I Put a Titanium Grayl in the Campfire and this Happened!
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The Pathfinder Store makes a stainless steel cup for the standard Grayl. A little cheaper alternative.
One thing I have noticed with my Grayl: Be sure to push all the way down, you might even want to give it a downward twist at the end. I have unfiltered water leak out when tipping the grayl to pour water from it, or drink from it. The last thing you want to do is contaminate your drinking water from a leak.
Hey friend🙂 I have heard of others having this problem. I found a response to a video with something to help with this. Get food grade silicone grease. Put a very thin film around the part that seals at the top. It’s inexpensive and it does help🙂👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Pulling out the centre piece completely and tipping away any unfiltered water left in the main container also helps (although it’s a bit of a pest I admit).
@@Ian.. Yeah, but probably worth the extra trouble not to contaminate your drinking water.
Why not a Sawjer one 0,01 micron!?😂
@@guillaumekeulen219 They are very slow. And you'll need a carbon filter for several of them if you want to get rid of the 'flavors' from various water sources. Grayl is all one.
Thanks for guinea-pigging your Titanium Geopress for us Mr. Wowak , it's good to know it holds up to the fire test ! ! !
You ruined the video for me.
@@charliedelta1136
That's on you.
Next time don't read the comments.
This was a nice "actual world" test. Thanks!
I love the Grayl. With your experiment as a reference, I may go for the Titanium model now.
especially with the thermal conductivity of titanium, it shouldn't get appreciably above 212F/ 100C, which is nothing for titanium. I do appreciate making sure though, and I wasn't aware of the product before. so, thank you.
I've had Sawyers and many other types of filter/sterilization systems. I happily carry a Grayl these days. The speed, simplicity, and thoroughness of filtration is second to none. Try it before you knock it, people.
Got the long stainless steel cup from Pathfinder (which was made in colaboration with Grayl, which is hard to come by in Germany). The Geopress nests inside of that long cup, but it makes the whole thing just so much more heavy, than it already was, without that stainless steel cup. I recently saw the titanium version as well and thought that sounds like an alternative, but then I saw the price tag and though, "I'm good. Just deal with it.".
If you want Pathfinder gear, you can check
militarysklad dot cz (YT won't let me post a link) and search Pathfinder.
They usually a lot of their gear including their bed roll etc.
I'm pretty sure they ship to Germany.
I got a vargo funnel flask. Its my actual edc, I don't buy 33cl plastic flasks anymore for my kid and he loves to drink out of this. It fits like a glove in every pocket. I boiled water to test it and it works (without the silicone cap) for like real emergancys, also made tea on the go with esbit tablets xd. If i go hiking I use a 3 liter kathadyn sack. Much cheaper and does work. I used it when I did the GR, simple without tubes, just fill the sac and push to the filter. I think the price and bulk is overkill on this product.
The weight difference between a stainless cup and a titanium one is negligible. I remember buying a Pathfinder titanium cup and bottle after having bought the stainless ones and the price really is NOT worth it. You won't regret saving your money.
Seems like the stainless cup is also bigger diameter and volume. I worry the Ti Geopress is too narrow for some stoves, especially since it will be top heavy on a canister. I get the campfire scenario, but very unlikely where I live.
Dave Canterbury has a video showing the difference between the Titanium Grayle and the Stainless Grayle (when the filter is wet) is 4 oz. Buy what you can afford. Personally I'm to poor to buy junk! It doesn't appear either option is bad.
I'm a PA resident and yes it is hot 🔥 this week
I'm from KY,it's hot here too!!!
I'm in KS, this is just summer for us.😢
Hey Dan, I love the Grayl…add a Mill Bank Bag as a pre filter and you have a good wilderness water system.
Cheers
i know a guy that lives in an area with high clay soil. he said adding a mill bank bag to his Grayl filter press doubled the life of the filter.
@@PlayaSinNombreyep, it's true. I've done it.
You can also just put a bandana or T-shirt over the Grayl water collection to prefilter and save money and space in your pack.
I’ve had the smaller Grayl Titanium for a year that’s been through many fires and still works perfect. Great video Dan. One thing to mention is water filtered by your Grayl has zero taste. Ditch water will taste like bottled water.
I love my grayl filter bottles, they are a little expensive but work great and I've never gotten sick using them
I'm rocking a Sawyer with smart water bottle and transferring to my single walled clean canteen
Hell yeah I love my two grayl. Titanium and nesting cup is on my list
Personnallly I like the Sawyer Squeeze combined with a smart water bottle.
Grayl is only famous because someone famous used it. It’s too expensive and the refills too. For what it is.
Does Sawyer filter viruses?
@@blueoutside3394
Grayl refills?
@@relicpathfinder2800 yes they do.
@@relicpathfinder2800 the replacement filters. lol
As long as there is water in the container it will only get so hot. But without water it will change. I worked on wildfires for over 30 years. In feeding firefighters, we would provide hot water I assigned an inmate to be the one who provided hot water. He got sidetracked and the 1/4” thick aluminum kettle boiled dry. We had molten metal on the ground because of no water to cool it.
This is a titanium container and has different heat tolerances than aluminum. Not saying it would withstand a forest fire, but it's not the same material.
An inmate?
@@rockonwinkYeah 😂 probably one Kamala harris chose not to release to fight wild fires LOL
I've had various titanium pots over about 17 years and I've always heat treated them by boiling water over low heat, empty trust with medium heat before releasing over high heat.
@@ozquark8384 Titanium just warps with high heat, same with thin stainless pots.
I’m glad they have a metal one. That peaks my interest for more than the plastic one.
Stay hydraded, stay in the woods
In Germany we say:
Endlich mal wieder ein Bier trinken im Wald
😂😂😂
Yes!
Nice! 😉
Brooklyn lager might be the best lager in that part of the woods.. I’d look for a better beer.
@@DThomas1976Du sollst gscheiter trinken, nicht mehr lagern 😉!
I have a Grayl and its awesome
I have one! It’s so nice to have
Great information as always. Thank you 😊
Thank You For Sharing, Dan. Excellent Presentation, As Always !
The Grayl has been all over YT for some years now, I was using my MSR Guardian and did NOT plan on switching. Got in prepper mode one night, this was on sale plus I had a coupon, I'm thinking of the drinking water source on our property and how the Grayl filters chemicals too...damn it I bought one! The titanium model! What a timely video! Bought two extra filters for it so that should last a while until I get a more permanent filtration system set up. You know, for when the world ends. 🤣
Keep one in my ‘get home bag’ incase I ever need to hoof it home ^^
The end is nigh.
The end is about 3 months away! ( Canadian prepper, and others)
Thanks for another great video.
I seen them. I thought about getting one and thank you for the demo. And the information too.
Another great video. Thanks
Good info. Glad I checked it out
👍👍👍👍👍👍 Great presentation Dan. ----Michigan. Was 94 here today.
😊thanks Dan😊
Wow, thank you for this, very informative and useful.
Excellent information, I appreciate your videos
Waited for this video, thanks for making it!
Great video
Thanks for Sharing
SRO offers a SS nesting cup for the GeoPress as well. Add a millbank bag and you’re golden.
😂 I don't think anyone thinks you're He-Man or Hercules! 💯
Great Video as always, thanks Dan. I'm a big fan of the Grayl, I have 2. 🍻👍
awesome video
I’ve done almost all my backpack hunting and trekking in the mountains from CO-AK using a scarf to filter and a steri-pen. For large bladders I use aqua tabs. They are small, takes up little room and works every time. It may not taste good but you will survive and not get sick. I’ve used this method for years always works, saves space.
A Titanium cup basically
Well, it doesn't appear to be a titanium medical implant device. So yes it may very well be a cup.
I have used a Grayl for a couple of years, it a great tool. I'm interested in the titanium version, thanks!
Grayls are awesome I have drank out of mud puddles for 3 days with zero issues.
Waiting for a waxed canvas holster with a belt loop and shoulder strap to come out for the geopress.
Looks like a great item mate
It will be interesting to see how well these hold up over time.
I've had the Grayl for years now and Really Love it..I have seen the titanium version but price wise expensive. I also have the Cup as my system. Recently bought the Mulbank bag just for the Grayl..because I my area silky water would clogged this filter in no time at all. Great video as always..saving my coins ..will be purchasing this titanium version ASAP.
Most people doing a lot of filtering will use a sawyer squeeze, katadyn befree or similar. Super light, cheap, fast and can be rigged into a gravity system for large volumes.
I’d like to see some drop tests on both the plastic and Ti versions for see if one dents more easily than the other.
Ti pots warp pretty easily if you get them dry on a fire. The Ti option seems more like a gimmick than anything else and not cheap!
I have the grayl and bought the stainless steel nesting cup for it, better option in my opinion
Been wondering about using the cup as a kettle. It's like you read my mind. Now I know .
Thank You .
Great review! I’ve been thinking of getting a Grayl, but I may grab the one with the steel container just to have that as a back-up.
I’ve used a Grayl for years in this and several other countries. Easy to pack and pretty much bulletproof. I’ve even strapped it onto my mountain bike or off-road motorcycle and have never damaged it. I recently got the Ti version and expect it to be just as good, but with more versatility as you state. He original one I have will see secondary duty in my get-home bag. As far as price, do you need to spend this much? No, but if you can, you can. Love how some will spend near a $1000 on a tent or thousands on pew pews, but complain about something that will be most likely to kill you if you get it wrong.
Remember if using any filter that if used in winter to not let it freeze. Because it will expand and ruin it's capability to effectively disinfect your water.
That's an awesome filter!
I hope I can say it! Grayl great product, Dave made it better. Pathfinder Grayl cup and bottle set, fixed all that.
Follow David Canterbury's advice and use a Millbank bag to remove turbidity before pressing.
Pathfinder put out a Grayl nesting cup that is incredible. It’s like a Viking mug and nests perfectly with the big Grayl. It’s actually my favorite camp/home mug.
Awesome! I purchased the life straw, but thinks the Grayle would be better because of the option of pouring water into other containers... got it on my list to buy next. Thanks!
awesome thanks!
I like the Grayl concept but its major flaw is that if the seals are damaged or the 'cup' is deformed, the ability to filter water is effectively negated.
I have found a product via another CZcamsr (Stephen J Reid) that does everything the Grayl does, but it's a 42mm cartridge that you can screw into HydraPak/Katadyn/CNOK bottles, etc. They're called Pure Clear filters. They're reasonably priced and a really good option so that you don't have to boil, and they filter viruses (which Sawyer/Katadyn/Platypus/Hydrapak, etc. do not).
Dave Canterbury makes a stainless steel cup that fits over the standard Grail. So you can still have your Grail and a separate cup to boil water or make food in. I'm not saying that the titanium version isn't cool it's very cool but if you already have the standard Grail it's a small expense to get the stainless steel cup
here in south west Florida it's over 90 degrees every day........also you have to really look at what your filter will remove from the water.....In the swamp, you can get sick really fast drinking from natural sourses.
Cooool.
Well I wouldn't use this to boil water but I really have to get me the titanium version!
I put this on top of my to do list. 😊
🔆
Being able to boil also lets you save the filter for when you can’t boil in an extended survival situation.
"Being able to boil let's you save the filter when you can't boil" ... What?
I press it without the top on. No back pressure plus over time plastics gets brittle. Top off protects the threads.
Super hot in new york as well. And I work outside. So stay safe. Stay hydrated. But when it comes to filters I prefer the sawyer mini. Dual threaded. The grayl is usless in winter and thatd when I do most of my camping. I have a chinesr knockoff version of the grayl. I could see it being okay in the summer. But it's just too big to stuff in an inner pocket to keep it from freezing.
It will be nice to know how well it will hold over time with the usage + the regular campfire
He-Man, as a young lad. ;-)
Perfect timing, Dan. I was looking at these the other day and wondering how reliable that extra $100 investment would be if I put it in the fire. Thank you for taking the time to show us what happens! Stay in the woods...
Just make sure the cup has cooled before you re insert the filter housing.
Spendy unit!
My man! Drinkin' some Brooklyn!
Good video. I have the Grail but for me I prefer having the separate Grail nesting cup that you can get. Only problem for me is that if that cup got bent and you might be screwed that's why I think I'll just stick with my separate nesting cup that you can buy
We have hot summers here 35C+ for several months. Talking about beer. I often carry a can (not bottle) of zero alcohol beer that has been traditionally brewed on hot days, just in the pack or bicycle basket. it has to be zero alcohol. It is a good source of electrolytes, carbs, energy and some minerals if it has been made using traditional methods. Drinking it warm is not a big deal, you are taking it for its food value not to have a cold beer. And being in a can, you can crush the empty can to a small size. It does not replace water. If you read the label and know your dietary needs, it can be a useful part of an adventure.
Stay hydrated boss , If your into extreme summer heat come visit Arkansas right now.
No such thing as too much gear lol Also I need that hat sir!
The plastic bottle, you can boil water in it, don't let the flame get above the water, a paper cup can also boil water, don't let the flame get above the water.
Think I'll hydrate too brother.
See when I dude goes out and spends his hard earned money to test out a product so we don’t have to defiantly deserves a like and subscribe
The problem with the Grayl is that the filters only last for a very short time and the filter replacements are HUGELY expensive.
Only problem with the titanium Grayl is if you accidentally drop it/bang it/etc and the titanium bends, the filter won't work (at least not well). I opted to stick with the original non-titanium Grayl filter and either nest it with a stainless or titanium cup, or double up with a stainless steel 40oz Klean Kanteen.
"My daddy Roboyto died of da dehydration ." Wawawa Waterbooy. 😂
My dude is talking about the msr ceramic filter that has all the tubes and sucks. its 1lb dry and 2lbs wet and slow and a pain to clean. Im a sawyer man now, and get the $3 coupling to make a gravity filter and ease backflusing. Happy trails
i will say I like its less microplastics
The Grayl is a good filter. Superior to the Sawyer filters. But the Grayl UltraPress Ti comes at a much greater expense…retails at over $200. So, I guess it is about what you can afford to use. I appreciate your honest review.
I’ll keep my sawyers. $20 a pop plus they help get clean water around the world. The only time I spent a lot of money on a filter was when I got my sawyer sp122
Does it filter viruses?
Yeah it ought not be a problem. Titanium is known for handling a high thermal load & dispersing heat really well.
Neighbor in Ohio here... yeah, stuck to thighs hot right now. Real humid too... just got rained on with clear skies too... gross humid.
Brooklyn Brewing makes some good beer
Took about 38 seconds, Mr. Superman 🦸
Did the filtered water taste like smoke? Great video my wife has one of the old school plastic Grayl filters. I like that metal one.
And I'm still waiting on your canoe videos
But Dan, you forgot to mention that the titanium grayl costs $50,000.00 more than a simple Sawyer Squeeze to make the same amount of water safe to drink....
That's alot of money!
Lmao the sawyer fan boys are always whining about grayl
That comparison is ridiculous, instead you should compare the Sawyer plus a titanium bottle with the titanium Grayl since the Sawyer is terrible for carrying and boiling water (it doesn't, obviously) while the Grayl can filter, boil and carry water.
The Grayl is still more expensive but it's a lot closer in price than unfairly comparing a Sawyer Squeeze with a complete water setup.
@rancidcrawfish not so much, but I do enjoy my brand new Mustang GT and Sawyer squeeze alot more than paying the same price for the Grayl.
Life is all about choices. I chose the Mustang GT and the Sawyer squeeze over that fancy ass Grayl you brag about.
Bottom line is grail filter removes virus and chemicals . Sawyer is just a filter Grayl is a purifier.
@swe_nurse8121 you're kidding right? I mean I can certainly buy a titanium cup to go with my Sawyer squeeze with the $50,000.00 dollars I save by not buying the Grayl.... holy cow!
I have several different kinds of filters system for water
So, beer too right??? 😉
cool thanks
I have a silocone funnel. Coffee filters. Pre strain as I fill into a 2lt bladder. The bladder is a USMC surplus can be a Lil backpack type thing.
Sit make a cuppa eat. Hang your bladder with a sawyer mini inline. Eat as your bottles fill. Fill the bladder sit it under the top of your pack lid. Drink from that as you go along and you still got as many bottles as you filled earlier from the bladder earlier. Tbh I think I'd be the same as a geopress.
I think geopress katydyn pump etc etc just gets too complicated and heavy. A sawyer mini inline. Add a spare and extra bladder if it's getting old as a spare it's lighter cheaper more functional overall
I have the original large sized with a stainless nesting cup (with lid). I liked that they now make the larger sized in titanium, but was also wondering how well it would last due to warping or worse, dropping it and breaking due to brittleness.
Those things are boat anchors. I have one. It's huge and it's heavy and it's just kind of ridiculous. Just get the Sawyer squeeze. It's light and it always works. You could even bring a life straw as back up but you'll never need it. Idk why "Bushcraft channels" always push the Grayl. And the filter doesn't even last long at all and it's not cheap to replace.
got a Steel nesting cup .... from Pathfinder that's made to fit the grayl
I have both sizes of the regular Grayl. My concern would be denting the titanium and then it maybe stopping too soon, ripping the gasket or allowing dirty bypass.
@coalcracker, If you ever want some WV homebrew, let me know, I'm near Pittsburgh... I can make it happen.
Might be worth a separate boiling cup, I would suspect the warping would happen after multiple boils.. hopefully it works fine..would just suck to suddenly lose your ability to filter.