Drones Are IMBALANCED? | Is It Imba Or Do I Suck

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  • čas přidán 10. 06. 2020
  • My boy josh was wondering if zerg was really imba or if he sucked.
    You will NEVER guess what I'll tell him.
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Komentáře • 300

  • @tommyproductions891
    @tommyproductions891 Před 4 lety +884

    this is literally just free coaching except for the cost of being verbally destroyed

    • @lucassachwald8370
      @lucassachwald8370 Před 4 lety +34

      I've learned.
      What did it costs?
      Everything.

    • @clee89
      @clee89 Před 4 lety +14

      And his series “how do I beat this” is just straight coaching LUL

    • @FogToo
      @FogToo Před 4 lety +8

      Yea imagine some people pay for that.

    • @BurgMusic
      @BurgMusic Před 4 lety +20

      This is literally how I got to diamond for the first time back in the day. A buddy I play with would just smoke me every damn game and then the verbal abuse came in the replay... as harsh as it was, it was accurate and true. I chose to learn from his statements instead of cry imba.

    • @VictorF0326
      @VictorF0326 Před 4 lety +1

      #WinterAngryCoach yes he's a sellout and people pay $30 bucks for hours of content.

  • @JoshIbbotson
    @JoshIbbotson Před 4 lety +509

    Worth it for the wink
    Aight I'm gonna get to master this season and send in another replay!
    TIL
    - Phoenix trash against corrupter, brood lord
    - Kevin can't handle when things that shouldn't work, work.
    - Don't wing a build order you watched in a video one time on the ranked ladder
    - What is scouting?
    - Units > 10+ cannons
    - Not building workers is dumb dumb
    oh and I suck

    • @user-mt2jm7vy6i
      @user-mt2jm7vy6i Před 4 lety +4

      phoenixes can be good vs mass corruptors with anion pulse-crystals and if you are really good at kiting corruptors since you will have bigger range and more speed than them so even if you can't win direct fight you can fly around abusing your range and ability to move while shooting to deplete their number and eventually drain down their quantity.
      I think I saw some games Classic doing so. But they are pretty bad vs hydra and brood lords obviously, also they are ONLY good vs corruptors if you have a lot of them AND can kite effectively and not just fly in and try to win direct statcheck fight.

    • @CP4884
      @CP4884 Před 4 lety +19

      Multi-tasking attacks, run-by's with A-attack command are some things you should also consider implementing into your arsenal.

    • @ramil8029
      @ramil8029 Před 4 lety +6

      instead of sending in 4 adepts into 1 base, send 2 into one and 2 into another. Try not to waste time hitting queens and spines - instead shift-target drones. Don't look at your adepts too much as they're harassing - move your camera and macro up in the meantime. I hope this helps. GL

    • @JoshIbbotson
      @JoshIbbotson Před 4 lety +8

      @@ramil8029 Cheers, I've actually got this build order down now, this replay was one of my first attempts and I just winged it based off of what I saw Harstem do
      Wouldn't mind getting camera hotkeys down tbh!
      Currently sat in Diamond 2 - 3.7k mmr

    • @Xerpadon
      @Xerpadon Před 4 lety

      that was hard to watch i had to jump out at 7:35 after you warp prism died for no good reason :(

  • @snowdrop9810
    @snowdrop9810 Před 4 lety +140

    I thought this was going to be a complaint about workerrushing with drones. Im dissapointed.

    • @generic8891
      @generic8891 Před 4 lety +1

      Just a simple nickname I was expecting complaints about zerg regen or something

    • @xXMemelord
      @xXMemelord Před 4 lety +2

      Generic i mean technically becuase zerg units regen means you can play a game without a SINGLE unit dying. granted, good luck with that, buttttt it IS overpowered if youre alphastar.

  • @erytroxylon
    @erytroxylon Před 4 lety +111

    "He actually plays like a crappy AI ! ..This is fantastic !..That is some higher level stuff!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @MrJust2times
      @MrJust2times Před 4 lety +2

      What a Roast

    • @juztina7346
      @juztina7346 Před 4 lety

      hartstemm at his best time mocking and insulting ppl , never knew he could speak like that...

    • @davidcabrera88
      @davidcabrera88 Před 4 lety +1

      It's BetaStar! Alphastar's dumber younger sibling.

  • @SteveSoper1979
    @SteveSoper1979 Před 4 lety +20

    17:44 "If the Zerg would also want to send in the replay from his side" lol.

  • @KEVINlikesXBOX
    @KEVINlikesXBOX Před 4 lety +241

    I had a big brain shower thought and I'd like to share it with all of my fellow high IQ real time strategy game players here. What you do in the morning from the second you wake up is like a build order for life. It follows, then, that there are objectively better and worse life builds. Like for example: starting the coffee maker before toasting my bagel is efficient since the coffee takes longer. And once I've used my APM on that I can start other things. Sometimes on the weekend, I do a "cheese" build of staying in bed for longer, etc. Anyway, since I'm sure all of us here are GM and have huge brains, we all have great life builds. My point is, try to be GM in life, too. Thanks for attending my TED talk.

    • @business_max
      @business_max Před 4 lety +1

      Haha yea I had similar thoughts some days ago! :D

    • @shieldmate7444
      @shieldmate7444 Před 4 lety +1

      Yeah, I used the analogy of BO in real life too.

    • @PsychokoreUndergroundRap
      @PsychokoreUndergroundRap Před 4 lety +1

      😏 everyday i play the winning build order

    • @Salted_Fysh
      @Salted_Fysh Před 4 lety +13

      Analogy is lacking. There are no winners in real life. Only those who loose worse than others. In the end all builds are shit.

    • @bookworm8415
      @bookworm8415 Před 4 lety +3

      Hammas Haukka
      Donno. Elon has a pretty good one. Just to name one off the top of my head.

  • @bookworm8415
    @bookworm8415 Před 4 lety +22

    “Phoenix is absolutely not the answer...its working.” Hahaha. Love it.

  • @shieldmate7444
    @shieldmate7444 Před 4 lety +51

    I get why Zero is angry. I would be angry too if I lost this way. At myself.

    • @Iluvatara
      @Iluvatara Před 4 lety

      but he lost to himself he cant even play not zerg op

  • @davidfoley4585
    @davidfoley4585 Před 4 lety +117

    Love the toned down editing. I think it's in a really good place.

    • @noneofyourbusiness4133
      @noneofyourbusiness4133 Před 4 lety +6

      I have to agree. The first two felt a bit showy off. this is also easier on the editor as well! A win win! Fans are happy and less work needs to be done!

    • @pheonex4180
      @pheonex4180 Před 4 lety

      I was thinking the same. It's well balanced right now.

    • @cringeworthybears5500
      @cringeworthybears5500 Před 3 lety

      I respectfully disagree since I love the heavily edited ones. It is way easier on the editor though.

    • @alexlefkowitz
      @alexlefkowitz Před 2 lety

      @@noneofyourbusiness4133 showey off? What the hell are you talking about are you jealous or something?

  • @ecnunn17
    @ecnunn17 Před 4 lety +18

    Love the extra editing you've begun incorporating! Super educational and helpful for the viewer to follow along

  • @PhantomKenTen
    @PhantomKenTen Před 4 lety +25

    This is one of my favorite SC2 series

  • @slimbeatz4125
    @slimbeatz4125 Před 4 lety +8

    I lost it when the three adepts shaded into the middle of the Zerg army lol

  • @dinowillem
    @dinowillem Před 4 lety +28

    when the suck list needs to overlap itself MonkaS

  • @GregTourville
    @GregTourville Před 4 lety +17

    When you do more eco damage to yourself than your opponent.

  • @waynewalsh8811
    @waynewalsh8811 Před 4 lety +2

    Harstem, I had my first experience of your videos just this week and have watched dozens since then. You’re absolutely hilarious. The verbal destruction that you spew forth is epic. Educational too. Huge thumbs up from me!

  • @sorgoiprakov6250
    @sorgoiprakov6250 Před 4 lety +6

    Best video so far on this channel, perfect editing, perfect commentary, perfect suckage. Love it

  • @TheChiefKipSavage
    @TheChiefKipSavage Před 4 lety +1

    The editing in this video was so much better, you did a fantastic job. The economy comparison after fights was an amazing touch, really puts things into perspective. Excellent work as always

  • @falknfurter
    @falknfurter Před 4 lety +8

    I like the IMBA-application form at the beginning and the textboxes for the fights. That increases even more the quality of your content. As always your remarks provide many insights. Though, I cannot remember such a devastating conclusion in recent times. For games like this you might want to create a "Please confirm IDS" form.

    • @Ajaxlancer
      @Ajaxlancer Před 4 lety

      Watch the battlecruiser one for the MOST savage conclusion

  • @TheRooster1337
    @TheRooster1337 Před 4 lety +1

    I really like the editing! Adding text and information is really nice. Keep it up please! :D

  • @mattp1328
    @mattp1328 Před 4 lety +2

    Great job on the editing! Love this series.

  • @MrScipio42
    @MrScipio42 Před 4 lety

    My favourite series right now! Great content and editing.

  • @bensaunders6800
    @bensaunders6800 Před 4 lety +1

    Awesome job with the editing!!!! Really great balance and I learned what EPM meant :)

  • @DuraheLL
    @DuraheLL Před 4 lety

    Hey new viewer here! I love this concept of a serie of videos! You review cases from other players and explain it. It's absolutely amazing to watch and listen to your knowledge, subscribed.

  • @Lancer78x
    @Lancer78x Před 3 lety

    I dunno why but the casual wink at the end just got me man.. good stuff bro. I love his sarcasm, and good sarcasm is often indicator of very high IQ(True Fact).

  • @captaincornhole7317
    @captaincornhole7317 Před 3 lety

    You are the best commentator for these videos! You always have me laughing so damn hard. Love ya Harstem!

  • @jean-simonplamondon2051

    I love the part of the build order not being a build order but being the least effective of all the build order that are not being a real build order! Love it!

  • @jacobgirling7739
    @jacobgirling7739 Před 4 lety

    Now this is perfect editing, good job editor. You've reached some awesome balance

  • @SnkobArts
    @SnkobArts Před 4 lety

    Hey! The squeaky weighing scale in the beginning is a nice touch!! Keep it

  • @ImMrHibachi
    @ImMrHibachi Před 3 lety

    I love that little wink at the end, lol

  • @arrayarray2537
    @arrayarray2537 Před 3 lety

    I became an instant fan of this guy when I watched the video of him roasting Lowko hahaha! And here I am checking old vids while constantly watching your new upload. Good luck man! Hope you get to play on more tournaments, rooting for you! And I improved a lot since I watched your gameplays and build orders and how to do zealot sneaky attacks. I just started playing sc2 2 months ago, and I am not currently at Plat 3. But I can no longer go up. It's like Win Lose Win lose scenario now. Please give a newbie tips for Protoss vs Protoss. I am a toss main and I suck so hard at PvP :(

  • @Treksh
    @Treksh Před 3 lety

    Top-quality video right there, premium editing and content.

  • @redeye8805
    @redeye8805 Před 4 lety

    I really like the new edits, must require alot of work tbh, Keep up the great videos captain.

  • @Szerspliexiust
    @Szerspliexiust Před 4 lety +24

    I like the editing!

  • @multicrogamer
    @multicrogamer Před 4 lety

    I don't know if i should comment on editing again but i see you have taken some tips from some comments. From what i have seen in this video i will give you my impressions.
    It's much much cleaner. Zooming on harstem is meme fuel. Repeating his words in sentence at 2:16 is exactly what i was talking about when saying you need to add aditional context and not take away from his spotlight. It's epic , just typing out his words into this long sentence made that joke much funier. APM , EPM clarification is perfect. Trade info is really really helpful and useful.
    Balance report card is awesome , ending is really awesome with text and report card.
    I don't know if you are going to be edditing different series. But every series cold have it's own theme with regards to that you can change your style little bit.
    Afterall you don't need to do much to make video more interesting.

  • @allmhuran
    @allmhuran Před 4 lety +2

    There's always a lot of little mistakes, but in IODIS there are often just two or three main issues. This really was a game in two parts, lost in two parts:
    1) Killing a lot of drones didn't give any advantage in part 1 because there was no expansion behind it, allowing Z to hit back with the mutas against low eco P.
    2) Phoenix weren't good in part 1 because they needed better micro, nor in part 2 against corruptor brood. Their brief victory because Z derped for a couple of minutes and forgot to have any corruptors was just a red herring.

  • @migueljuan5374
    @migueljuan5374 Před 4 lety +3

    I can't wait for someone to send a vid to Harstem about the new shield battery being OP. Some people are already complaining on that.

  • @BookOfMorman
    @BookOfMorman Před 2 lety

    This is the calm, ASMR version of "Is It Imba Or Do I Suck" and I can say it helped me go to sleep! :D

  • @girish9242
    @girish9242 Před 4 lety

    Just seeing all those corruptors chilling in one spot and the storm not even touching them...
    So many emotions at once.

  • @monkeybusiness673
    @monkeybusiness673 Před 2 lety

    Again a classic "How can he have so much money?! I didn't have any?!" While completely forgetting to mention that they invested a solid full base worth of minerals in canons all over the place....Fascinating!
    Also, I think Harstem is the only person that can say "That actually triggers the crap out of me!" in such a calm manner. Gotta love it!

  • @nightmareTomek
    @nightmareTomek Před 3 lety

    "If you had a 5 minute head start, you'd still manage to lose." xD Hahahahaha.
    New & unique roasts EVERY WEEK!

  • @jbosssenpai3266
    @jbosssenpai3266 Před 4 lety +2

    I love you harstem , how can I counter heavy early game aggression ( 2 stalker aggression at start and very aggressive adding more and more )

  • @twocows360
    @twocows360 Před 4 lety +1

    20:30 i'm absolutely terrible and even i'd have taken advantage of this, his entire army is corruptors and one brood lord, how do you not notice that

  • @marcojuniopaim8931
    @marcojuniopaim8931 Před 4 lety

    The editing is getting good

  • @Hoody1147
    @Hoody1147 Před 3 lety

    I just started watching these Harstem videos, and on one hand, hes bashing on the player. And on the other, golden tips that can help gameplay by a lot!

  • @nothan1419
    @nothan1419 Před 4 lety +1

    nice editing!

  • @raffimolero64
    @raffimolero64 Před 4 lety +3

    A suggestion for editing is to add a countdown to the pop-ups so we know when they go away. It'd be nice.

  • @warrenloving1141
    @warrenloving1141 Před 3 lety

    came from lowko, liked and subscribed after the build order quote

  • @VictorF0326
    @VictorF0326 Před 4 lety

    This is a great idea lol. I personally like the catchy name of The IMBA Report tho

  • @Mr_Fission
    @Mr_Fission Před 3 lety

    This is the most savage, calm roast I've ever heard

  • @damirismailow3829
    @damirismailow3829 Před 4 lety

    Good job editor!

  • @gewinnendenfluss
    @gewinnendenfluss Před 4 lety +4

    Laughed a lot, would recommend

  • @TheAussieLeo
    @TheAussieLeo Před 3 lety +1

    Best Editor on CZcams

  • @AntiDoctor-cx2jd
    @AntiDoctor-cx2jd Před rokem

    Every game needs a mid-game review with Harstem

  • @excellentyouboober
    @excellentyouboober Před 3 lety

    You are too kind, Captain! This toss played shit haha, check the move at 13:17 I lost it at that point

  • @sergrojGrayFace
    @sergrojGrayFace Před 3 lety

    By the stats, most people actually play like Josh or worse. The reason he didn't build workers is that he was microing the adepts. The reason he didn't scout is the same - having other things to do. Multitasking (including building and attacking at the same time) and build orders are just too advanced. So are the unit compositions.

  • @kebman
    @kebman Před 4 lety

    I love building cannons too! I usually build them much earlier, though..... Like way earlier............

  • @Gid-J
    @Gid-J Před 3 lety +2

    Most of this game, the protoss only has one thing on the production tab at a time

  • @richardblabla
    @richardblabla Před 4 lety

    Love the comedic anger. Funny shit.

  • @Jasonmoofang
    @Jasonmoofang Před 4 lety +1

    Applying the principle of charity, perhaps he actually got matched with a random player who spawned zerg. I always hate it when that happens because that throws my walling plans out of whack. Actually I could use some tips for that scenario! Whats the best way to play against random and adapt your wall after finding out the opposing race.

    • @lobo3091
      @lobo3091 Před 4 lety

      quick scout and low ground wall (better safe than sorry)

    • @Jasonmoofang
      @Jasonmoofang Před 4 lety +1

      @@lobo3091 but if you pylon the low ground then find out it's protoss that'll kinda suck too won't it?

  • @solvital4068
    @solvital4068 Před 4 lety +2

    I want to start playing sc2 just to see your frustration when I send my games in

  • @bestcyber1
    @bestcyber1 Před 4 lety

    This man is a legend!! Came to learn stuff stayed for the cringe ( j'adore ta chaine !!)

  • @9540400
    @9540400 Před 4 lety

    I’m glad this replay was submitted because I got to hear constructive criticism from Harstem and learn from it :)

  • @Armocalypsis
    @Armocalypsis Před 4 lety +54

    Why are you running?.gif

    • @Ole_Rasmussen
      @Ole_Rasmussen Před 4 lety +7

      I am so bothered by that questionmark in a file name

    • @Burger19985
      @Burger19985 Před 4 lety

      question mark makes me triggered

  • @pylonialwaffles6944
    @pylonialwaffles6944 Před 3 lety +1

    20:05. 200 hp zergling?!
    yeah yeah, it's probably supposed to be 20, but it clearly says 200.

  • @dirtbones
    @dirtbones Před 4 lety

    Rofl, fucking brutal comments at the end. Loved it

  • @mohussain1566
    @mohussain1566 Před 4 lety +1

    I like the form to fill out

  • @talictdf4757
    @talictdf4757 Před 4 lety +3

    At least storm did a lot of work.. on his own units xD

  • @user-zg6zc2zx4s
    @user-zg6zc2zx4s Před 4 lety

    21:29 harstem beatbox

  • @UnstableVolt
    @UnstableVolt Před 4 lety

    Not sure I ever played someone in the lowly silver or gold leagues that made so few probes as our friend Josh here!

  • @ledrash6079
    @ledrash6079 Před 4 lety

    22:20 That doesnt look like they lost equal amounts of stuff to me? Where did he get that the lost tab was even?

  • @ukaszkrawczyk1100
    @ukaszkrawczyk1100 Před 4 lety

    I love how you refused to comment on the storm that happens at 21:11

  • @TylerJBrown192
    @TylerJBrown192 Před 4 lety +1

    IN WHAT FUCKING WORLD IS THIS PERSON DIAMOND. THIS IS INSANE.

  • @ludvigsundstrom6218
    @ludvigsundstrom6218 Před 4 lety

    This is golden

  • @Vexed09
    @Vexed09 Před 4 lety

    So brutal. I love it.

  • @leagueresurrection
    @leagueresurrection Před 4 lety

    I love harstem!!!

  • @williambrinkmeier1772
    @williambrinkmeier1772 Před 3 lety

    Oddly I kinda did an experiment so I started keeping track of protoss players usually between d3-d1 somehow about 95% of the time I kill there worker trying to drop there expansion yet it basically never happens to terrans or even randoms who get protoss.

  • @dustbane1388
    @dustbane1388 Před 3 lety

    The second adept really wanted to show that he died micheal bay explosion :D

  • @seawolf4606
    @seawolf4606 Před 4 lety

    PRODUCTION QUALITY HAS INCREASED

  • @antondegroot6061
    @antondegroot6061 Před 3 lety

    1:20 Unfortunately yes :(
    I dont play sc2, i did play sc1 for between 5000 and 10.000 hours and was reasonably good at it. (would have probably been high diamond-low masters if those ranks would have existed)
    My foremost memory however is how i sometimes had to pause the game to make my arm stop shaking. My head was thinking about everything i had to do at the same time and my arm would not keep up and at some point start shaking uncontrollably :(
    Now im old and even slower, now i surely can't play this game on a decent level anymore.

  • @Tom_Xtremee_
    @Tom_Xtremee_ Před 2 lety

    oh.. after years of playing starcraft 2 I finally got know from where word "imba" came, it is shortcut of word "imbalanced" 🤣

  • @theofanispatitsas7111
    @theofanispatitsas7111 Před 3 lety

    It is funny how some ppl refer to APM like it means something by itself. I can go crazy high APM by random moving units around aimlessly, that does not mean I have an advantage...

  • @soju69jinro
    @soju69jinro Před 4 lety

    I'm a silver, I try to follow build order, i do have a gameplan, i do wall against zerg, i kinda react properly to enemy units, my third base is quite too early, and I don't really scout enough. Do I belong in Diamond league with Zero?

  • @falblinger7015
    @falblinger7015 Před 4 lety

    Dont mind me, just sitting here beeing flashed by the editing skills

  • @adrienguibal6431
    @adrienguibal6431 Před 3 lety

    "
    why are you running ?" XD

  • @echisan87
    @echisan87 Před 3 lety

    ive literally binge watched is it ima or do i suck for like 6 hours

  • @notadolphin9995
    @notadolphin9995 Před 4 lety

    Me low IQ: Ah yes, canonz
    Harsten high IQ: kopple a kanons

  • @aleinadtv88
    @aleinadtv88 Před 4 lety

    What i love more about this series is what i learn about the game. Counters, tactics, builds etc. Keep up the good work.

  • @steakmonday8380
    @steakmonday8380 Před 4 lety +5

    I killed 60 workers!
    Bruh you didnt manage to build that many until 15 minutes in to the game

  • @davidkermott7231
    @davidkermott7231 Před 2 lety

    Now I've seen a lot of builds that aren't builds. But out of all the builds that actaully aren't builds out of all of the builds that aren't builds. -Harstem 2020, Inspired by Sun Tzu

  • @DtoZ24
    @DtoZ24 Před 3 lety

    like one of the commentators of professional games said
    "if you are on the lower ladder and want to play phoenixes... just don't"

  • @mattiasmartens9972
    @mattiasmartens9972 Před 3 lety

    At 6:50 it looks like he's targeting down individual drones with, like, 7 adepts? But drones only take 2 hits to kill so most of that damage is wasted. I guess he's doing it because otherwise they would all target the queen. But, still, maybe that's why he didn't do as much damage as he thought he did.

  • @visoroverwatch3247
    @visoroverwatch3247 Před 3 lety

    That Thumbnail lol.

  • @timm7100
    @timm7100 Před 4 lety +3

    Thanks for the wink.

    • @timm7100
      @timm7100 Před 4 lety +3

      and the second wink

  • @eksentrysyti
    @eksentrysyti Před 4 lety

    So... what was the logic behind not making any Void Rays? Mass Void Rays hard counters Corruptor/BroodLords, no?

  • @carbumb4229
    @carbumb4229 Před 4 lety

    IS that a team liquid emblem?

  • @94Bjornen
    @94Bjornen Před 3 lety

    He is diamond?! The ranks of Starcraft still surprises me. Im just a plat player, but still ^^ that build order

  • @GeneralG1810
    @GeneralG1810 Před 3 lety

    You had 9 gates that could have made stalkers, but instead made 2 Pheonix

  • @JokeofAllButts
    @JokeofAllButts Před 3 lety

    I was legit giggling like a fool during 60 % of this game :O

  • @atticus2581
    @atticus2581 Před 3 lety

    You know, when i play zerg i treat it as a flexible series of strategies depending on what my enemy is doing, so scouting is a must. why the zerg just didnt make a crap ton of lings, idk. Maybe he wanted to play with mutas, whatever, but when a toss doesnt wall off youre damn well sure im gonna make 10 lings and keep on pumping out lings till hes dead.

  • @BurgMusic
    @BurgMusic Před 4 lety

    *doesn't even have 50 workers yet at the 12-minute mark* "BUT I KILLED 65 WORKERS! IMBA!!!" Maaaaaan, I was taught back in gold league that the number of workers you kill doesn't matter at all if you don't produce any. Should easily be close to maxed at 12 minutes but he doesn't even have 70 total supply... When did low diamond get so slow at production? I knew they increased the target percentage for the league... but < 70 supply at the 12 minute mark??? Yikes... And other than a couple adept runbys, it wasn't even that much of a slugfest to justify the low supply.