The Truth About the "Banned Books" of the Bible: Evidence for the Bible pt14

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  • Including quotes and summaries of the "lost gospels" and "banned books". Never again be caught off guard or confounded by references to the Gospel of Thomas, the Gospel of Peter, the Gospel of Mary, or the Gospel of Judas.

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  • @Angelotube5000
    @Angelotube5000 Před 4 lety +316

    19:11 Gospel of Thomas
    25:43 Infancy Gospel of Thomas
    31:55 Gospel of Mary
    36:30 Gospel of Peter
    41:25 Protoevangelion of James
    48:00 Gospel of Judas
    50:08 Acts of John
    50:35 Acts of Paul

    • @cb90222
      @cb90222 Před 3 lety +8

      Jasher, the book of Susanna, Enoch, etc etc all book missi from the Bible bc of the Vatican doesn't want you to know the truth

    • @jhamilton1007
      @jhamilton1007 Před 3 lety +2

      @@cb90222 Maccabees as well

    • @timrodriguez16
      @timrodriguez16 Před 3 lety +7

      Acts of Paul sounds like a great Narnia book!

    • @jhamilton1007
      @jhamilton1007 Před 3 lety +3

      @@timrodriguez16 Or DUNE

    • @runnininthe80s84
      @runnininthe80s84 Před 3 lety +3

      @@cb90222 they are all easily available online.

  • @joeg9840
    @joeg9840 Před 4 lety +204

    As a newer believer, Mike has been an answer to my prayers! There are so many people with so many views and opinions but Mike Winger clearly studies hard and thoroughly, there is no doubt in my mind and more importantly my HEART that he speaks truth! God bless you Michael!

    • @metoo3705
      @metoo3705 Před 3 lety +1

      Agree 💯

    • @joseg.solano1891
      @joseg.solano1891 Před 2 lety

      Mind = heart

    • @Gen-ZChristian
      @Gen-ZChristian Před 2 lety +1

      May you please share your testimony?

    • @beebarfthebard
      @beebarfthebard Před rokem

      me too

    • @dp1381
      @dp1381 Před rokem +1

      I too am a new believer and I love Mike Winger. He clearly does thorough research on ever topic he presents, and presents the information simply.

  • @alexandria1663
    @alexandria1663 Před 2 lety +54

    Man, I was talking to a Catholic about Mary’s perpetual virginity and he told me that exact explanation from the Protoevangelion. How I WISH I’d known the source back then! Thank you for this series a hundred times. It’s so so helpful.

    • @AmeeraG242
      @AmeeraG242 Před 2 lety +7

      That is so helpful to know ! I frequently witness to catholics and they throw alot at you these sources and knowledge is so helpful

  • @powerfulaura5166
    @powerfulaura5166 Před rokem +55

    1:28 1 Clement
    4:05 The Didache
    10:56 The Shepherd of Hermas
    13:17 Polycarp's Epistle to the Philippians
    ☝ Pinned comment is useful, but here are timestamps for the wholesome, early Christian (non-heretical) reading.

    • @malenejensen2995
      @malenejensen2995 Před 8 měsíci +2

      I really want to read the Didache now, even though I'm not a new Christian... But I have finally forsaken the hyper charismatic movement 😊

    • @powerfulaura5166
      @powerfulaura5166 Před 7 měsíci

      _The Didache_ is a great read indeed.@@malenejensen2995

    • @janniagonzalez5459
      @janniagonzalez5459 Před měsícem

      thanks so much, I couldn't get the names just by hearing

  • @HeyTripleJ
    @HeyTripleJ Před rokem +41

    It’s extremely painful when people you love don’t have discernment or fall victim easily to heresy, cults/cult thinking, and deception. :( it hurts to watch end it hurts even more to experience.😢

  • @marciemartin1685
    @marciemartin1685 Před 4 lety +99

    Thank you Sooooo Much!! I spent last night praying to God about these books, I came to my computer & asked again for him to help me understand...AND BOOM!! There you were!! PRAISE YOU GOD FOR ANSWERING PRAYERS!!

    • @KorenJoy
      @KorenJoy Před 3 lety +6

      Praise YHWH 🙌🏾

    • @AmeeraG242
      @AmeeraG242 Před 2 lety

      Same thing happened to me !

    • @AveCaesar2112
      @AveCaesar2112 Před 2 lety

      Wow, you found the search bar!

    • @henrytims4745
      @henrytims4745 Před rokem

      @@AveCaesar2112 do you not feel at all embarrassed over how whiny you sound?

    • @iKeto_gal
      @iKeto_gal Před 3 měsíci

      @@AveCaesar2112 Don't think he searched, but that it showed up in his recommendations

  • @kevinsolveson5480
    @kevinsolveson5480 Před 2 lety +45

    "When you get a little more information, it really helps you out" - Mike Winger. Amen, Mike! Thank you!

  • @CommonSense858
    @CommonSense858 Před rokem +10

    Having come out of the independent baptist movement...Mike Winger has been an amazing breath of fresh air. Thanks Mike!

  • @candiceknuth-winterfeldt2922

    This has absolutely nothing to do with the subject matter, but I had a thought.... if someone wanted to get you a gift, a plaid shirt seems like a safe bet! Good job being faithful in your ministry. God bless.

    • @MikeWinger
      @MikeWinger  Před 6 lety +30

      Haha

    • @redxpro1
      @redxpro1 Před 4 lety +2

      Candice Knuth-Winterfeldt I wear shirts like that. It’s pretty nice! I’d wear that!!

    • @dpcrn
      @dpcrn Před 3 lety +4

      Looks like a Western shirt. He wears it well.

    • @meomy29
      @meomy29 Před 2 lety +3

      How many plaid shirts do you suppose he's gotten in the mail since you posted this? ha ha ha

  • @txwjkumxyooj2026
    @txwjkumxyooj2026 Před 6 lety +33

    I LOVE CHRISTIANS AND PASTORS LIKE YOU!

  • @MAP2023
    @MAP2023 Před 4 lety +23

    Please make a Second part with the Book of Enoch and the Deutorocanonical Old Testament books!!!

  • @christopherg.matton9610
    @christopherg.matton9610 Před 3 lety +80

    The Infancy Gospel of Thomas sounds like an early draft of The Omen

    • @nexteffects
      @nexteffects Před 3 lety +4

      Jesus: Don't make me angry Mr. McGee. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry.

    • @KKKaTTT123
      @KKKaTTT123 Před 3 lety +1

      🤣🤣🤣🤣👍

    • @cnramsey
      @cnramsey Před 3 lety +7

      I guess now we know why Joseph is missing from the Gospels. 🤣

    • @nosuchthing8
      @nosuchthing8 Před 2 lety +1

      Yup. The religion for breakfast yt stream has an entire show about it.

    • @blickysticky6012
      @blickysticky6012 Před 8 měsíci

      What is the omen

  • @jgil1966
    @jgil1966 Před 4 lety +14

    I love this video so much, it's so funny i always come back to it every other 8 months lol

  • @carolinatoledo5255
    @carolinatoledo5255 Před 4 lety +70

    I died with the "Infancy Gospel of Thomas" 😂

    • @cardcounter21
      @cardcounter21 Před 3 lety

      Your brain died with the "talking snake and donkey and someone living inside a fishes belly" Gospel!

    • @music0326
      @music0326 Před 3 lety

      Your brain died when it killed God

    • @smallhors848
      @smallhors848 Před 3 lety +14

      @@cardcounter21 well that’s not a gospel…

    • @thebirdaplierphd.memeology3411
      @thebirdaplierphd.memeology3411 Před 3 lety +8

      @@cardcounter21 The talking snake was either just Satan in a different form or Satan possessing a snake, and not an actual snake, the donkey could not talk on it's own and was only able to talk through the power of God, and Jonah was likely made to be able to live inside the giant fish/whale through the power of God.

    • @cardcounter21
      @cardcounter21 Před 3 lety

      @@thebirdaplierphd.memeology3411 _The talking snake was either just Satan in a different form or Satan possessing a snake, and not an actual snake_
      So why did God punish all snakes for what Satan did?

  • @ambermattheis4539
    @ambermattheis4539 Před rokem +2

    Thank you so much for researching this content and sharing your findings in such an accessible way! I love listening to your videos!

  • @linderize
    @linderize Před 7 lety +15

    thank you. thank you. THANK YOU. OH MY GOSH YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA ... NONE. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU. finally, someone WHO KNOWS WHAT TIME IT IS. THANK YOU, JESUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @gerilynn9002
    @gerilynn9002 Před 5 lety +12

    As you went through the Gnostic rejected books and how ridiculous they are I couldn't stop thinking.... I would love to see someone do a mockumentary cartoon (laugh your butt off) depiction of these stories... a spoof that presents how hideous and far out there that these are and... hope that it would go viral. For all those who have not actually read the text but are more than willing to proclaim "lost gospels" and "banned books" as if Christianity/the church has deprived of secret wisdom... it would be great to see the foolishness of the believers of these revealed and that it would be lunacy to find any value in these writings.

  • @fbnflaviusbroadcastingnetw6786

    These books were not canonical for three reasons: One, with the heresies in some, and with the inconsistencies, unknown histories, and such within them. Two, with the inconsistencies and inaccuracies, and not going with the flow of the teachings of the Scriptures. Number three, because they were not inspired by God.. they were not God-breathed.. they were not written by the apostles of Christ. To be an apostle, you have had to have seen the Risen Christ, and personally be called by Him in to that special office. So, that is why none of these books are in the Bible.

    • @reviewtechUSSR1
      @reviewtechUSSR1 Před rokem +1

      So in other words they don't make you feel as nice and fuzzy inside?

    • @user-cs7fg5eq9r
      @user-cs7fg5eq9r Před rokem

      @@reviewtechUSSR1 In other words their useless for people like you and you don't like it.

    • @ifeanyichukwu3644
      @ifeanyichukwu3644 Před rokem +8

      @@reviewtechUSSR1 No 🤦‍♂️

    • @reviewtechUSSR1
      @reviewtechUSSR1 Před rokem

      @@ifeanyichukwu3644 Yes. Sorry I'm right and you're wrong.

    • @ifeanyichukwu3644
      @ifeanyichukwu3644 Před rokem +11

      @@reviewtechUSSR1 Nope. You are wrong, extremely wrong

  • @Mojojojo85757
    @Mojojojo85757 Před 3 lety +8

    When you mentioned the gospel of Thomas video I had to STOP ✋ and immediately go find it, and I’m so glad I did 😂 my favorite thing about it is the filmmakers choice to represent Jesus like a cheesy 80s double exposure portrait 🤣🤣🤣

    • @brandon.crotchett
      @brandon.crotchett Před 2 lety +3

      Do you have a link to it? I can’t seem to find it lol

  • @willbyrob6582
    @willbyrob6582 Před 3 lety +30

    What if one day, they dig up an ancient text called “The Gospel of Pilate” 😂

    • @TheRangeroftheWastes
      @TheRangeroftheWastes Před 2 lety

      There is one. Not joking about that haha

    • @TheRangeroftheWastes
      @TheRangeroftheWastes Před 2 lety

      @TheGoodOlRebel Yes. Its all about how Pilate became a believer after the crucifixion, what he witnessed after the death and resurrection, and the letters he sent afterwards telling the world of christ.

    • @TheRangeroftheWastes
      @TheRangeroftheWastes Před 2 lety

      @TheGoodOlRebel sorry haha. I thought you were the OP

    • @donatist59
      @donatist59 Před 8 měsíci

      Pilate is a Saint in the Coptic church!

  • @kvelez
    @kvelez Před 3 lety +15

    Thanks, I've been studying the gnostics and how to refute them, and this helped a lot.
    Much love and blessing to you brother Winger.

  • @Narrow-Pather
    @Narrow-Pather Před 4 lety +3

    I'm excited to begin listening and studying this. Thank you.

  • @deborahjiggens7199
    @deborahjiggens7199 Před 6 lety +6

    Awesome Brother ❤ and I laughed so hard! We all need a great laugh, even in these last days. In curious about all the other lost books, if any be creditable?

  • @curiositychroniclesx
    @curiositychroniclesx Před 3 lety +17

    Such a great video. I’ve been enjoying your channel! It’s like a course in Christian apology. Very thorough! I feel so smart after watching 😃

  • @jishaphilip6353
    @jishaphilip6353 Před 2 lety +2

    May God bless you abundantly Mike. Thanks for your videos

  • @YeshuaSaves3
    @YeshuaSaves3 Před 3 lety +9

    Hey Mike! Love your content brother, I just had a question. Are these recordings from your Sunday service or do these talks happen on another day like some sort of Bible study night?

  • @TheChillBison
    @TheChillBison Před rokem +4

    This one was definitely fun! All these "gospels" so clearly just take themselves down. Internally inconsistent, inconsistent with the four gospels, outright nonsensical in places. As you said, about what you would expect of fiction.

  • @Papasquatch73
    @Papasquatch73 Před 4 lety +3

    Mike I just want you to know I have been using your material since last September. I am now on this lesson. I took off the summer. It is a blessing what you prepare that keeps blessing. I take 2 to 3 Bible class periods to cover one of yours. So eventually I will finish this series. I am in no hurry. I have the remainder of my life to share the Word with you. I pray for you often to stay strong in the face of adversity. California can be tough

  • @murdaqapitol5044
    @murdaqapitol5044 Před 4 lety +2

    U did a great job man. Plus super funny!! Love it man keep doin ur thing!

  • @ladycampion
    @ladycampion Před 3 lety +29

    Did anyone else think of The Twilight Zone's "It's a Good Life" when he read from The Infancy Gospel of Thomas?

  • @jaspin555
    @jaspin555 Před 5 lety +100

    Can you please cover the book of Enoch specifically?

    • @med4699
      @med4699 Před 4 lety +4

      Please do.

    • @XlllXlllXlllX
      @XlllXlllXlllX Před 4 lety +4

      @@med4699 he's not going to ... because it goes against his secret "christian conversion agenda"

    • @XlllXlllXlllX
      @XlllXlllXlllX Před 4 lety +4

      @Caleb Lewis ...I was raised Christian...but I will admit...I left Christianity because of the hypocrisy...and secrecy __ie : the "book of Enoch" + the "greed, racism & feminist narcissism" that they hide (not all)...but at some point...I simply had enough...no offense

    • @billhesford6098
      @billhesford6098 Před 4 lety +15

      @Caleb Lewis Psalm 32: 1-3 "Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered. Blessed is the man unto whom the LORD imputeth not iniquity...:" The gospel is truly or actually very good news. God chooses to not impute (ascribe) sin to his elect. God chooses to cover our sin. Like He covered Adam with animal skins in the Garden of Eden.
      The early church did not accept Enoch. We have plenty of early writers before 200 AD speaking of the accepted books and Enoch was not considered scripture. It was read along with a lot of other books like we read other materials today. But Enoch was never considered scripture. That I know of. I don't think we can add it today with an honest look at church history. Throw away church history at our peril. Which book will be found interesting next? Or removed -because there will be more put forward. That is what history tells us.

    • @Rose-wx2ct
      @Rose-wx2ct Před 3 lety +2

      Book of Enoch just prove the Bible,not disprove:)

  • @gavart4509
    @gavart4509 Před 3 lety +11

    I’m glad that “evil baby Jesus” at 38 mins got a laugh, that was hilarious

  • @karenhall4645
    @karenhall4645 Před 4 lety +11

    Thank you, finally somebody on God's side addresses this! I have watched the documentaries on the banned books and all the "scholars" who defend them and it's cringe inducing.

  • @henrytooren9691
    @henrytooren9691 Před 5 lety +28

    When I studied theology in the Netherlands Bart Ehrman's book was my textbook on the new testament. I Iearned a lot from it.
    Later in my third year I leaned about gnosis and gospels like the gospel of Thomas and the childhood gospels.I had to translate them.
    What I learned from Ehrman made very clear to me that those gospels were fake. Ehrman is a historian, the non christian kind.

    • @shredhed572
      @shredhed572 Před 3 lety +3

      A lot of people say many things. Ermans claim of being an historian isn't true.
      He says he is to give himself cred.

  • @jgil1966
    @jgil1966 Před 5 lety +6

    this was so much fun i didn't want it to end!

  • @Meg_219
    @Meg_219 Před rokem +3

    So helpful, as always Pastor Mike

  • @shantelcole96
    @shantelcole96 Před 3 lety +14

    Great study, thank you. I was hoping you would talk about the book of Enoch, it's been mentioned a lot lately.

    • @eugenesanders3094
      @eugenesanders3094 Před 3 lety +4

      Jude quotes from Enoch directly in the context of it being authoritative. Peter alludes to it also. It is an indisputable fact that early Christians (even biblical authors) considered the Book of Enoch to be inspired. The Ethiopian Orthodox Church still includes The Book of Enoch in it's canon today.

    • @shantelcole96
      @shantelcole96 Před 3 lety +8

      @@eugenesanders3094 yes, I agree. I believe that because the book of Enoch is somewhat reliable, Mark didn't include it in this study but I'd like to know why wasn't it included.

    • @booboochild4215
      @booboochild4215 Před 7 měsíci +1

      from what i have researched in the past it wasn't added because they couldn't 100% guarantee it all written by enoch and they thought people may have added on to it

  • @twiceborn_by_grace
    @twiceborn_by_grace Před 6 lety +16

    The infancy gospel of Thomas makes me wonder if Anne Rice used it when she wrote Young Messiah.

    • @lonelyguyofficial8335
      @lonelyguyofficial8335 Před 5 lety

      Maybe, but then only by principle, being, about him as a child. The rest she clearly gave the finger to. Lol.

    • @marylandgirl9246
      @marylandgirl9246 Před 2 lety +1

      I was thinking that too.

  • @DareusTyn
    @DareusTyn Před 4 lety +3

    Thanks for your hard work doing thorough research.

  • @mommy2lou
    @mommy2lou Před 5 lety +15

    This had me laughing more than an intentional comedy! Any one with a mediocre knowledge of the gospel will recognize these books as agendized forgeries. If not, well, I'd have to question that person's intelligence.
    Thank you Mik Winger. I love your channel. God bless.

    • @ashleyvalkoss2130
      @ashleyvalkoss2130 Před 4 lety +3

      Adria on the vine did that ego come from Jesus? Humble yourself and pray, seek truth.

    • @redxpro1
      @redxpro1 Před 4 lety +1

      Adria: Satans job it to deceive, confuse and divide. After reading most of these “rejected” books and closely comparing them to the KJV Bible. It’s pretty clear that SOME of these are heresy and others (that were part of the original texts before the 1611 version King James changes) were widely accepted as inspired. So if the devil can convince people that they ALL are heresy, he’s done his job confusing and dividing. When you read these books you have to pray first and ask God to open your eyes with deep discernment and then you’ll KNOW if they are from God or not!

  • @whipdadash6135
    @whipdadash6135 Před 7 lety +5

    Great Video i been searching the reason of why these books were left out for some time and this helped alot thank you and God Bless

    • @MikeWinger
      @MikeWinger  Před 7 lety +5

      +WhipdaDash thank you!

    • @whipdadash6135
      @whipdadash6135 Před 7 lety +2

      As old as i am (30) i been searching for months why Book of Enoch and the others were completely rooted out. Knowing that i am a very Big Revelation of John fan and seeing this controversy surround one quote left me down and confused. Digging and delving deep in the modern history of man..one Quote kept me thinking. "any thing that is added or taken out is, those people will not inherit the Kingdom of God." Now giving the idea i didn't go Verbatim but i could not wrap around my head because 21st Century Christians seem to lose any logic beyond what they see.I Just have to give credit to the world we live in for such ignorance and people like you is what i like to see who aren't afraid to challenge the status quo of this world. Truly i thank you for this it answers alot and gives me more Curious Questions.

    • @MikeWinger
      @MikeWinger  Před 7 lety +3

      +WhipdaDash I'm glad I could help in some way.

  • @karenhall4645
    @karenhall4645 Před 3 lety +30

    When you add myth to the Gospel you get comedy. Listening to the resurrection story from The Gospel of Peter, I'm sitting here laughing. I'm relieved the talking cross never made the cut.

    • @miss_pearl
      @miss_pearl Před 3 lety +7

      The infancy gospel OF Thomas finished me with laughter. These gospels are pure comedy.

    • @eugenesanders3094
      @eugenesanders3094 Před 3 lety +2

      Yes, the Gospel of Thomas is without a doubt a pseudepigraphic work, but so are some of the writings in the Bible, such as the pseudo-pauline epistles. To use the word "forgery" to describe this kind of ancient literature is a loaded term because ancient scriptural authors did not see it the same way. Using the name of a famous legendary figure was simply a way to get attention to the writing and did not have the kind of unethical baggage that the term "forgery" has to modern ears. The Book of Enoch is also clearly pseudepigraphic... and yet JUDE, in his epistle, quotes from it directly in the context of it being authoritative. Jude says that "Enoch prophesied" those words in the Book of Enoch, and yet the Book of Enoch was written centuries after Enoch. So...the Bible itself sets a precedent for embracing pseudepigraphic "forgeries."

    • @canabiss8297
      @canabiss8297 Před 2 lety

      @@eugenesanders3094 false. flat out wrong.

    • @eugenesanders3094
      @eugenesanders3094 Před 2 lety

      @@canabiss8297 No, everything I said was truthful. Sorry if you're upset by facts.

    • @eugenesanders3094
      @eugenesanders3094 Před 2 lety +1

      @Pro Semite It is the NT epistle of Jude that quotes directly from the pseudepigraphic Book of Enoch, in the context of it being inspired. Jude clearly believed that the Book of Enoch was the inspired word of God & authoritative.

  • @athb4hu
    @athb4hu Před 5 lety +4

    Thank you for this, it was fascinating.

  • @brotherandrew6227
    @brotherandrew6227 Před 5 lety

    Great job Mr. Winger. This earns Brother Andrew's seal of approval.

  • @moorzy8385
    @moorzy8385 Před rokem +3

    I’m so glad you said Shepard of Hermas was “weird”. I said the same and was worried I was just missing something lol

  • @waitingandwatching9328
    @waitingandwatching9328 Před 5 lety +14

    Just watched this in Feb 2019 and was grateful for the info. It was hilarious...when we learn this stuff yes you have to laugh when you here the lies. Keep up the good work Mike.

  • @liliankuhn4671
    @liliankuhn4671 Před 2 lety +3

    Wow! The Gospel of Thomas contains words & phrases that don't even sound like Yeshua's teachings. That's pretty dangerous. Also, I remember a youtube video a man made who converted from Muslim to Catholicism & he mentioned a clay bird & how Yeshua breathed life into it. That is not in the bible & that never happened. God bless you for taking the time to speak about these untruths about our Messiah. Amen!

  • @seanm.3481
    @seanm.3481 Před 2 lety +2

    They'll say "SEE THIS IS IN THE SCRIPTURES AND ITS STUPID" like yeah its garbage. That's why it wasn't added to the Bible.

  • @aprilstark8887
    @aprilstark8887 Před 5 lety +3

    Great teaching, thanks!

  • @jonorcutt3304
    @jonorcutt3304 Před rokem

    Excellent. Thank you Mike from 6 years ago.

  • @Oct_sflb
    @Oct_sflb Před 3 lety +5

    "Whoever drinks from My mouth-"
    *Pardon.*

  • @penguinman9837
    @penguinman9837 Před 4 lety

    This was great! Thank you! God Bless!

  • @joebidensdiaper8526
    @joebidensdiaper8526 Před 4 lety +2

    Fantastic information, thank you...

  • @jennamarielovesjesus12
    @jennamarielovesjesus12 Před 3 lety +2

    All the channels you mentioned is the problem and reason people fall away from the faith. They talk about all of this stuff and then people start to question. If it’s not in the Bible, then leave IT ALONE !!!! Jesus is Lord ✝️✝️

  • @withlove6973
    @withlove6973 Před 4 lety +10

    Thank you for this. I had heard some of these beliefs and discounted them as nonsense, little did I know just how extraordinarily ridiculous these were...
    I'm deeply comforted that Paul didn't baptize the lion without a profession of faith....whew!

  • @jeremymckeithan7142
    @jeremymckeithan7142 Před 3 lety

    Awesome video brother, loved the tbn joke and relating the secret to narcissism!

  • @jamesthelesser6975
    @jamesthelesser6975 Před 4 lety +48

    I was hoping he would have touched on the book of Jasher and the book of Enoch

    • @fbnflaviusbroadcastingnetw6786
      @fbnflaviusbroadcastingnetw6786 Před 3 lety

      James The Lesser doesn’t matter, for they both still are apocryphal.

    • @soupcoup3912
      @soupcoup3912 Před 3 lety +1

      @@fbnflaviusbroadcastingnetw6786 I would like to know why

    • @explodingrubberducky797
      @explodingrubberducky797 Před 3 lety +12

      @@fbnflaviusbroadcastingnetw6786 Yet Jude Quotes Enoch. Peter alludes to enoch especially in the areas where he talks about the Angels who rebelled being bound in chains of darkness.

    • @adalynroseprescott8927
      @adalynroseprescott8927 Před 3 lety +1

      I have heard a lot of well respected gospel loving Christians use the book of Enoch a lot so maybe that’s why. Who knows?

    • @explodingrubberducky797
      @explodingrubberducky797 Před 3 lety +13

      @@adalynroseprescott8927 I've read the entire book of Enoch, and honestly, I don't see why a number of people fear it so much. For a book that wasn't penned by Christians, it has the clearest portrayal/prophecy of Christ that any discerning Christian would notice. It has one of the clearest arguments against abortions and even prophesies about abortion in the end times etc.

  • @PastorwithoutaPulpit
    @PastorwithoutaPulpit Před rokem +1

    I just want unfettered access to the Vad's Libraries, basements and hidden storage vaults.
    Can you imagine the knowledge that's been locked away by supposed "Holy Men" that have decided for themselves that it is not for our "untrained" eyes/minds for literal centuries/millennia?
    Yes, my Bibles are enough for me but one can dream can't they and wish to know our Lord even more.
    I mean how amazing would it be to find works from the Library of Alexandria that only exist in those secure from the "wrong eyes" libraries/vaults/basements...
    God Bless...

  • @markmooney5662
    @markmooney5662 Před 3 lety

    So glad to find this video....as these false doctrines are appearing yet again in documentary form in 2021.....IE the marriage of Jesus and Mary of Magdalene.....GOD bless and keep the Christian family and please protect the Word from these false doctrines.
    Grace and peace
    Gilly wife of Mark

  • @craftymining8587
    @craftymining8587 Před 5 lety +3

    The most important belief is accepting Jesus and the most important knowledge is knowing what is of God and what is of the Devil.

  • @michaelarango7782
    @michaelarango7782 Před 4 lety +12

    Surprised that the most requested book on here wasn’t touched

  • @MalachiCo0
    @MalachiCo0 Před 2 lety +2

    The sayings in Gospel of Thomas sounds like that one stoner that gets high and starts thinking about philosophy and it doesn't make a lick of sense

  • @taoyang_
    @taoyang_ Před 2 lety

    This is an amazing video👏🏾

  • @lanceforeman3675
    @lanceforeman3675 Před 3 lety

    Nice work brother🙏👊

  • @DanielLynds
    @DanielLynds Před rokem

    so interesting. thanks!

  • @yasminpanasjuk682
    @yasminpanasjuk682 Před 2 lety +2

    Today we would call those things fanfictions.

  • @janwaska521
    @janwaska521 Před 3 lety +3

    We may laugh at the nonsense that is found in those evil materials, but it’s really another sad reflection of our rebellious condition that can’t be cured by natural remedies, but only by God’s Grace. These days the most stupid books become bestsellers before publication. We like to entertain ourselves to the grave watching, reading or listening to complete nonsense that at best is a waste if precious time.
    The Bible reveals our sinful condition in contrast to our Creator’s perfect purity. That’s why the apostle Paul considered himself the first of sinners, a wretched man. The closer we get to the true Light of the world, the bigger our imperfections appear.
    Some of the comments in this thread show how easily we can be unaware of our own ignorance. I was in that condition for a substantial part of the years that I’ve been around. So much nonsense is found in some comments. Only deep ignorance can explain it.
    However, it’s better not to discuss with them, lest one throw pearls to the pigs.

  • @titusstahl1995
    @titusstahl1995 Před 5 měsíci

    Hi, where can I find the song that plays at the end of this video? Thank you for your tireless work and dedication to providing solid biblical content!

  • @kevinsBiblicaldiscussions

    Great video bro

  • @somebodyelseathome
    @somebodyelseathome Před 7 lety +4

    very good video

  • @mikebeamen6307
    @mikebeamen6307 Před 4 lety +1

    good stuff .

  • @serges9351
    @serges9351 Před 5 lety +24

    Can you please continue this video and cover a few more books such as...
    "The Book Of Jasher"
    and
    "The Book Of Enoch" ?

    • @getter_done
      @getter_done Před 5 lety +2

      What about....The book of. Nicodemus?

    • @boonrobiadek
      @boonrobiadek Před 5 lety +2

      Yeah those are popular now days

    • @justchilling704
      @justchilling704 Před 5 lety +6

      To my knowledge they are both Jewish literature that Jesus likely read they aren’t inspired so thus not apart of scripture but, they are still interesting History/historical books.

  • @apostolicashley7444
    @apostolicashley7444 Před 5 lety +3

    Hi there Mike, I noticed while studying the Didache in Chapter 9 it references the Last Super or Comunion and says to only share this with the saints that have been baptized in the name of Jesus, the literal word here is the Greek name for Jesus. I have read some historical commentaries, whom lean toward the opinion that this "Trinitarian Formula" was actually an addition to further inspire the doctorine of the Catholic church, hence the head sprinkling, which I notice you paraphrased as "whatever they had available".

    • @canabiss8297
      @canabiss8297 Před 2 lety +1

      you just read that into it completely

  • @Freidis
    @Freidis Před rokem +1

    19:40 Oh my goodness I found it. The video is called “Gospel of Thomas Movie, Gentle” and can confirm, he is both wide-eyed and spooky looking.

  • @TheBlubunni
    @TheBlubunni Před 5 lety +6

    😂😂😂 the readings from the weird books.... too funny! 😂😂😂 dead!!!

    • @cardcounter21
      @cardcounter21 Před 3 lety

      I laugh every time I read about talking donkeys and snakes!

  • @susanibuanokpe9592
    @susanibuanokpe9592 Před rokem +1

    Im finding the need to comment, because as much as I'm loving this series, particularly the Daniel parts as it really reignited my faith, I wish when you speak about the gnostic books that it wasnt dismissed so quickly simply because its comical to you, unbelievable or doesn't correspond with what is said in the accepted Canon books. Some of us coming at this from a place of real doubt, and for whatever reason, were not able to dismiss it so easily. The dating of when they were written is a great help, but the thing with doubt is that thos niggling questions of: "well how do they know the right date?", "and "what if all of these gnostic books are right, and all of the Canon books are wrong" start to ring in your ears.
    As I said, I'm loving the series, but the rationale for why books are cannon and why some are not, cannot be "because they themselves (the author) says it's a word from God, and it was accepted without question in their time." We have examples of religions, sects and cults who have done the same thing throughout time. And likewise, saying its "gnostic and not ever considered cannon" because they are so different to what is accepted cannon, is a hard rationale to swallow.
    Im listening, and I'm learning plus watching your videos where you answer questions and its definitely helping. But I just needed to pause and comment this thinking. Thanks

    • @Strongtower
      @Strongtower Před rokem +1

      Check out Wesley Huff. He's a Bible scholar and I think he'd help you.

  • @benrex7775
    @benrex7775 Před 5 lety +10

    Finally know where the age of Mary and the age of Joseph come from. Now I can rest easy and dismiss it completely.

  • @ericsonofjohn9384
    @ericsonofjohn9384 Před 2 lety +2

    Only on the gospel of Thomas, but it’s interesting that he chose “sayings” rather than actually telling a cohesive narrative.
    You have to plan a cohesive narrative, you have to understand history, the notable people, and get the acts all in order. But with “sayings”, you can pretty much come up with whatever you like if you think you can convince people it’s godly.
    Notice that Muhammed also did this. The quran is a book of sayings.

  • @JR-ug1oy
    @JR-ug1oy Před 2 lety +2

    i was actual getting worried way that they were real but thanks this has been an answer to my prayers ish since I got divided on this

  • @ogloc6308
    @ogloc6308 Před 2 lety +1

    these are actually hilarious lol thanks pastor mike

  • @jimmyneighbors4943
    @jimmyneighbors4943 Před 5 lety +9

    should I wonder about Joel. it quotes from Enoch.

  • @jgil1966
    @jgil1966 Před 4 lety

    Please make a Part 2

  • @MuMu-fu7qe
    @MuMu-fu7qe Před 3 lety +5

    I downloaded an app that has a bunch of lost books. I found the Psalms of Solomon and the First Book of Adam & Eve really interesting. I think of it as Bible fan fiction. I hope it hasn't clouded my understanding of the scriptures though! Eeek lol

    • @FaithfulComforter
      @FaithfulComforter Před rokem

      Don’t forget that canon Biblical scripture is always quoting each other and exalting the deity of Christ and our Heavenly Father’s love and creation.

  • @thewisemanband
    @thewisemanband Před 5 lety +3

    Not saying that I believe in “the lost books of the Bible” but you have to understand the hive-minded romans and Jews ( who killed Jesus because of his teachings). The Bible is a book of history which was first written by romans and Jews. The term hive-mind I used is the mentality of these people. They wanted to control how their people think (it worked) so they would stay in power. If Jesus himself was killed because of his teachings. Why would you believe anything his killers would say? I’m not saying everything in the Bible is wrong but a lot of teachings from Jesus were taken out because the romans and Jews didn’t want anyone to know about. So in all fact how would you know what Jesus ACTUALLY taught by reading the Bible that was wrote by a power hungry hive mind that KILLED Jesus because of his teachings?

  • @sketchstuffs
    @sketchstuffs Před 2 lety +3

    Ok so I have a theory as to the origin of the infancy Thomas book. After hearing all of this, all I could think of is some guys got together and wrote some form of comic book style entertainment along the lines of what Brightburn is to Superman. So, like a “what if” type situation. It was probably even read as such (entertainment) in that day, and then throughout the years it slowly lost it’s original ridiculousness as a crazy what if story and morphed into an actual gospel.

  • @77hephzibah
    @77hephzibah Před 4 lety +3

    I LOLed when Mike said TBN 🤣🤣🤣

  • @GrabEmByThePlushie
    @GrabEmByThePlushie Před 5 měsíci

    I watched this whole series shortly after it came out as i started truly growing in my walk with Christ. Now 7 years later and knowing a lot more, it really hits harder. Especially these heretical text.

  • @karenhall4645
    @karenhall4645 Před 3 lety +2

    Funny that the Gospel of Thomas dehumanizes women. But all those documentaries say that Mary was second in command and the books were hidden to hide this fact. Kind of a contradiction there.

  • @shaysdy3357
    @shaysdy3357 Před 3 lety

    It helped me to read it because it answered alot of questions i had . It filled in a lot of blank (enoch ).

  • @stoneballer
    @stoneballer Před 2 lety

    Great job I agree with everything. Could you touch on book of the giants and book of Enoch.

  • @NihouNi
    @NihouNi Před 2 lety +2

    Thankyou once again for your erudition. I had no idea this would be so entertaining (though I doubt, as a woman I'd've found it so entertaining if anyone really believed the necessity of my becoming male).

  • @livingtoaster1358
    @livingtoaster1358 Před 2 lety +8

    One of the things that made me start doubting my faith was knowing the existence of non canonical books in the bible but listening to what they were now it is ridiculous also slight correction Judas in the book of Judas was seen like the devil even in there but it just shows that Judas was well aware of his role which makes no sense if he killed himself and confessed that he killed an innocent man

  • @thefonz1589
    @thefonz1589 Před 4 lety +3

    Q...ever heard of Neville Goddard? I would love to hear your opinion on his teachings...thanks!

  • @eugenesanders3094
    @eugenesanders3094 Před 3 lety +1

    The Epistle of Barnabas also condemns abortion in no uncertain terms... far more clear than anything that made the NT canon. It makes me wonder why the Lord didn't inspire believers to include this kind of ultra-clear condemnation of abortion in the Protestant Canon.

    • @stephenmatthews161
      @stephenmatthews161 Před 3 lety +1

      Be careful not to look through a social justice lens when reading the NT,jesus never mentions slavery which was a societal norm in the Roman empire,and the apostles just advise how to behave as a christian slave or a christian owner of a slave,we might wonder why a christian who had slaves in his household did not just free them with a generous gift so they could make a new start,the apostles never commanded this in the fledgling churches and we suppose there were reasons why not.

    • @eugenesanders3094
      @eugenesanders3094 Před 3 lety

      @@stephenmatthews161 The simple reason that slavery was condoned in the NT is because it was so culturally normative that the human biblical authors did not question the immorality of it. The OT even condones the taking of women to be marital sex slaves as the booty of war after giving them a month to grieve for their family members, who their new slave owners just slaughtered. And lets not forget that YHVH supposedly sanctioned murderous genocide as well. Those are the kind of absurdities one must believe if they are a biblical inerrantist.

    • @BrotherInChristDK
      @BrotherInChristDK Před rokem +1

      @@eugenesanders3094 you don’t understand the Bible Eugene

  • @Deacondan240
    @Deacondan240 Před 5 lety +1

    The Shepard of Hermes is pretty interesting.

  • @PizzaFvngs
    @PizzaFvngs Před 7 měsíci

    Fun fact about the Shepherd of Hermas: It was actually found in the codex sinaiticus; which was used in primary for most modern translations of the Bible. Not the KJV however.

  • @jaonatohinirina565
    @jaonatohinirina565 Před 2 lety +2

    The gospel of mary sounds like a video game pitch 😂😂

  • @nikolausschug5727
    @nikolausschug5727 Před 3 lety +1

    I want to hear more about the testament of Moses mentioned in the new Testament.

  • @FireShine-ss4sb
    @FireShine-ss4sb Před měsícem

    I found only two so far. Book of Jasher, mentioned in Joshua 10:13 and 2 Samuel 1:18
    And Epistle of Barnabus which was his gospel he preached from mentioned in Colossians 4:10. And he signed Hebrews in 13:22, in code, the meaning of his name. The Encourager.

    • @FireShine-ss4sb
      @FireShine-ss4sb Před měsícem

      The other ones don't seem to add any " new cool truth". We are supposed to hear the Voice of the Comforter to get this new cool truth. All the Bible can do is point you to GOD.

  • @saiyongdawn7756
    @saiyongdawn7756 Před 5 lety +7

    And the book of Enoch some of it was quoted in the NT.

    • @meganwestberry5963
      @meganwestberry5963 Před 4 lety +1

      The book of Enoch is legit. To say that its not just because its not in the "Holy Bible" thats the Catholic church all put together, is very close minded.

    • @shredhed572
      @shredhed572 Před 3 lety +1

      @@meganwestberry5963
      Enoch doesn't mean the criterion of the Canon of Scripture.
      To find out what "Canon " means is easy. I suggest you look up this important subject.