This channel is pure comedy gold once the season starts and the Jets do Jets things. The crying every season is like sweet nectar to me. The AFC East is not up for grabs. You guys are delirious
The way many of these Jet fans talk you would think that they are talking about the 1970's Steelers, 1980s 49ers, 1990s Cowboys, or the 2000s Patriots. LOL 😆
"The heat is hot" 🔥🔥🔥 Boy you said it brother I am melting here! Now let's go win the East!!! Also, if you want to see grass at MetLife like I do watch Argentina vs. Canada in the Copa America Semifinals tomorrow night. Grass is not an issue for soccer, but too much for football in an open stadium for some inexplicable reason😭.
I believe we have enough talent and a great group of high character veterans mixed with a solid group of young players and then theres Rodgers who I believe will come out with that chip on his shoulder listening to all the doubters his veteran leadership is the glue that will make this a good year for this team He will shoulder the the responsibility that this offensive coaching staff hasn't done Its a do or die year for them and us
Not at WR. Still have only G. Wilson as the only legitimate NFL starter in the room. Williams still had a bum knee and wont even be ready for camp. Lazard is worthless. Corley is a reach pick rookie. And the rest of the room are nobodies. I am seriously concerned about this WR room.
@@billkornth if his job was ruining this team then I agree. Asking for a favor….go through all his draft picks and free agent signings. Then soak this in for a second, his winning percentage is .299 in the 4 years he’s made the decisions. Let’s understand that if the jets were a baseball team a .299 winning percentage would equate to a 48-114 record. This would put him in the top 10 in losses of all time. I need this fan base to stop embarrassing themselves by talking out of their ass.
I am am eternal pessimist so I just assume we are last in the AFC East and get the 10th pick in the draft. I'm happy if we do anything that way. It is a solid team. We have depth. We have stars. Tyrod is a great safety net.
@@LetsTalkJetsRadio I thought you knew better Tyson! We’ve been down this road before and the result is always that our season is over in November and by Thanksgiving we are in draft talk while most NFL teams are in playoff races.
@@RealisticJetsFan You're an absolute m0ron, do you not see how good this roster is? There is no way they win less than 10-11 games. You're clueless, go watch cartoons.
Nothing less than the AFC Championship.. Like you said, if not now, then when?! Loving that hat, Tyson! When will online orders go live? Hope all is well!
Great if they win the AFC East, but don't care how they get into the playoffs as long as they make a deep run. Not worried about Rodgers, i think he'll do what it takes to win whether that's throwing deep balls or playing ground and pound. My biggest concern is coaching, I have 0 confidence in coaching and really hope Saleh takes a step up this season.
@@LetsTalkJetsRadio I would have to disagree Tyson, I think that’s very unfounded. I’ve done a very good job as head coach so far with what I have had to work with. 2024 is going to be my coming out party🔥you will see
Well said Tyson. I completely agree... winning the AFC East is a very realistic expectation for this Jets team. NO MORE EXCUSES!!!! If they can't go at least 4-2 in the division it'll be (yet another) complete & total letdown of a season. No reason they shouldn't sweep the Pats & (at least) split with both Bills & Phins. Chuck Clark's return from injury this year should be a huge factor on D (despite losing Huff & JFM). I think his veteran importance & playmaking skills tend to get overlooked by many.
Wondering if we can grab mcgovern and corey davis with whatever cap we have left. Dont love the interior, but mcgovern helps a little, and davis is an ok guy. Feel like both have to be cheap and have played here. Much more comfortable with the WR room having davis as a 5 than gipson, and then brownlee will be out as 6 with gipson going to 6. Maybe add another vet late too for IOL and i think the roster on paper leading into the season may be the best in the league
@@davidgerard761 have you experienced Corey Davis!! He’s brittle and when he’s on the field he stinks! He does not want to play here anyway. And for McGovern, check out his PFF. He’s graded as a backup.
Jets have no excuses. It is put up or shut up time for the entire front office & coaching staff. It's all or nothing. "All gas no breaks" needs to graduate from silly Saleh hyperbole to the actual motto of the season. "There is no tomorrow, Stallion!" - Apollo Creed
@@LetsTalkJetsRadio well and I’ve said and like I will continue to say. The goal for the jets this season is to get to the afc divisional round. With next year if Rodgers comes back, goal should be get to afc championship or maybe even the superbowl.
Like end the playoff streak of 13 years and also win that wildcard game. That of course will result in saleh and Douglas coming back in 2025. I think if they lose in wildcard, serious argument to fire Douglas and saleh.
@@LetsTalkJetsRadio You also said I was "way off" when I said that the NYJ would win 6 games last season. ...then I bumped it up to 7 at mid season. What was there final record for 2023 again??? Now I say...7-8 wins....and still you doubt me...???
My expectations for success could not be higher. It's time to show the hell up. Even if they win the division and a playoff game... Okay? Would that be enough? Not for me. They better be inches away from a SB appearance in order for JD and Saleh to come back
@@TheIncredibleOne628 we never learn and I though Tyson would be the leader in that effort. I’m afraid he’s been mind coded into thinking this team is going to be contending all season. We must decode him!
We all know the Jets have the talent to dominate the east this year… but do the coaches have the ability to properly utilize the strengths of this team?
@@yvngxnightmare don’t the bills and dolphins have “the talent to dominate the East”? And don’t each of those teams have a superior head coach than the Jets?
@@yvngxnightmare but if you ask the average jets fan they are so much better than these teams. Every year they predict the jets to win 13 games. Every year we are winning the Super Bowl. Team can’t even have a wining record at home! This fan base causes me extreme embarrassment
@@RealisticJetsFan my favorite stat about this team is the fact that they have less AFC east titles than the Colts (Jets 4, Colts 6) And the colts haven’t been in the AFC east for over 20 years now
Even if Rodgers goes down for any length of time, there is too much talent to not win 10-11 games, minimum. Taylor is an excellent backup QB and gets the Jets into the playoffs last season. The roster is even better than last year's and the schedule is very manageable outside of SF, Jax and away at Buffalo/Miami. With Rodgers mostly/fully healthy, 12-13 wins and an SB appearance is the expectation.
@@danielmeehan1756 dolphins are better and by far have a superior head coach. They also play so well at home. Only 8 losses at home the past 3 years. 19 wins. Why will this all of a sudden be ending?
I really with you Tyson or someone like you was there to put a foot up Joe Douglas ass when shit hits the fan. Now I don’t want to sound like a downer here but we all know how these guys are Salah already proved that in June making a stupid comment that turn to a month long story about Rodgers. The Jets have a great team but they always end up mismanaging it at the end. We really have to hope for perfection from Rodgers and the starters. Saleh already drop the ball once and the season hasn’t even started yet and I feel Joe Douglas has already dropped the ball too and we just haven’t seen it yet. I’m also afraid they will sit on their hands even when opportunities come. I hope I’m wrong
@@webversal you’re totally not being stupid. You are one of the smarter people who understand we study history so not to repeat it. If you or I did our jobs like Joe Douglas we’d been fired 3 years ago. And you’re right that Saleh can’t get out of his own way and trips over his tongue constantly. It was totally his fault on the AR issue. He just should have said it was excused! And he talks to a retired sports talk host from WFAN who can’t be trusted and blurts out their conversations??? Joe Douglas and Robert Saleh are just one of many people who are simply not good at their jobs. It’s clear that the chain of command goes from AR to Woody to JD and to Saleh. Saleh and JD feel like they are the smartest in the room and now Saleh has tested that. AR has caused more than one coach to get fired and hired. You don’t think AR is fuming that Saleh had to say it was unexcused? The jets best chance for success is let AR run this team because we’ve seen what a JD/Saleh run team has done.
Okay, now you get my analysis. First of all, we need to figure out how to blackmail Legend into allowing you to use his image on a new T shirt "NY Jets 2024- No Excuses, or Else!!". My analysis FWIW: My biggest concern has been and continues to be on the coaching staff (and my personnel analysis feeds into this), they have shown an incredible lack of ability to adjust to anything. Injuries happen in the NFL, it is a reality, and does anyone think outside Ulbricht (who I have to apologize to, I wasn't enamored with him) they can? Hackett showed 0 ability, he didn't even try to come up with an offensive scheme that would work with Wilson et al. I realize they stank at QB, that we had 0 good backups I think was on JD and Saleh (and prob woody), that they were trying to salvage Wilson and didn't want to hurt his fragile ego (which is another reason Zach won't make it in the NFL, if he is that fragile, he ain't gonna make it. Take a look at the best QB's in the league, they all have healthy to outsize egos, in the sense that they don't need to be pampered the way Wilson was). Hackett just looks like a clipboard holder for Rodgers. I like Taylor at backup, he is as solid as they come, but using Rodgers plays with Taylor who is very different isn't going to work well. And Carter? The man sucked when they had the supposed starting lineup in there, they were uncoordinated, it was evident (when Saleh said he had to talk to Carter about communicating with the players as an experienced manager I wanted to vomit; how the hell did that clown become a coach, let alone a senior coach, without being able to communicate? Carter is another of Saleh's buds he promotes as coaches, I would be embarassed to admit a coach of mine couldn't communicate, good god, it is fundamental to the job!). Are the rest of the O coaches any good? Do they have a real QB coach who can work with Rodgers and the kid they drafted (yes, folks, we have to worry about the future, this could be ARs last year, win, lose or draw). The offense scares the hell out of me. The line? Yes, there are now proven players there, but what are the odds it will all work according to plan? AVT is a great player but has gone down with serious injuries 2 years in a row (which increases the chances he will get hurt again). Moses is older and has had injuries, smith has been injured a lot, and Simpson while he has been sturdy, and started all last year for the Ravens and seemed decent, is not a guaranteed performer, plus he has to learn Carter's system. Tippman looked good last year, but he is still young, can Carter and co coach him up to the next level? The Jets line to me is problematic because it basically is a case we have to hope everything goes right, that no one goes down for any length of time, and that they are able to gell as a unit since only AVT and Tippman have played together (Moses was on the Jets, but not under Can't Coach Carter). If injuries happen while I don't think Warren and Schweitzer are bad backups, we still need depth (like McGovern at Center as fa), I worry about Carter's ability to adjust, the man just seems that stupid. And with AVT, will he be ready for camp? Or will he be like Brown was last year, where he doesn't play in camp and is activated at the season start (see gelling with rest of o line). I liked them drafting Fashenu, but if Smith goes down, can he take over at LT, can Carter and co coach him up to be ready by let's say week 9 or 10? Given Smith's history, it is unlikely he plays the full season, especially at MetLife Infirmary. Receiver group looks okay if williams can play against Wilson. But the drop off is huge, my bet is Lazard is a bust once again (even AR seemed pissed at him in OTA), and then we have gipson and brownlee, who you hope with AR throwing the ball will be better, then a bunch of ??? players. And will Williams be ready at start of season? We have heard little about his recovery, will he be at camp? Again, we have to hope Williams recovers in full form, even if he is in camp it may take time before he is near 100%. Running backs it is basically Breez. I think he will be fine, but behind him there is izzy and ???. My big fear is Hackett is such an idiot that unless AR audibles and throws to Breez, they won't use him that way. The idiot west coast offense (a term I despise as much as Analytics only sports) doesn't acknowledge RBs exist. Plus if Jets run the ball, it sets up play action and the like, but will Hackett understand that since he lives in the 80's? TE I think we are okay, though again Hackett is a problem, West Coast says TEs are blocking backs. Again, let's hope AR audibles on that. Rodgers obviously is going to be how he has recovered from the achilles. Yeah, he was throwing and running again pretty quickly which is a good sign, but has the achilles caused other problems, like with throwing mechanics? I am not saying it will, and it OTA he looked pretty decent from what I have read and seen. I am not concerned about him in recovering from it, he was the anti Bechton, he went after the recovery and seems to have done the right things. I think playing wise he will be fine, if the OL holds up, even at let's say 75% he is better than most qbs in the league, and is better than anything the Jets have had in decades quite honestly (I would say Vinnie the Guinea when on top of his game). Again coaching wise it will come down to Hackett and his staff prepping the players. Assuming AR is calling the shots on the play calling, then it will be how the O coaching staff puts it together..which is a big concern for me. The defense I am less worried about. Yeah, losing Huff, Reddick being a turd, I am not happy. That said, I think the D coaching staff has proven that they can handle things. Given the nature of the defense with their rotational scheme, it is unlikely that the loss of a player or 2 is going to hurt them. Safety is a question mark still, though Davis surprised me a bit and Adams might be solid enough not to worry. Corner with Gardner, Reed and Carter should be one of the elite tandems in the league. Edge Rushing capability should be okay if Clemmons and McDonald step up especially. LB is stronger, with Quincy and Mosely there, Sherwood should be decent enough. Run stopping is a concern, though, can the line and LB stuff it better than they have? It still remains a question mark, the one blot on the defense/coaching staff. ST I am fine, that JD didn't stupidly let Zeurlein and Morestead go to save some money (I was expecting that), it is a strong point of this team. Be interesting to see with the kickoff rule change how the jets fare. Overall, on paper if everything falls right can win 12 games I am sure. That said, my concern is for that to happen it has to drop right, the O line has to stay relatively health and play well especially. When you have a scheme where everything has to go right and you rely, like the Jets, on excuses if it doesn't (the injury bleating is one of Saleh's favorites) rather than have redundancy plans, I worry, because as Moltke, the famous German field martial said " No plan of operations extends with certainty beyond the first encounter with the enemy's main strength.". What he means is to win you have to adjust constantly, something the Jets coaching staff has exhibited a complete lack of ability to do. Because of that and the odds of injuries, my guess is that the Jets will end up at 9 and 8.The Jets coaching staff never heard of plan for the worst but hope for the best, they plan for the best and excuse the worst.
This is all Jets hopium . The Jets have the best roster? lol, the Jets will be the Jets. Jets won’t sniff the playoffs. I only subscribe to this channel to watch the crying every week once the season starts. Pure comedy gold.
Again... As usual.... Too much focus on what the NYJ have and not enough attention to the 2024 opponents. I believe that this is the major reason why NYJ fans are so disappointed like midway during the season. Ex. NFC West 49ers = Outstanding Rams = Very Good ( Quick turn around on a soft rebuild) Seahawks = Better than Average ( OL questions; Defense Very Good) Cardinals = Marginal ( Respectable Draft; Very Good QB.) AFC South Colts = Good Jags = Good Texans = Better than Good Titans = (Marginal with Very Good Playmakers) You see... I've been studying our opponents....not just touting what the NYJ have on their roster. Hence why I lowered my prediction to 7-8 wins...margin of error +/- 1-2 games. Book it.
@@michaelrobinson6014 your comment is brilliant and long awaited. I feel like I’m alone on that island. This fan base, every season, goes into a mode that we are the defending champs. I have to feel that the majority of people who listen to jets content people are casual fans. It’s those fans who find out that jets lost and are disappointed for a second and get back to their lives. A passionate jets fan who loses sleep over this team will absolutely do this math. 16 AFC teams. 7 make the playoffs. I honestly see 9 teams more likely and see the Jets along with 3-4 other teams vying for a wild card. If Raven and Chiefs are a given then that leaves 5. Browns get back Chubb and got to the playoffs without him. Burrow is back and Bengals almost made playoff without him. Bills and Dolphins ain’t going anywhere. Steelers always seem to be in wildcard. Texans are on edge way up. Jaguars choked but play ok in the regular season. Raiders, broncos, colts and Jags all won 9 games last year. 3 of them had backup type QB’s. Again, there are 3 division winners, other than the AFC East. So either the Jets win the division which they have not come close to doing or they grab one of the 3 wild cards. I don’t see them winning the east so they are looking at one of the wild cards with a ton of others who have fared better
@@RealisticJetsFan WoW. Someone who has a realistic viewpoint. Caution though. You might receive a large glass of "Hater-Ade" for your assessment...like me. Yeah... I'm constantly looking for angles that the NYJ can sneak into the playoffs. But if they remain healthy....applying the same scenario to other teams...it's going to be trying season. God forbid if Garrett goes down...cause based on the limited financial resources...and Thanks for that Woody with the Aaron Rodgers move...then the NYJ could be in real trouble. So hey, It is what it is. Go Jets!!!! Get that winning record....it's all I'm truly hoping for this season.
@@LetsTalkJetsRadio True...but 11-12 wins...is a bit much. I told you last season...8-9 wins is more realistic. Takes some time...and observe what our opponents are doing. You might have a different point of view.
Jets fans, don't set yourselves up for more miserable disappointment. Miserable disappointment is what this franchise has been about for over a half century now.
Here’s what I see. A 41 year old QB coming off ACL with both tackles north of 30 with one not playing a full season since 2016. Then the best Guard has been the league 3 years and he’s been healthy for one. Their number 2 WR is new and coming off ACL. They have no back up running back. They have the worst game day coach in the league and have never had a home field advantage. Bills and Dolphins consistently won at home.
@@LetsTalkJetsRadio there is talent on every team, but not every team is talented. 7 teams make the playoffs in the AFC out of 16. That’s a huge percentage. The Jets own the record in the 4 major sports for missing this. AR is polarizing. Ask Jermichael Finely and Donald Driver and you’ll get a different opinion on his value to a team then a bright eyed 23 year old rookie. I’m ok with AR being a prick if we get one playoff game. Then what about next year? We’ve got arguable the worst GM/Coach duo. Do you really see them being one of the 7 and if so, which 9 teams do you see not making it?
@@LetsTalkJetsRadio I hope you’re right my friend, but I’ve never felt this right about things either. We have a lot going against us in terms of bad ownership, GM, Coach, field conditions, high tax state and insane media. We can’t get talent in their prime to come here. For that reason who have to take talent like an aging AR and older tackles and hope to blend them with draft picks. I’m hoping the formula works and that in a few years where not seeing Hall, Gardner and GW all playing elsewhere.
This channel is pure comedy gold once the season starts and the Jets do Jets things. The crying every season is like sweet nectar to me. The AFC East is not up for grabs. You guys are delirious
Ohhhhh I forgot the Dolphins are juggernaut... all of those recent playoff wins are def scaring everyone.. good luck with that Tua contract
The way many of these Jet fans talk you would think that they are talking about the 1970's Steelers, 1980s 49ers, 1990s Cowboys, or the 2000s Patriots. LOL 😆
@@LetsTalkJetsRadiowhat’s your record against the dolphins with tua 😂😂😂😂😂😂
For me as long as they make the playoffs that’s awesome and then go as far as possible in the playoffs. Go Jets!
that is a fair point, but the division is clearly up for grabs
@@LetsTalkJetsRadio NYJ rookies report 18 July; Veterans report 23 July.
Aaron Rodgers = TBD.
WHERE IS HE????
"The heat is hot" 🔥🔥🔥 Boy you said it brother I am melting here! Now let's go win the East!!!
Also, if you want to see grass at MetLife like I do watch Argentina vs. Canada in the Copa America Semifinals tomorrow night. Grass is not an issue for soccer, but too much for football in an open stadium for some inexplicable reason😭.
this weather has been willllddd
Will see, I always tread carefully but then I get all excited before the season starts and I think Super Bowl lol
you and me both
I think the jets are gonna be a surprisingly good team. Lord knows the fans deserve it
would it be a surprise with all of this talent?
That hat is awesome
I believe we have enough talent and a great group of high character veterans mixed with a solid group of young players and then theres Rodgers who I believe will come out with that chip on his shoulder listening to all the doubters his veteran leadership is the glue that will make this a good year for this team
He will shoulder the the responsibility that this offensive coaching staff hasn't done
Its a do or die year for them and us
a huge year ahead on and off the field
All I know is that we are STACKED!! ✈️⬆️
Seriously! JD did his job, and now it's time for the coaching staff to make it a reality. Saleh and staff have no excuses remaining.
the time is now !
@@billkornthof course they will any injury and saleh is doesn’t have his full team 🤣
Not at WR.
Still have only G. Wilson as the only legitimate NFL starter in the room.
Williams still had a bum knee and wont even be ready for camp.
Lazard is worthless.
Corley is a reach pick rookie. And the rest of the room are nobodies.
I am seriously concerned about this WR room.
@@billkornth if his job was ruining this team then I agree. Asking for a favor….go through all his draft picks and free agent signings. Then soak this in for a second, his winning percentage is .299 in the 4 years he’s made the decisions. Let’s understand that if the jets were a baseball team a .299 winning percentage would equate to a 48-114 record. This would put him in the top 10 in losses of all time. I need this fan base to stop embarrassing themselves by talking out of their ass.
I am am eternal pessimist so I just assume we are last in the AFC East and get the 10th pick in the draft. I'm happy if we do anything that way. It is a solid team. We have depth. We have stars. Tyrod is a great safety net.
I understand that, but this is a huge opportunity for the Jets
@@LetsTalkJetsRadio I thought you knew better Tyson! We’ve been down this road before and the result is always that our season is over in November and by Thanksgiving we are in draft talk while most NFL teams are in playoff races.
@@RealisticJetsFan You're an absolute m0ron, do you not see how good this roster is? There is no way they win less than 10-11 games. You're clueless, go watch cartoons.
Nothing less than the AFC Championship.. Like you said, if not now, then when?!
Loving that hat, Tyson!
When will online orders go live?
Hope all is well!
this has to be the year!
I can’t believe we’re 10 days away until training camp. Man it feels like the last month or two have flown by.
Absolutely no excuse we need the AFC east title ,home playoff game
10000%
Great if they win the AFC East, but don't care how they get into the playoffs as long as they make a deep run. Not worried about Rodgers, i think he'll do what it takes to win whether that's throwing deep balls or playing ground and pound. My biggest concern is coaching, I have 0 confidence in coaching and really hope Saleh takes a step up this season.
I have the same concern with Hackett and Saleh
its going to be another min football still feels like a lifetime away ugh!! hopefully the nxt cpl weeks go by quickly!
it will don't worry
@@LetsTalkJetsRadio Even though you only write brief sentences, I'm glad to see Tyson you actually respond to your comments. Thank you
Tyson I never make excuses
you are built on them
@@LetsTalkJetsRadio I would have to disagree Tyson, I think that’s very unfounded. I’ve done a very good job as head coach so far with what I have had to work with. 2024 is going to be my coming out party🔥you will see
Well said Tyson. I completely agree... winning the AFC East is a very realistic expectation for this Jets team. NO MORE EXCUSES!!!! If they can't go at least 4-2 in the division it'll be (yet another) complete & total letdown of a season. No reason they shouldn't sweep the Pats & (at least) split with both Bills & Phins. Chuck Clark's return from injury this year should be a huge factor on D (despite losing Huff & JFM). I think his veteran importance & playmaking skills tend to get overlooked by many.
well said!
@@GregKlein-cu3rd did the bills and dolphins leave the division?
@@RealisticJetsFanwith the "awesome job" JD has done to this roster in the off-season, the Jets are entitled to win it all! LOL 😂
@@joedimaggio3687 have you witnessed his performance as GM? Hat planet is this?
@@RealisticJetsFan I was being sarcastic. Douglas is horrible.
Wondering if we can grab mcgovern and corey davis with whatever cap we have left. Dont love the interior, but mcgovern helps a little, and davis is an ok guy. Feel like both have to be cheap and have played here. Much more comfortable with the WR room having davis as a 5 than gipson, and then brownlee will be out as 6 with gipson going to 6. Maybe add another vet late too for IOL and i think the roster on paper leading into the season may be the best in the league
I think most free agents are waiting until the start of camp to see if they can get bigger money due to an injury
@@davidgerard761 have you experienced Corey Davis!! He’s brittle and when he’s on the field he stinks! He does not want to play here anyway. And for McGovern, check out his PFF. He’s graded as a backup.
Jets have no excuses.
It is put up or shut up time for the entire front office & coaching staff.
It's all or nothing.
"All gas no breaks" needs to graduate from silly Saleh hyperbole to the actual motto of the season.
"There is no tomorrow, Stallion!" - Apollo Creed
facts... this is their last stand.. NO EXCUSES
I think that should be the expectation but if they end up finishing second I don’t think fans should kill them for that.
the expectations should remain very high
@@LetsTalkJetsRadio well and I’ve said and like I will continue to say. The goal for the jets this season is to get to the afc divisional round. With next year if Rodgers comes back, goal should be get to afc championship or maybe even the superbowl.
Like end the playoff streak of 13 years and also win that wildcard game. That of course will result in saleh and Douglas coming back in 2025. I think if they lose in wildcard, serious argument to fire Douglas and saleh.
@@michael7589 and the Bills or Dolphins, both with incredible home field advantages….you have one of them in 3rd? Which one out of curiosity?
I expect a 12 win regular season and st least 1 playoff victory hope for more victories but that's my expectations
12 wins????
Lol!!!
Name the teams....!
I am at 11 and a playoff win
@@LetsTalkJetsRadio Lol....!!!
Last year you said, 12....and a Superbowl.
Wassa matter...???
Lose your nerve?
😃 😀
@@LetsTalkJetsRadio You also said I was "way off" when I said that the NYJ would win 6 games last season. ...then I bumped it up to 7 at mid season.
What was there final record for 2023 again???
Now I say...7-8 wins....and still you doubt me...???
My expectations for success could not be higher. It's time to show the hell up.
Even if they win the division and a playoff game... Okay? Would that be enough? Not for me. They better be inches away from a SB appearance in order for JD and Saleh to come back
I am with you
Negative.
8-9 wins without a playoff appearance....and Woody Johnson extends everyone.
Are we seriously gonna do this to ourselves again? When do we learn? 😂
yes we are! lets goooooooooooooooooo
@@TheIncredibleOne628 we never learn and I though Tyson would be the leader in that effort. I’m afraid he’s been mind coded into thinking this team is going to be contending all season. We must decode him!
The only thing Jet fan should be is to be hopeful but realistic.
We all know the Jets have the talent to dominate the east this year… but do the coaches have the ability to properly utilize the strengths of this team?
a huge question especially on offense..defense should be fine
@@yvngxnightmare don’t the bills and dolphins have “the talent to dominate the East”? And don’t each of those teams have a superior head coach than the Jets?
@@RealisticJetsFan yes 😂😂 my point exactly. The Jets have yet to prove that they can play at as of a level as the Bills and dolphins
@@yvngxnightmare but if you ask the average jets fan they are so much better than these teams. Every year they predict the jets to win 13 games. Every year we are winning the Super Bowl. Team can’t even have a wining record at home! This fan base causes me extreme embarrassment
@@RealisticJetsFan my favorite stat about this team is the fact that they have less AFC east titles than the Colts (Jets 4, Colts 6)
And the colts haven’t been in the AFC east for over 20 years now
Even if Rodgers goes down for any length of time, there is too much talent to not win 10-11 games, minimum. Taylor is an excellent backup QB and gets the Jets into the playoffs last season. The roster is even better than last year's and the schedule is very manageable outside of SF, Jax and away at Buffalo/Miami. With Rodgers mostly/fully healthy, 12-13 wins and an SB appearance is the expectation.
I def expect a deep run into the playoffs
Dont dispute what you said about jets being stacked. But so are my dolphins. I think jet nation is sleeping on the dolphins.
nah, I respect the Dolphins fully... but the Jets have to finally step it up
@@danielmeehan1756 dolphins are better and by far have a superior head coach. They also play so well at home. Only 8 losses at home the past 3 years. 19 wins. Why will this all of a sudden be ending?
I really with you Tyson or someone like you was there to put a foot up Joe Douglas ass when shit hits the fan. Now I don’t want to sound like a downer here but we all know how these guys are Salah already proved that in June making a stupid comment that turn to a month long story about Rodgers.
The Jets have a great team but they always end up mismanaging it at the end. We really have to hope for perfection from Rodgers and the starters.
Saleh already drop the ball once and the season hasn’t even started yet and I feel Joe Douglas has already dropped the ball too and we just haven’t seen it yet. I’m also afraid they will sit on their hands even when opportunities come.
I hope I’m wrong
the Jets have too much talent to not be good
@@webversal you’re totally not being stupid. You are one of the smarter people who understand we study history so not to repeat it. If you or I did our jobs like Joe Douglas we’d been fired 3 years ago. And you’re right that Saleh can’t get out of his own way and trips over his tongue constantly. It was totally his fault on the AR issue. He just should have said it was excused! And he talks to a retired sports talk host from WFAN who can’t be trusted and blurts out their conversations??? Joe Douglas and Robert Saleh are just one of many people who are simply not good at their jobs. It’s clear that the chain of command goes from AR to Woody to JD and to Saleh. Saleh and JD feel like they are the smartest in the room and now Saleh has tested that. AR has caused more than one coach to get fired and hired. You don’t think AR is fuming that Saleh had to say it was unexcused? The jets best chance for success is let AR run this team because we’ve seen what a JD/Saleh run team has done.
Okay, now you get my analysis. First of all, we need to figure out how to blackmail Legend into allowing you to use his image on a new T shirt "NY Jets 2024- No Excuses, or Else!!".
My analysis FWIW:
My biggest concern has been and continues to be on the coaching staff (and my personnel analysis feeds into this), they have shown an incredible lack of ability to adjust to anything. Injuries happen in the NFL, it is a reality, and does anyone think outside Ulbricht (who I have to apologize to, I wasn't enamored with him) they can? Hackett showed 0 ability, he didn't even try to come up with an offensive scheme that would work with Wilson et al. I realize they stank at QB, that we had 0 good backups I think was on JD and Saleh (and prob woody), that they were trying to salvage Wilson and didn't want to hurt his fragile ego (which is another reason Zach won't make it in the NFL, if he is that fragile, he ain't gonna make it. Take a look at the best QB's in the league, they all have healthy to outsize egos, in the sense that they don't need to be pampered the way Wilson was). Hackett just looks like a clipboard holder for Rodgers. I like Taylor at backup, he is as solid as they come, but using Rodgers plays with Taylor who is very different isn't going to work well.
And Carter? The man sucked when they had the supposed starting lineup in there, they were uncoordinated, it was evident (when Saleh said he had to talk to Carter about communicating with the players as an experienced manager I wanted to vomit; how the hell did that clown become a coach, let alone a senior coach, without being able to communicate? Carter is another of Saleh's buds he promotes as coaches, I would be embarassed to admit a coach of mine couldn't communicate, good god, it is fundamental to the job!). Are the rest of the O coaches any good? Do they have a real QB coach who can work with Rodgers and the kid they drafted (yes, folks, we have to worry about the future, this could be ARs last year, win, lose or draw). The offense scares the hell out of me.
The line? Yes, there are now proven players there, but what are the odds it will all work according to plan? AVT is a great player but has gone down with serious injuries 2 years in a row (which increases the chances he will get hurt again). Moses is older and has had injuries, smith has been injured a lot, and Simpson while he has been sturdy, and started all last year for the Ravens and seemed decent, is not a guaranteed performer, plus he has to learn Carter's system. Tippman looked good last year, but he is still young, can Carter and co coach him up to the next level? The Jets line to me is problematic because it basically is a case we have to hope everything goes right, that no one goes down for any length of time, and that they are able to gell as a unit since only AVT and Tippman have played together (Moses was on the Jets, but not under Can't Coach Carter). If injuries happen while I don't think Warren and Schweitzer are bad backups, we still need depth (like McGovern at Center as fa), I worry about Carter's ability to adjust, the man just seems that stupid. And with AVT, will he be ready for camp? Or will he be like Brown was last year, where he doesn't play in camp and is activated at the season start (see gelling with rest of o line).
I liked them drafting Fashenu, but if Smith goes down, can he take over at LT, can Carter and co coach him up to be ready by let's say week 9 or 10? Given Smith's history, it is unlikely he plays the full season, especially at MetLife Infirmary.
Receiver group looks okay if williams can play against Wilson. But the drop off is huge, my bet is Lazard is a bust once again (even AR seemed pissed at him in OTA), and then we have gipson and brownlee, who you hope with AR throwing the ball will be better, then a bunch of ??? players. And will Williams be ready at start of season? We have heard little about his recovery, will he be at camp? Again, we have to hope Williams recovers in full form, even if he is in camp it may take time before he is near 100%.
Running backs it is basically Breez. I think he will be fine, but behind him there is izzy and ???. My big fear is Hackett is such an idiot that unless AR audibles and throws to Breez, they won't use him that way. The idiot west coast offense (a term I despise as much as Analytics only sports) doesn't acknowledge RBs exist. Plus if Jets run the ball, it sets up play action and the like, but will Hackett understand that since he lives in the 80's?
TE I think we are okay, though again Hackett is a problem, West Coast says TEs are blocking backs. Again, let's hope AR audibles on that.
Rodgers obviously is going to be how he has recovered from the achilles. Yeah, he was throwing and running again pretty quickly which is a good sign, but has the achilles caused other problems, like with throwing mechanics? I am not saying it will, and it OTA he looked pretty decent from what I have read and seen. I am not concerned about him in recovering from it, he was the anti Bechton, he went after the recovery and seems to have done the right things. I think playing wise he will be fine, if the OL holds up, even at let's say 75% he is better than most qbs in the league, and is better than anything the Jets have had in decades quite honestly (I would say Vinnie the Guinea when on top of his game).
Again coaching wise it will come down to Hackett and his staff prepping the players. Assuming AR is calling the shots on the play calling, then it will be how the O coaching staff puts it together..which is a big concern for me.
The defense I am less worried about. Yeah, losing Huff, Reddick being a turd, I am not happy. That said, I think the D coaching staff has proven that they can handle things. Given the nature of the defense with their rotational scheme, it is unlikely that the loss of a player or 2 is going to hurt them. Safety is a question mark still, though Davis surprised me a bit and Adams might be solid enough not to worry. Corner with Gardner, Reed and Carter should be one of the elite tandems in the league. Edge Rushing capability should be okay if Clemmons and McDonald step up especially.
LB is stronger, with Quincy and Mosely there, Sherwood should be decent enough.
Run stopping is a concern, though, can the line and LB stuff it better than they have? It still remains a question mark, the one blot on the defense/coaching staff.
ST I am fine, that JD didn't stupidly let Zeurlein and Morestead go to save some money (I was expecting that), it is a strong point of this team. Be interesting to see with the kickoff rule change how the jets fare.
Overall, on paper if everything falls right can win 12 games I am sure. That said, my concern is for that to happen it has to drop right, the O line has to stay relatively health and play well especially. When you have a scheme where everything has to go right and you rely, like the Jets, on excuses if it doesn't (the injury bleating is one of Saleh's favorites) rather than have redundancy plans, I worry, because as Moltke, the famous German field martial said "
No plan of operations extends with certainty beyond the first encounter with the enemy's main strength.". What he means is to win you have to adjust constantly, something the Jets coaching staff has exhibited a complete lack of ability to do. Because of that and the odds of injuries, my guess is that the Jets will end up at 9 and 8.The Jets coaching staff never heard of plan for the worst but hope for the best, they plan for the best and excuse the worst.
very fair assessment.. a lot needs to fall in place finally for the Jets... lets hope it does :) good to hear from you !
Tyrod Taylor is injury prone Tyson. Just ask any Giants fan.
not asking him to play 17 games..I think he is a very good backup qb
This is all Jets hopium . The Jets have the best roster? lol, the Jets will be the Jets. Jets won’t sniff the playoffs. I only subscribe to this channel to watch the crying every week once the season starts. Pure comedy gold.
actually this is for most teams all across the NFL..
Bills are division champs until their not,rosters don't win games
it is the offseason, this is the discussion... the past means nothing now everyone is 0-0
Again...
As usual....
Too much focus on what the NYJ have and not enough attention to the 2024 opponents.
I believe that this is the major reason why NYJ fans are so disappointed like midway during the season.
Ex.
NFC West
49ers = Outstanding
Rams = Very Good ( Quick turn around on a soft rebuild)
Seahawks = Better than Average ( OL questions; Defense Very Good)
Cardinals = Marginal ( Respectable Draft; Very Good QB.)
AFC South
Colts = Good
Jags = Good
Texans = Better than Good
Titans = (Marginal with Very Good Playmakers)
You see...
I've been studying our opponents....not just touting what the NYJ have on their roster.
Hence why I lowered my prediction to 7-8 wins...margin of error +/- 1-2 games.
Book it.
You never know what to expect from most teams year by year but I see what you are saying.. the Jets can and should compete with anyone
@@michaelrobinson6014 your comment is brilliant and long awaited. I feel like I’m alone on that island. This fan base, every season, goes into a mode that we are the defending champs. I have to feel that the majority of people who listen to jets content people are casual fans. It’s those fans who find out that jets lost and are disappointed for a second and get back to their lives. A passionate jets fan who loses sleep over this team will absolutely do this math. 16 AFC teams. 7 make the playoffs. I honestly see 9 teams more likely and see the Jets along with 3-4 other teams vying for a wild card. If Raven and Chiefs are a given then that leaves 5. Browns get back Chubb and got to the playoffs without him. Burrow is back and Bengals almost made playoff without him. Bills and Dolphins ain’t going anywhere. Steelers always seem to be in wildcard. Texans are on edge way up. Jaguars choked but play ok in the regular season. Raiders, broncos, colts and Jags all won 9 games last year. 3 of them had backup type QB’s. Again, there are 3 division winners, other than the AFC East. So either the Jets win the division which they have not come close to doing or they grab one of the 3 wild cards. I don’t see them winning the east so they are looking at one of the wild cards with a ton of others who have fared better
@@RealisticJetsFan WoW. Someone who has a realistic viewpoint. Caution though. You might receive a large glass of "Hater-Ade" for your assessment...like me.
Yeah...
I'm constantly looking for angles that the NYJ can sneak into the playoffs. But if they remain healthy....applying the same scenario to other teams...it's going to be trying season. God forbid if Garrett goes down...cause based on the limited financial resources...and Thanks for that Woody with the Aaron Rodgers move...then the NYJ could be in real trouble.
So hey,
It is what it is.
Go Jets!!!!
Get that winning record....it's all I'm truly hoping for this season.
@@LetsTalkJetsRadio True...but 11-12 wins...is a bit much. I told you last season...8-9 wins is more realistic.
Takes some time...and observe what our opponents are doing.
You might have a different point of view.
Jets fans, don't set yourselves up for more miserable disappointment. Miserable disappointment is what this franchise has been about for over a half century now.
then why be a fan? more fun to embrace the opportunity of a great season
Here’s what I see. A 41 year old QB coming off ACL with both tackles north of 30 with one not playing a full season since 2016. Then the best Guard has been the league 3 years and he’s been healthy for one. Their number 2 WR is new and coming off ACL. They have no back up running back. They have the worst game day coach in the league and have never had a home field advantage. Bills and Dolphins consistently won at home.
and do you see any talent on the team?
@@LetsTalkJetsRadio there is talent on every team, but not every team is talented. 7 teams make the playoffs in the AFC out of 16. That’s a huge percentage. The Jets own the record in the 4 major sports for missing this. AR is polarizing. Ask Jermichael Finely and Donald Driver and you’ll get a different opinion on his value to a team then a bright eyed 23 year old rookie. I’m ok with AR being a prick if we get one playoff game. Then what about next year? We’ve got arguable the worst GM/Coach duo. Do you really see them being one of the 7 and if so, which 9 teams do you see not making it?
@@RealisticJetsFan deal with next year, next year... this team has legit talent
@@LetsTalkJetsRadio I hope you’re right my friend, but I’ve never felt this right about things either. We have a lot going against us in terms of bad ownership, GM, Coach, field conditions, high tax state and insane media. We can’t get talent in their prime to come here. For that reason who have to take talent like an aging AR and older tackles and hope to blend them with draft picks. I’m hoping the formula works and that in a few years where not seeing Hall, Gardner and GW all playing elsewhere.