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Sarah Larimer Reveals the Fate of Little Mary Kelly and Other Women and Children Captives (ep. 10)
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These stories provide a sobering effect from highly romanticized modern (largely noble) depiction of native tribes that existed in early days of America.
Highly romanticized depiction of white men as well as they were equally cruel.
Fannie kelly mentions this as well too. Even in her days, there was a ‘noble savage’ stereotype.
@janinegrey6937 uh no killing and torture of women and children wasn't accepted in one culture but normalized in another
When. Lewis and Clark. Went. On. Their travels. The Indians. Thought them a novelty. Unlike. Settlers. More of a. Threat. And. Soldiers
why would you murder and mutilate a little kid. I understand the time but will never understand slaughtering innocent children
It’s too easy to call them savages. There is no excuse for this evil, neither the time or location.
There were atrocities on both sides. Little Indian children were murdered as well. Both the authors of white and indigenous people have narratives from their experiences. Killing the young of both sides, were an attempt to wipe out generations that would grow up and repeat the same as their forebearers
It was a sad situation all around.😢
White people did just as much atrocities to Native American women, children and elderly. Be careful ho you call savages.
The slaughtering went both ways.
@@rev.tommiestovall7541 Does that excuse torturing and burning to death of little children? Do the Nazis get a pass because there was a lot of other killing unjustified killing in the 2nd World war. Do serial killers get a pass because there are a lot of them out there? And thinking about it, for all the Nazi horrors , did they as a matter of course murder and torture toddlers? And if they did , did they enjoy it as much as the Comanche did?
Comanche weren’t brave noble Indians , they were sick depraved cowards.
One of the last stories you told about the two small boys being shot through by an arrow took place outside of Hastings, Nebraska. Beside our Historic Society is a statue of the two children on their horse, they are forever linked by the arrow that protrudes from their chests. It certainly makes truth come to life. Thank you for sharing these stories of our history.
Around the 1970s at the I-80 Holiday Inn between Hastings and Grand Island Nebraska, there hung a painting of those 2 boys with one arrow connecting them both together fleeing the Souix Indians riding bareback. I used to work there and saw that painting all the time.
Worth noting that Fanny Kelly said Sarah Larimar escaped after only one day with the help of a native. Fanny later claimed Sarah stole her manuscript and published it as her own, and Fanny sued her for it
Only because they wanted the money/reward. Don’t confuse that with morals or ethics or having a “heart”.
Fanny Kelly's encounters have been disputed by other western writers. Her accounts change according to the circumstances. She stated the Indians were kind to her during her captivity yet after release called them as barbaric savages. After reading different readings she appears to be an opportunist. Her writings paints her as a romantic heroine.
@@rosesilveira344 i wouldnt leave white settlers any money either
Such a beautiful account of a child passing into eternity with our Savior.
1:50 what a cowardly act to harm a child. For any race or nationality to do such a thing is not a sign of a warrior or even a man, but a cowardly dog.
That is from your modern point of view, along with the modern view of "children" nowdays, neither has been the case throughout most of history. Children definately werent treated the way they are now (which has gone way too far the wrong direction) & you didnt leave them alive to grow up/older to possibly try to seek revenge one day
@@kristiskinner8542 interesting explanation.. brutal wold ... But it still hurts....bad
It was common for natives to kill all the male children & girls young enough to be a burden in traveling. They'd sometimes just bash a baby's skull against a tree, or throw them in the air and attempt to impale them on bayonets on their way down ---this is why settlers considered them savage, as it was considered unmanly by the settlers to randomly kill women and children.
@@magnificent6668 oh, that and a plethora of other delights that await the unfortunate captive. So, not just the killing of children.
White people did the same and worse to natives...tell that story
You tell a fabulous story so well. I had a feeling Little Mary would come to a sad end. Damn, I knew I was going to cry over Little Mary.
Thanks DW! More heart wrenching accounts of pioneer life toward the end of Lincoln's War. I suppose the Indians knew the calvalry was too busy pursuing Rebs to worry about wagon trains and settlers wandering westward. It's hard to believe that the wagon trains kept moving west as if there was no communication reporting the events out west to the immigrants leaving St Joe, MO in waves.
My forebears left Atlanta in Sept of 1865 headed to Waco, TX. Stories like these make me wonder if they dodged any Indians. From the account of their trip I read, their main concern was running across rogue Union calvalrymen still celebrating the victory. My great, great grandfather was a Confederste officer and knew the only hope for his family was to head west. His father-in-law, a former US Senator had secured land near Waco for extended family to settle on, then exiled to France to wait for reprisals against Confederate cabinet members to cool down. He'd resigned his Confederate cabinet appointment early on due to differences with Jeff Davis. Although my 3x great grandfather returned to GA, reestablished his law practice and lived 2 more decades, he never took the oath to regain his US citizenship. Does that qualify me to be a Dreamer?
Nice, I had a lot of forbears who left Alabama and Tennessee around the same time, and settled near Waco, in Dawson and Axtell.
People can be horrible, no matter who they are! Far too many innocents fall to the evil ones
@kprop not an excuse
What a sad story, As a mother, I'm not sure I'd let my 7 yo daughter loose to wander hundreds of miles alone in the prairie. Shame on the natives for killing and scalping a 7 yo girl! So brave warriors! Pretty pathetic!
Don’t forget, the US government, however n many cases, paid bounty’s on Indian women and children’s scalps.
Every tribe on this planet including white ones has skeletons in the closet!
True. Killing a young, helpless child is very evil.
“Modifying flattery opinion” needs to be done about many things! Such a humble and descriptive writer. Reality versus fantasy is a big difference.
After listening to one of the stories. I am addicted. Thank you!
We learn so much from these episodes.
Thanks! I’ve been waiting for the next episode in this series
Me too!
So pleased to hear the next instalment, keep them coming! Enjoying from South Australia.
Great storytelling sir 👏
I’m loving this series! Love your work
I don’t like the thought of a little baby girl being murdered and scalped by grown men while she was just trying to run away from them.
These are very interesting stories, I look forward to them!!!🖖🙆♀️🙅♀️🤓
The story of Mary Kelly being killed the way she was made me furious. I literally screamed out "Nooo" when the narrator said an arrow pierced her heart
But but but I was told they were such a peaceful loving people….how could they kill and scalp an innocent little baby girl that was running away from them. WHY would they do that? How could she possibly hurt them?
That's why they were given the appropriate title of "Savages".
@@mineralmerchant00exactly
Such brave warriors. Murdering defenseless little girls and then cutting off their scalp as a trophy to prove your manhood. Disgusting barbarism.
After dime Chiefs were taken to see Boston i think it was--in part to frighten them into stopping fighting--and many lost face and respect due to the stories they brought back of what they Saw--as Not Believed!--but one of them said--after seeing all the Wonders--said "Why--to them--we must be like wolves running across the Prairies!"
Excuse me, white men killed whole villages that were only women, children and elderly ones...
Read --Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee... Just one example...
Excuse me, white men killed whole villages that were only women, children and elderly ones...
Read --Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee... Just one example...
So happened from both sides...
Indians killed and treated each other pretty brutally, too... Different enemy Tribes..
Another fascinating installment!…you are appreciated
I found your videos , and I have been interested in history from 1600 through the late 1800.
Especially the fur traiting days. I find your narration excellent. Thanks
The fur trade was what initially opened up what is now Canada. I too was curious about it and found a very good book on the subject in a public library titled "Fur Trade Wars (the founding of Western Canada) by J.M. Bumsted. He was quite obviously biased in his accounts (the two main players were the Hudson Bay Company (based in Britain, with mainly British employees) and the Northwest Company (Based in Montreal and heavily reliant on Metis employees. The best part of the book was the bibliography, and in some key instances, I was able to find his original source material on the net and read it for myself. The truth was much like listening to an episode of UnWorthy History.
Dude, your telling of the tales is A+......
Great story, thank you.
We have had many wars all over the world since this time. Are we any better now?
"They would probably modify their flattering opinion." Indeed.
SO SAD!!
Been waiting for this! Thank you.
Poor child 💔
The story of the mountaineer and his murdered Indian friend is one of the wildest and saddest things I have ever heard.
this happend to many children they dont want people to know this dirty deeds
No. These tribal people are supposed to look peaceful and noble. Nothing more than victims of the white man
these are true sad an savage times for white children
Such sweet and true words of heaven that sweet Mary entered into
My moms family were done on the Alabama Florida border in the 1700-1800 time period. They were settlers and were attacked by Indians. The bay had its head bashed against the fireplace and only two kids survived, they ran and hid in the creek and later went to neighbors, so I am here.
The account was by army men as they arrived and surveyed and talked to the dying father
Humans have always been violent by necessity, morals were a luxury of the religious in spite of the harsh life they faced
Why did Academia and Hollywood lie when it comes to how things were?
I suppose it looks ugly to 1950's audiences? also today it would be too un pc
Because only whitey is bad remember!? Lol
I’m pretty new here, and this channel is quickly my fave. Not to mention your velvety voice and that fur thing you wear with perfect regalia.
Good to hear, thanks!
I wondered how Ms. Fanny thought a child could survive. Apparently she couldn't.
People are as civilized as they act.
The Sioux were like Mother Theresa compared to the Commanches. To Commanches, a simple arrow to the heart and a scalping of a 6 year old girl was not nearly sadistic enough to satify them. The Cmmanches took a white womans 7 day old newborn baby, tied it to a horse on a rope, and had it dragged through a cactus feild until the baby was shredded to bits. Why? Because the newborn was taking too much time away from their white woman captives work time. Yes, all cultures did evil things, but the difference is the Commanches saw nothing wrong with this as a whole, and it was acceptable behavior amoung all of them.
Demon possessed!
💖💖💖 awesome series
Amazing
Great channel.
The natives were noble and peaceful huh??
They skipped thru the forest raining down light, love, moonbeams and unicorns, living in charming peace with the earth and each other. At least that’s what public school history books and PBS would teach.
Warrior culture is brutal
It is ok for the Indians to bad things and not ok for the white settlers to do bad things got it
Love your videos
Many of these old writings is not the actuality of the hostile environment. Their eloquently written to tell the author that wrote the books story.
Any word on what ever happened to Frank Larimer?
*"Appreciation to the Narrator"*
In understanding, it really isn't for us to Judge, *"they had been lied to repeatedly and we broke treaties, every treaty, Soldiers were directed to kill their women, children, elderly, even when they were on their lands and Peacefully going about their business."*
Our perspective is heavily influenced by Movies and Authors, writing Fiction based on some events.
We never know the experience of walking in another's shoes,, the Native Americans or the White Settlers.
Clearly the greed of the Elites, to gain the Resources of their lands: gold, silver, minerals, trees, beavers, later the oil, the most lush in wildlife and/or fertile lands, all of the land with $ value, was targeted for the Elites of the era to gain for $0.00, and at no cost of their own physical efforts, *(but to use the Military, the Miners, Trappers, and Settlers, using their work and lives to clear a way for their Industries, Corporations, to then move in and extract all that they wanted, regardless of what it cost in Lives, or to the Land, streams/rivers, the Public and the Earth.)*
*It is observable in the records of History.*
... and the US Gov was very often just as greedy and supporting 8f the Elite Industries. The US Gov mapped the railroad and when the tracks were laid, the Gov GAVE the Railroad 1 mile of land in both sides of the tracks, regardless if it was inhabited by Whites or Native Americans.
The Railroad then selected any location they desired be a City, and sold off plats and/or acreages at the highest price they could receive for the land. (Again, they, the Railroad, got the land for free.)
The Native Americans overwhelmingly, 9 of 10 tribes, offered Peaceful Cooperation to the Whites, Europeans and Spanish, but they were seized, enslaved, or used in some manner, it was far more the horrible treatment of the early immigrants, the Military and the greedy Whites that with a prejudicial attitude, a think they were more worthy that the Native People's, and in this 21st Century, some 150 - 300+ years later, there are still many whom have yet to apply their Higher Mind, aka Mature Mind and achieved a Centered perspective with Empathy, Ethics, and Compassion for other People's.
It is our unrealized living through the Lower Mind, aka (Ego Mind, aka Adolescent Mind), which houses all our negative Thought Energies and is reactive, *(rather than being "Conscious in Thought" and "Applying Higher Mind" where all our Positive Thought Energies reside and from which we discern then respond.)*
In our Higher Mind we experience a far more desirable and happy journey of Life.
It is never a balanced mind whom hurts others, particularly children and puppy dogs.
Beth Bartlett
Sociologist/Behavioralist
and Historian
Best Thoughts and Wellbeing ..
This why the Bible says women should not talk much
@@JohnsonWooten-cl1so
lol oh, bite me! 😘
Well yes VERY interesting but we're from TEXAS 🇨🇱 AND TO THIS DAY my cousin's & sister STILL horrified over the stories our Grandparents dare Not go into much detail used to tell us over the savage ways back then.
@@bethbartlett5692 well the Bible does say that ....also for a Historian very undignified remark .....
@@bethbartlett5692 your best thoughts and well being didn’t last long did it? Like most hypocritical lefties, all “tolerance light and love” on the outside, but vicious tyranny the minute someone disagrees.
And the Woke think the Settlers had it so easy.
You know, I watch these historical documentarys so I don't have to be subjected to people's moronic biased political statements. Can't you spew your ignorance somewhere else?
@@johnqueen8516 regardless of how you feel, this person has the right to exercise their first amendment rights.
You have no idea what other peoples think. It is too easy to lump others into groups. Try to be open minded.....
This is why these first hand accounts matter so much, I’m going to have my older grandkids listen.,
🙄 alot of ppl have distorted views on things, its far from just the "woke"
I don't understand why when America was divided up for the european settlers, they gave/sold to small families. These families on their own couldn't defend themselves very easily from the indians because they were just regular families. Bearing in mind how the plains was the home of native americans whom many were hostile - why didn't those who sold the land sell it to say for instance 500 men and 500 women per plot - at least in numbers they had a chance to secure and protect their land. A family of 5 or 6 would have no chance.
After the revolutionary war, the continental (federal) government was desperate to for income to repay the dept to France for funding the uprising. With difficulties in taxing the population, they turned to selling land in western pa and Ohio that had been previously decreed off limits to settlement to appease natives. After much success in procuring funds, it became permanent practice. It's fair to reason that settlers were at least fully or partially unaware of the danger that they were undertaking.
America wasnt divided up to Europeans. Spain, then France, then the english all came over. The spanish did as you suggested, big government support and they totally took over south America. But the french and english etc mostly came over as individuals. Because Europe was as shitty as it is today with their EU aristocracy , people fled autocracy and religious persecution
@@deborahdean8867
LOL, people fled Europes religious persecution. Then came killing women for “witchcraft”. And missionaries for varying denominations, turned the Indians on each others denominations. Jesuits Vs Methodist Vs Presbyterian Vs etc. Christianity has ALWAYS used religious persecution for financial purposes. Still does. Think television preachers and Trumps extremist religious far right.
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I'm sure that she knows what happened to the child after seeing an Indian with her scalp
The little Frank stand in kid photo
Definitely the wild , wild west .
1870, (153 years ago), *"Then or now, everyone's experience is unique to their perspective, their hope and dreams, or fears and doubts. Their stories are each accurate, if they believed them to be so."*
The *"Universal Law of Attraction", is Absolute,* it applies, to each, to all, to every subject in the 3D Journey, on our Earth, and throughout the Universe, it is the Divine Design. 🌎
9:55
interesting material, painfully monotone narration.
Native Americans were monsters.
In War all people become Monsters..
To this day, mans potential for cruelty is boundless.
Why would you tell the little kid to run when she had nowhere to run.. Because the mother was attempting to spare her daughters SOUL. She believes that if the child dies before becoming a savage, although incredibly tragic physically , her daughter will reach heaven.
Not being a smart Alec just wondering how can we say “real history” and all your videos?
*why you say
Because history channels on TV don't show actual or real history.
Good grief this woman was such an over writer.
From all that he has read on his channel. That seems to be the norm for back then.
People were much, much better educated back then than now. Your word “over writer” makes my case.
@@Julia29853 You have no "case". By that response you're just a dramatic as Sarah. Presumptuous, too, if you found that well educated.
There was no movies,cameras so people wrote more descriptively,certainly well educated this writer.
This was common writing that you find from the time period. In alot of ways people were better educated then than now.
who knows what is true, what is embellished, and what is sensational fabrication?
Good use of the period literacy though.
Stupid Army commanders... over and over. But always fail upwards. Wish I could leave here!
Then go.
Unworthy to the starving landless native americas
Most of the stories you tell are lies
It’s been proven from archeological evidence that native tribes regularly slaughtered each other and some cannibalized their victims. They also scalped and enslaved each other well before the colonists arrived. Why is it so hard to believe that natives would do the same to colonists?
Sadly, your reading style is so annoying I can not listen to your videos. I'm sure the info is great, but I'll pass all the same.