UG was higher is higher then all the others. He is speaking from a place beyond desires, beyond sex, beyond all wanting and needing. He is beyond god, beyond all knowing. That’s why he is going on explaining the nature of the way things are. How there is nothing. Lol He is limited by words and those listening are limited by their senses. Lol He said that his anger is just energy and I get that. It comes out as a force. :) I never understood him. I’m starting to get him now. Even after Enlightenment - most of these people are not fully realised. One with the supreme. They have shadows and they work them out. Not all of them have the same capability or capacity. I applaud UG for calling them out.
There are more half baked wisemen then there are fully realised beings. They will mess you up. Utilize a sincere seeker to advance in their own path. UG spoke truth.
You can de-condition yourself to a certain extent. The best most people can do is realise what their conditioning is, where it comes from, and let go of the conditioning that makes life harder. People generally can't do this with everything of course, and nor would they survive if they did. But I personally find deconditioning some stuff helpful.
One must replace their old conditioning with a new conditioning. To be in between is highly uncomfortable and you are not able to function in society living in intense conflict and not knowing or knowing.
There is a such thing between compulsive reaction and consciously responding, compulsively reacting is a reaction based off of what the other is coming at you with but a conscious response is coming from how you want to respond from your true expression because what we find is that when one for example reacts back to someone's anger and we end up losing our cool we certainly end up in regret simply for losing our cool because we did not intend to truly respond that way and we find that by keeping our composure by keeping our sense of ease we can respond in a much better healthier way that leaves us feeling at ease and happy with ourselves, that we determine how we will experience whatever interaction with others or with circumstances and not the other way around
If he's right, the first brain transplant patient will have an incredible experience! They would have gone out with one set of conditioning and come alive in an entirely different reality- the shock alone could kill such a person!
The only thing you can actually do with your get-together's with U.G. is greet and say goodbye. In between that, all you can really do is sit with him and just smile, look around, breathe, in and out, close your eyes, head nod and call it a day. Because there's actually nothing to get, nothing to change. If you come to him with your little human thoughts, wanting this and that, you are screwed lol.
This is one of the clearest explanations of his ideas I have heard thus far. Makes me wonder again if maybe he did find something figure something out that most of us are blind to. I'm drawn to him like few other, his brutal honesty, his relentless insistence that we are listing delusion. A fallible human being that has seen depths billions are too afraid or to uninterested to explore. And why should they? Let them go about their short, animalistic, fantasy-driven lives where humans in general and the individual in particular is the centre of all creation. You nor I will stop them anyway. A few of them may fall into this way of thinking, but it's not superior. Edit: woke up this morning to see a notification from J. Krishnamurti claiming the very thing U.G. came to reject: czcams.com/video/xC7ZtUdS46A/video.html
your knowing mechanism is all that you are, when its not present, u have no way of saying, knowing anything. that is the natural state but it cannot be said as saying is within the domain of having known it before. so trying is a waste of time. basic navigation thru this society is all that we can do. the body knows nothing, not even death. this i cant say though, UG says so.
@@daithiocinnsealach1982 How about this You can't separate the response from the stimulus. The value system put into us is interfering into each response of the body to the present situation and trying to fit the body's response into the value that is once again put into us (memory). All along our lives repeating the values has fortified the memory and hence has created a secondary thought movement parallel but interfering to the primary body's thought movement (unitary stimulus response movement). So any word even the most basic verbs adverbs adjectives are nothing but part of the value system let alone the degree quality have havenots right and wrongs. It's like if we do something that disturbs the natural rhythm of the body because the body does something and doesn't do anything and it's a random set of frames that happens but the demand to do is forcing it to keep doing all the time and that is the secondary movement.
There is no such thing as understanding. The body records everything it encounters and functions only moment to moment without any anticipation of the next moment. It's the value system including the most basic feeling of "I" that has been put into us and fortified by us runs as a secondary process super imposing, interfering and trying to fit the response to the value and demanding the permanence of the response. But the body doesnt know any of this apart from acting moment to moment. There is no knowing actually. We all are victims of our value system that separates and demands the permanence of our body's response to fit to our values. But in reality it can't be separated and made to last as it's a unitary movement
We are not ready to lose our values as it has been fortified so strongly including the basic "I" and relationships. So by seeking answers we are only fortifying it once again and replacing one values with another. So the whole question of 'so what' or "what to do" is baseless and just the continuity of that values which keep demanding the continuity of body's response to fit into the values
I know ug is right but some people need a method of praying or meditation so even for little glimpse people would understand what he is talking about . He is right that you cannot another replace but if you have a understanding it will help you to stay on a right path that’s it . All the methods save us from going to bad path but normal people don’t have a so much bad or negative desires .
amazing. also, those who really miss UG-without replacing him Ramesam Vemuri has excellent series-he is UG' fellow Telugu national and very very much correct-and best of all he is generally available in real time
No such thing(?) as SILENCE. MIND in SILENCE, when no thoughts prevail is not conditioned by anything or bound to anything.When both speech silence and thought silence prevails only SILENT AWARENESS OR WITNESS prevails.The uselessness of all thought and talk Dawn's.
Not even temporarily . The state of silent mind dsnt exit . If the state of silent mind exist even for a moment then there wd be no thought and hence no awareness. To summarize even if such state of mind existed for a moment one would not be aware of it.
@@1000Vlogs awareness is not thoghut of awareness it is just awareness .If awareness is thought it means that you are not aware,you are thinking about it
The processing of sensory data leads to awareness. If there is no processing there is no awareness. Thought is the name of this processing. Thinking is the word used for multiple chains of this thought So there can be awareness(thought )without thinking .
When you know something and you believe that you are right ......then when you see people cant understand your truth..... how stupid they are and you feel angry ... Thats why he seems angry all the time The Peace is important and it shud be there in an enlightened man is also a conditioning....
UG was higher is higher then all the others. He is speaking from a place beyond desires, beyond sex, beyond all wanting and needing. He is beyond god, beyond all knowing. That’s why he is going on explaining the nature of the way things are. How there is nothing. Lol He is limited by words and those listening are limited by their senses. Lol He said that his anger is just energy and I get that. It comes out as a force. :) I never understood him. I’m starting to get him now.
Even after Enlightenment - most of these people are not fully realised. One with the supreme. They have shadows and they work them out. Not all of them have the same capability or capacity. I applaud UG for calling them out.
100%!!
There are more half baked wisemen then there are fully realised beings. They will mess you up. Utilize a sincere seeker to advance in their own path. UG spoke truth.
You can de-condition yourself to a certain extent. The best most people can do is realise what their conditioning is, where it comes from, and let go of the conditioning that makes life harder. People generally can't do this with everything of course, and nor would they survive if they did. But I personally find deconditioning some stuff helpful.
True
One must replace their old conditioning with a new conditioning. To be in between is highly uncomfortable and you are not able to function in society living in intense conflict and not knowing or knowing.
How can you replace the conditioning? Who is there that is conditioned?
@@deangeloconteduca163 you, you are there
We are all just assuming everything . We don’t know any thing and knows nothing about nothing and deep nothing .
There is nothing beyond our body intelligence to survive, Rest is conditioned memory operating to survive in this world.
NONSENSE.....WHAT ABOUT ATMAN AND SUBTLE BODIES U FOOL KR KRISHNAN
UG - the modern aghori
There is a such thing between compulsive reaction and consciously responding, compulsively reacting is a reaction based off of what the other is coming at you with but a conscious response is coming from how you want to respond from your true expression because what we find is that when one for example reacts back to someone's anger and we end up losing our cool we certainly end up in regret simply for losing our cool because we did not intend to truly respond that way and we find that by keeping our composure by keeping our sense of ease we can respond in a much better healthier way that leaves us feeling at ease and happy with ourselves, that we determine how we will experience whatever interaction with others or with circumstances and not the other way around
If he's right, the first brain transplant patient will have an incredible experience!
They would have gone out with one set of conditioning and come alive in an entirely different reality- the shock alone could kill such a person!
Being is condition
The only thing you can actually do with your get-together's with U.G. is greet and say goodbye. In between that, all you can really do is sit with him and just smile, look around, breathe, in and out, close your eyes, head nod and call it a day.
Because there's actually nothing to get, nothing to change. If you come to him with your little human thoughts, wanting this and that, you are screwed lol.
This is one of the clearest explanations of his ideas I have heard thus far. Makes me wonder again if maybe he did find something figure something out that most of us are blind to. I'm drawn to him like few other, his brutal honesty, his relentless insistence that we are listing delusion. A fallible human being that has seen depths billions are too afraid or to uninterested to explore. And why should they? Let them go about their short, animalistic, fantasy-driven lives where humans in general and the individual in particular is the centre of all creation. You nor I will stop them anyway. A few of them may fall into this way of thinking, but it's not superior.
Edit: woke up this morning to see a notification from J. Krishnamurti claiming the very thing U.G. came to reject: czcams.com/video/xC7ZtUdS46A/video.html
your knowing mechanism is all that you are, when its not present, u have no way of saying, knowing anything. that is the natural state but it cannot be said as saying is within the domain of having known it before. so trying is a waste of time. basic navigation thru this society is all that we can do. the body knows nothing, not even death. this i cant say though, UG says so.
@@sudarshanseshadri2144 You have a good grasp of his basic idea.
@@daithiocinnsealach1982 How about this
You can't separate the response from the stimulus. The value system put into us is interfering into each response of the body to the present situation and trying to fit the body's response into the value that is once again put into us (memory). All along our lives repeating the values has fortified the memory and hence has created a secondary thought movement parallel but interfering to the primary body's thought movement (unitary stimulus response movement). So any word even the most basic verbs adverbs adjectives are nothing but part of the value system let alone the degree quality have havenots right and wrongs. It's like if we do something that disturbs the natural rhythm of the body because the body does something and doesn't do anything and it's a random set of frames that happens but the demand to do is forcing it to keep doing all the time and that is the secondary movement.
There is no such thing as understanding. The body records everything it encounters and functions only moment to moment without any anticipation of the next moment. It's the value system including the most basic feeling of "I" that has been put into us and fortified by us runs as a secondary process super imposing, interfering and trying to fit the response to the value and demanding the permanence of the response. But the body doesnt know any of this apart from acting moment to moment. There is no knowing actually. We all are victims of our value system that separates and demands the permanence of our body's response to fit to our values. But in reality it can't be separated and made to last as it's a unitary movement
We are not ready to lose our values as it has been fortified so strongly including the basic "I" and relationships. So by seeking answers we are only fortifying it once again and replacing one values with another. So the whole question of 'so what' or "what to do" is baseless and just the continuity of that values which keep demanding the continuity of body's response to fit into the values
I know ug is right but some people need a method of praying or meditation so even for little glimpse people would understand what he is talking about . He is right that you cannot another replace but if you have a understanding it will help you to stay on a right path that’s it . All the methods save us from going to bad path but normal people don’t have a so much bad or negative desires .
Myself anger myself everything creating actions accounts myself thankyou thankyou thankyou
amazing. also, those who really miss UG-without replacing him Ramesam Vemuri has excellent series-he is UG' fellow Telugu national and very very much correct-and best of all he is generally available in real time
We all know , 100,1000,and more but u.g know zero the emty, the beginning, the base of all things.
Journey life souls honours waste engry waste time nothingness empty hands noone but myself silence journey thankyou thankyou thankyou
wow, my best friends and favorite advisors are "dead".
Help me find a platform..or medium of some sort. I'll take the position for you if you desire to continue playing the fool...ill be your nobody.
No such thing(?) as SILENCE. MIND in SILENCE, when no thoughts prevail is not conditioned by anything or bound to anything.When both speech silence and thought silence prevails only SILENT AWARENESS OR WITNESS prevails.The uselessness of all thought and talk Dawn's.
There is no such thing as silence mind and only awareness. Awareness means a thought of awareness. Thought means mind is not silent
Agreed but the state does not last forever bro . The state is temporary
Not even temporarily . The state of silent mind dsnt exit . If the state of silent mind exist even for a moment then there wd be no thought and hence no awareness. To summarize even if such state of mind existed for a moment one would not be aware of it.
@@1000Vlogs awareness is not thoghut of awareness it is just awareness .If awareness is thought it means that you are not aware,you are thinking about it
The processing of sensory data leads to awareness.
If there is no processing there is no awareness.
Thought is the name of this processing.
Thinking is the word used for multiple chains of this thought
So there can be awareness(thought )without thinking .
What did he say? Godlets?
If what you see flat, 2D no distance, how could anyone overtake while driving 🤔
World is running around after dead worldly things waste engry
He is always so angry. Were is his peace? Isnt that the point.
lol how is that angry?
you be there and feel his presence you might be right there along with the hundreds of people who repeatedly followed him
@@lilmixdboy i dont follow angry people.
When you know something and you believe that you are right ......then when you see people cant understand your truth..... how stupid they are and you feel angry ... Thats why he seems angry all the time
The Peace is important and it shud be there in an enlightened man is also a conditioning....
@@carlhammill5774 you probably eat your words.
You may not follow him but you certainly wouldn't hold these sentiments in person
A lion or tiger is not angry, he has a natural energy, unlike the peaceful looking imposters