examples).
Of course in music you don't encounter it much, but spectrals on some material show its there.
Synths, and perhaps the leading edge plosive of kick drum hit.
Tchaikovsky's 1812 Overture, the cannon blasts possess single digit energy (Telarc version used 105mm Howitzers from the US Military).
Before CD, there was few turntables that could track the 7hz blasts ... the tonearm would just fly out of the groove!
RAD!!! Love this room 😍 Been there 3x and it pressurizes your ears.
You know anyone else i can film?
@@ThatHomeTheaterDude We definitely need you to chronicle these local theaters!
I wonder how many DBs , I can do 121.6 ? I would like have some sort reference level.
Nice.
However, such a measurement needs;
- frequency
- distance
- environment (ie., ground plane outdoors, indoors 3k cubic feet room, etc.)
For example; 120dB at 10hz is only about 20dB above audibility.
Whereas 120dB at 3khz at the listening postion, will be painful!
Good speakers are so damn sexy
Can you give your opinion on JTR vs Perlisten? Everyone seems to really love JTR but Perlisten is for the purest? Love you hear your thoughts.
A beautiful installation but your cinema room seems too small for the speakers you have chosen, we can only see that too bad.
I noticed the screen size 1st for that theatre setup
I would be very distracted by those speakers around the screen, wonderful sound, but those speakers attract more attention than the image. Hide the speakers behind the screen.
I wouldve went with some perlistens or something behind an acousticslly transparent screen. The screen is way too high
nah brah! daas way too much
Blimey lose your hearing all those big Subwoofers and Speakers
Yes. Its uncomfortable how loud these are capable of
Screens size too small for the setup
can't go any wider, its a 120 inch on a 144 wall with bass and traps speakers in corners. AT would force me to give up one row of seating which I am not willing to do.
Funny in a real theater you don't see a bunch of speakers 🤦 you buy that much shyt you might as well go all in and think it out better and put them in the ceiling
Who the fook is this guy
It seems too brutal for my taste, but hey, if the neighborhood doesn't complain, why not??
No siempre más grande es mejor.
That looks like it's too much for that room
There is no such thing my friend....😀Until you hear it you won't know
Ha. Got eeemm
Give me a call. I have a job for you
Mucho parlante casi nada de pantalla.
Is this a joke
Whats your beef Larry
Those speakers are bordering on commercial concert units.
There's absolutely no reason for a home 24" subwoofer. Let alone that many.
The problem is that big electronic companies no longer play in this space, so you have to go one man business JTR etc.
Also angling your speakers is not necessary if you calibrate your sound correctly. It's not about bass.
I aim for the best music configuration first, and if you get music right, you don't need to do anything for movies. What I'm hearing there even from here is an after market car audio sounding system with no bass clarity
Wow, this post reeks of arrogance. 2 channel systems and theater setups have completely different goals.
- No reason for a 24? One. Home owner. He is emulating a popular theater in Wisconsin's sound signature. If that is his goal, he is very close.
- There are many subwoofer superstars out there like JTR, the delineations are pre-built configurations, vs flat packs and who pairs which crossovers and amps.
- Angled speakers aren't necessary in a calibrated 2 channel system, with a small listening area. A theater attempting to get full range without hotspots in all seats in a short space may be needed.
- Music configuration and movies are miles apart when dealing with multi zoned systems.
- If you think for a SECOND, that this bass response resembles a car audio sounding system with no bass clarity, you have no idea what advances a responsive, tight driver with good calibration can do. I have 6 x 18's and my bass is razer sharp, filling the entire space instantly. Does one have to address the residual patterns that can add up quickly? Of course. Did you see the room treatments here to adequately accommodate this? Doesn't seem like you did. The speaker recording this was simply overwhelmed, leaving you to think incorrect conclusions.
Lets tame the 2 channel bias a tad. If he wanted one, he would have built it.
You are missing a few data points here. First a mic on a phone will never be able to pic up the bass and its distorting badly, second you have no idea on the dispersion patterns of the JTRs, third you don't seem to understand the concept of headroom and what that does to sound quality.....you are certainly entitled to your opinion but you lack the information to make definitive and conclusive statements such as yours.
@@tkcdac Right on!
@@tkcdac Movies have sound tracks in them buddy. A Soundtrack is usually a song.
If you calibrate for music you get a better accurate movie and TV audio experience.
Throwing giant subwoofers at your lack of calibration knowledge only creates a mess akin to an aftermarket car audio system
@@Rayman-expertsoundpro Who said i watched it on a phone? Regardless, that sounded like a straining speaker and yes that who come through a phone speaker as well
This guy is way too concerned with his lfe.
Id say youre too unconcerned with your Lfe
@ThatHomeTheaterDude absolutely, I have 12 subs but ur just reactively guessin, I watched a video and made an opinion
@@bingdong8571 id like to hear the story about your screen name. :)