Choosing a Board for Foil Drive Gen2 | Tech Talk
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- čas přidán 30. 06. 2024
- While almost any foil board with standard tracks will work with Foil Drive Gen2, some designs and shapes work better than others.
In this Tech Talk, Paul and Jamie work through a small selection of the Foil Drive Fleet of demo and R&D boards and discuss their different attributes and benefits or drawbacks for Foil Drive.
NB: The use of boards that feature carbon fibre foil tracks cannot be guaranteed to have solid wireless connection with Gen2. Known brands with connectivity issues include Armstrong FG boards, Takuma Rising Sun, Takoon.
0:00 Intro
0:43 Types of Boards
3:00 Length is Key!
5:45 Flat vs Curved Boards
6:15 Weight Distribution on Boards
7:00 Smaller Boards
9:16 Best Boards & Comparisons
11:36 Heavier vs Lighter Riders
13:34 Further Comparison of Boards
14:15 Carbon Boards & Signal - Sport
Nailed it guys. Exactly what we are finding. -Tucker
Great feedback on on boards for Gen 2 🙏
Great job boys super informative
epic work fellas
Totally excited to purchase this product!!!! Specific to my needs... I ride the Naish S26 Hover Wing Carbon Ultra. Have you tested your system with this board? Just concerned about the connectivity due to the carbon construction. Your thoughts please? Thanks!!!!
I’m curious about ‘starting technique’ for the smaller volume vs larger volume boards. Are the sinkers (40-55L) boards, assuming you start lying down on the board but the larger ones (90-110L), are you starting on your knees, do you have to hand paddle one vs the other to get speed up?
I’m 125Kg, 6’3” and 63yo. Are there board/foil combos that will work for me to learn on? With love, Ken
I really like the Jimmy Lewis Superfly board. I currently ride the Armstrong 4'5" 34L board (but having connection issues with Gen2 and I already saw Dom's video on Armstrong boards). I put the mast pretty far forward (usually the back of the baseplate is on the 10 number which puts the front of the baseplate about 18" from the tail of the board). My only concern is -- will I be able to put the mast as forward as I like with the JL Superfly track system. I know you ride that board a lot. Any thoughts?
Great info! Thanks for this video. I have a question regarding signal strength. Paul said that a full carbon board with carbon mast tracks may not allow transmission of the signal from the remote controller unit to the Foil Drive. Do you have any experience with boards laminated with basalt fibre cloth? It's only slightly more expensive than S-glass, but has considerably higher tensile strength, though not as high as carbon fibre. It's also a lot less chemically intensive to process, as it's made from 100% volcanic rock. Could be an ideal material for eco friendly boards for use with a Foil Drive! It's available from 'Sanded Australia' in various weaves and weights.
Regarding board shape, there's an interesting thread on the 'Progression Project' forum discussing 'mid length prone boards'. Obviously they are not factoring in having a Foil Drive for power, but the principles they discuss there are similar, in order to facilitate, in their case, paddling into unbroken waves. The basic idea is you want a board that has a long and narrow planform (shape when viewed from above), with minimal rocker to reduce the 'bow wave' you mentioned in the video.
It seems the general consensus for both applications, Foil Drive and paddling into unbroken waves, is that the ideal shape is one that finds the optimum balance between it paddling with the utmost efficiency through the water, and quickly getting up on plane, then when you're up on foil you want to minimise swing weight. It's great to know that volume is less of a consideration with a Foil Drive, as that means you can reduce volume and consequently swing weight is also reduced.
Thanks again for this excellent video, and for confirming the benefits of a slightly longer, narrow board (still a prone board so not too much swing weight), compared to a shorter wider one, like a lot of wing board shapes.
Spot on! My brain is tweaked , board design priority length, width and volume . At 100kg, I was very surprised how well the jimmy lewis 5'8 worked with FD Gen 2 and my bigger foil. Given my board length, feet location to get on smaller foils and smaller boards mast location changes, easy to run of track? Any thought on this topic?
So I bought a Ozon rise 60l full carbon board... and wating for my foil drive to be delivered. So will that not work just because it full carbon? No was to use an antenna or something? Would be quite easy to have a short antenna cable going up to the leash mount ontop of the board...
Jamie is am the same with and height as you and looking to get the new axis prone board. Which board would you recommend 50, 60 or 70?
Thanks guys great info. Can you update after riding the Appletree as it has lots of carbon?
We've had no dramas with the AppleTree!
What about inflatable boards?
( in every aspect)
1. When you say carbon mast tracks, do you mean 2 to 3 layers of 6 oz.carbon fiber cloth laminated over mast track boxes?
2. If I have a board that is full carbon wrap with 3 layers of 6 oz carbon over mast track boxes.......will I have signal from rc unit transmit as long as I fill the slots in mast track boxes?
Best to demo the FD 2 on your board first. My friend bought one that won't work with his two Armstrong boards--really sucks. But his FD 2 works fine on my Fanatic carbon board. So, he needs to buy another board. 🥴😥
Hey I believe you may have answered my question already and I don’t mean to be redundant, but I’m going to ask to make sure. So I just got my Gen 2 in the mail today and I’m SOOO STOKED!!! However, I do own a few boards but my newest, my best, my favorite is my Armstrong FG wing/surf 4’10” 38ltrs…..so what I’m hearing I believe is that the gen 2 will NOT work with this board and I need to get another board. Is that correct? If so I won’t install it on that board and use one of my older beaters until I can get a different board. But I don’t know if anything has changed since the making of the video or if there are just some slight issues but if I hold the left side of the controller down on the nose of the board until I get planing if it would work with the foam in the mast tracks of course. So please let me know either way because I don’t want to use my Armstrong board at all so I can get as much $ back for it as possible toward a different board. Thanks guys.
Did you ever resolve this issue if you were able to use it ?