UK Class 195 full kickdown to 100mph
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- čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
- After many bodged attempts to get one of these accelerating to 100mph, I've reached the conclusion that the only place this is possible without any inhibitions is from Wigan North Western to Preston. Also have to have luck on your side with the driver "flooring" it and background noise on these busy trains.
The best place to hear the engine/transmission is the tip up seats in the vestibule.
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Unit: 195125
Manufacturer: Construcciones y Auxiliar de Ferrocarriles (CAF)
Engine: Rolls-Royce MTU 6H1800R85, 523bhp
Transmission: ZF Ecolife 6 speed
0:05 - 1st gear
0:18 - 2nd gear
0:35 - 3rd gear
0:54 - 4th gear
2:09 - 5th gear
4:42 - 6th gear
6th to 5th downshifts 5:56, 7:47, 8:06
6th to 5th - 9:09
5th to 4th - 10:06
4th to 3rd - 10:33
3rd to 2nd - 10:49
![[ZF] ZF 6HP Volvo B7TL LJ55 BVH with full kickdown - VLA176](/img/n.gif)
The irony is, these sound more like a bus than the pacers they've replaced!
It’s because the buses and those have the exact same gearbox, ZF ecolife
@@BBS7523imagine limiter removed on 195s
Never realise Kickdowns can apply on trains 😂😂
this is really a good one
In Argentina there are Materfer "Coche Motor" with Allison 6 speed
Always loved trains with the ZF Gearbox
I'm surprised by how much it sounds like a bus.
What buses u getting on
This was my reaction when getting on the overground. I didn’t know all part of the lines were not electrified back then, if I was blind I would’ve assumed I got on a bus 😂
@dErpLovesTravel its very similar to one . A train rarely sounds like this
It is the same as the 172. They sound the same.
It's a rail version of a bus transmission- the ZF Ecolife.
Great vid. These units get a lot of stick it seems but their performance can't be questioned
Beautiful trains
Beautiful sounds
Very modern and sleek
Horrible seats I thought ironing boards were for ironing not for sitting on makes my back hurt
Very bumpy I can get over that I do like that personally gives the sensation of speed and that you are on the railway
still more comfy than a pacer
I love this. I got on 195 126 which held its second gear. Please do more of these :D
These classes are one of Britain's best commuter trains. you filmed a similar transmission type on the chiltern railway I do believe many years ago.. w/kickdown
They’re really not, class 172s and 185s put these to shame
@@JustClickApprove92 yeah as much as I love the 195 because if it’s quirky nature the 185 out matches it in every way.
You've obviously not had to work one!
You can hear the motor /,gearbox whines of typical emus also in the mix
These are cracking things when they get to speed. Was up that way last weekend and had one on the Furness line. Bit along the WCML between Lancaster and Carnforth really did show how good these are at near top speed, just a shame they don’t really see it with the work they do!
Just like the Leyland Olympian with Cummins engine
The MTUs are screaming engines
Wright VOLVO
0:04 1st gear
0:18 2nd gear
0:35 3rd gear
0:55 4th gear
2:10 5th gear
Wow such amazing sounds if only Scotland had these units that would be amazing but sadly we only have the class 170s and 158s non off the fancy stuff you have in this video but all In all great video bro keep the good work up
Believe me, the 170s and 158s are far more comfortable than 195s. The seats, noise level and ride quality are all very poor in the 195s. There's a reason it's joked within the rail industry that CAF stands for 'cheap as f***'.
Oh
Wdym, 158s sound awesome
Nice vid, thanks. Would be great to see this along with an overlay of GPS speed to see what these units can really do. I've ridden one once and I don't have a high opinion of comfort or noise isolation.
Good thing they sound great then
Church Fenton to York is a good place for peak power on these
Yeah
So is the kick down the electric sounding noise around 1:10?
@Xstgamer412 & BPL_North I believe it's the air conditioning
Air con or filtering system if some kind . Perhaps for any warm electric component.
Weird hearing a train with gears
In Argentina there are Materfer "Coche Motor" with Allison 6 speed
I caught one on September 30th 2019 from Lancaster to Manchester Oxford Road and it got to Preston in like 16-17 minutes 🙂!
How long would a 156 take or another class
@@andybray9791 I believe the 156's were timed for around 20 minutes.
@@mitchellhurd9300 they are only allowed to do 75mph unless driver wants to push it further
I'm not gonna lie, it almost sounds like the class 4000s I have here in Northern Ireland
Maybe use a gps overlay with a map so time and speed can be seen. Another place is church Fenton going towards York.
I wonder that Drivers can control the gearbox and know the RPM of the engine?
Wigan to Preston, 10 to 15mins, however Wigan to Manchester via bolton or Atherton line 40 mins.
However work has started on extending my local station ince in makerfieild, and electrification! However my house backs onto Springs Branch and noisy traffic in the night and horns can be a bit much.
Sadly electrification won’t go from Wigan to Kirkby or Southport
like a bus
That's a weird looking bus you're on there,.
It does sound like a bus!
Wait so can someone tell me, is the engine directly driving the train or is it still a Diesel Electric setup? If it is, why the gearbox?
that is fast :O
It's the same engine and gearbox as a dennis enviro 400.
Northern towards Windmere
0:05 1st gear
0:18 2nd gear
0:35 3rd gear
0:54 4th gear
2:09 5th gear
4:42 6th gear
9:09 6th to 5th
10:06 5th to 4th
10:33 4th to 3rd
10:49 3rd to 2nd
Theses remind me of the tfw class 197
1:19-1:20
1:39-1:40
1:59-2:00
2:59-4:04-4:14-4:54
10:47
5:39-6:28
If only Manual transmission exists on trains…
First gen dmus!
Look up class 101s
Kiha 31 also a manual Tranmission
There’s no clutch tho, you would have to take throttle off, to change up a gear
Is it me or does this sound like a class 172 used in the west midlands
100% - same awful interior rattles that you get on the 172s too. Awful passenger experience!
Listen to the interior rattle about 20 seconds in!
@@willparton I’d rather have the rattling of the 172 than the awful seating and abysmal ride quality of a 195
@@JustClickApprove92 wow are they really that bad? Hopefully seating on the Class 196s is a bit better! 😱
@@willparton the ride quality of near life expired class 150, 155 and 156s is far smoother, on a 195, you can feel every bump and the clunk and jointing noises the carriage makes is very obxonious
In terms of seating the 195 is among the worst I’ve experienced, they’re not even comfortable for short journeys
The class 196s are far more refined in terms of ride quality, but I’d still say it was lacking. The seating is acceptable for the journeys they will do, but not much longer
What type of transmission is this?
ZF Ecolife, Same as whats used in modern buses.
it's a 6 Speed ZF EcoLife Automatic Gearbox m8
@@KevsterWilson haha, so much for moving away from the ‘bus on rails’ stereotype. They do make a nice box though
read the descripton
Here’s a sound clip of how pacers sounded in the early days when they still had Leyland TL11 engines and self changing gears. czcams.com/video/p3-wT5-qsp4/video.htmlfeature=shared
0:00-0:30
1:01-1:31
0:44
0:19-0:20
0:39-0:40
0:59-1:00
5:40-6:29
1:00-10:00
Such a shame that the 195s and 331s are such utter shite to work.
Shite as a passenger too
They are a massive improvement than the Pacers Though.
@@joemercedeschannel196 so they should be, the pacers were never meant to last as long as they did
5:37-6:24
2:19-2:20
2:39-2:40
2:59-3:00
10:44
5:36-6:26
5:38-6:27
5:33-6:21
5:34-6:22
5:36-6:25
5:35-6:23
10:37
10:35
10:40