MPs Approve General Election on December 12 - Brexit Explained
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For the last two days MPs debated in the House of Commons, with the government pushing for a general election in December. In this video we discuss this 'Brexit' Election; why it's necessary and the stupidly complicated way that it ended up passing.
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I don’t like this season finale.... we were promised either a great departure or a dead man in a ditch but instead got a dragged out storyline with the cliffhanger being pushed back to next season. Let’s hope the quality of the storytelling picks up again. We don’t want another Game or Thrones ending
The show was renewed for another season! More Dowager Countess rebukes! Wait, I may have my shows mixed up...
I'm just hoping the dragon doesn't melt the throne with the queen still sitting in it
Francois Roewer-Despres brilliant description 😂
Bernhard Jordan - But, as it turned out, he won the election handily. I wouldn’t argue with success.
I'm from the future - the future is shit.
At 8:25 the Ayes and Noes are mixed up.
Hear hear'
'Ear 'ear
"*vacuum noises*"
*whistles in scorn*
'Eeeeaaaaaaaaar!
The eyes to the right, the nose to the left…
Sounds like the recipe for a Picasso portrait.
@@CTCTraining1 It does, doesn't it?
The eyes to the right : 2 , the nose to the left : 1… The eyes have it, the eyes have it, unlock
It’s Ayes
@@londonstyle5324 Who cares?
We have a ceremonial mace?
Gotta love the UK parliament
In 1988 Ron Brown Labour MP for Leith, picked up the mace during a debate on the so-called poll tax and threw it to the floor in protest at the government's proposals. The mace was damaged, and Brown was ordered to pay £1,500 towards the cost of repairs.
@@mathieuleader8601 That's punk.
Of course there's a ceremonial ROYAL mace dating back to the time of King Charles II. Business cannot be conducted without it, could it?
With a +50 on Charisma - Lie
I don't even know what a mace is -- I don't think we have them in the U.S. I'm going imagine it is the british english singular for mice, until corrected.
I’ve now had three elections in my time at school 😂. Lots of mock elections...
In my school of 90% Asians, UKIP used to win every time
@Fhjthnl Lol Iuyo It could be that most of the Asians there are born in Britain and are British, the parents just send them to that specific school because it became the "Asian" school. In my country we have separate schools for different races but we're all still countrymen and countrywomen
@Fhjthnl Lol Iuyo They are all British. The school selects students based on their performance in the entrance exam (it's a grammar school). If white students in the area were more academic, there would be more white students at the school - not that ethnicity matters.
Can status: kicked
Can destination: down the road
As it should always be
Ultimate destination: Destination Fucked
@@prateekbhurkay9376 Ozzyman should do Brexit reviews :).
@@ingerasulffs "and Bercow is like "Yea na" and that Amendment's gone to Destination Fucked"
@@prateekbhurkay9376 the road to nowhere
I guess, Bojo will now die in the ditch as he said?
Hey Randy, keep up with the Tegridy
But it will be an amazing ditch. Paid for by the EU (with funds from the British tax payer), dug by an EU army, sat below a refugee camp. Beautiful.
Nah. Samaritans.
Alain No he’ll rise from the ditch
He said he would rather die in a ditch than ask for an extension, he didn’t ask for an extension. Just sent one letter he had to and another saying he didn’t want an extension.
I think everyone expected this General Election occurring once they completed the delay extension.
Let's hope this time Remainers don't end up ruining our future.
Any update on Bercow getting merch?
So an election fought over brexit rather than domestic policies like welfare and education. This has little chances of ending well
To my mind it should have gone
1: 2nd referendum to clarify what sort of Brexit the public actually want (or no Brexit)
2: Do Brexit (or not)
3: General election based on domestic policies to take the country forward
Indeed.
Having an election based on one issue, then it might as well have had been a referendum instead.
Now however, due to the wonderful first past the post system, a large part of the population actually wanting to vote on other issues, and some wanting a type of Brexit/remain but does not want to vote on the party which have that stance.
This is going to end up with all interpreting the result according to their will, and no one really knowing what the British people really want...
Well Brexit requires a lot of job to be done, and certainly deserves to be the primary objective of these elections.
I think this ls the whole point.
Personalities rather than policies.
All the PM is doing is trying to get the Tories back in government - thats all.
Sadly alot of leave followers ( except me) believe he'll deliver bxt.
Politicians are always searching for distractions from the real issues examples.
NHS , welfare, disabilities, social care, business rates,
Not in any particular order.
None of this will matter during this campaign 🙃
last time i was this early, i spent half an hour trying to come up with a "last time i was this early" joke and wasnt early anymore
Sad to be seeing Bercow retire as Speaker. It'll be hard to find a successor who can live up to such legendary standards as we've come to expect from the role as onlookers.
At least we will always have the "Orrrrdddddeeeerrrr" Remixs on CZcams to look back on😂
I believe he overstepped the mark a few times during the bxt debacle. Not truly impartial - will slightly stain his tenure.
However love the fact the Tories always hated him👍.
@@stuartd9741 your forgetting he was a tory before becomming speaker
@@hamzahasif533 yes. But thought of the Tory party frothing at the mouth because Bercow was speaker is enough for me.
At best he may have been a centrist.?
BoJo's Bizarre Adventures: Downing Street Run confirmed for next season! The fate of many characters end here as new characters get introduced.
BoJo battles against almost every opponent of the whole series except for OrDIO and Rorykage:
Labour Men(Cors, Watsmuu, Edsidisi Miliband)
Nicolavolo
Gaukeward Squad
and more...
Stand User : Bo-jo
Stand name: ???
Stand ability: Never arrive at the truth.
This shit ain't even funny and I love JoJo.
@Qimodis Nah his brother David Miliband's out.
@Qimodis Thus Corbyn being in the position of Kars, the leader.
@@MrRishik123 i love this and hate this so much
After Brexit the UK Parlament is going to be like: "Ok, But What Now?"
after Brexit, all sort of problems will arise
Heat Death of the Universe
Probably, they will try to negotiate new deals all over around the world. I believe they will become USA's protectorate de facto for some decades. Then nobody knows. The only thing I know is that Europe as a whole leans towards a more dark future.
@@evilotto9200 pure gold 🤣
@@OzzyOscy prepare for homeless people to be cut in half
Dear TLDR, while I appreciate the need for ad funding and the increased revenue from placing the ads during the video, would it be possible to place them so that they don't cut in, in the middle of an idea/argument?
@@wx4sno not on the phone sadly
@@wx4sno I choose to let the ads run because it is the easiest way I have to pay for the content. Using Adblock reduces revenue used to make more content.
Can they choose where they're placed? Thought they were random
MrsMelrom it’s random they can’t choose where to put them
I know of one youtuber that let's transitions/loading screens play out for the ads to land there. Hopefully. But his videos are usually on the longer side (30 minutes and up) and aren't a stream of words in those moments like TL;DR's. There probably are more, maybe even a way to move them manually at some point, but afaik you can only choose how many are played. Mostly by accounts of length of the video. It's why the 10 minute mark is so important, it allows for a second ad, iirc.
Thank you for your hard work! Literally this channel is almost the only way now for me to keep up with this interesting drama in Westminster, London. Especially recently everything went too fast, and all the mainstream news and even a lot of other popular youtube channels are just... Let's say at the very least, not closely as precise (and as objective) as yours. Thanks for that!
I know this is quite obvious to say, but you are doing a great job in providing informative and clear news! I am more and more surprised that journalists are not doing this job any more: they just put a microphone in front of random people to hear their opinion. You state the facts and explain in detail what actually happed: I understand this is a lot of work but this is how information should be done! Thanks!
Being able to pass a law on a simply majority vote that strips off a 2/3 majority vote means you never had the 2/3 requirement in the first place.
thats why you should have a written constitution which entrenches fundamental principles like parliamentary elections and can't simply by overridden by a simple majority
UK: I do declare that the cerimonial stick is now in its proper position
Rest of civilized world: LOL.
This really is the best coverage for UK politics, by a long, long way. I'm delighted you opted to stop including podcast clips, it was detrimental to the content.
I appreciate you want to make us aware of your other platforms, and much prefer to see them at the conclusion of the videos 👍
Keep up the superb work.
@Qimodis if you think this channel only covers Brexit, then you're very much mistaken. Thanks for the comment though, what is it they say; empty vessels make most noise?
To grant the extension was basically the EU's way to give Johnson the finger :D
I'm so sad, that tomorrow is Bercow's last day at work :(
It good you keep up such positivity while you ruin your country.
@@pussieswillneverbeheroes6019 you should hurry up and leave then, because at the moment you're open to everyones opinions, laws and courts... So why worry about one more?
@A Id Azrael seems to support Bercow or at least have a positive view of him. Bercow is a bias speaker who broke parliamentary precedent by actively supporting the remainers. Which in turn undermines our democracy.... And that in my opinion is something we all can agree is undesirable for the country without controversy...
That is the correlation you were looking for.
@@corscientia2744 you are very creative.
@@corscientia2744 Your analysis of Bercow's actions as speaker are as flawed as your spelling of the word precedent.
Just when you think the series is about to end, they add a short final season AND announce a spin-off! Fans must be pissing their knickers from sheer excitement by now.
The show must go on
I really like your videos, they are the Best!
The last season of Brexit ended on a terrible cliffhanger, but these trailers look very interesting
I know TLDR News is against Brexit but their videos on average are fairly neutral, this one however was quite biased. You failed to mention that Johnson was forced to request an extension by Parliament, therefore tying his hands, whilst at the same time conveniently glossed over the fact that Corbyn changed his mind about the election because he knew the bill had the necessary support and was going to pass whether Labour liked it or not. It was a politically expedient change of heart on their part, the justification Corbyn gave doesn't hold up, just a few days earlier when the EU had already agreed to the January 31st extension he stated that in order for Labour to support an election "No Deal" had to be COMPLETELY off the table.
To be fair, though, he didn't judge Corbyn's justification (which I agree, is a bi ridiculous), he just reported what Corbyn said.
The info graphic at 8:25 is the wrong way around.
"that episode will be available later today" - yes! No 3 week gap this time
Boris: Our election will have 16 times the detail. You can be who you want to be, go where you want to. I heard brexit has some bugs; I read that on the internet, so that must be true. But believe me, it just works. Brexit just works.
Underappreciated 👍
Four times the size of the 2017 election.
@TheBaconHunter Brexit first shill.
I can't picture how this could go wrong in any kind xD Season 5 here we go!
Since BoJo will be dead in a ditch tomorrow, who’s going to be the new leader of the conservatives?
Zombie Bojo... Stumbles around mumbling, "I was right, that was awesome."
You can tell he's a zombie, his hair's been combed.
I hope Conservatives' opponents will make a running joke out of it during the election.
"I don't recall the UK law giving the dead candidation rights!"
Your first general election, tldr news! I'm so happy for you!
Isn't it their third?
2nd, they only started in May 2017. 253 videos in less than 18 months, so far.
Ah! I was sure they appeared after that election...
Man, they prepared more seasons but my favourite character is gone :/ Ordaaaa shall be forever remembered!
Interesting, seems like a lot of tory back benchers didn't get the memo that it isn't pre 2011 anymore
So when does the new speaker get announced.
So the eyes have it, the eyes have it. Unlock!
So the Deputy Speaker only allowed one amendment through for consideration - I wonder how many Bercow would have allowed through?
Almost certainly the same, for the same reason.
The EU vote one has unfair advantages to the Remain parties
@@line0lifes250 Doesn't that mean that the current way gives an unfair advantage to the Leave parties? ;)
@@varana No, because the idea of non-British citizens voting in British elections is absurd.
@@varana Why don't we ask people to vote that we pulled out of the back of vans at the border too?
It never ends
What has happend with the British parlament? they have actually voted yes 2 times now, I thought they only agreed on disagreeing
Haha, nice one.🤣
Could you do a video on pros and cons for who to vote for? I think a lot of people (including myself) feel they don’t support any party anymore and therefore don’t know who to vote for in December
@TLDR News Could you please explain why Mr. Bercow had left his seat the deputy speaker had taken chargre during the 2nd stage
The committee stage is overseen by the Chairman of Ways and Means aka the deputy speaker.
All bills in the UK Parliament go through the committee stage. The Finance Bill and many important bills go through what is called a committee of the whole house. This is where the entire House is considered part of the committee instead of the usual select committees that are made up of selected MPs to scrutinize bills.
This is often for important bills that will have a big effect on the country and as the early general election will it was put to the whole house. The committee of the whole is not chaired by the Speaker by convention but by the deputy speakers, mainly the Chairman of the Ways and Means Committee (Deputy Speaker). They do not sit in the chair and instead sit at the clerk table.
@@cnocbride7256 Oh we don't have that in our process. I live in India and we have copied (basically) the institution of the Speaker. We have our PM (nominally) as head of the Ways and Means committee here.
@@rohannavalkar112 I didn't know that India even had a Ways and Means Committee.
@@cnocbride7256 We do and here the Speaker just appoints members to it. And PM is de-facto head
So is that it for Bercow? I remember him saying he wouldn’t stand again, so will we be seeing the last of him soon?
Most likely. He will be missed.
Even if he *does* stand, Labour will be free to field a candidate against him, as he will no longer be Speaker, having said he'd stand down at the next election or October 31, whichever came first. (Traditionally, the main opposition party doesn't oppose the sitting Speaker, although other parties can.)
I thought the usual was that former Speakers typically got appointed to the Lords. Of course Boris and company really don't like Bercow much so that might wait a few years.
I thought Bercow said he would stay if an election was called or until the 31st if it wasn’t. Does this mean he will stay until December now?
@@laurmarcarok8388 If parliament is dissolved to allow for a new election, there isn't a need for a Speaker of the House. Presumably his successor will be chosen by the new parliament. Not sure who presides over that election.
Yep. Unless you have £1 million, apparently.
8:26 woopsie on that graphic :) 315 voted nay, not aye.
Can someone explain me why there is even the possibility to bypass the FTPA? Why even bother to let MPs vote for a bill where you need 2/3 of parliament if you simply can do anything with standardbills?
That part annoyed me too
I wonder what the constitutionality of frustrating the FTPA like this would be
Eventually. I can see an end to this
Bold of you to assume there will be an end.
No matter what happens there won't be a end for a long time
i can’t all i see is another hung parliament
You got better eye sight then I
Bojo wasn’t allowed to die in a ditch because they brought in the ditch act legislation
I know, what's the point of having the act if you're going to pass a bill anytime you don't want to obey it
Brexit seems less and less like a political movement and more like a cry for attention. Feels like the UK will never leave
Imagine after the general election the government got 20% of seats while the Labour got 20%,ukip got 15%,brexit party got 30%, greens got 5% and Liberal Democrats got 10%
Wow! I knew there had to be an explanation, but had no idea WHAT it could possibly be. Trying to describe all of it in print or in a news story would be impossible without explanations of MOTIVES so none of them even tried but left it to TLDR to do so!
0:18 BJ didnt sign the extension request so the image you show must be the "other" letter. it was also one page and not two.
Well this is what i thought.
Strange did Boris really sign the extension request?
And the media pretending he didn't?
0:48 lol you know mps and pm is stressin when they don't wear their ties straight.
Yet another general election!
I think apathy will play a large part in this result! Xmas shopping anyone?🤔
@@jgt_ By "everyone" do you mean people with a hatred for democracy?
Or an opportunity for those 12m who did not vote in the referendum to rise up and punish the Conservatives for getting us into this mess in the first place.
@@jgt_
But about as likely as proving that Santa is a real person!🤔
@@nigelanscombe8658
Very true sir.
I was annoyed to see in the days following the referendum, thousands of students with painted on tears protesting the result, but when asked by an interviewer, they said they didn't bother to vote! Ho hum.🤔
Glenn Whitehead it was certainly a shock result but it was what it was.
The way forward from there was to start negotiating the deal to get the U.K. out.
The idea of “No deal” without trying everything in parliament’s power to obtain a reasonable deal for ALL those likely to be affected was, and is still, unspeakable.
Can you imagine how annoying it must be to serve Bercow at a restaurant? He no sooner sits down than it's "ORDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaa!"
Would you like tea or lager to drink sir?
"DIVISION!!!! CLEAR THE LOBBY!"
the lobby, why the lobby, sir... the host stand is in the lobby...
I would continue to be annoyed that I am unable to vote for another two years however, I expect that all this excitement will continue for the foreseeable future.
Will you cover D-Day (aka Ditch day) tomorrow?
I do agree with the statement made by the school governor on the SNP bench (I think) that I number of parents do both taking their children back on the Friday after polling, where as a Monday election wouldn’t suffer fro: this problem.
Has anyone been able to find the new podcast episode? I'm eager to listen to it but I can't seem to find it -- the latest episode appears to be "The Great Brexit Railroad" (October 21).
I thought u said you were gonna upload a new podcast yesterday. U LIED TO ME!
I agree, where is it??
Who do you think will replace Bercow?
As tomorrow is also my birthday well ot may be early but "Happy Brexit day" oh wait thats right lol, EXTENSION(said in Bercow's voice) lol
Don't understand what did they need a deputy speaker for? Why not Bercow all the time?
Here's an idea: instead of counting on a majority, maybe try actually putting forth good offers.
When's the podcast up?
Agree, wher is it?
Isn't it the last week for Berkow's role as speaker of the house?
The last day. It’s possible he will stay.
He said “I will leave after an election or on Oct 31st, whichever comes first.”
yes it is
08:11 - Trying to be John Bercrow
Fully expect BoJo to turn up dead in a ditch tomorrow.
This line of logic doesn't make sense. a is preferable to b, b happens, therefore a? That's not how it works.
Nahh mate. Itll be a dead pig in the ditch whilst boris goes into hiding in cuba with mj and epstein
Expect him to turn up on December 13th with a big majority.
Did Boris request an extension ?
He sent a letter requesting an extension BUT IT WAS UNSIGNED so has no authority.
The only letter he sent that was signed was the last one saying he didn't favour an extension.
So is the extension they gave legal??????
Ya, the EU accepted it and the UK courts said it was.
God I missed you so much during this single day of no video
You need to get out more
No ifs, no buts! We are leaving on the 31st January.
Could you guys make a video about all the weird & very traditional rules and little traditions the HoC has? Like the whole thing with the Mace. What was that?
I think they made a few of those videos in their early days, but perhaps they should link them again in the video description
It feels like potential for either a record low or record high turn out. But I don't know what is most likely. It is a terrible date for an election in general so that alone might swing votes.
As a person who lives in Sweden, what was the "committee stage" and what was the pint of lowering the mace, (and what is so special about the mace and its position)
The mace is the symbol of the monarch giving power to parliament
Dont Sweden have royal traditions in parliament
The committee stage give MPs an opportunity to examine the bill line by line and debate the finer details of a bill. Committees are usually held in separate committee rooms, but for important bills it is held in the chamber and is referred to as the Committee of the Whole House. The mace is placed on the table when the House is sitting and represents the Queen’s authority for the House to sit. When the House is in committee, it technically isn’t sitting as the House of Commons, so the mace is lowered to signify this
what are the predictions for how different counties will vote?
please add a jingle at the start of your videos!!!!!
oh happy day as the song goes, HAS ANYONE LOOKED IN DITICHES THIS MORNING
Where's the new podcast?
I agree, where is it
Hey tldr, just a suggestion. The banner of your channel is still has Theresa may in it. Time to change to Boris?
Still don't understand Labour agreeing to an election, because the short extension doesn't take No Deal off the table, unless I'm missing something?
Tom Shaw It's a not a short extension, it's a flextension, meaning UK can leave in 1st December, 1st January or 31st January
With the votes of the LibDems and the SNP, the bill was likely to be passed anyway, so they basically just jumped on the train at the last minute.
Considering just the other day Corbyn was saying his 'condition' for an election was No-Deal being an impossibility in all forms, including at the end of the Withdrawl Agreement, his conditions clearly weren't met.
The simple truth is that he was outmanoeuvred and outnumbered by the government, SNP and Lib Dems. The Bill was going to pass whether Corbyn abstained or actively voted against it - He was left with a choice of going into an election having not voted for one, which would have been great election material for the Conservatives, or jumping before they were pushed and backing the election to save face.
Hybrid Jack Conservatives have enough election material. Corbyn just look like a nervous hypocrite
Think we need some strong and stable leadership 🤣🤣🤣
I was watching them last night. Who was the woman they were referring to as Madam Deputy Speaker when discussing the amendment to change the date? She answered some questions and kept needing to tell them to keep the chatter down or leave if they wanted to have individual conversations. I thought Lindsay Hoyle was Deputy Speaker, are there two?
Have there ever not been a division?
Yes many times. In fact most times.
So you mean that we need 2/3 majority for a general election, but not a 2/3 majority for brexit? This is some big brain shit right there.
The more Brexit news I watch, the more confused I get. (Not TLDR Fault thought)
I wonder why the change of date amendment didn't pass, given that having students vote surely is in the interests of the LD and Labour? And I would have thought the SNP and Plaid, given that they're seen as a brake on hard Brexit, and the younger are polling Remain.
Isn't Bercow set to retire on the 31st? What's up with that?
What I don't understand is ... if the FTPA requires a 2/3 majority of all MPs in order to call an early general election ... but the government (or opposition) can table a one-line bill that amends the FTPA in order to call an early general election, and which only needs a simple majority to pass ... does that make the FTPA the most pointless bit of legislation ever?
Not relly, but sort of, the one line bill can be amended so for exampel 16 year old can vote and so on. FTPA do not give that rom. Sorry for the bad english.
"Notwithstanding tradition, the United Kingdom shall henceforth be an absolute monarchy once more" - The Queen
What do you have a fixed-term parliament act for, when you just fucking ignore it immediately.
that was interesting
Now we're finally going to find out how the Conservatives are going to build a nuclear fusion power station.
So will Bercow stick around till the election? Or is he still leaving end of the week?
Im a student and im very much leave...errrree. We voted leave, we should be leaving, you should not be able to revoke the decision and keep having a referendum until you get the answer you want.
@TheBaconHunter labour and corbyn can both fuck off. Labour do not negate my political stance, i do.
But we didn't vote HOW to leave, there are too many ways to go about Brexit to just say "we voted brexit let's do it" is niave and impossible.
Conservatives orchestrated a poorly phrased referendum and are suffering the consequences, hopefully no government makes the same cock up again
You must be a student of a proper STEM degree, not a Mickey Mouse McDegree like McMedia Studies or McGender Studies.
Tactical Idiots,
Suffering consequences such as securing a Healy majority on Dec 13th, you mean? Lolzords.
Billie Piper’s Teeth I’m studying drama at uni, and I tell you what, it’s full of bloody gender theory and feminism it’s actually fucking ridiculous. But I’m 26 so I’m older than most of my class and I’m also not a sheep like the rest of them
I really like your channel. You should do more than just Brexit, though.
... but the question is what? The only thing I could think of which naturally goes with Brexit is comedy but this is funny enough already.
He does occasionally do stuff other than brexit, but brexit events happen so quickly he (and his small team) rarely have the time for anything else.
Hanif Shakiba maybe when Brexit is officially over and done with he should.
Stephen Murphy I’m sure he will. I just checked his uploads, and over the past 2 months he uploaded 5 non brexit videos. Once brexit is done he has the time to focus on other topics.
If I'm honest I'm done with this country, I need to move. Sliding the new laws they did in today was the last straw.
Podcast, T-shirt, podcast, t-shirt
So how did Corbyn rationalize being against the election on Monday but for it on Tuesday? The EU extension was agreed last week. Nothing has changed on that front.
A general election via FTPA allows the prime minister to change the election date after the parliament has dissolved. And FTPA does not allow amending. Johnson could have moved the general election past Jan-31 the same trick he tried to use twice already. Johnson could use a normal motion he tabled after loosing the first try on monday evening for tuesday as well, but he was too cowardly to do so. He even tried to smuggle an amendment in which removes being able to add amendments. Johnson is an untrustworthy politician.
So I'm American and new to British politics. So what stops a hypothetical THIRD election if the remainders win this time? When do political do overs stop?
Is there a best of 7 rule or something?
The reason brexit is so controversial is because of how shitty the referendum was held, it simply exclaimed whether brexit should happen or not and how to go about it. Some argue that means a second referendum should be held which actually gives clarification on how to go about it (for example the options could be no brexit, government deal, no deal) and if it happened like that chances are no one would fuss because it would actually be a reasonably phrased referendum with clarity.
Wait, I'm confused... what exactly does the mace do again?
Some old king put his power to pass laws by speaking into it and gave it away to avoid being silenced by one.
Stretches yo batty hole.
I don't like that this went through without amendments. I am not optimistic that this GE will solve anything.
Any thoughts in intro jingle?
I like the podcast jingle myself, but perhaps it needs to be more tense/frantic as news programmes are usually.
Its going to become too long, didn't watch.