Hollow Knight But It's Only The Hitboxes
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2023
- I saw that a mod was created recently that allows you to play through Hollow Knight without visuals, by only showing the hitboxes and nothing else. I decided it would be a fun challenge, as well as a way to have some fun with chroma keying, enjoy!
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thanks for boxing - Hry
This is like the "would you love me if I was a worm" thing but with a videogame.
Whenever someone mentions that meme I always think of totk lol
@@Froggycolouringman if you haven't seen the last tear cutscene that would make no sense 😂
@@somenameidk5278I've seen it and I still was confused for a minute 😅
Except for Zelda it’s more of a wyrm
“would you love me if i was a pale wyrm”
Skuury is going so insane without Silksong that they deleted Hollow Knight from the game Hollow Knight
My favourite part of Hollow Knight was when the Hollow Knight went "I AM TEH HBOLLOQ KNKGHERT" and Hollow Knighted all over the place. 10/10 epic changed my life
"umm actually they have a man's voice so its actually him" ☝️🤓
@@muitacoisagus”That is very true good that you agree”☝️🤓
@@muitacoisagus I'm not really sure if this is well-intentioned or not but this is a wild thing to comment
Now its just Hollow without the Knight
since the yellow rectangle isn't filled in i guess one might call it a *hollow-*
And since it's have some kind of shield-shape weapon. I suggest he is a *knight*
Here before this blow up
hollow rectangle, of course!
=(
He's not actually the hollow knight, the final boss is
Combine this with an enemy randomiser for absolute hell.
You are evil lmao
lol that would make enemy rando actually watchable for me since I have a weird phobia for distorted sprites
Better yet, a room randomiser
@@aaronking2020better yet all 3
rectangle randomizer
this is how you watch a playthrough of a game without spoiling yourself
only way you could be spoiled is through the audio
I thought you said soiling
Wow. I didn't believe others when they said Hollow Knight is beautiful, but now I see how right they were. You can tell one of the devs is a professional animator.
Lmao
The amount of detail they packed into every scene really shows how much passion they had for the game
★★★★★
“Truly a never before seen beautiful gaming experience unlike any other with timeless graphics”
-Somebody probably
@pingoz9705 oh yeah, especially the stairs in the corner of the room
@@Pingoz cringe
no mind to think.
no will to break.
no sprite to observe suffering.
born of yellow and rectangle.
Skurry wondering why they're all squares when they are clearly called hit BOXES and not hit BALLS
Hit balls? Uhh no thanks
please don't hit balls :(
hit spheres where it's at my dudes, stay safe with your balls intact
Balls are way easier to say then spheres though
I felt pain reading this
This unironically gives me a good idea for a video game. It’s a Metroidvania but the further you go into the game, the worse the graphics get until you’re left with just hit boxes and it’s entirely, so in the end, the more you play the game, the more you have to interpret stuff yourself. Or the opposite of that idea who cares.
The opposite might also work, an Ender’s Game style horror where you start with a really simple set of boxes and it slowly becomes more detailed until it’s revealed that you’re really not the good guy at all… just an idea!
Check out the Evoland games, they're exactly what you're describing, just not a Metroidvania.
@@addyce6005brilliant
opposite the upgrades are unlocking visuals and mechanics tied to them
I loved these games growing up--unlocking not just upgrades, but better visuals, etc
Hollow Knight never looked this good, it's like the Knight is really there
Not so fast this time, SemiHypercube
it really makes you feel like spiderman
It’s terrifying to see how large the knight’s nail hitbox is like dang that’s, much bigger than I thought
:3
@@laarman.>:3
Generally speaking, there will be some discrepancy between the size of the hitbox and the size of the sprite, to add a bit of built-in leniency to the game. Notice, for example, how small the player's hitbox is vs. the hurtbox of their attacks. As a side note, it's funny and fitting that the hitboxes of the Radiance's attacks are perfectly modeled, because that means there is absolutely no leniency to her attacks. You might expect it to be a box that's slightly smaller than the size of the spike's sprites, but no, you'll get hurt the moment you touch the exact sprite
Ive always wondered about the attack hitboxes for bosses ESPECIALLY the second hit of the 3 hit combo attack
Edit just saw the hitbox at 23:42 and my god that is disgusting
It looks like you could stand in there lol
@@adre2194if only
I wasn't ready for invisible Radiance with perfectly shaped attacks. I guess no-telegraph radial beams were to be expected, but it's still terrifying.
I have a hard time believing the Knight's hurtbox is so small
he a smol bean
wait till you hear about the player hitbox in bullet hell games
it's so the combat feels better because you only take damage on hits where you're like "yup that was a hit"
@@lexacutablethe thiccest women in touhou carrying the most miniscule hitboxes
@@lexacutableI'm not good at interpreting them in thoes games
Skurry screaming "The circles! The circles are chasing me!" makes them sound absolutely deranged.
He always has been
@@Medved- they*
@@1th_to_comment.?
@@TeroTheHer0 skurry uses they/them not he/him
@@oatmeal3013 🙃
“This is just how speedrunners see the game.”
> Elder Bug doesn’t even show up
I dunno, sounds right to me
The empty rectangle slamming into the ground kills me every time
Wow, Thomas Was Alone has much different gameplay than I remember
Stole my joke haha
The sequel is looking real sick
JESUS that’s a throwback
Wow, wasn’t expecting to see a Thomas Was Alone reference
Very ballsy move on Skurry’s end to have the backgrounds be hardcore furry porn during the stream but later edit them for the CZcams video as normal backgrounds, but respectable nonetheless
💀
I knew this footage looked edited!
THIS IS SO VIEWER FRIENDLY
I find it interesting how you can clearly see the more complex hitboxes laid directly over the blocky placeholder geometry, which were probably only made after the art assets were finalized. I bet there’s some weird parts where they intersect that are exploitable.
The lower corners of the Uumuu rectangle look like they can get hit even when it's in the round phase, if you angle something just right
Unless there's some layer of invulnerability over it at those times
@@diethylmalonate There should be invulnerability. If only thing that matters was hitting the rectangle hitbox, spells would've be able to damage it as they hit in AoE.
i'm so happy that there are some circle hitboxes
Now we need oddly specific hit boxes
@@glareninjaarent the walls oddly specific?
@@daviioyeah, a lot of the curved ceilings couldn't be made with actual curves so they just randomly segment lines together
@@daviioSpecific, but not in a particularly odd way
The hornet 1 fight goy me thinking - a HK mod where all the art is replaced by ms paint art would be amazing
I wonder how didnt anyone make something like this before
Maybe the main reason is assetflip for this game would be a HUGE task.
@@elizabethnessie580But like people have done more
It's amazing how many places are immediately recognizable even just from the hitboxes and sounds.
Guys I think skurry needs silksong before they go even more insane
Finally, a spoiler-free playthrough
The reason the hit boxes for enemies are all rectangular is so that you can reliably hit them from the same distance. Attacks can be different shapes since the focus is on dodging.
And the Hollow Knight extra rectangle is the raised sword.
Loved your choice of pictures! Anyone else playing this would have been boring, but you always know how to make things fun
Honestly I was expecting to tune out after a few minutes but that really did keep me interested.
Fr tho! Like, I figured they had a special mod so we could see the normal game. I never even CONSIDERED chromakeying the background out, but it makes perfect sense
I wonder if community will become sane again once silksong releases?..
At least some of the damage is probably permanent.
it'll be like r/Pikmin, they'll just have more stuff to be insane about
According to the hitboxes, Hollow Knight’s got that Hash Slinging Slasher posture
Lmao??
1. Looks like an entirely different game
2. Can’t wait for the randomizer of this
They said be there or be square and skurry didn’t feel line going
hi blue!
Skurry you're scaring me.
you should be afraid, skurry is a menace
@@Foolish_Spoon Skurry is very skurry
They're going insane in waiting for Silksong
Slurry you're slurring me
Skurry you're skurring me
"mom can we get silksong?"
But we already have silksong at home
*Silksong at home*
Crazy how abyss shriek is just side hitboxes without a middle one
They do have a middle. It is just so big that every time skurry uses it, it goes off screen. Thus, it looks like it has no middle
9:45
Fun fact about colliders from a gamedev perspective actually:
Circle / sphere colliders are the cheapest type on processing power! Broken down, all they really are is a distance check between their center point and other colliders :D
Shouldn't box colliders be cheaper, since you only have to compare a few numbers and don't have to do any arithmetic?
@@matiasgarciacasas558 So, the way that box colliders work is that they need to compare between multiple different points, seeing if they intercept, as well as the "lines" between the points.
I can't really explain it that well in a comment here without it ending up super long, but if you're interested, happycoding has a pretty good explanation on collision detection stuff plus some examples you can see in the browser (it is decently long though)
There's also some comparison videos on CZcams to see the performance between sphere / box / mesh colliders in Unity (which is the engine Hollow Knight runs on) if you're not as interested in the technical side of things, but at the end of the day, it takes a *lot* to actually make a 2D game struggle performance wise from colliders anyways :P
@@matiasgarciacasas558 both are pretty cheap. Box-box collision requires some conditional branching, where circle-circle requires some multiplies without branching. More annoying edge cases are box-circle collision ( due to the corners) or rotated box collision (much more complex than aligned box collision)
@@CensoredUsername_ branching for box-box case is not actually needed, vectorization is trivial as all is needed is point coordinate relation check and then ANDing all of those, even without SIMD it's possible. circle-circle might be costlier actually, as euclidian distance calculation requires power of two and square root operations, but those are intrinsic in modern cpus, so, both are pretty cheap in the end and of constant cost.
@@tochka832 good point, you can just and those. But that said, circle-circle collision doesn't need square root either, as you can instead just compare the squared distance with the squared sum of radii. As while multiply is very fast on modern processors, accurate square root is still significantly slower.
Its really interesting to see all the different hit boxes and it looks really cool and abstract without the art
Okay so the reason why circular hitboxes are a bit rare is due to the fact that it is actually more computationally expensive than boxes (essentially, the more edges an object has, the less optimal it is). Unless an attack demands it (for example, Hornet's string field would feel jank as heck if it was a box), it's better to just use squares or triangles.
Edit: I'm super glad I made this comment. The replies have been really informative!
Not necessarily. Collisions with circles can be calculated quite quickly, it is not necessary to use a many-sided polygon. It depends on how the collision calculation is implemented. Normally calculating collisions between 2 circles is the fastest to compute among all pairs of 2D shapes.
@@alejandrocoria Thanks for sharing!
but circles arent made of edges
@@brandtyee6257well yes, but actually no. When you are modelling any plane/ surface, it is made up out of lines. That's what any 3D model will look angular if you look close enough
Not like these are the actual hitboxes in the game files, or I assume not because there are things you can interact with here that don't have a hitbox.
These were some of the most intense boxing matches I've ever seen.
Is it crazy that as a unity dev I am actually learning a lot from this vid... your nail hitbox is HUGE in this game.
That “Baldur” Gate joke was top notch, lol.
Fun fact: circles are quite easy to compute. There is a neat equation of which logical value tells you if something is within the circle, namely (x-a)^2 + (y-b)^2
Pythagorean theorem my beloved 😍
I am in awe of how perfectly modeled hornet’s nail is
Dude holy shit. Hollow Knight content will never die
Honestly seeing this game simplifed like that really inspres into making ganes and helps with understanding it
If someone beat any radiant but only the hit box, I swear Team Cherry is forced to release silk song at that point
Watching this makes me feel like the level designers accidentally drew their first draft for the map layout using the magic pencil, so it came to life
Lmao hollowbox is where skurry has descended to
Yeah he’s going insane waiting for silksong😂
circle is so rare (or any non-rectangles you can interact with) because slope collision is hard to integrate and team cherry wanted to put their broke manpower elsewhere
I am reminded of "Thomas was alone", but making a game like this looks like a great idea for aspiring game devs
Skurry’s art skills are amazing.
Now I’m tempted to actually make a game that’s just hitboxes. Some backgrounds for different areas and such as well. Could maybe make some cool gameplay things with it..
Funny thing about this is that you can't even be like, NO WAY THAT HIT ME!
Behold, Hollow Knight, optimized to its core components
Nu-uh theres still sound
We've ascended beyond Gorb just because we're mad of waiting for Silksong
Finally some actual silksong content
Honestly it's just neat to see how different the game is just by removing the graphics.
Drawing Hornet's arena just killed me, i was not prepared for that!
man this really brings back memories, this probably was my favorite game on the atari classics disc as a kid
the amount of details they put into each frame is insane
I do actually really want to see what that weird spot looks like in the normal game.
This vod was a trip to watch, happy to get to revisit this now for the highlights
Man, the Thomas Was Alone DLC goes hard. Mike Bithell really outdid himself.
This is funny but most importantly it's incredibly informational
I really wish more videos like this existed
It is good that Zote finaly was a worthy oponent outside of dreams.
finally, the sequel I was waiting for Thomas Was Alone
I feel like this is what Thomas Was Alone would be like as a metroidvania
A bold decision from the developer to add combat to the long awaited sequel to Thomas Was Alone.
now we know why speedrunners skips elder bug. They literally cant see him
I assume the reason most colliders are square is for consistency. Imagine trying to consistently bounce on an enemy, but every time they move slightly horizontally it changes the timing of your interactions.
It'd turn a fun and simple mechanic into something more complex you have to train on.
It's also just easier to make a square hitbox for things.
New video idea: Guess the room from only hitboxes!
Really loved Zord’s small touches here and there. Brings a smile to my face:)
I’m guessing the dark blue-purple rectangles are respawn checkpoints for loading back into the game or falling into spikes
For those like me who would like to know the name of the track in the intro, it's "Time and Space" by Bill Kiley
the different backgrounds made me laugh really hard, great choices
This would be so so cool to see in rain world!!! Especially with the physics-based sprites
I want a hollow knight hitbox randomizer
AMOGUS on thumbnail
Get out of my head get out of my head
2:02
This make so much sense, no wonder speedrunner don’t talk to Elderbug
I’m curious to know what this looks like in path of pain
And just like that, Skurry will eat for another month
Seeing how the sausage gets made like this is really cool. I’d love it if it gets updated to actually show everything.
Alt title: we made the hollow knight even more hollow.
Skurry is really no stranger to love
We're approaching Punch Out style blindfolded speedruns here, I'd love to see if someone could somehow do a full run of that
this actually looks kind of awesome lol, i think with the right stylization i could see a game with this as the art style working
First video I witnessed on stream, great job Skurry!
Barebones Hollow Knight looking ridiculously silly xD
the background trolling in stream was hilarous
Thank you for the amazing run content. your videos have helped me through a really hard time, also you have an amazing voice.
For a lot of this, the hitboxes feel like it actually makes it easier
So how does that one weird collider look like in the actual game?
LET'S GO! I love you skurry!
The best part of this video for me is that I haven't even this game played outside of like 10 second clips here and there. So I have no clue what is going on lol.
the images in the bg add so much to this video this video is so meaningul to me omg THANK U FOR POSTING SKURRY TEEHEE
soo funny love this skurry!!!
Wherein the National Geographic logo engages in platforming and combat with other colored geometric shapes.
Somehow I know exactly what's going on in every single part, that's amazing. Just goes to show how much of a memorable game hk is. I haven't touched it since 2020 I think. I loved seeing how the hitboxes work. Thanks for this summary of the live!
Watched the vod of this one, cant wait to watch this!!!