*A few years ago did consider buying an EV as were stated to be the best thing since sliced bread however now so glad I opted instead to get a Mercedes late 2019 from a local main dealer - (W247) B200 CDi AMG 8 Speed [Diesel] with 81 miles on the clock (ex Demo) with all the latest tricks etc - and got a massive discount of nearly 10k from list price. This has absolutely amazed me, so so quiet, incredible range and over 35 mile journey (A6/A46) to Newark in Eco Mode [Freewheels when lifting throttle] did 93.2 mpg and took a screenshot from Mercedes Me App to prove it - hit traffic near end so dropped a bit. This car will no doubt still be running in 20 years time and still giving good sensible practical use. I don't make many journeys outside most EV's Range, but during summertime take generally a trip every week of between 150-300 miles Cotswolds, Wales or Cromer - I start to Range Anxiety when see only have 60 Miles left in tank and warning light comes on ! - If I wished to sell it (which I don't) would expect to get around £22½k not much less than I paid for it ! - Say no more*
My 84 year old father bought a 2021 Kia e-Niro about 3 weeks ago, and the following day drove nearly 400 miles to visit us in northern Scotland. I haven't seen him as enthusiastic about anything else (other than golf!) for probably 20 years, he says driving had become a chore and now it's a pleasure again. First week of June he starts a month long tour of bucket list golf courses around the UK and Ireland, something he's wanted to do for ages but couldn't be bothered with the driving until now. p.s. The two guys on their way to a meeting seems to be one of those apocryphal stories doing the rounds. We would have to assume they weren't so stupid as to leave for an important meeting without charging the car. If they've got to Thurrock before realising they have to charge, how much further could they be going? Into London, a bit further into Essex or Kent, maybe 50 miles max? So why take an hour to charge? 10 minutes would be plenty, and it's what anyone with an EV would do; but non-EV drivers who make up these stories can't get past the ICE habit of filling the tank.
@OldGeezersDiary I've heard the same story numerous times in slightly different settings. You're telling me those two guys still had 200+ miles to go to their meeting?
@@garysmith5025 I don't bother to tell porkies. I find that the simple truth is sufficient for me. I don't have any background to their situation, other than they were simply standing by the car and I asked.
I’ve owned a Tesla Y for over two years and 50k kilometres. I live in Canada and am as old as you are. I love it and would never go back to petrol. When cars first came on the market there were people who didn’t want to give up their horse and buggy
If you can charge them at home and don't regularly travel over 600km in a day they are great. wouldn't go back without a good reason. EVs have a fuel gauge as well.
First of all "respect" :-) I have been driving an EV for three years now (a Tesla) and i absolutely love it. I just ordered a second one. I drove this year from the UK to Greece in my Tesla and had no problems. The entire journey cost me £137 in charging. This was often using hotel free chargers. What i love about my EV... so quick and effortless to drive, so fast, so quiet, cheap, no emissions, no break dust, no servicing, no road tax, self driving on the motorways (Tesla). All the nightmare stories about EV are simply not true. My Tesla plans the entire route including charging stops and it is very accurate. Charging is about 25 mins per 3.5 hours of driving. By the time you have walk to the motorway services building, had a pee, bought a coffee and walked back to the car, your battery is charged and ready. How people can run out of power is beyond me 🧐, there are chargers "everywhere". Even Albania and Bulgaria have good EV charging. Also remember the EVs are in their infancy. In 10 - 20 years there will be driving 2000 miles on a charge (may be).
I used to have a similar view point as yourself. Now I am the opposite. In fact our next car (hopefully arriving in Sept) will be electric. Is the system perfect? no where near! BUT its not too bad. You CAN get second hand EV fairly cheap (example a Nissan Leaf £4K). Driving an EV is different and needs a different approach. Are EV's the best choice for everyone? Definitely not! Some people will need ICE cars. Most would be fine with an EV There is a lot of 'myths' about EVs and 'the battery is useless after only five years' etc are just not true any more. The strange thing is that EVs were the major vehicle originally and the petrol car was rare. Then the oil companies put the infrastructure in place and we all moved over. This is one of those subject that people are polarised on and you are unlikely to change anyone's mind. I was dead against them and my eldest daughter has had EV's for a while. Now however I have changed my mind and look forward to one. I wouldn't change just because I think it's better. I would wait until I need to change (I have to) then choose one as it will suit my needs very well and SAVE my a lot on money It is likely to drop my monthly fuel bill from around £60 to about £10 But as I said 'horses for courses'
I had a 22 kwh zoe and drove to Scotland from Manchester & Manchester to London. Car only had a a/c charger port that was hard work bought now got 50 kwh zoe with CCS charger no problem you can get a 40 kwh zoe for about £7.000 pounds will be idle for you to do your shopping
I was driving the missus' car a few days ago and I was on an A road and suffering from some real range anxiety. Would I be able to get home? Or would I or not get home? Oh! Yes... All OK... Just seen a petrol station. And 5 mins later, fully fueled up and back on the road again ;-))... Seems that the UK's being forced into getting EV's at considerable cost. But the infrastructure is just not there yet. It's akin to the early days of the Model T-Ford. Great to get from A to B fast. Not to many petrol stations about! ;-))... _But with the Model T-Ford, at least you could carry a can or two of petrol in the back of the car._ Not as though you could carry a spare 1/4 of a battery pack in the boot ;-))...
It's funny, but what you call considerable cost, I call it cheap motoring. Running low on fuel is just stupid, you can be stupid in any car. If I leave home on a full charge it will be three hours before I need fuel in my EV, I don't even want to be on the road again in five minutes.
@@mikebreen2890 If you consider that to buy an EV for £30k and upwards as _"cheap motoring",_ then good for you. Not all of us have £30k or more as spare cash.
What utter nonsene. The fuel guage in a petrol car works the same as an EV. If your fuel is running out you buy more, doesn't matter whether it is petrol, diesel or electricity. I fill up for under £4. My son inherited my Dad's petrol Skoda Fabia when he died. I filled it up last weekend and couldn't believe it cost over £50 to fill up!!! Over £50!! It's astonishing.
EVs are awesome, but do need a slight change in approach as they are different. Of course they don't suit every use case, but for the majority of people they will be a better option. Ive had mine for 13 months & 12500 miles, i won't be going back to combustion. Cost wise, I lease mine which works for me & I couldn't lease an equivalent ICE for a better price (taking into account my fuel savings of around £150 per month)
When they bring the price down to approx £1.5 k 2nd hand for a 9 or 10 year old model, when they can make a battery that has a range of about 400 miles fully laden with all electrics in use in winter, is fire safe compared to the thermal run away victims and battery packs that are easily replaceable for maybe £200 to £300 and can be charged in approx. 5- 10 mins , without costing a mortgage amount in the future for the charge, the masses may be more accepting, but presently batteries estimated to last 8-10 years, of a Cars life costing upwards of £30 k and costing from £1000's to replace, the battery, the 2 nd hand market is virtually dead, as if you know that a batteries only got possibly 1 or 2 yrs year left would you buy it for £6k or £10k plus? The fact maintenance is impractical for most diyers,charge points are not as readily available or guaranteed to be working,Then there's the possible advent of future hydrogen technology which may end up being cheaper!! So it's understandable why most people on modest to low incomes say no to EVs.
We're in a transition phase in the move over to electric cars and that transition has to occur naturally with hard to replace applications being last. I'm on my second EV and will not change it as it has a reasonable practical range of around 190 miles (20% less than the WLTP range). This means that I reach my bladder range of around 150 miles before the car needs recharging. I do need to plan my journey but that's not very difficult with the ZapMap and PlugShare Apps telling you where all the chargers are. The car has a paltry ability to recharge at only 50 kw which means I need to be on the charger for an hour which is not good - at least 100 kw is typical these days in a new car meaning only a half hour break is required. The cost of recharging is great if you have somewhere off the road to park. My Octopus electricity deal and 7 kw home charger gives me 9p per kw.hr at night and so each mile of travel costs me about 2.5p compared to 18p for a petrol car. I save about £1400 per year. The cost of maintenance is very much lower as there is none - excepting the need for new tyres and MOTs. Rarely use the brakes as regenerative braking is the normal means of reducing speed. No oil changes, oil and air filter changes. No timing belts. The only real issue is the lack of very cheap EVs which should appear over the next few years from Tesla and the Chinese - unless the government slaps import tariffs on then! Above all else, EVs are a joy to drive! Smooth and quick.
Why Why Why would you want a cheap Chinesse car, you always get what you pay for, there is no way Id buy a Chinesse car Tesla or otherwise, there has to be better options out there, what are you driving now ?.
@@rbnhd1144 Currently driving a Renault Zoe with a 52kw battery pack - great for my usage. Going out of production this year as no longer competitive. On the Chinese cars issues, your comment reminds me of what they use to say in the 1970s about Japanese cars! We live in interesting times! Time will tell. 😊
There is nothing wrong with a petrol car, I don't know what all the fuss is about,the last thing anyone wants is a potential fire hazard parked under or next to their abode.
Driving a Toyota Corrola hybrid £20 on fuel for 300+ miles no worries about looking for a charger and poncing around with apps works on ev mode in traffic /town no range anxiety very good compromise no full EV for me aged 68 toyota have got it right as far as I'm concerned
I'm with you Kevin, the best of both worlds, a reliable car that will last 20 years or more and wont depreciate like an EV does, there is no down side, so many people are blinded by latest hi tech thing, Toyota Hybrids have been on the road for 20 + years, they are proven winners and they don't tear up the roads and need special tyres, simple is smarter, plus you can trust Toyota, good man. I'm still baffled that in 2024 people want convenience yet they get something that is so inconvenient and expensive, it doesn't make logical sense.
The common denominator among those who would never consider an EV is they have no idea how they work, like you. You don't like what you don't even know or understand The infrastructure is already vastly more developed than you likely know and is coming on faster than you know. Last year I did a 1000 mile tour of the Scottish Highlands if a 170 mile range EV and it was a doddle.
My mum has a suzuki celerio, they're good cars! I agree with electric cars, there are rumours that if you start using air con, heating etc, you drastically reduce your battery charge straight away. The waiting time for charging isn't realistically a fun thing when all you want to do is get to your destination.
The power to use air con, heating and all systems in an EV comes from the battery, so its no rumour its a fact that it reduces your mileage, batteries are affected by cold weather too, you will get less miles from an EV in the cold weather.
If you use those things in an ICE vehicle you'll reduce your range too, because the laws of physics apply to everything. The reason you'll notice it more in an EV is because most of them carry the equivalent of less than 2 gallons of fuel, so any extra energy drain is more obvious.
Not at all interested in EVs, the vehicle i own is perfect and does what i want it to do go from A to B, no point in investing in a milk float when you have to keep worrying about charging the thing.
Apart from the noise, the smell, the 10,000 moving parts, the servicing, the brake dust and exhaust. Go try n EV for a week! No noise, no brake dust, no exhaust, no servicing, quick, smooth.
My car is also smooth quiet reliable comfortable and cheap to service. If your electric car is not producing brake dust you probably have wrecked it by now from not using the brakes electric cars also ate not reliable at all, the battery dare you to use the heater in the winter, battery range is pathetic depreciation is laughable, well over priced, simply not fit for purpose. Not forgetting they are overweight and create alot of tyre dust through being too heavy, but have fun in your electric car.
@@alexhoffam4170 Re-gen braking or one foot driving hence no (or little) brake dust. It's not right to say about winter heaters etc. They are all EV anxiety stories. Yes, heaters use power, but it is insignificant. My last ICE car cost £600 to service after 6 months. My Tesla... there is no service, other then washer fluid. Winter range... again exaggerated stories. The only problem with EV is people spreading rumours. At least in this conversation, I have owned both ICE and EV cars! And EV win but a clear mile.
Why you so concerned about people driving real cars rather than duracel cars, if you are happy with half a ton of lithium batteries under your seat and waiting for an hour to charge the batteries that's fine, but most of us would rather just fill the tank and drive without concerns of being stranded.
@alexhoffam4170 early 2023, I was lucky enough to travel to China. I stood near an intersection in a town called Lianyungang. EVs where everywhere, including motorbikes. The quiet was amazing, and the air so clean, real eye opening. In October, I was in Greece, a town called Thessaloniki. This was full of ICE cars. The air was thick and itchy, the noise, my lungs feeling sore. So i am concerned about ICE cars, they need to go. Then I look at social media and see so much false information about EVs... in the cold, catching fire, hours charging, people getting stuck, too heavy, replacement batteries... All these false rumours are only presented by people who don't drive EVs 🤣, or the ICE industry putting AI videos up to scare people. Open your eyes, see the future 👀😁
I've owned an EV for nearly a year now and will not go back to old style engine's that are noisy dirty un reliable and expensive to run,after 45 years of driving petrol and diesel it's time to drive something that looks after me.
Electric cars are old style,nothing new they didn't catch on the first time around ,my car is 20 years old and still runs perfectly, takes 5 minutes to fill with fuel ,let's see what a 20 year old ev is like.
I think we all need a choice and I think their should be no Government rebates on EV's in order to sell them, lets face it EV's on the whole are for money people, it its a rich mans toy. Anything should be bought and sold on its merits, a level playing field as such, I'm sure EV's will work for some people if they don't travel too far and can recharge at home on the cheap rate, I see the rates at charging stations are going up and can only anticipate that will keep happening at charging stations and eventually at home, all of these companies are in it to make a profit, that's Business, and the Govt will change the rules as we go along. I work for car dealers, I don't know a single salesman that owns one, they sell them but wont buy one, does that tell you anything? I've researched these cars and driven many so I know how they drive, I see some things I don't like, the regenerative braking bothers me T.B.H., I feel sick. Id sooner stick to petrol, even if it cost's more to refuel, I travel long distances and find a 5 minute refuel convenient, I don't need endless burgers donuts and costa coffee. I watch the price of EV's, you can buy a lot of petrol with the cost difference, I buy reliable cars and keep them long term, I have never had to replace an engine, I've looked it used affordable EV's but many of them wont go that far as the batteries are tired, it would make no sense to buy a tired EV only to get stuck replacing the battery sooner than later. Other people may have different views and that's fine, we all have different needs, I see the push to sell EV's but that PUSH alone scares me, the British Govt pushed diesels years ago and now they say that was a mistake, I just think this will end up like Brexit, a Big mess.
lol, "i don't know what they cost" Clearly done no research and has never looked anywhere properly. People just like you need to make some sacrifices, stop whining about the range and stop whining about charge times, almost all of you will complain about the charging, then sit on the sofa all evening looking on social media / youtube / reading! all the things you do whilst spending a little time charging (unless at home). Those that run out, I mean WTF, thats just lack of knowledge and applies to everything so isn't really relevant. last of all, we are poisoning the air, try putting your lips over your "cheap" ICE car and see how long you survive without some form of damage!! it's that quick, the only difference is that its flying up into the sky, only to return another day or top up what the sea and the tree's have already absorbed. Knowledge is free my friends, stop thinking in the same way, change attitudes and be prepared to have teething trouble, especially if retired! Lastly, Renault ZOE, BMW i3, NISSAM Leaf, all affordable, all cheap to run and unless you think everything should be 100% reliable I would point you to every single ICE car ever made and it needing constant parts and service parts, to date my Tesla (now 3) had £0, my BMW i3 is required to have a service but needs tyres and a cabin filter! thats it.
aLot of people don't seem to understand the concept of electric cars, alternative technology or how battery storage relates to any of it. Hence the don't like it coz they don't understand it. Human nature I suppose
My EV is fantastic. 36000 km in 3 years. Never a problem. No cost as I have free overnight renewable electricity for recharging. I never have to visit horrible smelly petrol stations and waste hours refueling. Miserable old people who are poor and uninformed will never change. They caused this problem by not acting sooner and letting 'big oil' much like 'big tobacco' lie and cheat.
Another ill-informed video. Am I an EV driver/owner, yes. Anybody who gets 'stuck' by running out of fuel in any car is just stupid. The cars warn you when 30/40 miles in the tank , and again at 15-20 miles in more strident tones, so you have to be really dumb to run out of juice. There are many thousands of places to Rapid charge, my older EV needs 20 minutes to dump a significant charge in , and the range is longer than my bladder time! There have been MORE chargers put in the last year than the previous 2, I have a dozen Rapid chargers within a couple of miles of me, 2 at my local Supermarkets and 2 at my usual lunch pubs, so charge and shop or eat. Takes less time to fill up than a petrol pump, 30s to plug 30s to unplug. Electric cars can be had from about £16-20k new for a small one - similar to petrol. Used you can get a viable small car for £7-8k with 200 miles range. IF you can charge at home fuel is 1/5 cost of petrol, public charging is about the same or slightly cheaper. Servicing is way cheaper.
*A few years ago did consider buying an EV as were stated to be the best thing since sliced bread however now so glad I opted instead to get a Mercedes late 2019 from a local main dealer - (W247) B200 CDi AMG 8 Speed [Diesel] with 81 miles on the clock (ex Demo) with all the latest tricks etc - and got a massive discount of nearly 10k from list price. This has absolutely amazed me, so so quiet, incredible range and over 35 mile journey (A6/A46) to Newark in Eco Mode [Freewheels when lifting throttle] did 93.2 mpg and took a screenshot from Mercedes Me App to prove it - hit traffic near end so dropped a bit. This car will no doubt still be running in 20 years time and still giving good sensible practical use. I don't make many journeys outside most EV's Range, but during summertime take generally a trip every week of between 150-300 miles Cotswolds, Wales or Cromer - I start to Range Anxiety when see only have 60 Miles left in tank and warning light comes on ! - If I wished to sell it (which I don't) would expect to get around £22½k not much less than I paid for it ! - Say no more*
My 84 year old father bought a 2021 Kia e-Niro about 3 weeks ago, and the following day drove nearly 400 miles to visit us in northern Scotland. I haven't seen him as enthusiastic about anything else (other than golf!) for probably 20 years, he says driving had become a chore and now it's a pleasure again. First week of June he starts a month long tour of bucket list golf courses around the UK and Ireland, something he's wanted to do for ages but couldn't be bothered with the driving until now.
p.s. The two guys on their way to a meeting seems to be one of those apocryphal stories doing the rounds. We would have to assume they weren't so stupid as to leave for an important meeting without charging the car. If they've got to Thurrock before realising they have to charge, how much further could they be going? Into London, a bit further into Essex or Kent, maybe 50 miles max? So why take an hour to charge? 10 minutes would be plenty, and it's what anyone with an EV would do; but non-EV drivers who make up these stories can't get past the ICE habit of filling the tank.
No, it's an actual factual. The charging points are Thurrock are close to the disabled parking we used.
@OldGeezersDiary I've heard the same story numerous times in slightly different settings. You're telling me those two guys still had 200+ miles to go to their meeting?
@@garysmith5025 I don't bother to tell porkies. I find that the simple truth is sufficient for me. I don't have any background to their situation, other than they were simply standing by the car and I asked.
@@OldGeezersDiary I reckon they were winding you up.
I’ve owned a Tesla Y for over two years and 50k kilometres. I live in Canada and am as old as you are. I love it and would never go back to petrol. When cars first came on the market there were people who didn’t want to give up their horse and buggy
If you can charge them at home and don't regularly travel over 600km in a day they are great. wouldn't go back without a good reason. EVs have a fuel gauge as well.
First of all "respect" :-) I have been driving an EV for three years now (a Tesla) and i absolutely love it. I just ordered a second one. I drove this year from the UK to Greece in my Tesla and had no problems. The entire journey cost me £137 in charging. This was often using hotel free chargers. What i love about my EV... so quick and effortless to drive, so fast, so quiet, cheap, no emissions, no break dust, no servicing, no road tax, self driving on the motorways (Tesla). All the nightmare stories about EV are simply not true. My Tesla plans the entire route including charging stops and it is very accurate. Charging is about 25 mins per 3.5 hours of driving. By the time you have walk to the motorway services building, had a pee, bought a coffee and walked back to the car, your battery is charged and ready. How people can run out of power is beyond me 🧐, there are chargers "everywhere". Even Albania and Bulgaria have good EV charging. Also remember the EVs are in their infancy. In 10 - 20 years there will be driving 2000 miles on a charge (may be).
I used to have a similar view point as yourself. Now I am the opposite. In fact our next car (hopefully arriving in Sept) will be electric. Is the system perfect? no where near! BUT its not too bad. You CAN get second hand EV fairly cheap (example a Nissan Leaf £4K). Driving an EV is different and needs a different approach. Are EV's the best choice for everyone? Definitely not! Some people will need ICE cars. Most would be fine with an EV There is a lot of 'myths' about EVs and 'the battery is useless after only five years' etc are just not true any more.
The strange thing is that EVs were the major vehicle originally and the petrol car was rare. Then the oil companies put the infrastructure in place and we all moved over.
This is one of those subject that people are polarised on and you are unlikely to change anyone's mind. I was dead against them and my eldest daughter has had EV's for a while. Now however I have changed my mind and look forward to one.
I wouldn't change just because I think it's better. I would wait until I need to change (I have to) then choose one as it will suit my needs very well and SAVE my a lot on money It is likely to drop my monthly fuel bill from around £60 to about £10
But as I said 'horses for courses'
I would agree, but a 200 mile used Zoe at £6-7k is way more viable.
No, nope, never
I had a 22 kwh zoe and drove to Scotland from Manchester & Manchester to London. Car only had a a/c charger port that was hard work bought now got 50 kwh zoe with CCS charger no problem you can get a 40 kwh zoe for about £7.000 pounds will be idle for you to do your shopping
im sticking with my suzuki ignis..
I was driving the missus' car a few days ago and I was on an A road and suffering from some real range anxiety.
Would I be able to get home? Or would I or not get home?
Oh! Yes... All OK... Just seen a petrol station. And 5 mins later, fully fueled up and back on the road again ;-))...
Seems that the UK's being forced into getting EV's at considerable cost. But the infrastructure is just not there yet. It's akin to the early days of the Model T-Ford. Great to get from A to B fast. Not to many petrol stations about! ;-))...
_But with the Model T-Ford, at least you could carry a can or two of petrol in the back of the car._ Not as though you could carry a spare 1/4 of a battery pack in the boot ;-))...
It's funny, but what you call considerable cost, I call it cheap motoring.
Running low on fuel is just stupid, you can be stupid in any car. If I leave home on a full charge it will be three hours before I need fuel in my EV, I don't even want to be on the road again in five minutes.
@@mikebreen2890 If you consider that to buy an EV for £30k and upwards as _"cheap motoring",_ then good for you. Not all of us have £30k or more as spare cash.
What utter nonsene. The fuel guage in a petrol car works the same as an EV. If your fuel is running out you buy more, doesn't matter whether it is petrol, diesel or electricity.
I fill up for under £4. My son inherited my Dad's petrol Skoda Fabia when he died. I filled it up last weekend and couldn't believe it cost over £50 to fill up!!! Over £50!! It's astonishing.
I kind of agree. EVs are very good at predicting range and there are no shortage of chargers. No excuse for running out of power.
EVs are awesome, but do need a slight change in approach as they are different. Of course they don't suit every use case, but for the majority of people they will be a better option.
Ive had mine for 13 months & 12500 miles, i won't be going back to combustion.
Cost wise, I lease mine which works for me & I couldn't lease an equivalent ICE for a better price (taking into account my fuel savings of around £150 per month)
When they bring the price down to approx £1.5 k 2nd hand for a 9 or 10 year old model, when they can make a battery that has a range of about 400 miles fully laden with all electrics in use in winter, is fire safe compared to the thermal run away victims and battery packs that are easily replaceable for maybe £200 to £300 and can be charged in approx. 5- 10 mins , without costing a mortgage amount in the future for the charge, the masses may be more accepting, but presently batteries estimated to last 8-10 years, of a Cars life costing upwards of £30 k and costing from £1000's to replace, the battery, the 2 nd hand market is virtually dead, as if you know that a batteries only got possibly 1 or 2 yrs year left would you buy it for £6k or £10k plus? The fact maintenance is impractical for most diyers,charge points are not as readily available or guaranteed to be working,Then there's the possible advent of future hydrogen technology which may end up being cheaper!! So it's understandable why most people on modest to low incomes say no to EVs.
Just about every claim you made in that drivel is wrong. You do realise that hydrogen cars are EVs do you?
We're in a transition phase in the move over to electric cars and that transition has to occur naturally with hard to replace applications being last.
I'm on my second EV and will not change it as it has a reasonable practical range of around 190 miles (20% less than the WLTP range). This means that I reach my bladder range of around 150 miles before the car needs recharging. I do need to plan my journey but that's not very difficult with the ZapMap and PlugShare Apps telling you where all the chargers are. The car has a paltry ability to recharge at only 50 kw which means I need to be on the charger for an hour which is not good - at least 100 kw is typical these days in a new car meaning only a half hour break is required.
The cost of recharging is great if you have somewhere off the road to park. My Octopus electricity deal and 7 kw home charger gives me 9p per kw.hr at night and so each mile of travel costs me about 2.5p compared to 18p for a petrol car. I save about £1400 per year.
The cost of maintenance is very much lower as there is none - excepting the need for new tyres and MOTs. Rarely use the brakes as regenerative braking is the normal means of reducing speed. No oil changes, oil and air filter changes. No timing belts.
The only real issue is the lack of very cheap EVs which should appear over the next few years from Tesla and the Chinese - unless the government slaps import tariffs on then!
Above all else, EVs are a joy to drive! Smooth and quick.
Why Why Why would you want a cheap Chinesse car, you always get what you pay for, there is no way Id buy a Chinesse car Tesla or otherwise, there has to be better options out there, what are you driving now ?.
@@rbnhd1144
Currently driving a Renault Zoe with a 52kw battery pack - great for my usage. Going out of production this year as no longer competitive.
On the Chinese cars issues, your comment reminds me of what they use to say in the 1970s about Japanese cars! We live in interesting times! Time will tell. 😊
There is nothing wrong with a petrol car, I don't know what all the fuss is about,the last thing anyone wants is a potential fire hazard parked under or next to their abode.
Petrol cars are 20 times more likely to catch fire than an ev and yet people happily park them next to their homes. Petrol is highly flammable.
Driving a Toyota Corrola hybrid £20 on fuel for 300+ miles no worries about looking for a charger and poncing around with apps works on ev mode in traffic /town no range anxiety very good compromise no full EV for me aged 68 toyota have got it right as far as I'm concerned
I'm with you Kevin, the best of both worlds, a reliable car that will last 20 years or more and wont depreciate like an EV does, there is no down side, so many people are blinded by latest hi tech thing, Toyota Hybrids have been on the road for 20 + years, they are proven winners and they don't tear up the roads and need special tyres, simple is smarter, plus you can trust Toyota, good man.
I'm still baffled that in 2024 people want convenience yet they get something that is so inconvenient and expensive, it doesn't make logical sense.
The common denominator among those who would never consider an EV is they have no idea how they work, like you. You don't like what you don't even know or understand The infrastructure is already vastly more developed than you likely know and is coming on faster than you know. Last year I did a 1000 mile tour of the Scottish Highlands if a 170 mile range EV and it was a doddle.
My mum has a suzuki celerio, they're good cars!
I agree with electric cars, there are rumours that if you start using air con, heating etc, you drastically reduce your battery charge straight away. The waiting time for charging isn't realistically a fun thing when all you want to do is get to your destination.
The power to use air con, heating and all systems in an EV comes from the battery, so its no rumour its a fact that it reduces your mileage, batteries are affected by cold weather too, you will get less miles from an EV in the cold weather.
If you use those things in an ICE vehicle you'll reduce your range too, because the laws of physics apply to everything. The reason you'll notice it more in an EV is because most of them carry the equivalent of less than 2 gallons of fuel, so any extra energy drain is more obvious.
Electric is awesome!
Never going back
Not at all interested in EVs, the vehicle i own is perfect and does what i want it to do go from A to B, no point in investing in a milk float when you have to keep worrying about charging the thing.
Apart from the noise, the smell, the 10,000 moving parts, the servicing, the brake dust and exhaust. Go try n EV for a week! No noise, no brake dust, no exhaust, no servicing, quick, smooth.
My car is also smooth quiet reliable comfortable and cheap to service.
If your electric car is not producing brake dust you probably have wrecked it by now from not using the brakes electric cars also ate not reliable at all, the battery dare you to use the heater in the winter, battery range is pathetic depreciation is laughable, well over priced, simply not fit for purpose. Not forgetting they are overweight and create alot of tyre dust through being too heavy, but have fun in your electric car.
@@alexhoffam4170 Re-gen braking or one foot driving hence no (or little) brake dust. It's not right to say about winter heaters etc. They are all EV anxiety stories. Yes, heaters use power, but it is insignificant. My last ICE car cost £600 to service after 6 months. My Tesla... there is no service, other then washer fluid. Winter range... again exaggerated stories. The only problem with EV is people spreading rumours. At least in this conversation, I have owned both ICE and EV cars! And EV win but a clear mile.
Why you so concerned about people driving real cars rather than duracel cars, if you are happy with half a ton of lithium batteries under your seat and waiting for an hour to charge the batteries that's fine, but most of us would rather just fill the tank and drive without concerns of being stranded.
@alexhoffam4170 early 2023, I was lucky enough to travel to China. I stood near an intersection in a town called Lianyungang. EVs where everywhere, including motorbikes. The quiet was amazing, and the air so clean, real eye opening. In October, I was in Greece, a town called Thessaloniki. This was full of ICE cars. The air was thick and itchy, the noise, my lungs feeling sore.
So i am concerned about ICE cars, they need to go.
Then I look at social media and see so much false information about EVs... in the cold, catching fire, hours charging, people getting stuck, too heavy, replacement batteries...
All these false rumours are only presented by people who don't drive EVs 🤣, or the ICE industry putting AI videos up to scare people. Open your eyes, see the future 👀😁
I've owned an EV for nearly a year now and will not go back to old style engine's that are noisy dirty un reliable and expensive to run,after 45 years of driving petrol and diesel it's time to drive something that looks after me.
Electric cars are old style,nothing new they didn't catch on the first time around ,my car is 20 years old and still runs perfectly, takes 5 minutes to fill with fuel ,let's see what a 20 year old ev is like.
@@bigfist255 how many miles though.
Regardless of the miles ,yes it's a low milage saab but seen others still on the road with 300k on them ,.mine will last a other 20 years.
I think we all need a choice and I think their should be no Government rebates on EV's in order to sell them, lets face it EV's on the whole are for money people, it its a rich mans toy.
Anything should be bought and sold on its merits, a level playing field as such, I'm sure EV's will work for some people if they don't travel too far and can recharge at home on the cheap rate, I see the rates at charging stations are going up and can only anticipate that will keep happening at charging stations and eventually at home, all of these companies are in it to make a profit, that's Business, and the Govt will change the rules as we go along.
I work for car dealers, I don't know a single salesman that owns one, they sell them but wont buy one, does that tell you anything?
I've researched these cars and driven many so I know how they drive, I see some things I don't like, the regenerative braking bothers me T.B.H., I feel sick.
Id sooner stick to petrol, even if it cost's more to refuel, I travel long distances and find a 5 minute refuel convenient, I don't need endless burgers donuts and costa coffee.
I watch the price of EV's, you can buy a lot of petrol with the cost difference, I buy reliable cars and keep them long term, I have never had to replace an engine, I've looked it used affordable EV's but many of them wont go that far as the batteries are tired, it would make no sense to buy a tired EV only to get stuck replacing the battery sooner than later.
Other people may have different views and that's fine, we all have different needs, I see the push to sell EV's but that PUSH alone scares me, the British Govt pushed diesels years ago and now they say that was a mistake, I just think this will end up like Brexit, a Big mess.
lol, "i don't know what they cost" Clearly done no research and has never looked anywhere properly. People just like you need to make some sacrifices, stop whining about the range and stop whining about charge times, almost all of you will complain about the charging, then sit on the sofa all evening looking on social media / youtube / reading! all the things you do whilst spending a little time charging (unless at home).
Those that run out, I mean WTF, thats just lack of knowledge and applies to everything so isn't really relevant.
last of all, we are poisoning the air, try putting your lips over your "cheap" ICE car and see how long you survive without some form of damage!! it's that quick, the only difference is that its flying up into the sky, only to return another day or top up what the sea and the tree's have already absorbed.
Knowledge is free my friends, stop thinking in the same way, change attitudes and be prepared to have teething trouble, especially if retired!
Lastly, Renault ZOE, BMW i3, NISSAM Leaf, all affordable, all cheap to run and unless you think everything should be 100% reliable I would point you to every single ICE car ever made and it needing constant parts and service parts, to date my Tesla (now 3) had £0, my BMW i3 is required to have a service but needs tyres and a cabin filter! thats it.
aLot of people don't seem to understand the concept of electric cars, alternative technology or how battery storage relates to any of it. Hence the don't like it coz they don't understand it. Human nature I suppose
My EV is fantastic. 36000 km in 3 years. Never a problem. No cost as I have free overnight renewable electricity for recharging. I never have to visit horrible smelly petrol stations and waste hours refueling. Miserable old people who are poor and uninformed will never change. They caused this problem by not acting sooner and letting 'big oil' much like 'big tobacco' lie and cheat.
Another ill-informed video.
Am I an EV driver/owner, yes.
Anybody who gets 'stuck' by running out of fuel in any car is just stupid. The cars warn you when 30/40 miles in the tank , and again at 15-20 miles in more strident tones, so you have to be really dumb to run out of juice. There are many thousands of places to Rapid charge, my older EV needs 20 minutes to dump a significant charge in , and the range is longer than my bladder time!
There have been MORE chargers put in the last year than the previous 2, I have a dozen Rapid chargers within a couple of miles of me, 2 at my local Supermarkets and 2 at my usual lunch pubs, so charge and shop or eat. Takes less time to fill up than a petrol pump, 30s to plug 30s to unplug.
Electric cars can be had from about £16-20k new for a small one - similar to petrol. Used you can get a viable small car for £7-8k with 200 miles range.
IF you can charge at home fuel is 1/5 cost of petrol, public charging is about the same or slightly cheaper. Servicing is way cheaper.