The US Military's Aerial Refueling PROBLEM
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0:00 How long can a fighter jet fly for without aerial refueling?
2:33 Why was the flying boom developed?
3:44 KC-97 Stratofreighter's major flaw
4:51 Aerial refueling from a KC-135 Stratotanker
7:32 why aircraft have a refueling slipway
8:19 War Thunder (sponsor)
9:16 Refueling stealth aircraft in the air
10:29 What happens if aerial refueling boom or hose cannot be retracted
10:49 The downside of the KC-135 Stratotanker
11:04 The Boom Drogue Adapter (BDA)
12:05 The limitations of the Boom Drogue Adapter
Why the US Navy uses its most sophisticated fighter jets fuel other aircraft, how aerial refueling can help airplanes save on fuel and carry more payload, what made the F-4 Phantom notoriously difficult to mate with, and finally, how using a slower fuel transfer method can in fact speed up the refueling process, is #NotWhatYouThink #NWYT #longs
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Vid about Gajin sponsors Donbas seperatists? @@LaggySoupDealer
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Best segue ever
war thunder is a game from the russian devs
"A boomer, laying on their belly, passing gas." - Not What You Think
Kid: Dad. What are those two planes doing together?
Dad: They are mating son
😂😂
I definitely read the dad in a Hank Hill voice
That's how airplanes are made, son
Btw I did see 3 planes in serial formation drogue formation.
@@Michael_Brocksometimes planes experiment with other planes son to keep the “fire” going
I Laughed out loud when u inserted the warthunder sponsor after the hourly price of the simulator
Either losing money to refuel those jet, of losing to the snail 😂
Warthunder needs a mod to practice in air refueling !!!
I actually agree @@z0phi3l
@@z0phi3l vtol vr does... as the craft being refueled
If the “birdie” is old, bent or slightly damaged the damn thing will often oscillate in a figure eight pattern requiring the Naval Pilot to split the difference and aim for where it will be when he gets there.
9:54 I thought that was a still image!!
Yeah I know!
Now thanks to this video I can never look at aerial refueling the same way again
That thumbnail reminds me of my first *"aerial refueling"* in middle school history. Thanks Miss Blom! You'll always be twenty-two in my dreams.
😋 22?????
AYO??
Middle School?? 💀💀
what
Sex bots really like videos on military Aviation, Who would have thought
It's all the aerial mating. Really gets them going.
Extra kinky
😂
what is a sex bot?
lmao "Incase a tanker gets too excited and cannot retract the boom....." - NWYT
NWYT? more like NSFW
"If your boom extension lasts longer than 4 hours, seek medical attention."
@@SwordOfApollo BRO WHATS THE TIMESTAMP HAHA
Too bad the KC-46 can't do half of what it is designed for because Boeing used the wrong kind of (black and white) camera on them. Should have bought the MRTT instead, which is just better in every way, not to mention that is actually works.
"It's a game changer" because the camera fogs up half the time.
Thank you for a MOST comprehensive overview of the aerial refueling subject! As usual, your vids lead to a greater understanding of aviation and various systems. Plz keep up the GREAT WORK!!
Super informative video! It’s amazing to understand just how critical in-flight refueling is for maintaining the operational range and effectiveness of fighter jets. Your breakdown of the process and its importance was perfectly clear. Thanks for shedding light on such a pivotal aspect of modern air combat!
Thanks, this was a great deal more informative than I thought it would be. Learned quite a bit.
9:55 Woahh O.O *that* was a video :o
Thanks for pointing it😂
was thinking the same thing lol
30mins trying to stable 2 aircraft for refueling is just insane work 🤯
yea i couldnt mate for 30 mins either
@@unironicaluser1867 I can go for like an hour.
@@johnsmithe4656wtf
Gasped at 19:14 seeing that NATO AWACS almost bump into the tanker!
Always great videos! BTW, in 'scarce' and 'scarcity', the first syllable sounds like 'scare', rather than 'scar'. ♥😻
Fantastic video! Answered all the questions I had about tankers.
For the past 100 years air-to-air refuelling has been the exclusive preserve of military aviation to project power across the globe
Yummy.
While inflight refueling saves gas, I very much doubt it saves money. An airline: -) Must buy and maintain a fleet of tankers, as well as train boom operators.
-) The pilots of the passenger/freighter aircraft have to be trained/qualified for inflight docking
-) Airports en route would have to be schedule for the possibility of an unscheduled landing because weather, malfunctions, etc, prevented the inflight refueling.
-) Here's the kicker......LIABILITY...Imagine weather or operator error causing a collision, killing hundreds and the loss of two aircraft.
I remember how hard was trying to refuel in-flight my F-14 Tomcat.... (in the NES version of Top Gun).
hey, i've been to that KC-97. it's at March Field, they also have a YA-9 there.
I lost count of the number of ARs I've done. One time, over Maine on our way to a deployment, we disconnected from the KC-135 about 6-9 times because our orbit was over a thunderstorm and we couldn't maintain contact. Quite literally the most stressful AR ever.
Always instructive and fun !
At 21:46 there is an omega aircraft refueling a drone. In the mid 1990's I designed the 707 fuel system modifications for the 1st Omega Tanker. Omega contracted AEL/Tracor to modify one of there 707 Aircraft to be a hose and drogue tanker. The fuel system modifications installed two large Aerial Refueling pumps in the wing belly tanks. These pumps were connected with 4 inch diameter fuel lines to 2 removable pallets. Each pallet contained an FR300 hydraulic hose reel systems. These pallets where part of the B-kit and were designed to be removed from the aircraft in about an hour. With a removable Air Refueling B-Kit the Aircraft could perform either civilien or aerial refueling missions. The Aircraft had two hose reels for redundancy so that ocean crossing could be performed safely with only one tanker. It could deliver over 500 gallons per minute which was the highest flow rate for a 2 5/8 inch Inner Diameter Hose and Drogue system at the time. I have not kept up with what improvements were made to the Omega system over the years. It would be interesting to see how they are using it today.
Damn, NWYT has that Big Altima Energy
Another thing with drogue refuelling is sometimes the drogue can shear off, leaving it attached to the receiver aircraft. Which made their landing interesting when it still had the basket and a few meters of pipe attached.
We’ve also experienced the drogue wafting around in turbulence and hitting the pitot probes, causing the receiver aircraft to abort.
Having said that, the drogue method has been used for decades on 1000s of sorties.
I remember reading the book Flight Of The Intruder, which said A-6’s fitted with a buddy refuelling pod were crucial to helping those who struggled to land on an aircraft carrier. If they struggled to get down and did many bolters, they’d send up the standby refueller to save them before they ran out of fuel.
Well-organized and clearly presented
We thought we already knew the "basics", until we saw this video.
Man i love watching your videos. It seems like forever waiting for a new video to drop. I start going through dt convulsions and stuff. 😂😂😂😂
Does beg the question: Why is the KC-10 *retiring* while the older design KC-135 *still flying*?!
I wondering too, why retired the best of the best among the best that proven the best already
The D/KC-10 has a rather poor safety history.
Apparently, it's a numbers game. Retiring the 60 KC-10 is cheaper in the long run than splitting the number between the two airframes. Which kind of makes sense.
It has nothing to do with safety. I flew on the 10 as a boom for years. It’s a game of averages and numbers. The AF brass determined that the average offload was ~63k lbs. Which is well within the 135 and 46 capabilities. They decided more aircraft was better rather than more capabilities.
the 135 is the only option to refuel helicopters, the jet powered options wind up at or barely above stall speed if they try to refuel a helicopter.
From what I've heard about the KC-46, when the receiver is backlit, meaning the sun is close to being directly being the receiver, the digital camera's have an issue with even seeing the receiver aircraft, let alone where the boom needs to be flown into. (In my experience, in life, not anything related to this, the mark 1 usually has an advantage over tech. Meaning the eyeball in the rear vs. the camera provided image in the front.)
that ad transistion was mint
Funny how War Thunder teaches how vital fuel management is in a modern, afterburning fighter. IE, the F-14 GUZZLES fuel at full A/B.
Everything guzzles fuel in full A/B
@@counterfit5 there's guzzling fuel, and then there's dumping the whole tank into the engine. F-14 is the latter
great vid !
i would love to know what all those markings on the planes mean like the one in 7:04 for the slip
0:56 i bet that took you a couple tries to say with a straight voice 😂 Peak humor right there
Hehe you’re not wrong there 😅
That BOOM ENGAGED indicator light would be awesome for a sound engineering board
I have been wondering what that rotating hatch on B2 were. Finally I know!
ever tried air to air refuelling on DCS world... it took me more than 45 minutes
Good one. Flares!
Crown royal bag for a chin pad is a nice touch
I always thought this was the most boring part of aviation…. And you made it fascinating ! Thank you 🙏 It’s not what you think!
Digging the Crown Royal chin rest
Love your video quality and content
8:15 Okay, that was the smoothest ad transition I have seen ever, you deserve every cent of ad money for that and this is not something I say often
Either Losing dollar to refueling or to those pesky snail😂
Hahaha, Crown Royal bag for the chin rest @5:11
the Air Force was short sighted when it did start equipping all KC 135 tankers with MPRS when they became available. I had to install many drogue adapters in my career as a crew chief.
Awesome video
Very cool. What about how they match speeds?
VFA-115 here during the period mentioned. I can say that refueling missions weren't the favorite. They were very long missions just for the pilot to be a flying gas station. Unlike those big AF tankers, the Super Hornets aren't as comfortable either. It isn't like the pilot could stand up to take a leak. But don't get me wrong because they can, just not standing up. 😂
7:25 : I don't want to know how much shooting flares for fun is costing the taxpayer
The bots kinda love military refueling i guess not gonna judge them i also enjoy whatching planes refuel
F-15EX can fly from US to UK without mid-air refueling. At 45 minutes the pilot must have been for an F-16.
It’s quite standardized, US Air Force - Boom; Navy/USMC - drogue, ALL helicopters - drogue. The US military is represented by multiple branches with different needs; a one size fits all approach sometimes isn’t the best for all.
That name is not a mistake. F-1SEX
I think they talking about combat conditions
Slight title mistake. I think it should be Standardized not Standardize ( If he changes title ignore comment)
He has an accent I think. In 2x it sounded correct
You are correct. Grammatically, it should be "standardized".
Grammar MP
@@muhazreenl actually agree with you.
When a tanker loves a B-2 bomber very much... and that is how F-16's are born.
I can't imagine what just the pivot on that adapter costs. I bet the cost of the adapter is high, but that knuckle probably accounts for more than half of that cost.
It’s a good one !!
Very interesting
The KC-46's new system is anything but good. Maybe one day.
Wouldn't the C-2's be better refueling planes for carriers than F-18's? They would have much larger fuel capacity, and could carry extra fuel bags in their cargo bay. Also, they're turboprops, so they could probably go slow enough to refuel any helicopters or tiltrotors in the carrier's fleet. And you wouldn't need to procure new fuel drones, just use what you already have in a different way.
C-2 is propeller aircraft, it's too slow for refueling fighter jets.
The C2 is being phased out for the Osprey. They do have a setup for refueling from the Osprey but jet refueling is limited by minimum flight speed.
@@czaja995 if the KC-130 isn't too slow, then it's not clear why the C-2 would be too slow.
It's wild how the B-2 refueling door just disappears into the fuselage skin when closed.
I will as hoping to see the Sea King chopping off its own probe, and there it is at 19:41
The Embraer KC-390 may fill that gap...
I thought I remembered your voice on the previous vid I just watched. 👍 - 👍
7:00 why don't they set up a system where after the boom is engaged both the aircraft get controlled by the pilot of the tanker(with difference in sensitivities ofc) would that not help?
You've heard of two trucks... Now get ready for two planes
Here we are, listening damn jokes from my boy
2:53 - Im guessing some Navy pilots also need more flight/seat time to their name so it looks better on paper should they want to transfer elsewhere within the military or outside of it as maybe a civilian pilot etc etc.
He really likes mentioning the iron dome project in every video
I did not see that War Thunder promo coming 😂
How do the dtogue actually hook onto the probes?
the title literally changed while i was watching wtf when i started watching it was " why the us airforce has two refueling methods " and when i clicked off its now " how aerial gas stations work "
I actually genuinely agree with you.
You knew what you were doing with that thumbnail.
This cone needs to have its own stabilizing wings
The hard part when fighting a near peer foe will be the protection of tankers. The new steathy drone tankers should help though.
That was a perfect add intro. I have pain thunder I play my ace p61 from time to time. Do you know the reason for flares after refueling? Is it just a sex joke?
"it's okay if you can't get it up Mr plane, it happens to all of us as we get older"
Must be harrowing to have that big hose waving around in your face, knowing it could erupt and spray at any moment
magnet to help with linking?
I'm loving the "sex puns" and fart jokes 😂 (passing gas)😂
I think that boom is better for bigger aircraft and probe and drogue for the smaller aircraft like a fighter.
after seeing the notification I knew the original title and thumbnail were going to be changed quickly 😂😂
Damn I kinda ignored this video but after the change in title and thumbnail it worked insanely well LMFAO
17:48 Tell me that beard isn't within 35.10. What happened to my Air Force?????
10:22 Correct me if i am wrong, but is that not a F-35B?
"Don't let the hose fool you" - Not what you think
And airbus boom can refuel automatically
What happened at 19:10? Did the plane hit sudden turbulence for it to rise or something else.. Did nato released details about the cause?
Look this up on CZcams:
“Aerial refueling accidents examined”
We discuss the E-3 early on in the video.
I swear this guy is my CIA agent. every time I think of something that's interesting he makes a video about it.
Those probe-and-drogue mishaps are quite spectacular! And i would not be chill flying through the fuel spray in my combat jet with 400° EGT and whatever static electricity build-up on my aircraft's skin! (Yes i know jet fuel is acktchually hard to ignite)
I was about to acktchually
1:44 but the new Air Force One is not going to be capable of in-flight refueling
Lol. Anyone else notice that all the chin rests used by the Boom Pilots are all covered with Crown Royal bags? Lol!
How many times have you changed the thumbnail by now?
10:29 woah
How about we design fighter jets to hold the fuel they need at takeoff? Make areal refueling a less common thing. What is the difference in cost of a gallon of fuel on the ground, vs at 30,000 ft?
That was exactly what I thunk.😁
the thing that trips me up the most is that these things are called booms
19:41 Oops
Yes, war thunder that's a worthy sponsorship
You talk about the Falklands war, I suspect that there will be another one soon.
Don't let the hose fool you.😂