Michael Saylor & David Marcus: The Future of The Lightning Network | Bitcoin for Corporations

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  • čas přidán 2. 06. 2024
  • Recorded May 1at MicroStrategy World: Bitcoin for Corporations 2024
    In this fireside chat, Michael Saylor, executive chairman and founder of MicroStrategy, and David Marcus, CEO and co-founder of Lightspark, discuss the Lightning Network and its potential to connect hundreds and thousands of companies.
    David Marcus shares his career experience in fintech and how it shaped his view of Bitcoin. They delve into the importance of Lightning as a layer two solution for fast and cheap Bitcoin transactions. They also discuss the challenges faced by companies in different regions and the role of compliance and currency conversions in the Lightning Network.
    The conversation explores the potential impact of Lightning Network on global payments and digital transactions. The conversation also touches on the future of digital transformation in payments and who will drive it, as well as the reliability and fault tolerance of Lightning Network.
    The conversation concludes with discussions on the role of payment gateways, the potential of Bitcoin as the native currency of AI, and the future of nation-state currencies in relation to Bitcoin.
    00:00 Introduction and Background
    02:18 David Marcus' Career Experience and Bitcoin
    06:56 The Role of Lightning in Scaling Bitcoin
    10:06 Lightspark's Services and Customers
    14:13 Challenges in Compliance and Currency Conversions
    21:57 The Future of Lightning and Corporate Adoption
    31:35 Revolutionizing Global Payments with Lightning Network
    33:57 The Future of Digital Transformation in Payments
    39:35 Integrating Lightning Network: A Competitive Edge
    45:21 The Changing Landscape of Payments: Paying Attention
    49:19 Regulators' Understanding of Bitcoin and its Neutrality
    52:15 Bitcoin as the Native Currency of AI
    55:24 The Role of Payment Gateways in the Lightning Network Era
    57:28 Nation-State Currencies and the Potential of Bitcoin
    59:26 Transparency and Compliance in International Transactions
    01:00:46 The Early Stages and Immense Potential of Lightning Network
    Learn more about Bitcoin for Corporations: www.microstrategy.com/world-2...
    #btc #bitcoin #bitcoinnews #markets #mstr #microstrategy #michaelsaylor #technews #technology #currency #investing #finance #financialnews #lightningnetwork #payments #artificialintelligence
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Komentáře • 103

  • @aussieman8738
    @aussieman8738 Před měsícem +64

    Forget reading comments. Too many scammers

  • @quantumhealing341
    @quantumhealing341 Před měsícem +17

    too many scammers in the comment section!

  • @BTC_Patriot
    @BTC_Patriot Před měsícem +7

    God bless Micky Saylor!

    • @BuyingDaDip209
      @BuyingDaDip209 Před 29 dny

      God bless Peter Chiff.. lmao... these dudes just pushing their own investments... You won't hear Ferrari tell customers to buy Corvette lol.... common sense stuff... what else is Saylor supposed to say? Lol

    • @BTC_Patriot
      @BTC_Patriot Před 29 dny

      Don’t hate, participate!

  • @jp34604
    @jp34604 Před 24 dny +4

    It was quite fascinating at 39 minutes in when Michael brought up the subject of security and his question was completely ignored and responded to with an answer that had nothing to do with the question and Michael just ignored the fact that his question was ignored.

  • @katrinkessler77
    @katrinkessler77 Před 28 dny +1

    Michael Saylor is REALLY inspiring!!
    And the business idea of David is great!! I hope it works for small companies as well

  • @grigorejomiru8820
    @grigorejomiru8820 Před 17 dny

    Very good view about Lighting Network and the created system by Marcus. Thanks a lot, many things already learned ❤️🙏

  • @jp34604
    @jp34604 Před 24 dny +5

    Lightning is not Bitcoin.
    Lightning does not have the security of Bitcoin.

  • @gloriamariadc7757
    @gloriamariadc7757 Před měsícem +5

    Super epic convo!!!

  • @Gold_Silver.
    @Gold_Silver. Před 19 dny

    #Gold & #Bitcoin to the 🌕 baby we all out. Saylor just has favorites.

  • @edwin.jansen
    @edwin.jansen Před měsícem

    Thank you for your sales pitch, David! 🙂 Luckily I am not one of your target audience. Although I would find it really nice if I could buy and transfer my Bitcoin at and from a CEX for much less and much faster than today. That would be helpful to make it easier and cheaper for me to move it as fast as possible into my self-custody wallet. So thank you for that!

  • @thecookiechannel7083
    @thecookiechannel7083 Před 20 dny

    This is cool but how will a bitcoin owner benefit from this???? Also if bitcoin went way down or way up in price would it affect how this product works??? I would love an answer. Thanks for any explanation offered.

  • @mattbradley1716
    @mattbradley1716 Před 29 dny +2

    Btc needs to not be taxable.

  • @barito7
    @barito7 Před 3 dny

    I don't see an extreme amount of friction when I think about other coins and tokens which could be used in conjunction with BTC for deep liquidity. If MSTR is to provide Defi it will need rails so understand why this is of interest but there are better technologies than Lightning that are in need of BTC's deep open liquidity.

  • @erickrediet
    @erickrediet Před 28 dny +1

    Are they talking about Strike ? 😄

  • @TeshTube
    @TeshTube Před 27 dny +1

    ♾/21M

  • @shawtyrelax
    @shawtyrelax Před 25 dny

    its magical bitcoin ❗️

  • @Huittaca
    @Huittaca Před měsícem

    This is how the new world order should look and feel like. Money secured for the people by the people.

  • @nesdi6653
    @nesdi6653 Před 25 dny

    my question is what's the catch with lightning network.

    • @jp34604
      @jp34604 Před 23 dny

      The catch is it's the lightning Network and it's not the Bitcoin Network it doesn't have the security of the Bitcoin Network it's completely centralized

    • @1245JL
      @1245JL Před 19 dny

      What do you mean

    • @rashadal-safar1931
      @rashadal-safar1931 Před 15 dny

      lightning network is not centralised. its a fast transaction network that doesn't have as high levels of security. think of it as like pooling a large number of bitcoin transactions but not on the bitcoin network. they can then be settled later so lowering the fees and increasing the speed. the catch is you don't have the same security but for small transactions, do you care?

  • @jp34604
    @jp34604 Před 24 dny +1

    Lightning transactions do not actually move Bitcoins on the Bitcoin blockchain these are the facts

  • @valiente4153
    @valiente4153 Před 25 dny +1

    "Who is sending a Fax" Answer: The Germans

  • @bass69player
    @bass69player Před měsícem

    Network fees have been crazy lately after the having.

  • @phongcp7900
    @phongcp7900 Před 29 dny

    sounds like Nuetron pay

  • @roughout
    @roughout Před 28 dny +1

    Making it easy to move money concerns me someone could easily move my money.

    • @VancouverCrypt0
      @VancouverCrypt0 Před 27 dny +2

      Looks like you need to educate yourself about self custodial cryptocurrency and wallet use.

    • @SquareRootOfMinus1
      @SquareRootOfMinus1 Před 24 dny

      @@VancouverCrypt0 Right.
      And then we can all agree that Lightspark is 3rd party custodial. Same as Cash App, or Strike, or Wallet of Satoshi.
      You literally give your keys to them. And hope they take care of your money for you.

  • @murilokano7568
    @murilokano7568 Před 27 dny +1

    Ask him if he knows the $KASPA technology?😅

    • @EricBoston1992
      @EricBoston1992 Před 19 dny +1

      Indeed, besides Bitcoin, Kaspa is the only other fair/pure fixed-supply crypto asset & Layer 1 Proof-of-Work with 100% fair launched & mined supply,
      The BlockDAG protocol is monumental innovation,
      The longer people take to realize that, the more I can own for myself, just wish I found it sooner than July ‘23, but from my understanding I’d say prices are still very advantageous within this cycle, let alone long-term.
      - I also think it’s likely some people are keeping quiet about Kaspa for now to keep it under wraps, which is fine by me 😎

  • @mdevvvo
    @mdevvvo Před 28 dny +1

    funny how 'be your own bank' maxi's are suddenly cool with btc banks when they learn the system doesnt scale

    • @stevemason3333
      @stevemason3333 Před 21 dnem

      DIY self custody lightning exists, what they are describing is a KYC/AML validated version of lightning. Also if you followed the bitcoin community you'd know that maxis never agree on anything, many are certainly not cool with this.

    • @rashadal-safar1931
      @rashadal-safar1931 Před 15 dny

      Well be your own vault is a better analogy and the more important one. I don't think people care about how their coffee purchase is handled. it's not that important

  • @Danny-levesque20022
    @Danny-levesque20022 Před 26 dny

    BIS bank of japan are almost all converting there banks to run on the xrp ledger !! Its a fact .. i mean come on BTC.... COME ON

    • @jp34604
      @jp34604 Před 23 dny

      @Danny
      Dude put down the Brad Cool-Aid, your 'arny' lost the war!

  • @Matt-ie3os
    @Matt-ie3os Před měsícem

    LN-LTC will have more self-sovereign Lightning Network users then LN-BTC.
    Most LN-BTC users will be using corporate controlled BTC.

    • @steff1238
      @steff1238 Před 22 dny

      You mean Lightning with Litecoin? Lnd will remove Litecoin support with version 0.18.0

    • @Matt-ie3os
      @Matt-ie3os Před 22 dny

      @@steff1238 It's open-sourced and someone can easily port it to Litecoin.

  • @michaelmccluskey1638
    @michaelmccluskey1638 Před 27 dny

    Have you heard about XRP.?. 10 Years ahead of you buddy.

    • @Ducotevision
      @Ducotevision Před 26 dny +1

      Oh yeah…. Let’s use a centralized company over a decentralized protocol….. makes complete sense or better yet why don’t we just use a centralized stable coin…

    • @rashadal-safar1931
      @rashadal-safar1931 Před 15 dny +1

      exactly! well said!​@@Ducotevision

  • @8stripes.
    @8stripes. Před 26 dny

    Lightning only scaling is for feds

  • @cloudiermonk
    @cloudiermonk Před měsícem

    It's sad usa can't use lightning

    • @SAL-fs1mr
      @SAL-fs1mr Před 28 dny

      I'm in USA I still use lightning pretty much everyday

  • @jeanperez9902
    @jeanperez9902 Před 27 dny

    Buy now, cry later

    • @rashadal-safar1931
      @rashadal-safar1931 Před 15 dny

      sure, if you care that much about a 5 dollar transaction. I won't be crying about it.

    • @jeanperez9902
      @jeanperez9902 Před 15 dny

      ⁠@@rashadal-safar1931 are you for real? Like even a cup of coffee is cheaper than a 5 dollar transaction lol “the future of finance”

  • @gaeldesmontagnesnoires1711
    @gaeldesmontagnesnoires1711 Před měsícem

    Nice Patek

  • @solideights
    @solideights Před dnem +1

    Like i’ve said this for years, Most of if not all current tokens, altcoins, stablecoins, defi’s, crypto exchanges are all shitcoins & trash. BITCOIN ONLY HODL!!! Thank me later!!!

  • @PvMLad
    @PvMLad Před 28 dny +2

    Let's be honest lightning is a joke, not even 5k BTC on it. Why even bother talking about it

    • @gainknowledgeandinsight
      @gainknowledgeandinsight Před 26 dny +1

      Let’s me understand this - listen to you or listen to Michael and David. Dude, you’re out to lunch.

    • @PvMLad
      @PvMLad Před 26 dny

      @@gainknowledgeandinsight take a look at the network stats yourself. Who exactly has adopted lightning in the last 6 years?

    • @SquareRootOfMinus1
      @SquareRootOfMinus1 Před 24 dny

      @@gainknowledgeandinsight Rather than listen to either party - could recommend just work it out by oneself.
      Lightspark is 3rd party custodial - same as Cash App, or Strike.
      You literally give your keys to them. And trust them when they promise to look after your money for you.
      This is diametrically opposed to crypto, to LN, to Bitcoin.
      Indeed - have you ever had a Bitcoiner say : “ NYK - NYC “ ?
      This is the opposite.
      Polar opposite. You give your keys away to these 3rd parties.

    • @SquareRootOfMinus1
      @SquareRootOfMinus1 Před 24 dny

      @@gainknowledgeandinsight. This is 3rd party custodial.
      You literally give your keys to Lightspark.
      Same as Cash App, or Strike.
      It’s the polar opposite of Bitcoin, crypto, & self-sovereignty.

    • @rashadal-safar1931
      @rashadal-safar1931 Před 15 dny

      if it works, isn't that the point? everything is low volume at the start right?

  • @dcnchrislincoln-ur7iu
    @dcnchrislincoln-ur7iu Před 28 dny +1

    The weeds need to be allowed to grow with the wheat😮

  • @justamanfromutah
    @justamanfromutah Před 27 dny

    Get a D’CENT Cold Storage Biometric Wallet! SeedPhrase protected as well as Biometric finger print. 👍

    • @ericmorrison8772
      @ericmorrison8772 Před 27 dny

      why?... not giving up biometric data!!

    • @justamanfromutah
      @justamanfromutah Před 27 dny

      @@ericmorrison8772 extra layer of protection that is stored on the device. Can’t send crypto out of the wallet without it.

  • @murilokano7568
    @murilokano7568 Před 27 dny

    Dyor $KAS 🎯 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @edwin.jansen
    @edwin.jansen Před měsícem

    Isn't what David is doing exactly the same thing as companies like Wise and Revolut are already doing?

    • @SAL-fs1mr
      @SAL-fs1mr Před 28 dny +1

      Not really because wise and revolut can't interface with each other, and it takes a lot of effort for them to work with others. David's company automatically works with all current and future lightning wallets and companies.

    • @edwin.jansen
      @edwin.jansen Před 27 dny

      @@SAL-fs1mr Ooh if Wise and Revolut do not use a block chain than that is by definition true. Trust me I know, I created interfaces in IT for more than 15 years in the past. So I assumed Wise and Revolut use a block chain.

    • @stevemason3333
      @stevemason3333 Před 21 dnem

      The difference is its a more open platform, you and the person you are sending to don't need to be using the same company, just one that is UMA compliant.

  • @Earej
    @Earej Před 11 dny

    This is so cypherpunk... NOT!
    Saylor is a simp for KYC, AML, corporations and government.
    Lightning for businesses is boring and pointless. Sending fiat currency around is boring.
    We need fungibility, privacy and we need it for the little guy.

  • @user-xo8pi2wx4n
    @user-xo8pi2wx4n Před měsícem

    Forget Shiba and Dogecoin. The next Bull runner gonna be AMS59K

  • @user-qy8vx9dz4t
    @user-qy8vx9dz4t Před 27 dny

    Does lightning work with swift and visa and Mastercard and many other financial institutions around the world? Ripple does that already..hard to listen to these clowns

  • @jp34604
    @jp34604 Před 24 dny +1

    This is actually rather disgusting how misleading this is.
    These transactions are not recorded on the Bitcoin base layer
    The value of the exchange does not exist on the Bitcoin base layer.
    The lightning network does not have the security of the Bitcoin Base layer.
    Lightning nodes are drastically less secure than Bitcoin nodes.
    These are the facts.
    Basically all layer two Solutions suck as they all suffer from these drawbacks.
    The best solution is to allow more transactions in a single block.
    This is the reality which is being hidden from us all.

    • @SquareRootOfMinus1
      @SquareRootOfMinus1 Před 24 dny

      So true.
      “Tx not recorded”.
      In fact they’re not even recorded on Lightning.
      There’s no such thing. These are just IOU’s floating around on some company’s Excel spreadsheet. The user gives their keys to Lightspark, or Cash App, or Strike - then cross your fingers and hope that they give it back to you someday.
      “LN does not have the security”.
      In fact, there is no security at all.
      There is no blockchain, no Dag, nothing. You hope & pray that :
      1. They entered your trade in their spreadsheet, &
      2. They are in the mood to give your money back someday.

    • @stevemason3333
      @stevemason3333 Před 21 dnem

      "These transactions are not recorded on the Bitcoin base layer", who cares? how would that every scale to 8 billion people? Why would you want to archive forever a transaction of someone buying a pack of gum. If you don't like it don't use it enjoy your big block solution that will go nowhere and never be actually used.

    • @SquareRootOfMinus1
      @SquareRootOfMinus1 Před 20 dny

      @@stevemason3333 “Who cares ?”
      ‘Ok, so that’s it then. Experiment is over. It failed. We all throw in the towel. We can’t have decentralized money.’
      So if you are happy to use a completely centralized 3rd party custodian for your money -
      Then why would anyone use Lightspark? Why not just stay with your bank ?
      Say you need to input EUR, and deliver USD to someone, why not just use a Fintech - Revolut, or ETransfer, N26, etc. ?
      What’s the difference?

    • @slushthevillian6341
      @slushthevillian6341 Před 20 dny

      @@stevemason3333 I care. I care a lot about it being decentralized and permission less. The moment you sign up for 3rd party custodial, KYC you lose your permissionless.
      That is the very core of Bitcoin. It saddens me that lightning is treated so seriously.

  • @MRNC
    @MRNC Před měsícem +1

    Sounds like the same thing XRP is going.

    • @mchappster3790
      @mchappster3790 Před 28 dny +3

      XRP is not decentralised

    • @SAL-fs1mr
      @SAL-fs1mr Před 28 dny +1

      Except no one really wants to hold XRP. People and corporations want to hold Bitcoin.

  • @Leeds1919LUFC
    @Leeds1919LUFC Před měsícem +1

    The AMU naming convention seems a good idea until you pick a name and you’ve got a crappy company on the end of it. Why can’t we just have NAME.btc or NAME.bitcoin like ENS names with NAME.eth