Seems like the old videos of 30hz vs 60hz vs 144hz they just replaced 30hz with 144hz, 60hz with 240hz and 144hz with 500hz. This is now a gimmick imo.
IMO anything above 120Hz is a gimmick. Maybe 144Hz feel better but that it. That's the boundary we can perceive and mid and lower GPU can hardly reach 144Hz. So, 500Hz is ... !!
Imagine you having all that fancy stuff like 500hz monitor, 3090Ti you have the highest performance possible but you got absolutely demolished by the guy who has 60hz monitor and old laptop
@thawne7993 im looking for a job i know stuff about computers like installing windows, drivers swamping parts like gpu cpu cooler ram hdd ssd and some basic diagnostics to fix computers
I was like you; ignorant of the truth, blind to the buttery smoothness of 144hz. Ever since the day I got a 144hz monitor, I notice the choppiness of my 60hz. I would save some money and get a cheapo 144hz tn panel if you have to. Just make sure to set the refresh rate to 144hz
@@brianlam5847 Ignorant to the truth? I have 75Hz monitor. They told me 75(it was that or 60) feels better than 30. Never again shall I listen to the advices of others when it comes to that and multiple other PC related things. Never I see no difference. These slow mo animations are useless to me. They are cool , but useless. In full motion 30 looks natural to me.
@@GameslordXY I would suggest that you get your eyes checked because lacking the ability to tell the difference between 30Hz and 60Hz is not normal. Also higher refresh rates not only look smoother, they feel much smoother, and respond to your inputs faster.
i'm guessing a 1000hz monitor in the future can make enemies visible before they even appear like seing the future before it happens, i definitely would buy that
And that is where the 4090 and I9-13900k combo comes in. Yes a 4090 will surely be cpu bottlenecked at 1080p, but you can still get 500 fps at medium or even low settings.
@@luukherfst1209 Here on Brazil these components are out of our reality. :( We need to work hard during months just to but a GTX 1050ti. To get a 4090, we'll need to work during years y'know, that's sad bro
@@jaderoliveira1870 Depende muito das decisões que uma pessoa toma na vida. Boa parte dos meus amigos viveram uma vida inteira de festas, baladas, churrasquinho e sexo promíscuo e agora estão todos pagando pensão e cheios de problemas nas costas. Uma pessoa jamais deveria se contentar em receber um salário mínimo, devemos sempre ter ambição e desejar melhorar nossa qualidade de vida. Pensamento de abundância e não de escassez, aprender sobre como administrar melhor nosso dinheiro, fazer investimentos, quantos brasileiros leem livros? Ou sequer se importam em ler e aprender? Pois o mesmo vale para a galera lá de fora, eles também tem que trabalhar duro para comprar as coisas que eles desejam, larga mão desse pensamento de vitima.
240Hz RTX 4090 player, with a 3:62 K/D: _"I see the enemies early on. Blessed with low latency. I am speed."_ That dude with an Intel HD iGPU on 60Hz, who carries the entire team with a 42:5 K/D: _"I hope I'm not a burden for my team."_
Because someone with better biological hardware will win. If you took two players with the same skill, then the computer hardware would matter more, IMO. The one carrying on 60hz probably has great tracking, switching, and flicking aim. This video shows advantages at like, what, 20ms? That isn't going to help someone play against someone who can accurately flick you at 250ms if it takes you 600ms. Having a monitor that improves your gameplay by even 100ms isn't going to help.
Aaaaah noo!!! 144hz is still very good. You really don’t need anything better than 144hz, endless your an elite esports player. Going from 144hz to 240hz is noticeable, but not noticeable enough to pay the extra in my opinion.
Well arma 3 at 4k i was getting 63fps (1070 blew chunks has to deal with a 1030 for ages now im on a 3090) So in some games it most certainly would be able to However its not a CRT so it will look awful if you go much below 960x540
@@ThisIsExile91 That doesn't really sound like common sense to me... They should have used the previous flagship (360hz or 390hz) to compare rather than 240hz, which has already been around for some time... I think 240hz is a good representation, but the fact that they didn't even give us a glimpse of 360hz vs 500hz is kind of a red flag
@@howled0 How the fuck is it a red flag they don’t even sell monitors. They’re just showing off the software/drivers they developed to even make it possible lmfao
The leap from 144fps to 240fps wasn't as massive as the leap from 30fps to 60fps or 60fps to 144fps. I dont think 500hz is necessary, but I like the option.
when you're playing fast paced fps games... it is absolutely noticeable. you can even notice the refresh rate when you move your mouse cursor too fast in windows... the choppier / disjointed the mouse looks during fast motion the less fps you have.
I like that they are literally using a *slow motion camera* at *1000 FPS* in order to capture how "choppy" it is at 144hz. As someone else said, the benefits are exponentially smaller the higher up you go, and will only truly matter for a select few people. 144Hz is plenty for 95% of people, and driving that at 1440p is difficult enough.
They could just use footage and calculate then apply the difference in FPS. The original footage might just be 60 fps slowed down accordingly to look like 60/144/240?
It's ok having no clue on what DLSS is, or the statements by Nvidia about the next generation. Considering that 240hz is even 300hz+ is achievable, a 100% performance gain would make 500hz viable. There are at least 3 viable resolutions, it makes sense that multiple cards can max a 500hz monitor.
Soon, the 1000hz mouse/keyboard/monitor trinity will set a new standard. P.S: to all 8khz mice mentioners - chill, we know there is one. I have one myself.
@@laos85 this idea of "the human brain can only see [amount] fps" still exsits? We don't see in fps, we see in a constant flow As long as there is visible light going into our eyes, we see it
well these 500hz monitor are made for those pros/youtuber/streamers who are earning a living through gaming and can afford them to gain an edge towards their opponents. So every millisecond matters.
guys im from 2030, we have "500 hz vs 900 hz vs 1500 hz" videos. i must say 500 hz looks choppy as heck (brave of me to say that watching it on my 5$ second hand 390 Hz 4K monitor with only an rtx 5060... my hardware is so outdated fr)
I was like you; ignorant of the truth, blind to the buttery smoothness of 1500hz. Ever since the day I got a 1500hz monitor, I notice the choppiness of my 390hz. I would save some money and get a cheapo 1500hz tn panel if you have to. Just make sure to set the refresh rate to 1500hz
Happy to finally setup my 144Hz monitor yesterday. Gets up today, sees NVIDIA doing this... smh, it will never end. Honestly, it's so good compared to 60hz that when we can push 500fps regularly on games it will be a while before that's common.
@@Krcun774 lol yeah it's kinda crazy as 4k 120hz is still considered premium tech especially OLEDs but people just want more. Little do they know a 4k 240hz OLED would not be reasonably priced.
@@malazan6004 I have a 4K 120Hz OLED tv and a 4K 144Hz IPS monitor. I don't plan on upgrading to a 4K 240H monitor until GPUs are powerful enough to handle games at that quality without having to tank all the settings to low
Almost have that CRT clarity. God I cannot believe that these monitors are just now catching up to CRT motion. Time to finally unleash the beast. I've always told my friends that it almost feels like 240 and even 360hz still can't keep up with my movements, but once we get to the 740hz - 1000hz It'll be perfect.
@@pepega3211 Maybe not broke kids like yourself.. i'm getting 700fps on avaerage in cs. By the time those 700-1000hz monitors are out, cpu,s/gpus will easily be able to run it. These companies work hand in hand together.
@Pepega lol the real question is why the fuck are you playing that terrible game 😂 but yeah no one is gonna be able to get 500+fps in cod. Maybe cs and Valorant..etc
@@bmlaforge so you wanna say you gonna buy a monitor for 2 specific games 1 is a shit game and one is a good one yeaaahhh no if you going for Pro League go ahead but i buiild my pc to play different games and a 165 hz monitor is perfect for that
me with a 60hz 42inch TV 1080p but DSR'ed to 4k .... with DLSS on quality on an 3090 RTX and 5950x ryzen ... must say thank you NVidia, I can still play 4K gaming (to some extent), great engineering.
Funny thing is that this uses TN panels which is the oldest LCD technology. What you're observing is pretty much just engineers overclocking panels as far as they can go while figuring out how to get rid of side-effects.
Jokes aside, top-tier LCDs and OLEDs are actually far better than the best CRTs in terms of both smoothness and refresh rate (resolution and scaling have been solved long ago as well-take any modern smartphone and try to compare the smallest font size that remains legible on it with one rendered on a CRT). There's an oft-overlooked fact that CRTs as a technology is fundamentally susceptible to ghosting because that's one of its core principles. It's easy to demonstrate with a simple experiment: turn the lights off, put on a black background and move a white square over it. Enjoy your ugly long-ass trails! The reason why you even see the picture on CRTs as a picture rather than an invisible burst of energy every time the electron beam crosses over your pupil is that phosphors illuminated by the beam glow for a little bit before they fade back to black. There is a physical limit to this phenomenon since they need a certain amount of time to "cool down", this process can't be accelerated and hence can't be solved with higher refresh rates, but the length of the trail is proportional to the contrast between the two objects, so it's not always noticeable. Technologies like OLED can potentially eradicate the issue completely since every pixel is illuminated individually so there's very nearly no "crosstalk" between then, but they're still too expensive to compete with LCD. Not to mention any high-end LCD panel is expensive itself.
Until 240hz OLED Gaming monitors are common thing, I won't even think of getting a new screen. I'll stick with my 1440p 165hz while waiting. LED technology can suck my ass.
Is Nvidia misrepresenting how refresh rate works during the last sequence? The player on the 144hz monitor progressively falls further back. Yes he is updating at slower intervals, but should catch all the way back up the instant he does update...... And then fall back behind while he's waiting to update, and then catch all the way back up. again.
@XDScythe No. 60 fps is perfectly functional, but high refresh rate monitors are healthier for your eyes and more pleasant to use since you make less effort on simulating movement when there are more images being shown, which makes these monitors useful for people who spend a lot of time looking at screens
I know all the comments are trashing them but this is true, it makes such a diffrence in fps games, maybe its a bit exaggerated but still, higher refresh rate + fps = better gameplay.
Před rokem+1
Interesting that the thumbnail shows a comparison between 144hz and 500hz refresh rate, as if fps difference could be observed in a still image...
So whats the matter with the HDR anyways? I got 1400nits capable screen, and either I am setting it incorrectly, or the HDR just does not make it look all that much better than my standard IPS panel. Am I alone in this one?
@@aminyapussi4740 most of the pros dont get a 500 fps consistent but thats not thing like idk if they would switch in the first place because they still preferred 240 hz to 360 hz even though it existed i dont exactly know the reason to that tho dont ask
Well theoretically for any semi-realistic game to do 500fps you would need a beefy CPU over GPU. Even an overclocked i9 I would doubt could get 500fps in anything aside from csgo and maybe Valorant, and obviously you would need a 3080 at the least .
Yep monitor technology is always ahead of what most computers can provide on game wide average. Hence the esports oriented marketing. It’s always been used to showcase the next big upgrade. Give it 5 years 1440p 240hz will be standard around US/EU. And most people will have RTX 20/30 series gpus lying around. The 1060 had been most popular since it’s release and still is, according to steam statistics.
I'd rather have the highest refresh that 1440p has to offer which I'm sure is a 240hz right? I'll never leave 4k 120hz but 1440p is significantly better on appealing to the eye on resolution over 1080p.
Sad to see everyone looking at this going 144hz is good enough. It is amazing to think back when the graphs were 30/60/100, now we are seeing 144/240/500. We are watching progress.
@@Navhkrin YUP, next-gen is for sure +%100 when you see a lot of the leaks and DUAL GPU cards. 4K 240Hz is pretty much very capable for triple a titles, not all but for sure couple will be.
@@laos85 That would've been a fair argument when Turing dropped in 2018. However, you simply look ignorant saying that after the massive performance improvements ampere made over Turing.
144 is the new 60. Do you guys remember when they tried to sell us 144 Hz monitors and the 60 Hz monitor was all blurry while the 144 was crystal clear? So, now 144 Hz is blurry all of a sudden.
after 90 fps, it's all eye candy, been playing with a rtx 3060 and a 165 hz ips 1ms display for at least a month now and after 90 fps you can hardly detect if u are getting 100 or 165 fps. (playing without any measure tool as afterburner)
@@ardasevmis7583 I'm not saying it is blurry, I'm saying they are trying to make look like it's blurry. Just as they did when they wanted us to go from 60 Hz monitors to 120 Hz.
At this point refresh rate isn't important. We would need to eliminate all delay from all other hardware in a computer. If you used a 144Hz screen where everything else is sub 0.1 response time (The entire computer has no delay) the 144Hz would show a better feel in motion than a 500Hz screen could ever give.
I don't think it's worth it over 240hz except for the very top in eSports gamers. The jump from 144hz to 240hz was already small to begin with. Plus we haven't talked about what it would take to drive anything at that high of a frame rate. If anyone wants to experience really good motion clarity than they can go for quality strobed displays and play at a locked 120fps or 144fps that would be much easier to sustain than 500fps.
yeah i still have a NEC FP2141, it will run at a high resolution up to 160hz, and it's like looking through a window. 500hz is absolutely not necessary. 240hz and ULMB/backlight strobing would be enough. human perception reaches a limit just under around 200hz too (this can be easily tested by flashing images for around 6-7ms, anything lower and you can't see the image), so going from 240 to 500hz+ will not give you any advantage during any games.
Hopefully you realized that the reason that top earnings PRO players are still going for the 240Hz BenQ XL2546k instead of your 360Hz monitors is because of the image clarity with barely (Ghosting/Overshooting) also without sacrificing too much brightness #DyAc, so if you want that TOP earnings PRO players actually move from the Benq XL2546k to your Nvidia monitors, please make sure that this time they support ULMB all the way to the monitors max refresh rate (@500Hz) without sacrificing too much brightness, not like the 360Hz monitors only supporting ULMB @240Hz by cutting brightness in half, not even mentioning all the Ghosting and Overshooting they have compared to the BenQ XL2546k.
U know this is the same 240 TN pannel but upgraded by 60% in pixel response. They arent ips monitors they are like the zowie and every single player at pinnacle csgo event uses the 500hz rn. 100% of all players in the tournament
You can't trust what the "PRO's" use. They use shitty Razer,Hyper X,Logitech,Steel Series etc headsets but they run IEM's under them for actual communication and sound and the headsets are just there for blocking outside noise and filling those sponserships. They probably don't care about what contractor gives them what monitor as long as they don't change it often.
I loved Nvidia ever since i was a kid. my first Nvida graphics card was put in my computer by my dad so i can play Command & Conquer Series games but was mainly for Renegade
ok i get it, it only works on games like Valorant and CS:GO, but what GPU and CPU should i have to get this performance? because you didn't include PC specs you have used in description nor in video
Let's Get to 1000Hz (or 2000Hz TOPS) then stay there, at that point it will essentially be FULL Speed of life, ZERO perceptible latency, BUTTER smoothness and GOD TIER precision with zero ghosting. A 27" 16:9 QD OLED Monitor like this at 1440p (or 4K not that I care AS much) would be GOD TIER!
10 years from now should be quite amazing. 1000hz @ 8k should radically change how we play games. assuming Nvidia makes a midrange GPU capable of doing this.
This depends on how much you slow it down. Ofc 500hz will be way better than 240hz or 144hz, but you can't tell the difference at normal speed. 20 years from now it will like 5000hz and it still wont make a difference.
This difference isn't noticeable when you're playing in real time, first of all the panel matters more than the refresh, and second of all, it's really hard to distinguish past 200hz, even professional gamers usually can't tell the difference between 240 and 360, so 500 is really going to be nothing
You can definitely tell the difference, it's just that 240 to 360 really wast big enough of a jump. 500 on the other hand… That being said, you are right, it depends on the panel being used.
Seems like the old videos of 30hz vs 60hz vs 144hz they just replaced 30hz with 144hz, 60hz with 240hz and 144hz with 500hz. This is now a gimmick imo.
lol i was thinking the same thing
IMO anything above 120Hz is a gimmick. Maybe 144Hz feel better but that it. That's the boundary we can perceive and mid and lower GPU can hardly reach 144Hz. So, 500Hz is ... !!
Exactly the same thing. I was thinking. Marketing bastards. Ain't none got the horse power (GPU) to run at 500hz with good detail at 1080p
Thought this from the thumbnail 🥲
Exactly my thoughts
Imagine you having all that fancy stuff like 500hz monitor, 3090Ti you have the highest performance possible but you got absolutely demolished by the guy who has 60hz monitor and old laptop
and 700ping...
Devices can increase skill but multiplying by zero results zero
Fax
@@JavaJumper And Multiplying by 1 then Zero and to the power of 15 - 1 +1 then multiplied by 0 and multiplied by 1 results...zero
Kazah power and ping crimson
I finally bought myself a 144Hz monitor and this videos pops up.
same. but let's be honest it's not like we're gonna be albe to afford one
Me : cries in 60 hz 1080p monitor
@thawne7993 sadly i dont have job but considering my gpu is gtx 1060 6gb how rich do you think i am
@thawne7993 im looking for a job i know stuff about computers like installing windows, drivers swamping parts like gpu cpu cooler ram hdd ssd and some basic diagnostics to fix computers
@thawne7993 i repair my computers at home i nearly always manage to fix ptoblems
Never underestimated 60Hz user.
I was like you; ignorant of the truth, blind to the buttery smoothness of 144hz. Ever since the day I got a 144hz monitor, I notice the choppiness of my 60hz. I would save some money and get a cheapo 144hz tn panel if you have to. Just make sure to set the refresh rate to 144hz
you dont need the best of the best but u should invest in getting 144hz monitor. acc worth
Or 30
@@brianlam5847
Ignorant to the truth?
I have 75Hz monitor.
They told me 75(it was that or 60) feels better than 30.
Never again shall I listen to the advices of others when it comes to that and multiple other PC related things.
Never
I see no difference.
These slow mo animations are useless to me.
They are cool , but useless.
In full motion 30 looks natural to me.
@@GameslordXY I would suggest that you get your eyes checked because lacking the ability to tell the difference between 30Hz and 60Hz is not normal. Also higher refresh rates not only look smoother, they feel much smoother, and respond to your inputs faster.
I feel like this exact footage was used to showcase 30 vs 60 vs 144 lol
Edit: ah other people noticed too lol
You're right. I remember this when they first introduced the 144hz.
Yeap, we ain't stupid. It's easily recognizable. 144 seems good enough, no need to overkill in everything
Yeah, I'm fairly sure I saw videos showing 60Hz is choppy and 144Hz being completely smooth. Now they are trying to tell me even 240Hz is choppy?
they just changed the Hz
Not really, this must be 2 to 5 times slower than those showcases
i'm guessing a 1000hz monitor in the future can make enemies visible before they even appear like seing the future before it happens, i definitely would buy that
😂😂😂
😂
Future monitors: 480fps 720fps 1080fps 2160fps
Ya, and it‘ll also give you a -10000 Ping
🤣🤣
With 500hz you can actually see things that not even happened yet. Its real time traveling.
as they happen, not displaying what just happened & having to adapt to it too late when 2 rounds always left their weapon
Me who’s just kicking ass on my 60hz laptop screen. 💪
i have 59 hz 💀
@@Whiteebearrr 45
@@N4zunA. bro uses a 1985 TV
@@Ali_Al-Nasir actually 1700 😎
@@N4zunA. *DAMN* your rocking the _WinchesterElectronic_
Can't wait to watch future demos of this on my 60hz monitor
10 years later 500hz will become new 60hz.
And, I made the 10th like. Facts 😆
I Made the 60th like 😆
True
and id still be broke to even buy a 144 hz one
and the 4090 would become the new GTX cards or the worst RTX cards
Now we just need a GPU that's capable to give us all this fps :,)
need a pair of eyes aswell
And that is where the 4090 and I9-13900k combo comes in. Yes a 4090 will surely be cpu bottlenecked at 1080p, but you can still get 500 fps at medium or even low settings.
@@luukherfst1209 Here on Brazil these components are out of our reality. :(
We need to work hard during months just to but a GTX 1050ti. To get a 4090, we'll need to work during years y'know, that's sad bro
@@jaderoliveira1870 Depende muito das decisões que uma pessoa toma na vida. Boa parte dos meus amigos viveram uma vida inteira de festas, baladas, churrasquinho e sexo promíscuo e agora estão todos pagando pensão e cheios de problemas nas costas. Uma pessoa jamais deveria se contentar em receber um salário mínimo, devemos sempre ter ambição e desejar melhorar nossa qualidade de vida.
Pensamento de abundância e não de escassez, aprender sobre como administrar melhor nosso dinheiro, fazer investimentos, quantos brasileiros leem livros? Ou sequer se importam em ler e aprender? Pois o mesmo vale para a galera lá de fora, eles também tem que trabalhar duro para comprar as coisas que eles desejam, larga mão desse pensamento de vitima.
@@kthxpls A maioria dos brasileiros querem tudo facil, mal sabem eles que você tem que lutar para conquistar.
240Hz RTX 4090 player, with a 3:62 K/D: _"I see the enemies early on. Blessed with low latency. I am speed."_
That dude with an Intel HD iGPU on 60Hz, who carries the entire team with a 42:5 K/D: _"I hope I'm not a burden for my team."_
Lmao facts
Because someone with better biological hardware will win. If you took two players with the same skill, then the computer hardware would matter more, IMO. The one carrying on 60hz probably has great tracking, switching, and flicking aim. This video shows advantages at like, what, 20ms? That isn't going to help someone play against someone who can accurately flick you at 250ms if it takes you 600ms. Having a monitor that improves your gameplay by even 100ms isn't going to help.
500hz is cool but they are acting like 144hz is garbage now lol
Aaaaah noo!!! 144hz is still very good. You really don’t need anything better than 144hz, endless your an elite esports player. Going from 144hz to 240hz is noticeable, but not noticeable enough to pay the extra in my opinion.
@@bretttanton328 ur cute
@@beary3067 no he's just being smart
I still have 60 hz monitor
@@theoutherplanes7928 i meant HES cute, in general.
The fact that 500hz monitors are even a thing is pretty cool but definitely more interested in the upcoming 1440 300/360hz displays.
I'm more interested in the upcoming 4k 240hz displays!
Ya that's the one I'm waiting for too
all need is a cpu and gpu to make it worth it
beyond 150hz your wasting your money esp if your over 25...
@@SouthpawPablo Braindead comment
1:00 So at 10000 hz we will see the future?
Na you would just see really close to reality
Imagine you have 500hz monitor, 2 RTX4090 and i9-13900 CPU, all the highest specs possible, then your ping is 120
if you have that kind of setup your house will literally get on fire
"is not the plane, is the pilot"
@@ZeroChoices not with my liquid nitrogen cooler
@@prophet6722 Nitrogen won't unmelt power cables
@@anonymousx6651Bruh...why would I use LN2 after it melts? Of course I'll use it before that, duh
My gt 1030 can surely handle this in 240p gaming.
I know it's a joke, but iirc a 1030 runs Fortnite at 72p lowest settings hardly above 200FPS lmao
Well arma 3 at 4k i was getting 63fps (1070 blew chunks has to deal with a 1030 for ages now im on a 3090)
So in some games it most certainly would be able to
However its not a CRT so it will look awful if you go much below 960x540
@@DelaryHap 72p lmao u can literally count the squares on the screen
@@martinivanov1319 Yep! It's really worth a look, that's the future of gaming
GT 1030 is so old and also entry level GPU.
i like how they didn't show 360hz since its such a miniscule difference
IKR
Or maybe just because 500hz is almost a even double of 240 to make it simple? Ever considered using some common sense before?
@@ThisIsExile91 That doesn't really sound like common sense to me...
They should have used the previous flagship (360hz or 390hz) to compare rather than 240hz, which has already been around for some time... I think 240hz is a good representation, but the fact that they didn't even give us a glimpse of 360hz vs 500hz is kind of a red flag
bruh fr
@@howled0 How the fuck is it a red flag they don’t even sell monitors. They’re just showing off the software/drivers they developed to even make it possible lmfao
how far this tech got wow, i recall those days when we saw 144hz it was a breakthrough
I still remember when they used to say you couldnt tell the diff between 60hz and 85hz hahaha
On some point they said even for movies in cinema it is no difference if the movie runs in more then 24fps because the eyes can't see it faster^^
The leap from 144fps to 240fps wasn't as massive as the leap from 30fps to 60fps or 60fps to 144fps. I dont think 500hz is necessary, but I like the option.
Probably for competitive players on tournaments
I can hear r/pcmasterrace screaming from here
Law of diminishing return
brain left the chat. nvidia is just too strong
when you're playing fast paced fps games... it is absolutely noticeable. you can even notice the refresh rate when you move your mouse cursor too fast in windows... the choppier / disjointed the mouse looks during fast motion the less fps you have.
I like that they are literally using a *slow motion camera* at *1000 FPS* in order to capture how "choppy" it is at 144hz. As someone else said, the benefits are exponentially smaller the higher up you go, and will only truly matter for a select few people. 144Hz is plenty for 95% of people, and driving that at 1440p is difficult enough.
On 99% of the games I play, don't notice fluidity improvement above 90fps with165Hz G-sync. But it is great that technology is improving!
This. Nvidia circlejerks about something so useless it's ridiculous
You know you fucked up when even the brony is speaking facts
@@Xperto_ Hahahahahahahaha
Creating better technology that is more responsive, minimizing perceived blur is always better. I don't get the negative reaction.
Me watching this in a 60hz monitor: Yes Yes very good
me with the 60hz broken mouse and keyboard and the kitchen chair demolishing these guys
wait a minute isn't this the same comparison between 60/144/240
They could just use footage and calculate then apply the difference in FPS. The original footage might just be 60 fps slowed down accordingly to look like 60/144/240?
@@ags911 you can't slow down 60fps and have it look smooth
It's the same comparison. They are scamming
I’m more impressed if a PC can even get a minimum 500FPS consistently. Good luck also doing it at those higher graphics settings.
Well. There is always classic Doom and Quake. They run at least 1000 frames.
Nvidia 40xx will be released soon xD
It's ok having no clue on what DLSS is, or the statements by Nvidia about the next generation. Considering that 240hz is even 300hz+ is achievable, a 100% performance gain would make 500hz viable. There are at least 3 viable resolutions, it makes sense that multiple cards can max a 500hz monitor.
"and that is why we have bult 4090: for the discerning gamer who wants to play 1080p at maximum clarity"
This is clearly aimed at esports users. They even show Valorant in the video, which easily runs at 500fps even in a mid-range PC.
Amazing difference between 4, 8 and 16 fps.
It confirms i need 500 hz
oh boy cant wait to see this in 10-5 years when they market a new monitor and make 500 hz look like 144hz
Soon, the 1000hz mouse/keyboard/monitor trinity will set a new standard.
P.S: to all 8khz mice mentioners - chill, we know there is one. I have one myself.
Is like 1000x what human eyes can see. I don't even understand why we have 30hz monitor in the first place
@@laos85 What? the human eye doesn’t even see in hertz. Theoretically we could see an infinite number of frames.
As somebody who got 240hz screen just for bhop and felt a HUGE difference, I can't wait for 1000.
@@laos85 this idea of "the human brain can only see [amount] fps" still exsits?
We don't see in fps, we see in a constant flow
As long as there is visible light going into our eyes, we see it
@@laos85 What the fuck? You think humans see in 1fps?
Lol earlier when compared with 60hz these 144 looked buttery smooth but as soon as 500hz came they started flickering 🤣🤣😂
That's cuz it's slowed down more
@@johnmallqui4600 exactly
Man the 144 is getting older xd
@@johnmallqui4600 no they start flickering.
Yeah I agree I feel like that made the 144 and 240 look bad just to make the 500 look better
"All this can be yours for a fire hazard and a year's wage!"
Can't wait till you bring us a GPU that can deliver this magical 500fps that doesn't cost more than a family car!
well these 500hz monitor are made for those pros/youtuber/streamers who are earning a living through gaming and can afford them to gain an edge towards their opponents.
So every millisecond matters.
@@ChillieGaming Nooot really actually
@@E55666 if u can afford them
Go for it .
Btw 240hz are cheap nowadays as well.
@@ChillieGaming cheap?
guys im from 2030, we have "500 hz vs 900 hz vs 1500 hz" videos. i must say 500 hz looks choppy as heck (brave of me to say that watching it on my 5$ second hand 390 Hz 4K monitor with only an rtx 5060... my hardware is so outdated fr)
only a 5060 lmao brokie
the 6000 series was ass so your good with your 5060
I was like you; ignorant of the truth, blind to the buttery smoothness of 1500hz. Ever since the day I got a 1500hz monitor, I notice the choppiness of my 390hz. I would save some money and get a cheapo 1500hz tn panel if you have to. Just make sure to set the refresh rate to 1500hz
I came here to say the rtx 50 series is being released this year 2024
Wow a whole 500fps @ 1080p!
I can see the jaggies even faster now
lol
meanwhile AAA games with a 4090: Hey look! I can do 70fps!
This means the player doesn’t even move in my 30 fps setup😂
Happy to finally setup my 144Hz monitor yesterday. Gets up today, sees NVIDIA doing this... smh, it will never end. Honestly, it's so good compared to 60hz that when we can push 500fps regularly on games it will be a while before that's common.
You don’t really need a monitor above 144 hz 165 hz at most or 240hz if ur really competitive
People are asking for 240hz 4k screens when they can barely push 90fps let alone 60 in modern games.
@@malazan6004 People really be hungry for dem frames, huh, it's like a drug
@@Krcun774 lol yeah it's kinda crazy as 4k 120hz is still considered premium tech especially OLEDs but people just want more. Little do they know a 4k 240hz OLED would not be reasonably priced.
@@malazan6004 I have a 4K 120Hz OLED tv and a 4K 144Hz IPS monitor. I don't plan on upgrading to a 4K 240H monitor until GPUs are powerful enough to handle games at that quality without having to tank all the settings to low
Imagine typing "esports" and then displaying Valorant
Almost have that CRT clarity. God I cannot believe that these monitors are just now catching up to CRT motion. Time to finally unleash the beast. I've always told my friends that it almost feels like 240 and even 360hz still can't keep up with my movements, but once we get to the 740hz - 1000hz It'll be perfect.
The fuck you talkin about we aint reaching even those fps
@@pepega3211 Maybe not broke kids like yourself.. i'm getting 700fps on avaerage in cs. By the time those 700-1000hz monitors are out, cpu,s/gpus will easily be able to run it. These companies work hand in hand together.
@@bmlaforge stop acting like a npc mf calling someone poor why should i get a 1000 hz when i get in cod 170 fps
@Pepega lol the real question is why the fuck are you playing that terrible game 😂 but yeah no one is gonna be able to get 500+fps in cod. Maybe cs and Valorant..etc
@@bmlaforge so you wanna say you gonna buy a monitor for 2 specific games 1 is a shit game and one is a good one yeaaahhh no if you going for Pro League go ahead but i buiild my pc to play different games and a 165 hz monitor is perfect for that
Now we just need 500hz eyes
You can even make 500Hz stutter like the 144hz if you slow the footage down enough! It’s just mind tricks!
Me using a 60hz monitor
*Cries in the corner*
you not alone my friend lets hug
@@angaralhafz0675 🫂
60 hz brothers!!!
i play at 2k 60fps can't go back at 1080p whatever the cost in frames.
??????
me with a 60hz 42inch TV 1080p but DSR'ed to 4k .... with DLSS on quality on an 3090 RTX and 5950x ryzen ... must say thank you NVidia, I can still play 4K gaming (to some extent), great engineering.
My monitor 500hz my pc " i even cant keep up with 60 "
At this point the 'improvement' will probably just be something people that buy one imagine
It's amazing how far LCD technology has come, they are approaching CRT levels of motion smoothness and refresh rate.
*far
@@sopcannon thanks for the heads up on the typo
Funny thing is that this uses TN panels which is the oldest LCD technology. What you're observing is pretty much just engineers overclocking panels as far as they can go while figuring out how to get rid of side-effects.
well, when it comes to refresh rate, they have beaten any CRT, but motion smoothness, yeah, thats a whole diferent beast
Jokes aside, top-tier LCDs and OLEDs are actually far better than the best CRTs in terms of both smoothness and refresh rate (resolution and scaling have been solved long ago as well-take any modern smartphone and try to compare the smallest font size that remains legible on it with one rendered on a CRT). There's an oft-overlooked fact that CRTs as a technology is fundamentally susceptible to ghosting because that's one of its core principles. It's easy to demonstrate with a simple experiment: turn the lights off, put on a black background and move a white square over it. Enjoy your ugly long-ass trails! The reason why you even see the picture on CRTs as a picture rather than an invisible burst of energy every time the electron beam crosses over your pupil is that phosphors illuminated by the beam glow for a little bit before they fade back to black. There is a physical limit to this phenomenon since they need a certain amount of time to "cool down", this process can't be accelerated and hence can't be solved with higher refresh rates, but the length of the trail is proportional to the contrast between the two objects, so it's not always noticeable.
Technologies like OLED can potentially eradicate the issue completely since every pixel is illuminated individually so there's very nearly no "crosstalk" between then, but they're still too expensive to compete with LCD. Not to mention any high-end LCD panel is expensive itself.
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NVIDIA: see players earlier with 500hz!
rection time: im aboutta end this mans whole career
You all know you are watching this with the refresh rate your monitor has now.
Until 240hz OLED Gaming monitors are common thing, I won't even think of getting a new screen. I'll stick with my 1440p 165hz while waiting.
LED technology can suck my ass.
master race
Is Nvidia misrepresenting how refresh rate works during the last sequence? The player on the 144hz monitor progressively falls further back. Yes he is updating at slower intervals, but should catch all the way back up the instant he does update...... And then fall back behind while he's waiting to update, and then catch all the way back up. again.
It's a gimmick
@XDScythe trust me, you don't wanna do that
@XDScythe smooth screens are more pleasant to interact with
@XDScythe No. 60 fps is perfectly functional, but high refresh rate monitors are healthier for your eyes and more pleasant to use since you make less effort on simulating movement when there are more images being shown, which makes these monitors useful for people who spend a lot of time looking at screens
I know all the comments are trashing them but this is true, it makes such a diffrence in fps games, maybe its a bit exaggerated but still, higher refresh rate + fps = better gameplay.
Interesting that the thumbnail shows a comparison between 144hz and 500hz refresh rate, as if fps difference could be observed in a still image...
When you realise its not only the monitor you need
Human brain cannot see more than 2 16GB RAM modules at once
Most people won't ever have a GPU powerful enough to even get 240 fps, not to mention 500+ so its an interesting thing, but only for a few.
Only the 4090 with the best of the best cpu would pump out 500 fps and even then only in not that many games
Most of us not even getting 200 FPS in most games
I won't feel complete until I get a 1khz, HDR, Gsync, OLED, reflex monitor
Plus an rtx 9090
U forgot to mention Curved, 1000 nits, reflex analyzer, extra super ultrawide, 20k resolution, and new 24 million colors than the standard 16.4
So whats the matter with the HDR anyways? I got 1400nits capable screen, and either I am setting it incorrectly, or the HDR just does not make it look all that much better than my standard IPS panel. Am I alone in this one?
@@Lbebe nope
Its 10 billion colors
True 10 bits🤣
@@ZheikoNileth This might mean you will have to recalibrate your display and see your gpu vendor's hdr setting
as a 240hz user im happy with what i have. almost no one gets a consistent 500fps anyways
For real. If you got a 240hz monitor you wont need a upgrade for maaany years
@@Monsizr or ever unless you won't to change the monitor panel to QD OLED or mini LED
to be fair this is meant for games like valorant and CS where getting consistent 500 fps isn't hard.
@@aminyapussi4740 most of the pros dont get a 500 fps consistent but thats not thing like idk if they would switch in the first place because they still preferred 240 hz to 360 hz even though it existed i dont exactly know the reason to that tho dont ask
with valorant its not hard to maintain 500fps+
We came from 30 vs 60 vs 75 to 60 vs 90 vs 120 to 120 vs 144 vs 240 to 144 vs 240 vs 360. And now we are at 500. This is crazy !
god! i hate it when my enemies' player models lag at speeds that my naked eye cannot ever physically comprehend
I can't even see 500Hz
i can only see 240hz at the moment
@Muhammad Ehtasam we cant see pixels
I can only see 1fps
Imagine having a 85 inch 8K Resolution, 500Hz Refresh Rate, 0.05ms Response Time, IPS Panel TV/Monitor
OLED without burn in.
Oh so this is why it looks like I'm getting shot behind a wall
I think 1000hz in future will see the enemy behind the wall
In a few years we will have to use kHz as the standard unit, just like we switched from MB to GB when talking about memory.
lol
a few years?
Wish I had the GPU to do 500hz.
you mean fps, hz is dependent on the monitor
Well theoretically for any semi-realistic game to do 500fps you would need a beefy CPU over GPU. Even an overclocked i9 I would doubt could get 500fps in anything aside from csgo and maybe Valorant, and obviously you would need a 3080 at the least .
Yep monitor technology is always ahead of what most computers can provide on game wide average. Hence the esports oriented marketing. It’s always been used to showcase the next big upgrade. Give it 5 years 1440p 240hz will be standard around US/EU. And most people will have RTX 20/30 series gpus lying around. The 1060 had been most popular since it’s release and still is, according to steam statistics.
@@benjamin9120 I have a 3060 with a 5600 and I get 500fps easily in fortnite.
Recent gpus can do 500hz
Tho achieving 500fps in games is a different matter entirely
I was on 60 hz now im on 144 hz and the difference is kinda crazy!!
I just went from 165hz to 360hz for Siege AND I WILL NEVER EVER EVER EVER GO BACK
I'd rather have the highest refresh that 1440p has to offer which I'm sure is a 240hz right? I'll never leave 4k 120hz but 1440p is significantly better on appealing to the eye on resolution over 1080p.
now its 1440p 360hz
Sad to see everyone looking at this going 144hz is good enough. It is amazing to think back when the graphs were 30/60/100, now we are seeing 144/240/500. We are watching progress.
Ah progress. But you have to ask, is that progress truly necessary?
@@olsirmonkey it is, CRTs from the 1990s are faster than our monitors.
The year is 2032: Nvidia has just released the latest cybernetic eye upgrade so gamers can view 12000hz monitors
Funny thing, is: not so long ago, 60hz animation was the same as the actual 144hz. 144hz was just like 500hz today. Weird...
500hz and fps is gonna be nice in vr, but on monitors 144hz is enough for 99% of people
Yup. But gpu advancement is a joke. All I see is price increase not performance
@@laos85 Rofl what? Turing to Ampere was average around %60, next gen is rumored to be %100.
@@Navhkrin YUP, next-gen is for sure +%100 when you see a lot of the leaks and DUAL GPU cards.
4K 240Hz is pretty much very capable for triple a titles, not all but for sure couple will be.
@@laos85 That would've been a fair argument when Turing dropped in 2018. However, you simply look ignorant saying that after the massive performance improvements ampere made over Turing.
@@Navhkrin Yeah but people still have bills to pay. imo they should focus more on efficiency
144 is the new 60. Do you guys remember when they tried to sell us 144 Hz monitors and the 60 Hz monitor was all blurry while the 144 was crystal clear? So, now 144 Hz is blurry all of a sudden.
Bra!! 90% of gamers don’t need anything higher than 144hz. Consoles can only go up to 120hz, and that’s plenty for most.
after 90 fps, it's all eye candy, been playing with a rtx 3060 and a 165 hz ips 1ms display for at least a month now and after 90 fps you can hardly detect if u are getting 100 or 165 fps. (playing without any measure tool as afterburner)
144 hz is not blurry at all, your getting scammed by nvidia once again
@@ardasevmis7583 I'm not saying it is blurry, I'm saying they are trying to make look like it's blurry. Just as they did when they wanted us to go from 60 Hz monitors to 120 Hz.
To humans this difference is basically insignificant, we see at 30 fps anyways
I have an Alienware monitor 34 inch 165 hz so is that bad and you’re working with them?
I just wish we could have widespread new tech panels that don't have TN/VA/IPS shortcomings...
Oled? They are near perfect
Bring back CRT's!
@@dafarii nah i would take oled over any crt. Crts are outdated
@@csch92 I wouldn't call oled widespread among PC screens.
@@incomingz44 but they are getting closer to it more and more people are using oled also many youtubers
So 144hz is the new 60hz?
lol, just upgraded from 60 to 144
lol 144hz is just the best option imo
nah 120hz is
Should be because 60hz is already ancient that it should be illegal to sell one like Akaline batteries.
@@laos85 what about 4k? 144 hz is still very expensive at that resolution
In the moment the light reach your eyes and your eyes comunicate with your brain, the monitor is displaying the next 10 frame
Me watching on my potato 60hz monitor:
*Yes*
I think I'll stick with my 1440p 144Hz monitors... This is just ridiculous.
Same dude. Only “ELITE” Esports players should think about getting a 500hz panel lol.
Thanks for a 500hz monitor wich any game could never run at that refresh rate!
Valorant
Rainbow Six Siege
You're missing the point.
@@Desiderium lol
kid named eSport title
yes now try to tell the difference between 240 and 500 without slowing it down
At this point refresh rate isn't important. We would need to eliminate all delay from all other hardware in a computer. If you used a 144Hz screen where everything else is sub 0.1 response time (The entire computer has no delay) the 144Hz would show a better feel in motion than a 500Hz screen could ever give.
true, but visual clarity
I don't think it's worth it over 240hz except for the very top in eSports gamers. The jump from 144hz to 240hz was already small to begin with. Plus we haven't talked about what it would take to drive anything at that high of a frame rate. If anyone wants to experience really good motion clarity than they can go for quality strobed displays and play at a locked 120fps or 144fps that would be much easier to sustain than 500fps.
yeah i still have a NEC FP2141, it will run at a high resolution up to 160hz, and it's like looking through a window. 500hz is absolutely not necessary. 240hz and ULMB/backlight strobing would be enough. human perception reaches a limit just under around 200hz too (this can be easily tested by flashing images for around 6-7ms, anything lower and you can't see the image), so going from 240 to 500hz+ will not give you any advantage during any games.
Hopefully you realized that the reason that top earnings PRO players are still going for the 240Hz BenQ XL2546k instead of your 360Hz monitors is because of the image clarity with barely (Ghosting/Overshooting) also without sacrificing too much brightness #DyAc, so if you want that TOP earnings PRO players actually move from the Benq XL2546k to your Nvidia monitors, please make sure that this time they support ULMB all the way to the monitors max refresh rate (@500Hz) without sacrificing too much brightness, not like the 360Hz monitors only supporting ULMB @240Hz by cutting brightness in half, not even mentioning all the Ghosting and Overshooting they have compared to the BenQ XL2546k.
Maybe they got zowie contracts? Can’t trust anyone these days
U know this is the same 240 TN pannel but upgraded by 60% in pixel response. They arent ips monitors they are like the zowie and every single player at pinnacle csgo event uses the 500hz rn. 100% of all players in the tournament
But thats probably sponsored too maybe they have to use the 500 lol
You can't trust what the "PRO's" use.
They use shitty Razer,Hyper X,Logitech,Steel Series etc headsets but they run IEM's under them for actual communication and sound and the headsets are just there for blocking outside noise and filling those sponserships.
They probably don't care about what contractor gives them what monitor as long as they don't change it often.
@@sinaalami4148 they play csgo, they dont fucking need good sounding headphones they just need to hear information
Benefits in monitor and high FPS hardware companies: MONEY BRO
I loved Nvidia ever since i was a kid. my first Nvida graphics card was put in my computer by my dad so i can play Command & Conquer Series games but was mainly for Renegade
ok i get it, it only works on games like Valorant and CS:GO, but what GPU and CPU should i have to get this performance? because you didn't include PC specs you have used in description nor in video
They are using the best of the best ofc. which means for current Gen 5800x3D/12900KS and 3090ti.
@@froznfire9531 what if it was a NASA pc?
@@Kirigamiiii Never knew Nvidia makes PCs for NASA ^^
Let's Get to 1000Hz (or 2000Hz TOPS) then stay there, at that point it will essentially be FULL Speed of life, ZERO perceptible latency, BUTTER smoothness and GOD TIER precision with zero ghosting. A 27" 16:9 QD OLED Monitor like this at 1440p (or 4K not that I care AS much) would be GOD TIER!
When their are Screens with 2k hz ... I guess you will See 16k res lol
10 years from now should be quite amazing. 1000hz @ 8k should radically change how we play games. assuming Nvidia makes a midrange GPU capable of doing this.
impatiently waiting for 8k @ 1khz
i remember when 144hz was a luxury and now its the norm
I still treat it as luxury for me
This depends on how much you slow it down.
Ofc 500hz will be way better than 240hz or 144hz, but you can't tell the difference at normal speed.
20 years from now it will like 5000hz and it still wont make a difference.
one big problem is its nearly impossible to get 500 fps unless you have an expensive graphics card
See player earlier like my brain gonna process the image in 0.5 millisecond and give the order to my finger to click
600hz will be the sweet spot, every standard fps divides into it evenly. 24, 30, 60, 120, etc.
480 or 504 :D for a multiplicity of 24 as usual
Wouldn't it be 720hz then?
This difference isn't noticeable when you're playing in real time, first of all the panel matters more than the refresh, and second of all, it's really hard to distinguish past 200hz, even professional gamers usually can't tell the difference between 240 and 360, so 500 is really going to be nothing
You can definitely tell the difference, it's just that 240 to 360 really wast big enough of a jump. 500 on the other hand…
That being said, you are right, it depends on the panel being used.
only noobs cant tell the difference between refresh rates lol
@@soml0t how is cs not aim heavy
Response times, color accuracy/saturation and contrast is more important for me than to increase refresh rate above a certain point.
@@PD-ws4td lmao, pretty sure noone can tell the difference above like 144 fps.
Honestly 120Hz vs 240Hz even is harder to see. 500hz now? really?
It should just become the standard for all monitors.