American V-Twin Showdown Harley Road Glide Special V.S. Indian Challenger (Raw)
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
- This is a raw video of a ride between a 2020 Indian Challenger 108 vs a 2019 Harley Davidson Road Glide Special 114. Roll on tests at 8-11:30 minute mark. 3 tests. Both in Stock form no mods. First roll on RGS was in 6th n Indian in 5th. Second both were in 6th gear.
Not only is the Harley getting spanked, but the buffeting around the RG driver's head is sooo obvious. Harley still hasn't addressed this after, oh about a million complaints from owners. Why? Because they don't care.
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The performance of the Indian vs HD, both in stock configurations apparently, is astounding.
Both were stock...Fact is... it was much more than I thought it would be. The Challenger easily pulled away every time.
A ninja will smoke the Polaris also.... point is they are cruisers of course they did give the Polaris more horse power but again if that’s all you want why buy a cruiser... it’s like buying a hummer and saying a corvette outruns me me everytime... aside of more horse power... and I have never needed or even considered needing more then the 114 makes stock... if every other way the rg is better better styling a lot more color choices better equipped to travel across country which I do on my 2020 limited and ultra version before it even if I wanted a Polaris I would have to go with the road master but no water cooled they still use tractor technology for that bike... quoting a Harley troll there who was bragging on Polaris.. and costs more... of course 2 out of 3 challenger versions costs more the. The road glide counter part also you can spend more... get the Polaris then you can be the first one to the bar that’s all you will have..
@@stevexaxa3619 its an Indian, a company bought by Polaris. Its like would you call an AMF Harley a bowling pin? Oh wait, they did! Anyhow, Polaris is a much more stable company, with much more manufacturing prowess. Hey if you are lucky, maybe they will buy Harley when they go down this time! Would you call THAT a Polaris too?
HAL CASEY no Polaris did not buy Indian .. Indian went out of business in 1950... Polaris bought the name only
HAL CASEY Polaris makes an inferior bike but if you want one they usually cost just a little more than Harley
I couldn’t hear a thing y’all were saying to one another and there was no comparison at the end. I rode the challenger and have owned a road glide and rode a 2019 cvo road glide bin riding Harley’s since 73 and for me the indian is all around better comfort handling performance and radio with weather overlay I presently own a 107” st glide special with air cleaner pipes and tuner the indian will eat my bike stock harley need to step it way up all around would I buy the challenger yes would I sell my Harley to buy the indian no
Did you not understand the word RAW in title or description? No music, no voice over and no commentary just basic posted video. Everything else agree 100%.
of course you wouldn't sell it, all your friends would laugh at you and we cant have that can we.....
@@sunniebeach raw can mean a lot of things
Walt... I would submit this in defense of your RG. You handicapped yourself. The way those are geared you're not going to get much power for acceleration in 6th gear at any speed much below 70 or 75. Clearly the Challenger has more legs on the top end and the Dyno charts show that. Flatter torque cruve that stays high at higher speed and RPM. I agree the Challenger has a broader powerband but that's to be expected with full liquid cooling and a two pin crank. With that said you didn't give the M8 it's best shot at showing if it can compete by lugging in 6th. That just made the difference more pronounced. That M8 motor likes revs way more than the twin cam Harleys. Shift down and spin the shit out of that thing up toward the red line more and it will show what it can do much better. I know this because my Freedom 106 in my Victory is the same way. the power band on that motor really starts to grab at 2800 to 3000 rpm on up to the 6000 red line. Ride your M8 like that and you'll like it more until you trade for the Indian. Just trying to be fair. I'm not a HD guy... Clearly I ride a Vic. Thanks....
Jim...Thank you for a very constructive comment! That seems to be rare these days! I'm gonna have both bikes because I enjoy them both. But that Challenger is def a performance Bagger!
Totally agree and the Challenger will most likely be my next bike. I had to learn that with my 4 valve overhead cam Victory Freedom 106 motor. They like the revs more than the Harley dual Cam or even the EVO motors did. The M8 is like that too. You gotta spin it harder to get the power out of her. Down shift, peg that fucker and don't let off till you're banging the rev limiter. My Victory is happiest from about 3000 rpm up to 5200. I run the shit out of it... 50K miles on the clock and she still pull's like crazy. I usually only use 6th above 75 mph. and if I'm really flogging her I hammer 5th HARD to about 110 to 115 then shift to 6th. Give that a try sometime you'll have a big grin. Just make sure you got plenty of road to run on.
Hog wash. What about when the Harley was in 5th and the Indian in 6th. It still got spanked.
Look at his tac and speedo, He's barely twisting the throttle. Fake review.
No comparison! The Indian has the Harley way out matched!
Great video. Glad to see a side by side of 2 of Americas best Touring machines on the market.
Thanks for putting in the time to make this video. I’m a touring rider and the liquid cooled v twin is really what interests me. Overheating in traffic jams and in the southern states. Harley should have built one long ago. Alongside of the air cooled bikes just like Indian has done. HARLEY:
Scale up the softail chassis get that new liquid cooled motor in it yesterday!
Agree 100%...Harley has work to do. When I ride the RGS those back shocks just rattle my kidneys. N yes I have it set correctly. Indian so much smoother ride.
Both these bikes are unique in their own way. It's a matter of choice. No bike is a wrong bike, which makes us all individuals.
You are 💯 correct...exactly what I been trying to say!
Have to agree, it’s your money, get what YOU want. I’m picking up my choice tomorrow but think I’d be happy with either one.
Went to a different Indian motorcycle dealership, the one in Denton Texas and they slapped a trunk on it right before my eyes and it fit beautifully. Fort Worth Indian lied to me. Said it wouldn't fit so I'm waiting on the catalytic converter to get cut out and baffles removed and the bag lids with speakers to arrive and the trunk should be color matched by then. Looks like a week out maybe two and I'll take delivery.
All I'd want to know is which one feels nicer to ride, gives you the most fun puts the biggest smile on your face. The Harley has the name, heritage and looks better.
Indian because of the power and balance. That's probably the biggest complaint for my RGS is the top heavy feel. Not there on the Challenger. Will have both...
All I heard was a bunch of wind 💨 noise. WHAT WERE YOU SAYING 😂😂😂😂😂.
Damn. Audio would be nice! And no comparison at the end?
A new comparison video is coming...I put RAW in the description because it was exactly that...a raw video with no editing, no voice and no commentary.
Walt Chilcott sounds good!
First indian vs hd video I've seen with these 2 bikes, good job. What gear were you for the first 2 tests? The indian fairing looks quite bigger than the RGS, how was the wind between the 2? How tall are you? I'm 6'4" and ride a victory cross country. One reason i chose the victory is it's more comfortable for me, I can stretch out. The HD'S are a little cramped to me. Per the spec sheets, only about 20 lbs difference between the 2. How did they actually feel?
In first rollon the Indian was in 5th then went 6th. The RGS was in 6th. In second rollon both were in 6th. Wind behind the was better than the Harley. I`m 6'1" with 34 inch arm length. The Indian felt more spacious. Ive heard they are just a little less than the Vic but very close. The Indian felt much lighter and better balanced with no top heavy feel.
I too ride Vic cross country and I'm 6'2". I test rode the challenger this past Saturday and the very first thing I noticed is how cramped the challenger in comparison to the Victory. I think the location of the foot board to the seat is just perfect in the Victory. The handle bar is low for my liking and that's all the things I didn't like about the Challenger. The challenger is defiantly is a performer.
I'm envious you can ride period. Snow up here in Western Canada now. So any thoughts on the overall comparison between the two? You gents did a great job showing two good bikes that can be enjoyed together. No need to get anyone's back up.
Padre Moto the best I can say is I’ll be getting the Challenger. The balance, power, and overall ride and feel of the bike is better than the Harley. The RGS still feels top heavy to me and the Infotainment system has a 8 inch longer reach than on the Indian. I’m 73 inches tall with 34 inch arm length.
Harley never got over 3K rpms in either of those roll offs. In the second roll off he actually started decelerating as the Indian pulled away. The comparison could not be more blatantly fake. Ride what you want. I don't care. But don't post fake videos to make yourself feel better about what you bought.
Ah the first troll! Were you there? Didn’t think so. 80 MPH was the roll off. So get bent! Accept or don’t could care less! Wait till the Challenger blows your doors off n you can start crying then!
Plus u ass I’m the RGS Owner!
While both are amazing machines, regardless of how you cry about the video, the Challenger in stock form is gonna beat the Road Glide in stock form anytime. Dyno and advertised horsepower /torque numbers for both bikes can already tell you what's going to happen.
@@CDLNEPA Thank You! An intelligent input!
Maybe he is still in break in mode. I agree I was watching the tach and he never pushed it. I ride a 114 so I know at 3000rpm and above it will run. But I will push mine.
We need more videos of comparisons please, from 0-100
Zakariya Bokhamseen indeed! This time full throttle that gas hd rider. Don’t stop at 70-75. I really would like to see the Real result
@@sangcod the result is clear, I wanna see how severe it will be haha
Cool video Mr. Chilcott. I could have predicted the results based on the numerous reviews I have seen already, but you put it out there for all to see. What will be interesting is to see what Lloyd Greer does for this new power plus motor. If he can get the same results that he did for the Victory 106 motor and for a reasonable amount of money like he did the 106, I know I have one, well then hang on - we shall see. Heck I would be happy at just stock anyway - I think. Many wonderful miles on both bikes. Got to love North Florida.
The first of many vids to come about these two machines.
I didn't see much movement on the tachometer or speedometer. I have a 2020 road glide limited and with the wife on mine moves alot faster. So to me the video doesn't seem accurate. I'm not saying I doubt the Indian will pull away on the harley but it feels like you were holding back
I agree. I have a 2019 SG and watching the roll ons I did not see the tach moving at all. Would like to see a real comparison where they actually throttle the RG.
I agree also
I wish we could of heard the comments between the two of you. It would of been nice to here your thoughts about the two bikes. But with that said I ride a dyna wide glide. I have rode the new Challenger. It was a demo ride so the ride wasn't long enough to get a good feel. I do know this the Challenger was a great ride. The things I did notice is the motor was metric sounding. The engine had rattling sound to it. It didn't have that solid powerful HD sound. Not that it isn't powerful. If you listen to both engines you should be able to hear what I'm talking about. I know the Challenger is not a Harley. But the sound of the Harley is something I like. But everything else about the Challenger I really like. I wish they would of put all the features they offer in the bike at a price point of around 20k. 28k to get the total package puts it out of a lot of peoples price range. I can't see paying 30k out the door for a bike. That's one thing these companies don't get. Once you get past the 20k mark it just don't make sense for the average person to buy on a 60k a year income. Regardless of the brand. I do like both bikes. Love the adjustable windshield. I do feel the Challenger has more bang for the buck if you buying the base model. Now only if it sounded like a Harley!!
If you don't have to have the best and the newest bikes.. Seems there is going to be a lot of used bikes for sale .. so the guys who like new tech and buy the new bikes. HD has some exiting new Liquid cooled bikes coming out in 2021
Man I miss my wide Glide. I really enjoyed setting car alarms off... The Way It handle. The103 was a perfect match for that bike.
Both bikes are great, the Indian gives more for the buck off the bat. The Road Glide requires sinking more money into it to achieve the same level, ie: LED lights, windshield, torque, keyless locking, etc, etc. I ride a Road King and love it. One cannot go wrong with either bike, matter of personal preference.
Harley in the end game shits on the Indian....
this video didn't do much for either bike..Most of the 26:11 of video was just 2 bikes going down the road. Not much to go on...
I had a 2018 Road Glide Special with the 107ci. It was pretty weak so far as the engine. Traded it for a 114. I thought there would be a big difference. Not really. I could barely tell a difference between the two. Cycle World dyno'd a 114 Road glide at 76.13 rear wheel horsepower. 108 ft lbs torque. Not enough for a bike that heavy. Indian has the right idea.
May I suggest you guys ride to Fairbanks Alaska, the roads are far from perfect but fully paved with minimal gravel sections. See who's last on the rollback. Skip the Haul Road and take the Marine Highway out of Haines back to Bellingham, Wa.
off the first stoplight after the turn, was the RG EVEN TRYING?
Great video, thanks for taking the time and sharing!
That harley looks so awsome.
Im liking it...Have some KST 12 inch Renegades to install.
Don Danos give me the indian
I bought a 2020 limited... no contest to me if you like Polaris it’s fine ride it
Steve Xaxa like I said i had a 08 ultra glide and I’m sure the 2020 limited is head and shoulders above the 08 but between all my bikes I found the Vision and my present bike the 2016 Indian Roadmaster the most comfortable, maybe because I’m vertically challenged 5’6” but it doesn’t matter what you ride, only a biker knows why a dog sticks his head out the window of the car
I like both but this does not show anything. But guys having a good ride
Nice video 👍🏽
2020 Harley is out and comes with the RDRS system so why not compare that bike against the challenger?
This is a crap video for a comparison. I am a Victory guy, but this does not show what it can do vrs the Harley.
Michael Rutter we were just out riding n threw this up to show a small comparison. If you want pro media comparison go somewhere else with your negativity!
Nice video, but you really need a microphone in your helmet. Wind noise made your talking impossible to hear
Highmilagerider you are correct...just got a GoPro 7 bout a month ago. Bought windbreaker n wind mode on GoPro seemed to make it worse. Onto next experiment.
I have a GoPro hero 5 black and use the You Mic plugged into the GoPro audio adaptor. Seems to work well but like all electronic things it often has a mind of its own. I look forward to more of your videos. Ride safe.
Performance is one thing, look's are another I would have to go with the Harley.
They are both nice looking bikes but I got to roll with the Indian..modern tech and a lot more power..
To me the Harley is still the wayyy better looking bike. You can always add on horsepower.
Looks don't make a good motorcycle or girlfriend. Substance and character are key in both, unless your just a jerkoff.
@@robertpolkamp Well Character its not even close. The road glide destroys that knock off. The Clone-inger has the personality of a minivan.
Unruly Rider it’s hard to make a visual comparison without riding ?!?!?
Unruly Rider. My op is about looks. It LOOKS lame. It looks like it should have a CD player in the dash. Road glides dripping in personality. This is a Harley for step dads!
Unruly Rider I clicked your account you traded your Dyna for an FTR. FTR is a sick looking bike. It’s it’s own thing! And good on both of you. This bikes a clone. And it’s ugly. I’d rather a road glide any day!
Its all a matter of preference, personally I would want the more powerful bike but others arent concerned with more power since the one with less power still has a lot of power and it is sufficient for them. The less powerful bike may have a better ride feel and that is more important to certain people than having more power.
I agree its a matter of preference...Faster doesnt necessarly mean better...Its all subjective
Need to have commentary between the two riders to compare. This video does not follow what its title is about.
Hmmmm looking at the two bikes side by side the challenger looks way different. The backends are the only thing that really looks similar.
indian for the win in my book...all these people calling the challenger a knock off or clone must think hd was the only bike with that fixed fairing look...i've always thought the RG was the ugliest bike on the road...
Two beautiful bikes.
So your saying the Indian is better on roll on power than the harley?
Not sure what I just watched. Just two guys riding motorcycles.
Mike Williams amazes me the differences what Harley vs Indian riders see!
Was the indian in Standard or sport mode?
Standard
this just makes me want a rg a lot more...i can wait on the performance, not that id buy a Harley for performance though
Wow that Indian ate it up..
The Challenger really exposes all that space in the fairing and behind the engine the RGS has..Don't look right now.
I’d much rather own a victory or an Indian than Harley, I feel as if Harley guys are just like Chevy guys, they hate to even think that another brand can make something better because they are one branded
Boyz Burgau there hasn’t been a better brand made yet lol
Love the Corner Cafe! Nice bikes guys!
Unfortunately its out of business now. Been a rough year for local mom n pops. Lost several in the panhandle.
Even though this looks like a 650Ib Smackdown for guys over 60, LOL)))))...it just shows how much power a Watercooled Engine makes compared to an Air Cooled
Not to be a hater but this is pretty much a useless comparison the way they were testing. Not saying that the Indian isn’t faster but these bike have different cam profiles, and different gear ratios so these roll ons are not a true depiction of how they close they may be. Take them out and run them with no restrictions as to what gear your in or rpm your at and see how they do. The Indian still may be ahead of the road line but I bet with good riders on both bikes the Road Glide will be a lot closer than most think. It will certainly be closer than what is shown in this video.
Just as I said in my video. The torque from 2k to 4k rpm is almost the same but above 4k the hp of the liquid cooled engine takes over. Plus the red line of the "Challenger" is higher. It more compares to the goldwing them the air cooled road glide but regardless Harley Davidson has no choice but to raise the bar again like they have been doing since 1903. Not 2011 like Indian.
The old phrase “Nothing beats cubic. Was that something Harley came up with 😂😂
I don’t like the fairing or the engine/exhaust sound of the Indian. The performance isn’t that important on these bikes to me. Cruisers, baggers etc are slow and don’t handle for crap anyway. Also don’t need the “tech” so many are raving about to cruise and chill out on a good ride. If I wanna haul ass I’ll take my sport bike. My Harley softail looks and sounds better than any other brand of similar bike. The engine(103) looks sick with the aftermarket covers and the sound of the Vance and Hines slip-ons with the loud baffles has a rumble unlike any metric or Indian. With a lowering kit and custom front fender it also looks much better than the other bikes in my opinion, which to be honest is the only one I care about.
Unruly Rider it’s a cruiser that I use for cruising. I turn on my music and relax and enjoy a chill ride. If you read my comment I would assume you read the entire thing which included “if I wanna haul ass I’ll take my sport bike.” The sport bike is made for the possibility of fun you must be speaking of. I’ve plenty of it and if I’m being honest I enjoy going fast in my car more than on a bike. I’ve driven since I was a kid with a gokarl. Riding is fun but I’m a wheel man, not a biker.
You’re comparing apples and oranges! They have a fixed fairing in common. That’s about it. Frames are made differently. Engines are different. Suspensions are different. One feels like a Harley and the other doesn’t. Nothing feels like a Harley! If I have to explain that, you wouldn’t understand
Harley Davidson Roadglide Special!!!!
Are we done here?
Both very nice bikes 🤘🏽
Embarrassing for HD here however, while you may find the occasional HD rider who leaves his engine stock, most mod the engine to a point where this race would be a lot closer or the HD would be the bike walking away. That modding is a big part of the fun. As much as 50% or more power can be easily coaxed out of HD engines. Don't get me wrong, I am a huge fan of the new Challenger. But, unless the aftermarket jumps onboard in a huge way, such that engine mods to the degree of available HD mods, the Challenger isn't gonna sell as well as it could. And that is sad to me.
My Triumph Speed RS would smoke both bikes but who cares? I like both of these better! Those bikes are fun to ride and are plenty fast practically speaking. Love the look of the RG personally but the Indian performance is cool for a big twin. The future is bright for bagger bro’s.
I think the first roll on you guys weren’t in the same gear? I wouldn’t have expected that much delta.
Well ride what you like but I looked into Polaris but bought the road glide limited.... the challenger might take it in a race but if I want to race I’ll buy a ninja..(fastest production bike made) .. the 114 I have already rode cross cou try 2 up loaded heavy and always had plenty of power90+ down the interstate... honestly Polaris is plagued with engineering problems and customer service issues even if that wasn’t an issue the bike to me is not as attractive as toe road glide far fewer color options no option for lowers or your pack... and the limited has water cooled heads which makes it run a lot cooler
Liquid cooled vs. Air-cooled it's apples and oranges. You should also be one gear lower on the Road Glide because it likes higher revs then what we are used to on Harleys. That said, I am glad the Polaris is spanking the Harley. Maybe it will force Harley to up their game. They can make a bike just as good as the Polaris but just flat-out refuse to do it. The Challengers only downfall is that it is dog ass ugly. But in the long run competition is a good thing and hopefully Harley will update and all the areas they've been lacking. The old consumer for HD is getting too old to ride and afford new bikes. The new consumers will not be as against liquid cooling and we'll expect all the features that the Challenger is coming with on the Harleys. Competition will only benefit us all. And even though I will say the Challenger beats the Harley and every way I'll stick with Harley
is the challenger in sport mod?
No, the Road Glide was in Heritage mode.
I think most riders of these big Vtwin bikes only ride around town, and small/med poker runs Etc...I think that's why you have such bitter infighting and Brand loyalty, But if you TOUR this country, and tour with your Lady most the time too. The engineering upgrades/Features Indian is putting into their cruisers is a BIG DIFFERENCE. when you pack up for 8 days and drive thru thousands of miles of weather, road hazards and experience all conditions, You really start appreciating features some see as Doodads, as major importance to you safety/and comfort. HD has a true Rivalry now, and HD cant go running behind the American flag anymore. Indian is here to stay, HD will step up , They have been hard at work developing new modern Motorbikes in other areas and growing their portfolio , and that Engineering will pay off for their big cruisers too eventually.
OH Geez HD in trouble! Not a HD hater..It is healthy competition. HD owners y'all might get your RG CVO now.
Riding tall, just did a Zippers 124 kit and now has 150 lbs of torque and 130 HP on his street glide. If its just power you want, Zippers, T-man, S&S or Fuel Moto just to name a few, can build a killer M8. Non the less the performance of that stock Indian is impressive and will be tested and shown off quite a bit in the future.
At least with a challenger you won't get it lost in a parking lot a bike rally. Lots of fanboy road glides out there
MOST GUYS HERE REALLY WANTED TO BUY THIS BIKE, BUT WIFE'S SAID NO!!! 🤣
All I can say is I ran my 19 RGS against a challenger and from a dig I had him by about half a bike length. The Harley don’t have a lot of top end and running in 6th gear at 55-65 mph you ain’t going to keep up. I’ll run my RGS against any challenger from a dig or from a slow roll and I don’t think there will be much of a difference. Just my opinion
Joe Vandivner Is your RGS stock? If so the Challenger rider didn’t know what he was doing.
I only have exhaust and intake. And if the challenger was truly that much faster. As in the video then it should not matter. All I’m saying is the challenger is not that much faster than the RGS. From 0 or slow roll. But any Harley if u are in 6th gear at 55-65 mph and try to take off it ain’t going to work. The challenger has more top end than the Harley.
@@joevandivner9704 The slower you go the worse it's going to be for the Harley. It's way out gunned. Those are facts, not opinions.
Well yo don’t get much more fact than real world and from my experience that’s not the case. Top end yes by far the Indian will walk away from the road glide bottom end they are not much different
@@joevandivner9704 It's easy to get the jump on someone from a dig. When you do a roll on it's all motor.
The audio was terrible
SLINGSHOT________ Engage!!
Huh?
Indian wins @ 0.01 you can go back to watching Grizzly 🐻 mace to the unsuspecting face now.
There are always a few Polaris dealers or stock holders who get on here stomp and yell that Polaris is better but they are not aside of quality issues the challenger is dog butt ugly
He's not ever hitting the throttle I rode 2029 HD road glide with a 114 city motor and it is very powerful then what he is showing, I am a motorcycle rider,it's like trying to make the Indian challenger look better, be fair get on it,it has the power.
Back from the future? tell us more...
What kind of comparison is that, not even a drag race.
speed isnt important to a Harley, remember? its right in your owners manual.
That's why everybody hops up their Harley-Davidson
noisy for a liquid-cooled engine.
After market parts are a few years away yet 🤔😨
No
I'm just saying thars a lot more choices by a long shot 😎👍
I like batwings over fixed fairing. In fact, i will not own a fixed fairing bike.
Harley has always had a suck ass suspension. Too soft and too little travel. How does the Indian ride ? I definitely want a better suspension with longer travel on my next bike. Harley is dumber than hell if they think I’m going to buy a new bike from them and then have to spend thousand more trying to improve their junk ass suspension. Improve but not fix because there isn’t enough travel to work with..
I appreciate your video, however if people were buying harley for performance, it would've been out of business. Indian had to make this type of bike to even sell some. I love performance, however if that was my some reason for buying a bike, I would be on a gold wing or bmw. We ride harley for the culture. Indian will never match that. Ijs.
HUGE CONTRADICTION ☝️ STAGE 1 Stage 2 STAGE 3 Stage 4 .... Screamin CHICKEN 🐔 SO ... what’s that all about ?
The "Harley Cuture" and the attitude that often follows is precisely why I have no interest in owning one. I refuse to join the Harley cult.
Lol this shit cracks me up! Wanna go fast? This ain't it! You wanna see how these bike's handle in real world situations? Give them to a couple of younger guys and give them a weekend to beat on them from light to light on the highway from Philly to AC and back. Controlled testing is just soft lies. I have $1,000 for any challenger or road glide to can beat gsxr1000 in any performance? It won't happen and I'll tell you why these bike are not really built for performance or racing there built for long comfortable SLOW rides.
no matter how much indian tries there not a harley
No, they aren't...thankfully. (BTW, it's "they're)
Thank god ...It would take them 50 years to make a change to a model line.
What in the hell is the dude on the HD doing?! He’s riding that thing like he’s borrowed it from someone that told him if there’s any dust on it after you’re done you’re literally shot!
The guy on the road glide made no attempt to stay with the challenger at the beginning.
Prefer the RoadKing Special 😎
I own a 19 RGS and the numbers are bs
dedhefers.inc the HD numbers or Indian?
If he’s getting left behind like that he isn’t trying very hard. Mine acts like it wants to launch in every frigging gear.
For what its worth - this is like the ol days of whats better Ford or Chevy and then came Chrysler and smoked them all! to me is a brand war nothing more than that. Yes Harley needs to step up to the plate with solid innovation, Polaris is still a Polaris its not the Indian of old, Polaris just purchased a brand name to cash in on, capture a market, study the best selling Harley models, adjust innovate bring to market basically a quicker bike is it better on a dyno yes but longevity maybe not. Now will Indian last, will they go the long distance with miles on the road over time, or will they end up like rice rockets and be worn out within 5 -7 years and due major rebuilds? My old Z1000R would outrun both of these bikes big time. Sometimes we need to remember its not about the Gorilla beating its chest in im bigger and stronger......It's about riding whats in your soul, potato potato or a sowing machine!......Great vid Walt cheers & thanks champ.
Lets' settle the HD VS Indian Controversy put them on a road course and a drag strip .. and take them on a long trip riding double with lots of luggage and traded bikes back and fourth between the riders.. It's a lot of money to spend.. for two wheels
I suggested the Alaska Canada highway. See who's last on the rollback. It's pretty much fully paved but rough.
@@robertpolkamp I want to ride to AK.. and don't want to try it on Yamaha FZ-07 with 17" front tire and 24 caster.. I plan to purchase an Adventure bike like Yamaha T-700 or KTM 790-Adventure..
What boring riding bikes.
Roll on comparison .....how about from a dead stop and thrash both those lounge chairs. Besides , the outcome of what you did do very predictable. Indian has more power and weights less. I like both bikes. And the lowest price indian challenger is tempting. Lowers and tour pack and I like that challenger even more.
That POLARIS (the imitator) has some power but Harley is the real and the original.
Becker Inal you mean the real loser.
Goldwing had first fixed fairing, is harley a copycat too?
You need to do your research. HD died in 1969. AMF bought the brand and crap canned the last member of the Harley family who worked there. Today's HD is not the same company. I t only took three years for Indian to build as good a touring bike as Harley sells. More standard options for less money. I have rode both the Roadmaster and ultra limited. Indian rides and handles better than the ultra.