Why Were We Obsessed With Lavender Town?
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- 2011. A year when the Lavender Town creepypasta is brewing and getting ready to take over the internet. Coincidentally, also the year when several girls in Le Roy New York began to experience a bizarre illness that seemed to come out of nowhere.... And as fate would have it, both incidents share a disturbing thread when you look at the psychology behind what was happening. Today on Psych of Play, we’re talking Nocebo, Mass Psychogenic Illness, and Illusory Truth. Strap in, this one is a bit spoopy.
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▶Games Shown
Final Fantasy VII Remake (2020) - Square Enix
Pokemon Red & Blue2 (1996) - Game Freak
Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! (2018) - Game Freak
Resident Evil 3 (2020) - Capcom
▶Clips/Movies Shown
Kaguya Sama: Love is War (2019)
Rascal Does Not Dream of Bunny Girl Senpai (2019)
Dragonball Z (1989)
Naruto (2002)
SpongeBob SquarePants (1999)
Home Alone 2: Lost in New York (1992)
Knowing (2009)
Whose Line Is It Anyway? (1998)
The Dark Knight (2008)
The Big Bang Theory (2007)
The Notebook (2004)
The Fairly OddParents (2001)
Dallas Buyers Club (2013)
Fist Fight (2017)
Transformers (2007)
Psych (2006)
One of the harry potters, half blood prince? 2010?
My Hero Academia (2016)
Ed, Edd n Eddy (1999)
Veggietales (2002) - yes I did, name another creator that would use fucking VEGGIETALES CLIPS
Rounders (1998)
Memento (2000)
Looney Tunes (1930-69)
Other Videos Referenced/Included: • LAVENDER TOWN
▶Music Sources:
Animal Crossing - K.K. Cruisin' True Remix
BACKWHEN - Dreamcatcher
Himel Anthony - Dark Scary Ambient Music
dontaskalex - out of the blue
KE$HA - TiK ToK (InstrumentalKaraoke)
manitee - Seafloor
a conscious cloud - Pokemon Lavender Town Remix (Creepypasta Song)
Stiig - Gently Pass
Stiig - Going Home
Pokemon Ruby OST - The Drought
Tokyo Rose - End Game
TRVTH - Lost
▶Research Articles Cited
Original Twitching Story:
www.nytimes.com/2012/03/11/ma...
Twitching Follow-up:
www.reuters.com/article/us-st...
Twitching In-Depth Explanation: • Mass Hysteria in Le Ro...
How Mass Hysteria Is Related to Groupthink
www.verywellmind.com/understa...
Epidemic Hysteria: A Review of the Published Literature
pdfs.semanticscholar.org/bc21...
What Is Mass Psychogenic Illness?
www.aafp.org/afp/2000/1215/p2...
www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056...
Lavender Town Syndrome
creepypasta.fandom.com/wiki/L...
kotaku.com/pokemons-creepy-la...
Illusory Truth Effect:
thedecisionlab.com/biases/ill...
Knowledge Does Not Protect Against Illusory Truth
www.apa.org/pubs/journals/fea...
Original pastebin post:
pastebin.com/f71e6728f
Nocebo Effect:
www.cambridge.org/core/journa...
www.bmj.com/content/332/7546/...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22336...
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#PsychofPlay - Hry
It really comes down to "we _want_ to be fooled" doesn't it? The thought of nothing disturbing happening is more disturbing to us than anything.
Plenty of disturbing things are happening
and *that* is disturbing.
I wouldn't say it goes through that route, I'd guess it's that we ultimately have a strong tendency to 'biasedly' look for justifications on reality for our preconceptions of reality.
What would strengthen our beliefs, making us act accordingly. Even to the point of subconsciously developing harmful symptoms.
I'd say anxiety and panic attacks could have something to do with this, we're scared, so we may find (in other words fabricate) reasons on reality for our fear and panic, worsening the situation.
maybe thats why i wasn't hurt on the ears part cause i live in a place where something disturbing happening is a pretty common thing
Did you just try to make literally nothing sound disturbing?
The Lavender Town music isn't supposed to be scary, it's supposed to be sad. It's a funeral march.
MMMMMMMMM
@profile, void it feels nostalgic instead for me which is fine since it's a graveyard so like nostalgia of the dead Pokémon
It reminds me of the theme from pyscho
@CRF.Channel97 Fire Red's version used to creep me out. Never heard Leaf Greens music but tbh I didn't know it was different.
@@kalechips5972 they put a slash between the two because they are interchangeable. As in the same song is in both versions of the game.
"You're gonna feel pain in your head and ears"
"Well hate to tell ya this but I've been felin that for years"
haha same
i felt mild discomfort because of a high pitch sound in my ear after listening to generally soothing voices, i'd say thats pretty normal
Same
Tourettes confirmed?
@@SirTomFoolery *vaccinating causes autism confirmed?*
*Wait no*
“I can’t hear the pseudo tones over my tinnitus”
Better get that blood pressure checked!
This is not a joke. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
SAME!
even tho there was nothing there the silence was silenced by the ringing in my ears-
Me too man
One time, back in high school, this guy in the locker room gave me a breath mint. After eating it he told me it was ecstasy. I started freaking out, thinking and feeling that I was getting high at my catholic high school.
Turns out it was just a mint lol.
Can’t believe you’d ever do mints in the locker room, absolute delinquency, I say
Logan Mohaupt a MADMAN
This made my day 😂
Yeah in high school my friend brought in brownies and told me they were pot brownies. We ate them in class and both had an amazing time, laughing and one of the best memories. My teacher of course didn’t believe anyone would so blatantly bring in pot brownies so just shrugged it off.
Turns out they *were* pot brownies and the teacher thought we were just messing with him.
@@bexica5676 omg 😂💀 well that worked out great!
Just reading "lavender town" makes me think of the music in my head.
_toot toot teet toot, toot toot teet toot_
El Mao S T OP
Normal version or uh oh stinky version?
I listen to it many time, but i still cant remeber the music
same
Not gonna lie, I am so fuckin proud of myself that when you started talking about the "pseudo-tones" and how they cause pain, I was just like "no...? they don't?" and that was that.
I was pretty relieved as soon as that started and I realized I wasn't feeling anything, because I'm very prone to audio-induced headaches that last the rest of the day, and I did not need that lol.
No one asked
Same.
@@benitomussolini7436 Doesn’t matter. He was making a statement, not answering a question.
For me I legit knew he was lying because I’ve seen it before, and I still got an awful headache.
Was I the only kid that was vibing to that lavender town beat
I loved it lol but I also love being scared so
Nope, I like emotional tracks in games. And it portrays sadness and dread very well for it's time.
I did, (the let’s go) version
Not at all
You weren’t the only one
I saw the "pseudo tones" bit coming and it didn't hurt my ears, I also loved the lavender town creepy pastas. Now please give me my superior human medal
Okay but I only have one, if anyone else claims it they have to fight you for it. 🏅
🏅 thank you man I'll wear it with pride and a smug look at all times
When he starts talking about it im like "CGP grey!"
@@DarylTalksGames gets out knife
@@DarylTalksGames I felt an horrible pain in my hears when you talked about "pseudo-tones". One influenceable medal to me, one influential medal to you.
Daryl: "Here are some Psedo-Tones to listen to."
Me: *listens to tunes*
Daryl: "Haha. It's fake. There's no sounds."
Me: *ears bleeding profusely* Yeah. Such bullshit. *eyes begin to bleed*
*smiles and looks at dog*
"I told you it would work on some ppl you little naysayer"
I actually didn't feel anything so ha
@@nirgunawish bruh type normally
When your subconscious recognizes what's going on before you are, I was confused on why I heard nothing until I was told it's fake and the grey video was brought up
Geez I got a headache for a second
when I first listened to lavender town as a kid, before I knew how the internet worked, I used it to help me fall asleep.
nice
D now listen it now you will have nightmares
Y tho
because it sounded relaxing to me. Idk I was like seven
U didnt find it creepy?
When you played the "pseudo-tones" I didn't feel anything that hurt, I just slowly got more unerved and paranoid like something bad was going to happen.
same
This is like when people got scared by dihydrogen monoxide.
look its a chemical that breaks down iron and can kill you if you get to much of it in your organs and even if you stand under for as little as 10 minutes...
Can't deny the facts
@@arposkraft3616 I can't tell if this is a joke or not
@@xdkokopants2931 They are, dont worry. He's just explaining what dihydrogen monoxide does. :)
I hope aquaman doesn’t get suffocated by dihydrogen monoxide 😱
@@xdkokopants2931 The dihydrogen mono-oxide movement is in some sense a joke, as it is used here.
But behind the joke is a effective and honest critique on people who shout things like muh chemicals, natural, organic, biological etc without realising that such words are to general to describe something that is necessarily dangerous/good, it points out that what is essential to our life; water, is in fact a chemical that when put in the correct words and context can both sound and be dangerous.
It's one of the most creative memes on the internet
Lavender Town Syndrome maybe fake but the Porygon effect is real. They still dim some scenes in anime even today.
EDIT: congrats for 100k subs!
Also I heard this caused porygon and it’s evolutions to never appear in the anime again
Which is a shame because it was pikachu that cause the attack which lead to the flashing, and it could have been easily fixed by slowing down the flashing (or have the scene dimmed)
What's the porygon effect?
It isn't "Porygon effect", it triggered people's epilepsy.
OK I MAy or may not try and listen to the song *aka which I did* and WELL- I was thinking of overdose and did get headaches. and I can go and overdose myself easily because all of us in my family take meds. WARNING DONT DO IT-
[umbraNova] it’s when the screen quickly flashes red and blue repeatedly, it may cause discomfort and even epilepsy.
I remember in 5th grade I would just listen to Lavender Town on loop, my mom would get so annoyed because it actually hurt her ears. Meanwhile I was out here vibin to the song.
“This is what happens when you take my ds, mom”
"this is going to hurt"
me with terrible ear pain anyways: interesting
I wasn’t aware of the tones so I thought this video was going to be about the pink haired art CZcamsr who draws cute characters 💀💀
danica oh god me too I was very confused at first lol. But this turned out to be very interesting, so I’m not complaining
(i hate being that guy but) nice pfp of Yumemi Yumemite!!
@@liamii5603 thank you!!
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Thats the reason i clicked lol
The song gives me a feeling of: "Just keep walking, ignore the past, keep walking, keep walking...
tbh the song to me was just annoying personally if I was younger and listening to lavertown I would have a head ache too
@@gwenasearcy2463 for real. It’s 4 notes. People really over hype this. “20 people got Tourette’s from playing Pokémon lavender town hurrr”
@@gwenasearcy2463 has
@@ricardocarrillo8347 ??
Don't cut yourself with that edge cringy boy
So mostly all he said it’s just the brain causing your pain it’s like believing what your seeing or feeling
that pseudo tones thing made me smile so big lmao, i had a feeling that's what you were doing and i still almost fell for it. i fucking love shit like this, so fascinating how our brain plays with us
"Psuedo-tones" part: "This is hurting your brain"
Me (who unironically listens to harsh noise): "Jokes on you, I'm into that shit"
Anyone who's been in a middle school class in the past couple years has heard a dog whistle that's why it never bothered me.
@@silver_css3734 What the hell is going on in middle school classrooms these days lmao
@@poralium196 dumb shit. like really dumb shit.
100 gecs?
@@monicaraybrandt GEC GEC GEC GEC GEC GEC GEC GEC GEC GEC GEC GEC GEC
The pseudo tones that you claimed were playing didn't hurt my ears, however, I felt an uncomfortable intensity as if the pain I was supposed to feel transformed into it.
That’s so bizarre right? Ngl I actually felt it when I was editing and felt like a total jackass. Y U DO DIS BRAIN U JUS SAID ITS FAKE
@@DarylTalksGames It was very strange to be noceboed, usually I'm not so affected by that stuff, so it knocked me on my ass when the pressure on my ears stopped and I realized I was fooled
Same... I know I can be very suggestible sometimes, but I definitely felt the uneasy feeling, and was annoyed when I then knew it was fake. Because why would my brain think it’s actually true??
The power of suggestion is super strong for whatever reason..
@@DarylTalksGames not op but ye it was kinda weird for me too, like it didn't hurt but I was uncomfortable, or tensing up
I didn't feel anything but being nervous as I thought there would be pain but nope.i knew there would be nothing thus it doesn't hurt
My head didn’t hurt, but I did start feeling pressure when I heard the frequency.
The nocebo thing reminds me of how my friend took new meds and the doctor didn't tell her about weird side effects because he didn't want it to go to her head. So while she was taking an exam, her arm just kind of stopped working and she couldn't move it. When she looked up side effects for her medication, the arm not moving was listed and she was so pissed at her doctor
i was one of the "brave ones" that listened to lavender town when this mass hysteria was going on and my classmates were genuinely surprised i showed up the day after lmao i love the song to this day, brings back memories
Same lmao. It made a comeback in 2015 so I decided to check it out lmao.
I remember having a powerpoint presentation and showed everyone the song and the teacher got scared
I was, when it was the first time around, too young to understand englisch (Englisch isn't my native language) and our whole Class was just like "That's the best song in this game. :)".
Nobody had any issues.
@@DaroriDerEinzige Ich bin lernen Deutsch. Ist das dein... language...?
@@autisticsh1t Wieso würde jemand sich selbst das antun? :o
Und ja, es ist meine Muttersprache - Wieso?
I’m not gonna lie I got legit scared when you told me that the “sound” you played was going to hurt me and I felt betrayed. And then you revealed it and we were cool.
same lol
what is it ? edit: ouch my ears edit2 : now i have an headache edit3 : WUT THERE WAS NO FRICKING SOUNDS ????????? but WWWWWWWAAAAAAATTTTT
there was a sound. it was extremely soft and subtle, but it carried a frequency relevant to the pseudo-tones he mentioned... i honestly wasnt expecting anything to affect me but 8:24 I had to stop the video there because i felt this sensation in my brain that was similar to hearing nails on a chalkboard... but still, i could barely hear anything until i started paying close attention to the audio in my headphones... (i transcribe music by ear as a hobby, so im sharp at catching minor details in sound.) it was a very quiet, yet sharp methodic beeping which was the singular set of tones in the intro to the lavender town theme put on repeat. with the right sound editing software, its possible to suppress the easily comprehensible frequencies (the tones we hear in music) while amplifying the "other ones" that the human brain cant comprehend and often misses because it is mainly only focused on the frequencies which it can comprehend. one reason why some people here had a reaction to something they could barely catch is because the editor isolated that tone from the base track and because that is a frequency which our brains have trouble to comprehend or "math out", it causes/can cause intense discomfort and dissonance both physically and emotionally. (this also explains why some people cant tolerate the sound of heavy metal, dubstep, or classical music. we're all different.) with a bit of googling you can learn how sound affects human neurology on multiple levels, such as binaural beats. though its a bit scary, the thought of someone with enough knowledge in neurology and skill in sound editing would be able to create a weapon with nothing but a sine wave or two...now imagine being able to sharpen that frequency even further.
on another note, the reaction to the sound *was* also probably amplified due to what he was saying prior, which basically prepared our brains to feel incoming discomfort. the frequency triggered it, but the suggestion could have amplified the feeling due to the brain being notified to pay closer attention to itself.
(Edit: corrected some vocabulary and added some extra info)
i felt even worse after he revealed it
i did feel anything i heard the noise but no pain no nothing it was somewhat disappointing
Three videos in and safe to say that this is my new favorite channel. You are awesome friend!
When I played Yellow way back in the 90s, I thought I could be brave and fight the ghost head-on, like they were just another enemy. When I got there, the game didn't even acknowledge the possibility of combat. The ghost just started taunting me with words.
I screamed in terror and turned off my gameboy lmao
Didn't get the nocebo, but I was thinking "This video is about mass hysteria" from the set up. I did still feel a little on edge, so it "affected" me in that way, but I didn't think "this is pain". For more fun historical examples of mass hysteria, I encourage people to look up the actual, really happened "Dancing Plague", in which people danced to death uncontrollably in the 1500s, probably due to life stress including multiple crop failures in the region over several years.
another less exterme example comes from the book "Eleven Blue Men" where a school girl named 'Sandy'(pseudonym) feels light headed and vomits in choir practise. after she goes to the nurse more and more students get sick, then some teachers and other assistants. In the end amublances and fire trucks come after someone calls in a gas leak. but just like in the intro tale only 'Sandy' was ever really ill.
You watch Sam O'Nella, don't you?
everybody gangsta until the cats start meowing
I actually made an animated website about the dancing plague for my graduation project! You can check it out on www.dancingplague1518.com
I'm not sure where I heard the phrase "danced to death" but I believe it was a book on faeries and demons or something.
Bruh imagine involuntarily dabbing every 5 to 7 seconds.
I for one, do that on my own
Oh gosh
megan allen step up your game it’s 2020
@@ineedaespresso306 i want to go back to when dabbing was cool 2020 sucks
A true torture for those who are sane
I'll be honest, I never had any of the "symptoms" of the lavender town syndrome, but I loved (and still love) the idea behind it. Its just something about there being such an eerie idea from a children's video game that gets me. Something on the outside seeming so innocent, but hiding a dark secret.
wait when was this supposedly a big thing? i've literally never heard of it
Me neither
Were you around the internet during the early to mid 2010s? I remember it being very popular around that time. Even if you weren't too much into horror stuff, if you had watched just a single video that was slightly spooky, that "Lavender Town Syndrome" was bound to pop up in your recommendations. It was also quite the topic in forums, which is how I found it.
I feel old now
it was huge around 2010/11 but it was very niche. it was huge in its respective community but not everyone knew about it
I will admit, the first time I reached Lavender Town, I was unnerved by the music. Then, after entering the pokemon tower, I was shocked at the realization that pokemon died. It was like that moment when you are told and realize your pet is going to die someday and there is nothing you can do about it. I was days getting over that subtle trauma of that. Granted, I was about 10 and impressionable as hell.
Shady Sands was in Fallout 1 and 2.
Psedo-tones never get me, I already feel constant pain
Yes
Jokes on you, i already have that s***
for me I legit always hear a stupid high pitch sound even though it’s like probably air or something lol
blooky for me it gets louder whenever I get close to an electronic device, it’s loudest whenever I get close to a battery-powered device. I had to throw out my furby because it made me throw up on it when I was 7 cause the noise got so annoying and loud lmao.
The hidden tones never get me because I cannot hear them for some reason, I rarely hear them due to the facts that I have experienced them before and it basically just destroyed my fear of it somehow. I don’t know if that made sense...
it’s weird looking at comments saying it’s creepy... i have tics and those are normal day things
0:08 at first look we can see Ｏ ｂ ａ ｍ ａ
Funny
Obama
Funny
My uncle who works at Nintendo says that if you go to Lavender Town at 3 am, you will see hyper realistic blood
What is with people and 3am?
Probably jaystation
@@isabellalost8256 It's the devils hour, or supposedly the time that Jesus died
@@linebeckland83 Jesus did not die at 3 am, he died close to night and was placed in a tomb where he spent 3 days and in the third day he was resurrected in the morning.
This is too funny!
The lavender town theme always makes me feel really uneasy and paranoid
Same. Sometimes even today my eyes tear up for some reason when I listen to it. It's so fucking creepy. I'm not saying It's something supernatural tho. Obviously.
Really? It”s fine for me
Same
It’s always haunted me. I feel...pure dread when I hear it.
It’s fine for me when it starts but after some time it becomes uneasy for me too
I'm just in awe of your ability to psychoanalyze gaming and connect it to relevant topics and events outside of gaming in such tangible ways.
I immediately thought of CGP Grey when you did the painful sound thing and I'm so happy that reference was the intention, lol.
4:46 "Tri- Chloro- Eth- yl- ene." Just for those who want to know.
Breaking up the word really helps. 👍
I still can’t say it
@@kingreaper7928 Try kloro, Ethil Een!
How tf does one pronounce "yl"
@@_mako Google "ethylene pronunciation". Or any other word + pronunciation. It usually gets it right for english words
Wait, so you're saying humans are gullible? I don't believe it.
It says gullible on the ceiling
A littwo bird Oh yeah, it does. Aaand you’ve stolen my lungs.
Frog Got your nose!
@@luminary9930 loOK oUT he's got a nosE-
@@frog8366 do not fear! Nose man is here!
I don't even play video games but the way you involve psychological concepts is so engaging and thrilling, I'm subbed anyway.
I’ve been recommended this video for like a week now so I’m finally watching it
I was like "why aren't my ears hurting? Am I losing my hearing?" Lol
Check out “sorting algorithm sounds” lol. People in this comment section have no idea how annoying computers can be!
@@ZeranZeran Sorting algorithm sounds actually sound kinda normal to me but idk
Lmao, I thought the same thing. I was very concerned, especially since I usually have better hearing than most people-
Same here. And I was just thinking why he was including the sound and asking to wear headphones if it was so dangerous.
@@Lex60 Yeah, good point lol
It’s weird, most things don’t scare you until you truly know the backstory but the second we all heard the lavender town song....
OH BOY WE *PANICKED*
This is why Veridian city is best song fuck Lavender town bruh.
How about this pokemon theme song?
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little kid me not being scared: 😎😎😎
When you just thought it was overrated:
Ok now I'm hooked to these Psych of Play videos, I love how you go into psychology.
I have been diagnosed with FND, which used to be called Conversion Disorder. Thank you for including it in the video! I'm really happy it's becoming more well-known.
people: “this song wants me to commit death”
me: “i need to find a remix of this”
Why did you do It? You.... I'm so sorry that you didn't get the help you needed. But why did you hurt me like It? You pushed my head under the water of that lake. The first thing that l remember was the cold, wet sensation on my face. I remember how harshly you grabbed my hair to keep me underwater. I remember you kicking me in the chest. I remember you trying to strangIe me. I still have bruises on my neck. I remember watching the gray Sky over me wondering when It would end. I remember feeling my ribs breaking like glass. I remember you cutting off my ring finger with those rusty big blades. I remember you showing me my wedding ring. I remember you shooting me in my stomach. I remember you pressing your fingers in my eyes. That hurt so much. I remember you burying me. I remember trying to get out. I remember moving my arms in the cold air of the night. I remember giving up to die. I remember being here. And I remember you.
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@@lmagesandvideos8896 stop it
Watch lavender town remix by solkrieg there's 3 version of the remix(i recommend you the second version/2.0)
@@TheWorldMostCrispiestFry ok!!!!!! But you stay safe from Her
@@lmagesandvideos8896 ok
Wait a minute who is she!!!!*#&$8
Ah yes. "Commit Death." That's my favorite way of putting it. I committed death one time...
....in minecraft.
Me: Is it supposed to be playing? Hm, the noise doesnt really do anything .. wait -
*plugs in headphones just in case it affects my cats*
Aw that's actually kinda wholesome...
aw I can agree with Autumn
“we must protect the cats”
I was worried for my cats too lol. Turned it way down
@@mimiqtt yes.
man, i was obsessed with this when i was little. this feels like a nostalgia trip and i love it
I've listened to the video before and caught on to what was happening before you specifically mentioned it, but definitely felt pain this time. Which is weird because I feel like last time I didn't.
"This part is going to hurt"
*doesnt hurt*
*visable confusion*
bruh it felt like great ones from outside our realm of comprehension were tearing into my mind
Bruh i was so scared I thought that my ears were gonna start hurting like hell but nothing happend lol
I had already watched the part and I was basically yelling at myself IT DOESNT EXIST IT DOESNT EXIST
but I still got a mild headache
It wasn’t as bad but it still was uncomfortable and unlikeabe, like bleh, I hated it
I just had to sneeze lol
"Headphone users be warned, this next bit could hurt your ears"
Me: Okay, turning down my volume a bit just in case.
...and then Daryl kept going on and on about how it was going to hurt, and the more he said it, the more convinced I was that this was going to be about the nocebo effect, because it was suspicious how insistent he was about it being painful.
I didnt hear anything, but i do have a headache now
@@COLOURzen It wasn't music, it was a high-pitched tone. I could hear it, but it didn't hurt.
I did feel a building headache when you went onto this bit about pseudotones.
Then again, I had the makings of one beforehand.
I always found Lavender Town's theme disturbing because it was high pitched and hurt my ears. When I realized that the syndrome was a creepypasta I thought that was the main reason people would fall for it.
So, at the "pseudo-tones" part there was some quiet game music playing, but there was also a very obvious obnoxious (but not outright painful) high-pitched noise playing, both of which got increasingly louder as the timer went on. So, although there's no such thing as "pseudo-tones" there was definitely an annoying high-pitched tone playing, which I find it interesting no one seems to have commented on.
Right? I still feel kinda tingly and discomfort from it. I can't tell if I'm just being a little bitch or not, but it felt very real. Crazy stuff.
My ears started ringing, dont know if other people found that
Yeah! When he started playing that my eyes started constantly going in and out of focus, then again i was in focusing super hard the second he played it so it could just be my own brain :/
@@IsiahM I am 24, my good sir. Honestly, i coulda jest felt the placebo effect kicking in though. I don't know.
@@MickeyYeahbaby if it’s a bad effect happening, it’s the nocebo effect^^
When I first heard of Lavender Town Syndrome, I got so scared. Not because of the actual song itself, but because of the rumours. I thought listening to it would make me kill myself. Whenever I heard it in the background of a video I immediately clicked off. I had heard it before and while it made me feel a bit uncomfortable but only a little bit. It didn't bother me.
I'm fine with Lavender Town again now.
i remember stumbling upon the time and my brother started panicking and had me close my ears when it played. good times
It turned into an animation meme song wtf
Same but it would keep me awake whenever it would pop in my head during night
@@itzelneptune Oh god it would keep me awake too
when you were talking about pseudo sounds, my jaw started feeling heavy, and my heart beat so fast that i felt it. freaky.
and I lost my focus reading comments and noticed nothing. the brain is so interesting
Uh definitely get a second or third opinion on any future diagnosis lmfaooo
09:10 holy jesus, I did experience some discomfort when you start the timer so I had to take the headphones off and I was fascinated when you said, there is nothing actually to cause you pain. F*ck...
I thought u were going to talk about the art youtuber Lavender Towne lol
same lmao
Same xD
agreement. lavendertowne is yes lavender town is no
Sameeeeeeeeee
Same lol
I'll take my superior human medal pls
Sorry man, already claimed by Uberransy. You gotta fight him to the death for it. I don't make the rules.
Wait it says the video was uploaded 5 days ago how the fuck did you comment 6 days ago?!
Cant... press... the like... BUTTON!
When you were talking about pseudo-tones, I was like, "Daryl, that ringing is just my tinnitus."
I feel like the le roy situation was a stress induced "mass psychogenic illness", like the one town that couldn't stop laughing
Kind of reminds me of the story of the town that couldn't stop dancing back in the middle ages.
The dancing plague of 1518. It is very interesting.
Man, this is a blast from the past. I remember this being one of the stories that got me deep into creepypasta stuff when I was younger, and even tho I knew it was fake, it still effects me - I don't get headaches, but it does give me some strong physical discomfort if I listen to it for too long. It's crazy how much power just the suggestion that something can affect you ends up, well, affect you, lol.
And congrats on 100k, man! It's well deserved!
It’s one of a kind man, a ghost story with a virtual monument you can go visit and experience for yourself. I still hate listening to it myself haha. Thanks so much Traven! ❤️
I wonder if someone convinced viewers that they can fly just by listening to a tune.
... hmm... this is like 40K ork science.
My earbud was creating pressure in my head during the pseudotones bit and I got scared. Incredible video man, loved it.
No pain, had no idea where you were going with it. I liked the "pseudo-tone" noise quite a bit!
Moral of the story:
THEY'RE PUTTIN CHEMICALS IN THE WATER TO TURN THE FRIGGIN FROGS GAY!!!
I feel like this is a reference
@@Knightros it is czcams.com/video/9JRLCBb7qK8/video.html
Yo when I was like 8 a friend of mine said he was gonna listen to lavender town and I was genuinely scared he wouldn't show up to school the next day
Big lol
what a madlad
Him: shout out to all the meerkats that watch the show
Me: *waves four toed foot* yoooo, finally some recognition
I remember thinking this was so real in middle school. My friends and I were obsessed with it. We went out of our way to give ourselves headaches and listen to the music as loud as possible...I remember being legitimately afraid of suddenly killing myself. Good times.
Those “Pseudo-Tones” you played made me wonder how much the subconscious plays a part in these effects. I expected the tones to at least be uncomfortable to listen to or hurt my ears like you had stated, but that didn’t happen. In fact, it felt more like my chest was tensing up and then releasing the tension with a wave of heat and tingling. Even if I believed that my ears would hurt, I never thought that I would feel anything like that. It wasn’t even painful. It was just weird. I do wonder if high pitch tones can still have an affect on the body even if pseudo tones don’t actually exist, given that a high pitch tone was indeed playing in the background. If I didn’t have sensory issues I would honestly study this myself
I had to take off my headphones when the fake “sudo-tone” and now I’m mad for falling for it
What's that? I'm watching with headphones and am now somewhat terrified.
It made me headache
Same, on one side I’m mad for falling for it but on the other I’m just fascinated that it worked so easily, I kind of want to show it to everyone I know just to see their reaction
idk why im vibing with it
@@tiffany-up2ii did it now?
This made me think that people that claim to have difficulty breathing when wearing facemasks might have those symptoms for similar reasons.
Oh. That's an interesting point. I would've never thought of it.
I myself have no problem breathing with a face mask, but it does get uncomfortably hot in there.
Yes, it's psychological. I thought at first too, but I realized I would have to cope with it anyways so then poof gone where what I thought were consequences of wearing a face mask. The worst is that you tell other people this that they are not breathing correctly (they are usually hyperventilating, or breathing too much with their mouths) and that's why they think they have symptons. When they don't. If you breathe through your nose correctly and you stop believing that then you won't have anything.
i remember walking about the local grocery store just fine with a mask on for upwards of like 10 minutes, but the second i start thinking about breathing it becomes hard and my nose gets itchy, etc etc. it's pretty ridiculous that you can do something just fine but as soon as you realize you're doing it, you're now breathing and swallowing manually.
tomatofish yea sometimes I just walk then I think about the way I walk and I just freeze and it disturbs me so much
As someone who gets nose bleeds easily, I always got fooled by this song. I thought that other peoples noses started bleeding hearing the song but not many people do. The doctors told me that frequencies can also cause my nose to bleed, its weird and I believe thats a reason that the rumor started. Possibly someone who's nose started bleeding because that was a common one. So?? Idk if I made sense but yeah pretty crazy
yay...... I love your sense of humor this is the first video I've seen of yours and I immediately subscribed!!!!!
It really comes down to "we want to happen" we need to add some sort of meaning to everything. we pin a horrifying reason onto why this loud and high-pitched chiptune song gives us a headache, rather than accept the fact that it might just be because the original lavender town theme is loud, high-pitched and annoying, especially since the volume button was so hard to find on the original gameboy.
it was a scroll wheel, not a button, and I never had trouble finding it :)
"here is the problem,you are a gamer" this is the words we here when every crisis happen
Dude learn how to spell before you talk shit it’s hear
@@jorgebaez9450 ok. You sarcasmed me. You achieved your life goals you happy now?
This is just an excellent video. I personally find this subject fascinating because of the psychology behind it and also the fact that I was 100% the right age to be super creeped out by all that Lavender Town Syndrome stuff in the early-mid 2010s. The points and research and humor in this video are super on point; really well done.
8:05 I heard the Extreme weather theme from Ruby/Sapphire and as you were mentioning i should be experiencing pain in my ear drums I was instead feeling a slight pressure in my nose
I love how this came out right when I listened to the theme yesterday.
OwO Bot ftw
hi OwObot
Boo!
Thanks for talking about this ‼
I was diagnosed with conversion disorder and PNES (psychogenic non epileptic seizures) . My neurologists say that they stem from extreme stress due to my chronic ptsd causing flashbacks and night terrors , panic disorder causing panic attacks and being on the autistic spectrum causing high sensitivity to stimuli etc.
● After years of suffering from seemingly random partial and grand mal seizures I got answers. The symptoms were so debilitating , they made it impossible for me to; attend school, work, and made me even more fearful than I was already to leave my house. in general. The only way the doctors could give a solid diagnosis , was after I completed a 48-84 hour seizure and sleep study.
● If anyone is having seizure symptoms I'd highly recommend that test, because many seizure conditions cannot be read by a simple EEG machine, unlike epileptic seizures, and they are not allowed to diagnose anything non epileptic without that specific type of testing. The study was certainly not super comfortable since they induce seizures by any means necessary, but I'm so glad I did it because the info has proven to be valuable to me finding any kind of relief .
Sorry this is so long, I ramble and this really is a huge part of my life and wanted to share any info I have about it to help others who may be interested or suffering. ❤
Interesting.. I was diagnosed with CPSTD as an adult from severe abuse when I was a kid and I had petite Mal seizures when I was still young and hadn't come out with what happened yet. I'm curious why it causes very real issues in our brains like this. Imma go dig around in science but have you been told why yet?
I've read that elevated adrenaline can cause non epileptic seizures. I also know that stimulant drugs can cause seizures as well, so it follows that with PTSD, a trigger that induces high stress hormones could have a role in causing seizures.
Have you ever read a book called The Body Keeps the Score? It talks about how PTSD physically affects your body. I haven't read it personally (waiting on the library) but I've had it recommended to me by other people with PTSD.
Hey there! Delayed response, but for reference, you actually can have a diagnosis of nonepileptic spells or conversion disorder without significant testing. Currently, the clinical diagnosis of these conditions can actually be satisfied by the presence of positive symptoms (that is the presence of symptoms) that are non-pathologic. The idea that non-epileptic events and conversion require ruling out other conditions has been pushed out of favor in recent years. That said, often times we will get additional tests because our patients (and some doctors tbh) would feel more comfortable with the confirmation, which is reasonable. There's sort of an art to the diagnosis and importantly the discussion of these kinds of conditions.
@@tropezando That makes a lot of sense about the elevated adrenaline and stress hormones ! I have "hot flashes" that are not at all "flashes"😑💨 (they can last around 5-10 hours) and when I've done very general bloodwork, my hormone levels come back normal. Its awful and so frustrating because I'm talking *hot* like POURING constant drops of sweat from my head mainly . It's become pretty bad and hard to deal with especially when I have to go out. It started to get even worse after I had my second child. More of a reason why I think its all hormonal. 🤷♀️
Makes sense about stimulants too, that's why I can't even drink much coffee in a day without feeling super jumpy! 😆
When I got my seizure testing done, before the actual study began, I went thru a lot of other tests. One of which was a reflex test. When the nurse first struck my knee, she jumped back and said "wow you have very strong reflexes! I've never seen someone respond like you! " 🤭 I am admittedly very jumpy and so many noises and triggers make my heart feel like it gets jolted by ⚡lightning . I often say my body feels like there is an underlying electric current going thru it. In my history, Only sedating prescriptions like; benzodiazapines, muscle relaxers, and sedating pain medications have helped bring that feeling down. However, the side effects from most of those medications have been too much for me and I end up asking to be taken off them. Not sure what to do about it presently tbh.
Oh and YES I HAVE heard of that book a while ago. I haven't read it yet, I had forgotten about it! Thank u for reminding me! ☺👍
@@grodon909 oh wow, thank you for the response! I realize, I had the conversion disorder diagnosis beforehand but got the PNES diagnosis afterwards. That makes sense that sometimes they just want to get some more information and recorded evidence of the episodes , but don't need it to give a diagnosis everytime. I was lucky enough that my mother could watch my kids at that time, otherwise I don't know how I would've been able to stay there so long!
When that part with the psuedo tones or whatever they were called was playing. I swear I felt a tingling sensation in my ears that made my brain feel so weird.
when those "pseudo tones" started playing i just thought to myself "jokes on you i have tinnitus"
Watched laurenzside today & I was confused when she said "I'm scared of lavender town " because I'd never heard of this so I thought she was scared of the CZcams channel lavender Towne lol
Lol
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@@yikes5880 ur name is very true
@@bourbonbiscuits8729 thank you
I didnt even have headphones on and the "tone" began to hurt my ears and make me dizzy. Realizing it was all in my head blew me away.
What if it wasn't all in your head? 🧐
I mean in my case it was just noticing the chronic ear pain I already live with...
No it didn’t lol.
@@ZeranZeran I can testify that, on my honor, that shit hurt my head. Legitimately made my head and ears hurt.
@@ZeranZeran yes it did for some people. myself included
When i first heard Lavender Town, i had no clue about all these creepy pastas, but it used to, and still does, make me wanna throw up so you'd think i just don't listen to it but for some reason i really wanna listen to it, like an addiction and every time i do it makes me wanna throw up.
I recognized it from the CGP Grey video AND I realized where you were going with it based on what you had just said
Used to think this song was creepy but now whenever I think about it I hear the uh oh stinky version😂😂😂
I always hear "Klink Klang Klinklang"
Monke
I never knew this existed, but just by reading this comment I can imagine what it sounds like. This makes me very angry.
Christopher Galluzzo oh god me too 🤣
Uh. Oh. Stink-y
Uh. Oh. Stink-y
UHHHHH
OHHHHH
UH OH STINKY OHHHH
Me: listening to the nocebo sound section
My tinnitus: Jokes on you, I already have high pitched and faintly audible sounds on the edge of my hearing 24/7!
Same with me. It sucks so much :(
It only really happens to me in absolute silence. Still, it's absolutely maddening and I have to make noises myself to stop it. Take care of your hearing, kids.
Wait, is it not normal to have slight high-pitched tones in your head when it's quiet?
@@boxcarz I don't think so, at least from the lookin' that I've done on the internet. If it ain't well I still have tinitus.
Dya Volo i have that too, ive just had it for so long it seems normal lmao. i didnt know it was called that lmao
I heard about the Lavender Town Syndrome cases probably in my teens, and, thank goodness, I was somehow savvy enough to think, "The backlash to Pokemon was everywhere when I was a kid. No way something like this would have escaped notice."
Now that didn't stop me from losing sleep when I got into creepypasta a little later. I didn't think any of those were actually true, at least on a rational level, but I definitely had moments I didn't want to open doors in the dark for fear of what may lurk behind. And those Lavender Town pastas really were creepy, though it was actually the Pokemon Tower music I found most eerie.
Wow that pseudotone thing is crazy. Whenever you were saying that it was playing, it wasn’t hurting but there was a noticeable but quiet ringing in my ear, and then the second you said it was fake, it stopped. Crazy cool shit
I thought this was about “LavenderTowne” the CZcamsr-
Same I was so confused
Me too I was like "oh no"
YES ME TOO
Lol same
You're not alone
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Nah, with all seriousness amazing video again dude. I loved how you touched upon how we humans start to believe things just because we have heard it told to us so many times and how we try to figure things out of theories and other things like that!
Lmao thanks as always Aaron. As amazing as the brain is, it’s still shockingly faulty at times 🤷🏻
@@DarylTalksGames I don't think it's the brain at fault here, it's the mind - our consciousness. Has anyone ever tried to nocebo some animals? Bet you 20 Platinum Trophies that it's impossible.
It's because we think too hard about shit that we get fooled by mere illusions.
@@bingo784 nocebo depends on social assumptions (i.e. if a doctor says that something's gonna hurt, you'll probably believe it) so testing it on animals is kinda hard
They had us in the first half not gonna lie
I can report having experienced something similar in 2020 regarding stress manifesting as oddly specific symptoms. In November, I had a court case coming up (a lawsuit over a *very minor* car accident that was being handled by my insurance company. I hadn't heard from my lawyer in months, contacted them only to find my case had been transferred to a different law firm due to high case loads at the first one...all in all, despite the fact that it was a frivolous lawsuit for which I had insurance that would cover any conceivable payment I would have to make, it was stressing me the hell out. I was also waiting on a CT scan that I was going to get the week after the court case to check on a thing that had a very slight possibility of being cancer (it wasn't, but my mind was building up the logic of "they wouldn't check if they didn't think it wasn't serious enough to be worth checking" into "oh god I definitely have cancer"). Add that to already high background stress levels from the ongoing pandemic, and....yeah.
I have asthma, so one of the things I've been doing during the pandemic is taking my temperature every few days. It can be hard to tell the difference between my asthma being touchy and a dry cough from a cold - at least until it intensifies or other symptoms start showing up - whereas you can't fake a fever. Except, apparently, when you're super stressed out, because my temperature that Friday night when things were getting really bad stress-wise was 38.5 (101.3 for you Americans). Not critically life threatening, but definitely a fever. Next day, I had pretty severe coughing fits - more than can be attributed to my asthma when I'm on my meds and not exposing myself to chemicals while exercising or otherwise similarly antagonizing that condition. By Monday, I was feeling most of the symptoms on the list for Covid. So I called in, got myself a test booked, and take the test on Tuesday. On Wednesday, I get a message saying it came back negative, and I also get a message from my new lawyers saying "we've reached a settlement and this matter is closed." Stress relieved (at least partially) and all those symptoms vanish pretty much instantly.
I've never been gotten by the hypersound example for nocebo effect, but I attribute that more to my being educated enough in how human hearing works that when I was first exposed to it (through CGPGrey's video), it tripped my BS-meter and made me instantly suspicious that Grey was trying something. I'd seen enough of his videos by then to know that he can be cagey like that. But yeah, the "fake" symptoms thing is definitely a real stress response.
The Le Roy event makes me think about the anime Paranoia Agent.
YES YES YES TH I S--
In the pseudo-tones part my arms started tingling as soon as the timer started. I was immediately like "woah okay i don't know if I can watch anymore." I decided to watch a little more and it started getting worse. I got a very slight headache but then... he said it wasn't real. I laughed to myself as my headache dissapeared.
I saw this right as it started and my arms also started tingling and when I looked down all my hairs were standing on end 😂
You know what's way more unsettiling than any creepypasta?
The "illusionary truth" effect and it's implications in the context of political discourse, public narrative and child upbringing/education...
I mean, that's essentially what gaslighting is, isn't it?
Damn I never knew about lavender town music syndrome stuff but when I listen to that kind of music from games like Omori, my mind kind of zeroes in and becomes really numb, clouded and delirious. I really don't know why this happens except to say music is powerful. So are creepy pastas apparently
I always liked the lavender town song and remember sitting in the town listening to the town’s theme long before the rumours of it causing headaches.
I didn’t fall for the rumours but it sparked a fascination with internet urban legends, creepypastas, and eventually horror as a genre.