How to build a Garden Room - Full instructions with Storage Build
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- čas přidán 5. 08. 2024
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0:00 Intro
0:39 Walls
17:30 Front Wall With Door Opening
20:47 Door Lintel
28:32 Partitioning Wall (Storage Room Wall)
29:01 Roof Deck
42:58 Cedar Soffits
46:41 Capping Boards (Facia Boards)
48:02 DPM Wrap On Walls
48:40 Rubber Roof EPDM
55:19 Insulation and first fix cable
57:45 Floor Insulation and OSB 18MM
1:02:17 Plasterboard
1:05:42 Secret Storage Door
1:09:00 Plastering
1:10:14 Armoured Cable and CAT 6 Date Cable
1:12:01 1st Fix Electrical Cable
1:13:21 Bi Fold Door Fitting
1:15:10 Underfloor Heating
1:17:03 Box Profile Sheets
1:18:22 Cedar Cladding
This was brilliant. I’ll tell you what was so good about it, too, and that was the fact that you only showed the steps. You didn’t show the process. Too many of these videos have a bunch of filler showing measuring and cutting, and it pads things out to the point where you don’t remember any of the actual steps.
I watched all 90 minutes of this and feel like a retained enough info to do this job myself, which is an incredibly generous thing for you to do - very, very much appreciated.
Almost criminal that this channel only has 2k subscribers, this is gold standard content.
Well done 👌
Wow thank you so much for your feedback John . I can’t tell you how much that means to us, comments like that are exactly why we do the videos it really does make our day!! Thank you very much again and we are all super happy to of helped 👍
This comment is spot on John! You’ve taken the words right out of my mouth! 😊
I'm late to this party but just building my own room now so watching your video's repeatedly. The little details you show that others don't make these so useful, how to work out height for permitted development, angles of roof etc, I've watched your video on making a step 2 or 3 times, you're one of the few that took the time with that step. Thanks for the content, it really is taking a lot of the stress out of this process.
The UK should export carpenters in Southeast Asia. Beautiful men to build tiny houses. Better than exporting useless ESL teachers. Amazing skill and very clear instructions.
Beautiful build! Thanks for the detailed explanations and well put together video.
Great video and very well explained
Nice to see step by step explanation
great video to highlight some of the common / inevitable problems and their solutions. excellent
Great video, gives a person so many ideas but also the correct steps of how to do it! Great final product too....very impressive.
Right... so.... I watched this yesterday with a cup of tea. Great video! Very informative. Next one you do, i would LOVE to see you explain the CONCRETE SLAB process too.
Excellent build & looks great
Great video and guidance, lovely to watch
Hi there! Came across your video last night stayed up to watch all 11 episodes! It was incredibly generous of you to do this and your replies to comments. Not a builder but I feel I can give clear instructions (orders!) now😂Thanks again
You guys are perfectionists!!!!!!
Nobby Screws are the best for Nobby!! Lovely build should be very pleased with he direction your Company is going!!
Really appreciate you doing this. Thanks.
Nicely done can't wait to see more of your videos.
Beautiful work. Lovely to see real craftsmen. Appreciate you taking the time to share.
Thank you very much
Great video thanks. Will be building one of these next summer and you’ve answered many of my questions clearly and simply. I’ve liked and subscribed and look forward to seeing more projects like this. Well done.
That’s great Peter I bet you’re looking forward to it! We’ve got another full build video coming up in the next week or so. Thank you for subscribing really appreciate that 🙌
That's a massive job to film and edit the build. Thanks so much.
My pleasure! Thanks for watching 👍
Great job, thanks for sharing.
Your videos were brilliant, always enjoyed watching them. such a shame you don’t do them any more.
Really great info! Very generous of you to spend so much time and effort sharing your process :) Lots of good hints and tips, well explained and fun to watch. Well done!
Thanks Andrew, much appreciated! More to come, we’ve got a really good tool guide coming out on Sunday 😉 Be sure to tune in! 👍👍
Looks Beautiful 😊
Nicely done cant wait to see more of your work
Thanks very much 🙌 More videos to come! Please subscribe so you don’t miss anything 👍
Looks nice that thanks for the share
Very good work… keep it up
Very nice job helped me with some things I didn't think about. . Just about to start my own Garden office build with cedar and never thought about using corrugated panels for the side and back that is tight up against a wall and out of sight. Might look into this as will massively reduce the price and won't make any difference to the look.
It's great to have a warm, private space.
Great job gents!
Great video! Iv been looking into building my own and this video is a massive help cheers
Nice work guys and some useful tips 👍
Thanks 🙌
Thanks for sharing
Very smart job 😁
Great job
Great work guys
Thanks Luke
You’re squaring that large wall based on that one sheet. A more precise way is to measure diagonally across the length on the wall. A large X. If both lengths are the same then you’re square. That’s what framing crews do. Thanks for sharing, cool project.
Great video! Was looking for guidance on laying the rubber roof, I bet that's more difficult than you made it look! Nice job, hopefully the owner is very happy with it.
No it’s honestly very easy! Good luck!!
Thank you so much for your video. This is the most informative video i have ever seen on building a garden house. I have subribed and will revisit your chanel tomorrow for more videos hopefully like this as its past my bed time. ( i watched the whole video in one go as i entered my bed...too good to stop watching)
Awesome, thanks very much!!
Fantastic, video!
Thanks!
good stuff 👍
Great vid great work 😎👏
Thanks! Much appreciated.
Brilliant work mate. Toby get closer to whatever he’s showing us ffs 🤣 loved the tutorial and great standard of work
Great video, no waffle 👌
Thanks From appreciate that 👍 We're doing another all in one full build video soon so stay tuned
Great video and can I just say that you do amazing work. I wish you were in California - I'd hire you! :-) I love seeing the process from start to finish. Bravo
Thanks Ron 👍👍 We’ll take a flight out to Cali no problem 😉
@@creategardenrooms LOL You forgot to add "for a nominal fee". :D
I have a tip, wear ear defenders while using circular saw or you will end up shouting like Oakwood garden rooms lol.
You dont want that.
THAT’S A GOOD TIP!
DAVEY
Tinnitus is a life-wrecker
Great video! I am interested in what underfloor heating product you used. Also please make a more detailed video of the Electrical installation.
Hey, as others have said, what a great video! I'm trying to plan a DIY build and this is some of the best content I've found. Looking forward to watching more of your vids.
A couple of questions:
1) Is it beneficial to install a vapour barrier over the insulation if using PIR? Some videos say yes, it looks like you didn't in this case. What is the risk of not having a vapour barrier?
2) I'd heard that it is important to leave space above the roof insulation for ventilation (50mm between the OSB and PIR). I think in this you instead push the PIR right up against the OSB, can you comment on the options and the pros and cons here?
3) Was the slab you used here reinforced? is there a rule of thumb for how big the slab can go before you need to reinforce? (for context, I'd be building in South London, presumably onto London clay)
Again, thanks for the great video!
Yes, more 3 4 5 please matey
You explain things really well, also great job!
Thanks Michael appreciate your kind words and thanks for watching 🙌
Excellent video, air conditioning would be great for this build
Some good advice, nice video a little long if I'm honest.. a Great tip for you, put your tool belt to good use save yourself hours of time running around picking stuff up
Outstanding video, thank you 😊 how do you seal the secret door from rain etc?
I wish toby could keep up he’s always over there ,,
Use vapour barrier inside the kit to stop the cold air meeting cold air
Great build and great content. May I suggest making the next build into a daily series, drop each day when its been edited, much shorter videos and can follow progress as it happens. Keep at it 💪🏻😎💪🏻
1st class job mate! Do you have a list of the materials used at all? not so much a bill of materials down to quantities required as, but more just a yeh used OSB of X thickness for ceiling and x for floor kinda thing. planning on a 11 x 14 ft single pitch build myself with the door on gable end into the 8 x 11 area, and 2 little 5.5 x 6 foot office pods with sliding doors internal.
end price for customer and size would be lovely to. know …great job.
Really brilliant video! I'm a kitchen fitter planning a garden workshop and your insights into the structural aspects were really interesting, not to mention the superb quality of the finished building. I would hope this serves as a great advertisement for your business.
If you use imperial measurements of 16 and or 24 centres you won't need to cut so many 8 x 4 sheets. Lovey job guys!
Plasterboard is metric so if you frame the walls to suit external osb then the plasterboard inside wouldn’t land on the framing
@@kevinmorrison9186 ah ha! That explains it!
Thanks I never understood the 3,4,5 rule 😄😄
Nice video just didn't see the internal finishing thanks
Awesome video. I’m just starting research and planning for my garden room and this is so helpful. I was wondering about the cold roof - don’t you need to leave an air gap above the insulation? I like what you’ve done here as it leaves max headroom, but I’ve seen other roofs that are taller because of the air gap. Thanks.
Yeah just do the hybrid roof system like this. Saves headheight and works fine 👍
Good to see someone using a concrete slab. Lots of others don't, but my preference is a concrete slab for some gym equipment.
Any thoughts on using insulated slabs, with the insulation under the concrete?
Nice and solid 👍 As for insulating concrete I can’t comment on the benefits or even the best way to do it as I haven’t done it before. I’m guessing the reason you’re thinking of that is to gain more head height? If so, perhaps digging down could help with that. I’ve done a room before where I’ve dug down 4ft and then built from there 👍
@@creategardenrooms Part of it is internal head height (allowing for 6ft person on a treadmill), whilst trying to keep within the 2.4m lengths of timber on the walls.
My understanding of it is that insulation under the slab allows the slab to heat and store heat as a slower/lower and more efficient way, compared to over slab insulation, which is faster to heat the room, but also loses heat faster.
Depends on how often the room is used as to which is better.
There's something about burying the insulation under the weight of the building that doesn't feel right to me though!
Thanks for the videos, really useful 👍
I'm doing a flat roof next week. I used timber firrings on top the joists to get the fall. Much easier and you have a nice flat ceiling.
Yeah but if you’re keeping under a 2.5 height for PD then you gain an extra 70mm at the front of the building which to a lot of customers is imperative. 👍
@@creategardenroomsyour height would be your height so using firrings u will have the same height as if u put rafters at an angle also with using firrings no need to mess around with ceiling as it will be level
@@hewoguys2506 No it won’t. You gain an extra 70mm internal height by putting the rafters at an angle. There’s no extra work building them at an angle, if anything it’s extra work making firring strips.
@@creategardenrooms wouldnt the internal ceiling be at an angle then
@@hewoguys2506 yes of course thats how you gain the internal height 👍
nice work, I'm building one at the moment and like the way you've done the secret door. I was going to use a fire door and clad it but think this will make it a lot cheaper. did you still put a door frame in? are they parliament hinges you used?
Hi,
Hinges are from screwfix. They are extra long ones so the cedar doesn’t pinch. Just used 5x2 for the door frame I believe 👍
Good video, just one thing I would do different. Place the root rafters on top and inline with the studs. Thats how its usually done.
We fix up into them so can’t do this. They don’t need to be ontop of studs if the studs are at 400 centres.
@@creategardenrooms ah okay, I always go cc 600 so hence my comment :)
It looks great. What was final price including all materials and labor?
Great job and brilliant garden room. How much does it cost to build this size of garden room?
This is an amazing video, thank you, its a great inspiration for my project. I was wondering if you could give some advice? I am planning to do a 7 meter long by 2.5 meter wide garden room. Would you stil go with 1 wall gor the back or should I add more strenght to the midle?
Also what type of timber should I use, 6 x 2 or 8 x 2s? Many thanks
4x2 timber for studwork. 6x2 doubled up for roof joists or 5x2 doubles up with flitch beam. 8x2 doubles up for door lintels and that’s it mate 👍
Hi Guys, great video. Top quality job, can I ask if you also put a vapour barrier behind the plasterboard? Thanks
No we don’t use those. You’d be drilling holes through them for the lights, defeats the point. Plus it’s low occupancy. No showers kettles ect
1:24:40 how would you prevent water getting in above the "Secret'" door? I know the gap is minimal but still rain in the UK, does go sideways sometimes.
Looks great 👍
Is there a way to remove the belly on the corner angle of metal sheet without pinning more fixings into it?😂
Has me over everytime!
I do decide to plant a lot more fixings in . Maybe an extra trim to cover the gaps?
Also the top of the metal sheets, should cladding be placed at the soffits for water/bugs getting inside?
Thanks
It’s hard but just takes time to get it straight!
As for soffits we put timber up there but it’s nice to leave a little 2mm gap for airflow, doubt anything would get in there
Great video mate, looks spot on. Can I ask where you sourced the metal sheets from for the back and sides?
Sourced from a company based in High Wycombe called Roofline 👍
Hey, love this and copied it all the way for my build. Struggling to get an extra long key? Suggestions
@@mathodgkinson5339 Just any local locksmith that cuts keys. Ask for the longest key they have for your key.
You should make more videos will do well
Thanks Alamin. Trying to do more but it’s very hard to find the time with all the work family life ect! Will do my best to get some more up 🙌
Looks great mate. Superb attention to detail. Can I ask, how much PIR did you use? I know you said it was 75mm. Cheers
Hi mate thanks for the comment. Do you mean how many sheets did we use?
Brilliant video. What is the difference in height between the front wall and back walls to get the roof drop? Thanks
Thanks very much. It’s 70mm on a 3m span roof 👍
Personally I’ve never seen a piece of metal set fire from a bonfire or any fire for that matter. I’m pretty sure you will be safe with metal cladding 👍
Great videos thanks for posting. I missed in size of the bio-fold doors? What size are they and the shed door size?
Thanks very much. Bi-folds are 2m on this one 👍
Could you do a small video or list of the amount of wood you have used or roughly how much you need to plan a build like this
Will be doing a cut list video over the next week 👍👍
Amateur self-builder here. Question regarding DPM under your Celotex/OSB floor. When you "anchor" the floor to the concrete by drilling down through, does the holes you put in the DPM not defeat the point of having the DPM down? Cheers...Taking lots of inspiration from your videos so thank you.
Watch my other videos of flooring, we don't drill through anymore we use a floating system. Damp wouldn't get through due to the slab having a DPM down first before we do the poor of concrete 👍
Great build, how to you prevent insect ingress behind the Box Profile at the bottom (floor level)?
Thanks Gary, to be honest we’ve never had an issue with the gaps with insects or rodents. Usually we finish the edges of the garden room with stone which pushes up pretty close to the bottom of the metal sheets. Cheers
Great work chaps! Out of interest how deep was the concrete slab?
About 8 inches on this build 👍
Can you please share some details on how you did the concrete grounding? Because you started the video after the foundation had been done. Thanks
Will try my best to show this on a video soon 👍👍
This is such a good video, thanks for taking the time to make it!
One question, what were total material costs at the time of building?
Really nice build. But Jesus, poor Toby!!!!
Very nice looking build.
What locations do you cover?
I see the osb expansion gap was mentioned already.
I'm no expert but I'm worried about the T&G expansion as you butted them tight. Isn't that a problem?
You didn't used contact cement on the epdm edge. Is that because this is the grade that doesn't need it? Usual it says you need it.
Hi,
You don’t need to use contact cement on the edge when using edge trims that tack the edge of the rubber to the perimeter board of the roof deck, it would not be needed.
The osb boards won’t be getting wet therefor they will not expand as mentioned in the other post. Normal moisture in the air is not enough to make the board swell.
Thanks.
Just discovered your videos; fantastic and very clear. A question about the first fix cabling part. The way you fit them beneath the cladding rather than in the main structure of the walls makes a lot of sense, especially in terms of not compromising the insulation / having to drill holes in stud work etc. I haven't seen it done elsewhere in the same way and was just checking that it meets building regs etc? Many thanks.
Thanks very much!! It’s a much easier way yes! Unsure if it would pass regs to be honest but I don’t see why not. It passes all the electrical safety regs so that’s good enough for us 👍
Thanks
@@creategardenrooms
What kind of lock is it on hidden door ? Looking for something similar or same?
How much does something like this cost materials and labour wise?
Very nice . Can aske How much does such a room cost please now?
Would the tree be a problem in the future with the roots etc?!
Great video. Just a question about the hinges on the storage door. Is it possible to use soss hinges/invisible hinges?
We have never used them but I don’t see why not! I may give them a go on our next build!👍
Looks great. How is the shed door the same level as the rest of the cladding when the rest of it has been spaced off with batten? Thanks
Hi Brett thanks for the comment we hope you enjoyed the video.
The shed door fram is actually flush with the double batten on the front of the building. It’s hard to see in the video but when we put the door frame in we make sure it’s flush therefore we can Cedar Clad onto the front of it without any spacing!
Make sure you subscribe as we’ve got loads more content coming up shortly and another full Garden Room build video on its way!
Thanks again.
Thanks for the response. Will do
Don’t you need to have a double tap plate if your roof joists don’t land on top of your studs ?
Looks brilliant that mate I'm going go give this a go myself how much roughly give or take a 1000 am I talking including the bifold door mate. Just materials as I'm doing the work myself 😅🤞
2.5m Bi-Folds are around £2800inc Vat Tom the rest can all be found from getting prices at local Builder Merchants ect. Make sure to give Avenir Roofing a call if you're doing a rubber roof 👍
@@creategardenrooms thanks mate I'll have a shop around I know lumber keeps getting priceyer
Hi buddy... love your videos.... I like the very basic and simple way you explain things... Can I just ask a few questions please as im also building on a concrete slab... but its insulated underneath concrete with 100mm PIR.
1. As I already have the 100mm PIR insulation underneath the concrete slab (8 inches) EG: DPM - 100mm PIR - Green Vapour Barrier - 8" concrete.... would it still be necessary to put PIR ontop of the concrete or could I just - DPM over the concrete - DPC on the edges - then build ontop and gain the extra 100mm head height?
2. Is it ok to use DPM between the timber and concrete or is it best to use DPC like you do in the video?
Thanks again.
Thanks mate appreciate that. No need to insulate Ray its all good just how it is. Chuck a layer of DPM then just OSB straight onto of that 18mm T&G will do. DPM is fine under the timber but probs easier to just go and buy a roll they're only £20 or so 👍
@@creategardenrooms Thanks James for the fast response.... Legend :)
Is it important to use treated timber for the walls? I know the bottom plate in contant with concrete needs to be but can the rest be normal cls or sawn timber? Thanks
Great vid. Have you a rough idea of cost of materials for this build please?
A lot🤣🤣
Build looks 👍🏻 one question, you fixed walls directly to concrete slab with a bit of dpc under then the floor kingspan again on top of slab, if in heavy rain water pooling on slab will it not get under and cause issues with damp ?
Hi Paul, thanks for the comment.
The base is raised about 5-6 inches from the floor to prevent that happening although you can do the concrete about 1 inches higher than the surrounding ground. It’s like a house, as long as the dpc is higher than surrounding ground it would be impossible to get water coming in unless in the case of serious flooding. If properties are on a flood plain this would be taken into consideration. Anywhere else, water drains through soil so it wouldn’t pool around the base.
The slab also has a dpm underneath which comes up and wraps around the building before we do our roofing membrane on the walls so it would take a lot of water to break through that. This is shown in a part of the video so you can see how we do that 👍
Shown at 48 minutes and 20 seconds in the video 👍👍
@@creategardenrooms cheers missed you wrapping the slab dpc up 👍🏻
Do you use a level lasers at all on this project at all?