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I am on a different mindset. Not a completist or tire of any line by any company. With so many out there and you are right unless you have unlimited money it’s totally subjective. I don’t call myself a collector even if I am near 1500 transformers. I have had them since I was a kid and as I got older I started working and buying more but then third companies came along and it gave us choice. I buy for the build, aesthetic, material and from time to time scale. I am always in on combiners, still my favorite sub group. I remember a time when the well was very dry so I am enjoying all the moments that I can have. It’s not just about shelving it and displaying it, I generally get around to playing with them and that’s my greatest joy so the talk of abandoning any collection is futile because I am a fan first and a kid at heart second and even if I had them all I still wouldn’t tire of them because to me it’s a love not a collection. Collectors imo tend to miss out on what it is to enjoy the toys. Just saying you have it and check it off a list to me is not enjoying what you bought but enjoying the hunt and buying and I am definitely not the latter
OK that is your opinion and I have to politely accept and respect it but from my point of view you're a collector that likes to play with your collection, nothing less but nothing more. Owning near to 1500 TF figures is a bit more then just something you enjoy to play with, if that isn't collecting then nothing else is. For me the only time collecting isn't love is when it becomes an obsession, other then that it's love all the way. Just because you enjoy it in a different way or enjoy some parts of collecting more the others doesn't transform your collection into love or other ppl collections and different way of enjoying them into something less valuable it only means it's different. I had to comment because, even though I believe it may not be intentional, your comment sounded somewhat pretentious, like your way of collecting is love, it's the true way of enjoying your collection and as such it's better then all the other ways. I also enjoy it in a different way then the 4 dummies described but I don't think my way is the way, it's just my way nothing else and ofc for me and every one who agrees with me my way, that in that case becomes our way, is better.
AMEN brotha!!!!
I don’t get the completionist mentality. Maybe it ties back to my childhood and not having an entire line of anything, but if I get my favorite characters represented then I’m totally fine. Do I throw it all away because I don’t get a single figure? No, because my love for the franchise/property is greater than a sense of having every single one.
Not gonna lie, when your wife called your collecting benchmark neurotic and psycho, I chuckled. She's a keeper.
How do I feel about abandoning my collection? Like the great American Charlton Heston said "out of my cold, dead hands."
People are gonna have to either steal them from me or shoot me to have my collection. It'll probably be that they steal them though.
Those Trans F that where in the Diaramma at the begging, love the diaramma bits.
I don't collect for value or for completion; I collect for nostalgia. If MP Transformers suddenly stopped being made then my collection has lost future potential, but has lost nothing retroactively; I still love what I've bought. I find the "time to get rid of it" reaction really bizarre. If you didn't collect it because you loved it then I think your motive was flawed to begin with. I think this is why people get dissatisfied with their collections: their motivation was always flawed.
Paul Spurgeon Same reason people get dissatisfied with relationships lol
Same here, and well said. Also think the "characters I don't like" comment was a bit overstated. I like all of the characters in my collection, some I like more, others I like less, and I might like a character more in the animation than the toy representation, I might like a toy representation more than the character in the animation. My tastes might even change so far as characters because I find as an adult watching the animation it's as much about the personalities of the different characters as it is anything else. So when I look at my collection, I'm still amazed how these designers brought all these animated characters to life as transformable 3-D representations I could only dream of for most of my life. I have similar feelings with movies like the Lord of the Rings Trilogy which up until then impossible from a technological perspective to achieve anywhere near the immersion of realism through computer generated effects throughout the entire film. Like TF, the LotR movies will always have a nostalgic vibe with me.
I think collecting along the way is key to providing the necessary resources and demand for the evolution of the line and therefore supply to continue.
For instance, had no one ever purchased the initial 3rd party combiner releases, we would have never arrived at Toy World’s Constructor.
Similar to the same way I don’t regret purchasing all of the late 90’s and early 2000’s 3 3/4 Star Wars because it lead to vintage collection, and then black series and then 6” and then SH Figuarts and so on.
Essentially, collecting along the way is making the evolution possible.
No quitters Here! great talk!
The way you guys talk about collecting makes it sound more like a chore than a hobby. I hate having an incomplete team (like 4 Dinobots) but I wouldn't abandon my collection if no more MP figures were made.
I agree collecting should be for fun not out of obligation for a company or a series. I would rather have 5 figures I like instead of 50 that i don't really care about. Toys aren't meant to be displayed and forgotten about.
@@notgray88 I'm enjoying the *process* of collecting Masterpiece. I'm not looking forward to finishing.
The diorama you have for the stunticons is the fucking shit. Love that display
This is one of the better collecting videos i've seen content wise. Cool discussion!
Try and stay away from "lines" and just collect characters I like.
Same here. I'm just trying to get my top 5 favorite characters. Star Saber, Astrotrain, and Cyclonus I still need to get, but I already have Masterpiece Ramjet and Roadking, so my collection is about halfway done. I couldn't care less about what company makes it, as long as it's a decent Masterpiece with diecast parts and a good transformation/alt.
Same. The only thing I’m actually by definition collecting is Star Wars and that’s only because I love most of the characters
Yup. I´m super selective and don´t complete S1, 2, or movie. I just wanna have those the most appealing to me, in rememberance of my childhood and I´m super happy about that. Gives me some good time to breath in between getting pieces.
Tim Kay's Nerd Crate yep. Like for my comic book characters... I’m buying from the mafex comic line.... and mezco. not everyone but only the characters I truly want like the Spider-Man and Batman. And for transformers I just have the big 3 with starscream, thundercracker, skywarp, cause to me are my favorite deceptions
@@nickw3132 Good call. That´s where I wanna go, with Mafex and also Mezco. Like, Mafex I wanna have Venom, Carnage and Spidey and Mezco I want that Gambit. So good.
I quit collecting period a few years ago. Cost started going up on masterpiece and 3rd parties yet quality went way down.i just now watch all the skull face vids.its sad the state of companies qc and price are now
I'm curious, what 3P companies do you see as the ones who have gone down in quality?
Dude get back into collecting. The KO market is off the charts right now. Wei Jiang sells masterpiece sized Hasbro figures for the same price as some Voyagers. MP KOs are cheaper than dirt, and there's even KOs of third party toys. Why pay more when some $80 transformer looks almost as good as Takaras $300 one?
@@2dbeats3d it's a crap shoot every time you pre order no matter that company anymore
@@notgray88 I'm not sure if I want to honestly. I sold most of them before I moved out of state so it would take me a long time to get back what I had
No collection is fully complete however no collection is abandoned when a collector continues to display and take some pride in what they've curated and amassed.
Best line 6:25 .................. "The whole is greater than the sum of it's parts." - Bobby Skullface
I'd like to think that 3P companies probably have this same discussion with focus groups to decide what or what not to release. It's crazy to imagine that in a single year, correct predictions could earn a company a new following (Zeta and new scale combiners or Unique Toys movie line), while wrong predictions could make consumers lose interest in an entire line (Maketoys and Targetmasters, arguably Fansproject).
I'm in till the end, especially when it comes to Transformers and Star Wars, whatever that end is. I hope they make them all (I agree with you Bobby, we need a Two-Tubes!), but at the same time, I'm in for as long as they're willing to keep making them. They're being anyone that can make a quality figure.
These are sweet marvel of design. Surprisingly soulful.
Great. Now I'm thinking of which line to abandon because I definitely fight to many battles atm ^^
Great conversation. I actually just abandoned a few lines for a mixed bag of reasons. It actually feels great. Sold them and made enough to take my wife and kids to Disney World 😂. Flight, hotel, park tickets, food, and all. It’s crazy how much we spend on this stuff.
Very interesting and thoughtful.
Thanks
One thing they missed is back collecting no matter what we all have back collecting from figures we missed and my thing is once I no longer want figures from anyone that’s when I’ll stop collecting but so long as there’s figures I want I’m going to get them and lo and behold I’m still collecting
Did this/sold my transformers masterpiece, one piece pop and VKH DBZ statues, I now only have and collect 1/4 scale resin statues
Mcfarlane's Star Trek line. They stopped at Kirk and Picard. Guessing they cleared the decks for Fortnite.
And for DC and MK. That sucks man.
Felt the same about Mezco One 12. Kirk, Spock, Sulu...then nothing. I would've been happy with Kirk, Spock and McCoy and called it a day, but that didn't happen. So I enjoyed the figures a bit and then sold them and got out of Mezco One 12 Completely.
@@MrChainclaw I just wanted the same from Mcfarlane: Kirk, Spock and McCoy. Not much. Spock was announced for 2019 and then Fortnite became all the rage. On to the next shiny object in the fishbowl.
To me, that is not a problem, since I buy cool stuff, no matter where they come from, I am not attached to my collection as a whole, but I am to the individual figures.
Dude broke that pencil with extreme prejudice
I never try to factor in teams or sets or lines when I buy something because then I know that nebulous obligation of completion will sneak in. I figure I'll collect indefinitely because I just buy whatever looks rad, even if it's just another version of my favorite character.
Hey Bobby; if I may add to the conversation. It’s all about limitations. Collecting without limitations removes the rewards of collecting.
The more limitations we place the larger the reward. The most obvious being having an endpoint in mind for a given collection; however, there’s many others. For example:
Artificial financial limitations - through most of my collection I have had a price in mind that I won’t cross. The MMC Rumble and Frenzy for example. Very hard to find. I searched for months. In that time I actually found several sets, but all of them were priced above what I was willing to pay. Some of which only by a small amount. Not more than I could afford, just more than they were worth to me. So when I finally found them for a price I was willing to give, the payoff was incredible...their meaning so much greater than had I just thrown money at the first pair I saw. This artificial limitation also simulated the real pre-internet limitation of hunting down pieces at flea markets, etc.
Knowledge limitations - your Leia review is a great example. You bought somewhat blindly and savor the ups and downs of the discovery. Because of this, even if you don’t realize it, the ones that really disappoint you are every bit as important as the ones that blow your mind. The more bitter the lows, the sweeter the highs. The more you already know what to expect the less of an impact it can have either way.
There are lots of other limitations too. The more we pile on, the bigger the reward becomes.
Collecting without limitations (or with loose limitations) is no different than being addicted to cigarettes. You’re just looking for a fix. That has a tiny reward and many people become disgusted with something hey started off enjoying. Some quit, others move to a different drug. It stimulates the same part of the brain. Since it’s just a chemical response with no real emotional ties, the activity becomes hollow and the collection becomes a monument to waste and self-loathing if carried on for long enough.
Robert D. looks forward to it to the end. While I have some here and there. Mostly transformers and I'm not even close of reaching the end of collecting them. I dont even want to be that close. I dont even have the space anymore. It is just too much already. Along with the cost. It is getting ridiculous. I just need to quit somehow. Any habit can get real bad and out of control if we don't watch it.
Entertaining as always.
This makes me think of main line stuff from RID and Unicron Trilogy era. That's when I started being a collector and was buying stuff just because. Now I hold on to it because no one buys it. There are still key figures that I would keep, but most is just in the way.
The need to complete a collection of set characters when not personally invested in every character speaks of a fairly substantial neurosis. The difference between that motivation and just picking up favorite pieces is fascinating. I'm legit intrigued. Is that difference nature or nurture?
And the fact that one could walk away from a not insignificant investment if that need isn't fulfilled... Woah.
I don't think being a completionist and being a collector is not mutually exclusive. I think plenty of folks collect just what they want and don't need every character.
Is (didn't mean is not)
Great topic, I was just thinking about how I feel about what I already have. And do I want to continue, and how far do I want to go
I am in this exact situation right now. Figma has 2 My Hero Academia figures out right now with 3 more announced. I'm hesitant to start this line if I'm not sure that the whole cast won't get made. I gave in to one of the two because he's a main character and I'm afraid he'll be hard to get later, but If I have half the cast and the line stops I'm going to have a dilemma on my hands.
so it's essentially 'all or nothing' for uncle Skully & Jisk.
After getting all the G1 Decp figs, I wanted to stop collecting after I finished the DJD gang. But it's been 5 years to create 4 main characters so far. Here's to 2-3 more years waiting to complete this set.
I am personally really surprised no one has made a MP Punch/Counterpunch yet, since serious collectors would most likely purchase two...
What do I collect? Interesting transformations. And then I narrow that list and vet what I get based on how much I'm willing to spend and what characters aren't sufficiently represented yet. Like since the original 3 seekers and 3 coneheads are all just basically the same toy with different colors and wings, I would ideally like to get each jet at MP quality from different companies to have 6 different transformations. The same way I got Badcube Hoist and plan to get Fanstoys Trailbreaker.
I agree. I'm in for the promised line. I don't need every character from the entire show. For Transformers, I just want all the season 1 g1 characters. If I can complete that one collection. I'd be happy. That is why I moved to legends, that looks like I'm going to get closer with that than with MP. I already have nearly all the season 1 decepticons. Autobots area very different story but I'm closer.
That all being said. I'm out on Hastak MPs unless they correct their current direction, but don't think they are.
Whirl-the one character NO ONE remembers even less than Skids somehow. :<
I don't get into big collection lines like DB Figuarts, because F-that...over 110 figures with 20 Goku and 15 Vegeta variants. Some lines I go all in like the Kinnikuman figuarts or Koto Bishoujo statues of certain series. Other cases I just get characters I like and know of or feel would enhance what I already have.
In my case, I want some characters that are meaningful to me for some reason. Most of the time it is a character I like from the cartoon/movie, or a toy that I wanted as a child, or one that I had I liked a lot. I'm close to complete the list, but if there is a figure that I like and calls my attention I would get it. If they stop selling transformers, I'm good with it, because I got the characters I like, which is the main reason to start the collection. If they stop before I'm done, I do still care for the one I have already. It's interesting that the reasons to start collecting are as varied as the reasons to stop. There are flavors for all tastes :D Great discussion lady and gentlemen
Sooo when is jisk going to get a mic that doesn’t sound like he’s talking through a Burger King drive thru intercom? 🤷🏻♂️
I think everyone has different reasons for collecting myself it doesn't matter who the character is or what he represents but the look of the character and alt mode including transformation and if those three fit my interest and of course how well this figure is as a whole if it's thrash because of build or poor quality all this matters before I'll settle what to get, I could have different representations of one character and it doesn't bother me or the scale doesn't either cause I just want a fun good looking well put together figure. This was a really interesting question though thank you for bringing it up, always love your content !!! 🖖🤖
Truth be told, I've caught the RW gun collecting bug, and the costs of this outweigh even those of the TF MP collecting hobby. So any expansive collection dreams I might have once had regarding TFs have taken a big hit. A complete set of G1 S1 MP toys are the main goal for me. S2 and the movie are gravy. I got FT Cyclonus just because he individually is cool but I don't really have any emotional attachment to the rest of those characters. S4 came and went in the flash of an eye, so it totally holds no nostalgia for me at all. But I am getting into The Headmasters anime, so there is a chance I could develop some retroactive nostalgia for that, some day.
Almost done with MP Takara at least for the foreseeable future, no hate, just about complete with what I wanted to collect from them. Third party though, it's gonna be awhile, waiting for many releases. Looking like a big year from Fans Toys, watch them drop Astrotrain, all this talk will go away! lol
The main point of the collection is collect what you want . The problem with waiting for a “line or series or season being completed” is not everyone does that . Far less than the quantity produced of a figure are collected by completist . So in effect you will likely never see a line like transformers completed ( series wise ) for let’s say masterpiece . There are too many characters to justify that . It’s easy in a line that has a limited number of characters . And the cycle tends to repeat ; every few years the brand decided to make a new mold of a character already released because they know it’s a icon ( prime for example ) it will sell regardless . Combiners sell , power masters ...no know I know collecting really gave a crap about them lol . So it’s highly likely low selling numbers will kill off interest and possible futures releases . That’s just my take on it . I could be wrong
Size matters, fulfillment, duration, how long, satisfying, voracious, sucks, being done or just stopping, desperate, trick bag, love, keep you interested & of course boats & Ninjas. they're the words you used.
I share the mindset of, Fuck Yeah thats cool. My masterpiece line I am only collecting characters that showed up int the TF Devastation game. Granted there are a couple I have collected that are not, but that falls under the cool enough to buy window. My collection is ever evolving and I have a lot stored away due to space or value. All of my G1 is stored. Almost all of my MP is stored. Legends have kind of taken the front seat as of late. Easier to work a diorama. My CHUG figures are stored due to space as well. One day though when I finish my upstairs of my barn, I will have a battle table 24' long where I will have the room to set them up and play with them as I choose and rotate them out every so often. I will never abandon collecting though. It will just evolve like the rest. Not every episode of TF had all the bots in them and neither does my collection.
I’m a completionist on certain things. I want all G1 G2 and Movie transformer. The most cartoon accurate versions which is the only thing that isn’t complete yet. Although I have a lot. I’d say I’m 70% complete on Autobots and a Toyworld Devestator so 10% on decepticons.
Next I collect and am getting Into working on custom lightsabers (I don’t think this is something that I will ever feel is “complete” as I will always be working on or looking at a new design). I also collect marvel and dc prop replicas as well as a statue or two (not a completionist with the statues or figures of them) however I am always looking for more props that look like they came out of the comics or movies. I do however have almost everything I can co e up with short or Cerebros helmet Aquamans trident or Spider-Mans web shooters. So that’s gonna be a never ending endeavor. Looking forward to it along with other random 80s items
All of the rest below are complete collections. I don’t feel there is anything I could add to them even if I wanted to:
I collect ghostbusters prop replicas (which I have all) and the entire line of the toys with the combined gozer playset. Then I am a completionist for green and white power ranger items ( helmets weapons Morphers communicators power coins toys or figures and their Zords)All complete. My Star Trek collection is simple yet it’s all I want for my collection. Tridementional chess board ranking pips communicator phaser Data’s nureral processor chip. (All next generation)
Anyway this is probably a bore to read. I apologize. Those are my collecting habits and standards for my own collection. Till all are one. Meow.
I'm just trying to get my top 5 favorite characters. Star Saber, Astrotrain, and Cyclonus I still need to get, but I already have Masterpiece Ramjet and Roadking, so my collection is about halfway done. I couldn't care less about what company makes it, as long as it's a decent Masterpiece with diecast parts and a good transformation.
I love action figures per se, so completing a franchise isn't a thing for me. I have my "rules" and I have an idea on how I would like to display my collection and that may mean I want a specific character or a specific rendition of that character but in the end I like action figures so there is no end to my collection. I buy licensed characters but I also buy original ones like 3A, Dam Toys, AX2, Blitzway, J.T Studio, Glitch, Black 13 Park, etc. My collecting "rules" can change and adapt, they're more a set of guide lines based on my taste and the figure quality that help me choose, they are both subjective and objective. What may get me isn't a company failing to releasing all the characters from a franchise, it's when they re-release updated versions of old figures with better sculpt, paint or engineering, that is the only thing that may push me to either give up or sell my old figures. Unless the old ones are very good, when that happens I will just keep the old and buy the new ones. If the new line is just an upgrade of the same exact line I may get a bit pissed, like it happened with the Myth Cloth line from Bandai, specially because they didn't even announce the new line as a new line, they told us it was going to be a side line were they would only release the 6 Athena Exclamation characters but then went on to release every character yet again. Normally I'm glad when a company upgrades a line and re-releases the old characters with a better take and overall quality.
If more people had wives who shared their hobbies and interests, there'd be a lot happier collectors.
What's a dead line? What's a finished collection? What if you just like the lore and create your own repaint characters or now that you have them all they need a place to sit and make coffee and hangout so then on to diorama and play sets on so on and on and on
Great video as always, nice to get the grey matter working :)
For me personally I've never seen the hobby as having an endgame, a goal. I just get what I like when it comes out.
I do have collections of singular characters (Brawl, Blackout, Bonecrusher) and have a habit of anytime I get a Megatron I have to get the complementing Prime and vice versa if I get a Prime first.
I have brief moments where I think of ditching it all but that never lasts long and I'm back into enjoying it. We al have lists of characters we'd love to get made but I just take the news as it comes out, not judging my current collection by what could come out in future.
It's definitely a concern with Maketoys run of luck recently that we won't get the rest of the target masters Fingers crossed
I doubt we'll see the rest of the MT target masters, hell i'm in the fence as to whether they will get made at all by anyone if Mt's didn't sell. Which is a shame as the one they did make was stellar. I do wonder with space being what it is whether i shouldn't just call it quits and pare down, but I continually question what criteria I'd be happy with.
If chug ended today, I would be very satisfied with my collection.
Neca TF2 is interesting as I just got on the line and from who it looks, they most likely will not complete blu team (I'm only in on red team). This sucks also because early red figures like heavy, soilder, and demo man desperately need reissues.
If I were to give up on collecting and wanted to get rid of everything, I'd sell for whatever price I could get.
As for abandoning a line/company, I'm not sure about that. I buy what ever looks cool. That's how I got into the Unrustables and Master Made lines. I'm very disappointed that Mayhem Mechanics/MAAS are gone, but I'm not going sell my figs just because of that.
Masters of the universe classic is in the same boat. They released many figures but they could do more
So my collection is part impulse part fulfilling a childhood memory. I was poor growing up I didn’t have allot of the main line transformers. So my goal is to complete season one for both deceptions and autobots and I would be happy and quit upon completion. As far as the rest of my collection I collect what I like and that is almost all impulse. Almost anything dc falls in this category.
08:45 MMC maybe if they do the rest of the G1 cassettes and fembots. Their combiners are halfway MP, not pure G1 and kinda more pre-MP aesthetic in some ways and in size.
Chugsterpiece
great vid but is being a completionist and appreciating a collection mutually exclusive because this video makes it seem like they are
I don't agree with needing everything I think that's just to black and white and leads to you buying stuff that you didn't really want in the first place just 'because'. I've dropped a few lines already like MP Transformers by Takara, I didn't like the shift from the great detail, awesome paint app figures they had produced to the less detailed cartoon like figures that cost the same amount of $$. But even when I was into MP I wasn't buying everything, I got Wheeljack, Sideswipe, Bluestreak (diaclone) Magnus and Soundwave. I wasn't just going to pick up characters I had no attachment to simply because they where in the show and Takara had made them, and I'm not going to dump the figures because Takara shifted the MP line, because I still really like those figures and them not being a complete run doesn't devalue how nice they are.
I've had that issue with s.h. figuarts Naruto line. They just seemed to have dropped it to focus on dbz. I'm not parting with them but it does suck not to see other characters brought to life through their line.
Neurosis kills the fun of collecting.
I wouldn’t give a flip about Headmasters characters but for IDW comics.
I am both. Transformers I want all G1 and breast wars that were in the actual shows. When it comes to marvel legends and dc cause I have so many I am more selective.
I’d be happy with Kano, Sonya and Raiden in that order from Storm and that will do me for MK. Sorry Liu and Johnny.
Didn't MMC do IDW Whirl? Turben?
Biased reviews also contribute to stuff not being bought thats actually good for example xtb breakages you break it everyone thinks there gonna break it thats why people should collect what they love my mother in law collects pyrex appliances and dishes. To each there own
Didn't mmc reformatted create a idw Whirl?
I'm in for Transformers, no one yet as done everything and I don't believe anyone is gonna do everything so, completion is *SHRuGZ?* I just get the few I really want and then, if I like it I'll get it without expecting stuff. The graphic novels, comics, videos, collectable stuff etc are what I care about complering tbh. I can only see hasbro doing everything. Or, Fanstoys are gonna go beast and jost doooo it like Nike
I’m
Just collecting Takara/Tomy Masterpiece Transformers only... If they’re done, I’m done too.
So you let others tell you what youre gonna collect?
zilvertron you completely missed his point lol
@@edwinyi7064 no i didnt. The idea with 3rd party is that they give you an option, a way to get a good representation for the moment of a specific character, while TakaraTomy dont care what western part of fandom wants, they cater first and foremost to asia, and they release what they want, not neccesarely what you desire. Thats why i wrote why let somebody else decide what you collect.
@@zilvertron exactly why you missed his point. Sun rises and sets with Takara for him. So if they were to stop so will he. Doesn't matter that 3rd party companies are out there.
@@edwinyi7064 and then you missed my point again, i mean that his collection isnt built up by his own choises, but by somebody else that dont care if he buys or not. If you only follow 1 company that has main goal of profit will you ever have a complete collection that you can look at and be proud of when the company you collect suddenly decides whats been done in the past doesnt count aka MP01-Mp10.
I just buy what I want honestly. I just don't buy them when they get crazy expensive on the secondary. I lived without them and I can live without them. Just move on the the next thing.
I buy every g1 mech fans toys legends.
I love their designs and i LOVE the designs they knock off.
Interesting, I'm happy with my Transformers having all of season 1 and some of the Season 2 toys I had as a child. I'm a bit more worried about Hot Toys completing the Mandalorian line though, we're getting characters that had a minute and 15 seconds screen time well before half the main characters. I think it takes more time to do the face sculpts compared to helmets.. hoping they are all in on this series! Cuz if they aren't and they miss one of the main characters that's going to be a hard pill to swallow.
This is why I stopped collecting SHF Star Wars. The characters out just don't compare to the Black Series. I felt like it would be 30 years before SHF caught up. And investing in SHF kind of scares me when I think how they completely abandoned the D.C. Dark Knight series while Mafex carried it on. I'm curious about these 6 inch JOES coming out. Are they just going to release a couple waves or will they truly put the work in like they did with the 25th Anniversary
End of the day collect what you love and you won't be sorry
I only get the characters I like, then I’m done until a “better” one comes out. I don’t like *most* of the characters in many series.
Dude thats how I collect now. I bought a load of Black series characters that I don't even like to just have the corresponding number. I'm selling those now.
I keep thinking Jontron is in this podcast lol
Old Balls who is Jontron?
This is long maybe some run on ranting sorry took time to think things out and so much to try to ball in.
I was a completist and often jumped on a ton of various things till 2006 - 2007 I had to make a few choices and sold off everything I had minus a few CHUGs thou just Classics and Henkei back then. Later I tried to get back into MP line but stopped, my budget was around 2 grand a year and the lines were exceeding that rapidly. Now Hasbro has the budget around 3 to 4 grand per year with items shipping taxes and all that fun stuff on chugs alone, not counting the endless upgrades and gap fillers stuff that is exploding onto the market and stickers. That bumps the budget into an easy 4 to 6 grand per year. Yes you can say if you really want it you will find a way and being discouraged and leaving the hobby is a way.
Offical MP line is suffering, I see people posting their entire collections and buyers are hesitating abit in snatching them up even on good prices because they are also debating the same path. Right now i think people are holding out on the MP Trainbots and how they turn out but Hasbro is needing to make rapid changes and stay that course because fans are not going stay and this is not exclusive to one line. Prices are still super high event he current discount of MP hound is too high for a fragile toy, yes toy aka meant to be played with right now people are buying a statue they take a risk to make it look how they want. People are complaining about where to put Unicron and FT-40 there is going to be other equally as large figures expected as well to have a complete G1 representation.. we are talking a large room with display cases all over the place, that is another added cost and if you live in say NYC or Hong Kong, that is your entire living space like FT-40 will be the towel rack and toilet paper holder because you go nowhere else to stuff him.
Cyberverse line is making some slight improvements but when you compare the size and cost it's still a garbage chug, build a figure is a selling tactic to try and make a strong line sales so they can promote the line to retailers and have stock clear the shelves, you know what else works staging the wave properly with enough figures to balance the box, if needed recolor a figure look Redwing, won and done apply to other scales like legends.
Bot bots, I can see this replacing cyberverse as the younger age draw, has alot of potential and could explode like the 3rd party legends stuff.
Movie line studio series is kind of doing okay but i think after they complete the combiner sales will drop.
CHUG what a hype train that has become with the best line ever and more QC issues than ever, when i bought a classics and into titans return i was not returning figures, especially ones i bought at a store but POTP and siege ya about 1 in 5 to 6 i have had to return to parts being pined in wrong missing parts like the rear tires (yes plural). Toyhax stickers use to be a tiny sheets 10 to 30 stickers, right now it is almost cheaper for them to make us a new figure that is painted correctly... What really worries me is Earthrise cliffjumper as a deluxe when he is clearly a legends scale figure and is the legends line dead and gone for the most part.
As i see it Offical MP is all but ashes, cyberverse is not worth it, bot bots might catch on but then need more than just a few odd mini-figures, Movie lines is dwindling, oh look another movie prime or a new bee the joy he can stand next to the 50 other ones that look the same. Now ChUGs i see my collecting days are limited i do not plan to sell them for a while likely over my dead body be they are the cause or not is yet to be seen. I get making new figures but they were remaking the same figure over and over ignoring that the fans wanted new versions and then we get a reboot, yaaaaaa.... look another Optimus and another Optimus and another Optimus.... Do you think we might get another Optimus before 2020 is out????
I'm not done collecting I don't collect takara or Hasbro I get 3rd party and the 3rd party companies keep making new stuff so I keep collecting but I will stop eventually my fieanca doesn't like transformers much at all but she is happy that I enjoy them she is going with me to tf con in missasoga this year she is only going so that she can see what it's like transformers to me are more then just dust collecting things they help me out with my depression and anxiety and I enjoy buying them but also I am only aloud to get one a year wich is fine happy wife happy life but in this case her and I both win because she knows it's coming and I always go for the transformer that suits me she may be surprised to see how many people will be there this will be my 3rd year going and I plan on getting something big