BMW's X3M Competition | German's TrackHawk Killer - Two Takes
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As Zack and Matt work their way through all the fast crossovers on the market, BMW's X3M Competition stands out. It has a preview of what the new M3 engine will be: 503 HP of twin-turbo 3.0L inline six fury. It's got the gearbox and AWD system from the M5, though disappointingly without RWD mode. It will do 0-60 in 3.3 seconds using launch control, and blast through the quarter mile in the low 11's (and we hear, with a tune, in the 10's.) And it's a quiet, comfortable, spacious, and luxurious, practical daily driver.
BMW of North America provided the vehicle, insurance, and a tank of fuel for this review. - Auta a dopravní prostředky
5:02 They're using the *Guntherwerks 400R* as a camera car!!
I dont know whats more gangster than that! lmao
Yeah I came to see who noticed. That's sick lol
One of the coolest camera cars I've ever seen
The "double take" with both of you is very fun. Watched front to back!
Agreed. Cool dynamic when they can bounce ideas off each other.
Why they didn't call it this, I don't know... Literally came to say they should have called it "Double Take" rather than Two Takes
@@chickenmusket12 Double would make sense if the other series were "Single Take" . But I get you.
400 lbs extra weight!
:)
"Despite what all Castles say..." is a really, REALLY good line!
Cracked me up for sure 😂
secret castle technology has been exposed
BMW better pay me for that marketing term.
I don’t get, explain?
As an F90 M5 owner, it's not complicated to launch or go into sport mode. I set M1 for burnouts and M2 for launches. For future references, the gear shifter needs to be in manual mode for launches but it will auto upshift. The checkered flag will pop up when launch in enabled.
the gear shifter needs to be in manual mode but it really isn't in manual mode and it will automatically shift for you - you're right, it's not complicated, it's just stupid
F90 owner as well... yes to all that @Earlando Johnson
Martin Petrov smart enough to save you from yourself
@@Marty1568 It's not really manual mode rather sport mode. If move the gearshifter to the left first you go to "S" for Sport Mode of your gearbox. In this mode it will still shift for you. If you then start to use the paddles it will enter Manual Mode (you shoud see an "M" in the gear indicator)
@@Marty1568 It’s not exactly manual mode, when the shifter is moved to the left while in drive the transmission gets sportier, if you move the shifter up/down then you can shift gears manually
I'm really digging these co-piloted One Takes! I like the back and forth between Matt and Zack
I have been driving my wifes X3M-C for about a year now and all of the complaining I hear about the suspension makes me want to say somebody needs to get in shape. Babies babies babies stop crying, I mean if you want a soft ride, get a Toyota Camry.
Fully forged internals from factory? No wonder that tuners are already pushing over 800hp and 1000nm of torque out of the S58 engine with bolt-ons. New M3/M4's going to be mental with that engine.
SergeantMoetz papadakis racing got 1000bhp out of the new supra with that engine on stock internals RELIABLY
@@kyleb5518 "RELIABLY" - bc He already made 100 000km in the last 5 years?
Kyle B they were not using stock internals to make that power.
Bmw baby. Everyone ranks on em but don’t know. Even old engines like m42 have forged pistons and rods if I’m not mistaken
The problem with this engine is that the connecting rods are not forged and they come from the f90 M5 and they are not all that strong... so to me the isn’t forged connecting rods are a weak point in an engine like this...
I love you and Zack riffing together. THANKS for delivering exciting content for the last decade boys!
Matt just by the cute sponsor at *your side on the beginning of the video that was a automatic thumbs up...
We bought some of those bones after seeing Matt’s ad. They’re legit.
I am genuinely shocked by the amount of people who don't know the difference between you're and your.....
@@G-..- me native language not engrish...
mistakes made i do
The problem with this engine is that the connecting rods are not forged and they come from the f90 M5 and they are not all that strong... so to me the isn’t forged connecting rods are a weak point in an engine like this...
I actually own an X3M and you are completely right about the suspension. They overdid it for the street. I just recently installed MSS height adjustable springs and it completely transformed how it rides. Sport plus is much more doable around town now. Thanks for a great review!
good to know! What's MSS stand for?
@@TheSmokingTire mss.company
@@TheSmokingTire Modular Suspension Systems. It's an aftermarket suspension company out of the UK, very similar design to the KW height adjustable springs. I also left a comment on how to launch it. Kinda tricky but it applies to most newer BMW M models
Defo brock I went down the mss route too. Check out the evolve video on CZcams look for mss x3m.
TheSmokingTire here’s the link to my install dude. czcams.com/video/KKILRps04M4/video.html
It makes no sense.
That is exactly why I love this X3M
3:39 Casual 720S going in the other direction
i noticed that as well lol
That sweet in-line 6 sound is back in a M car folks
It's going to be interesting to see the Supra get this engine in 2023.
That was so weird to read
@@brianoliveros2174 :D :D :D
It'll be the GR Supra Paul Walker edition
That'll be a special car. I don't care how much bmw or Toyota fanbois hate it.
2023 model year is my guess as well. I’m sure BMW and Toyota have an agreement in place to get the S58 in a future top trim Supra.
On my third. LCI fixed it all and dialed it to 11. Favorite daily keeping forever. Best mod was rims and tires. 265/295 on Vossens, car runs 👌👌
Doesn’t make sense to even get the competition or just go with the base?
Depends what your intention is. I’ve only had comps due to the top flight proper M seats, merino leather, 21 Mich PS4s, power, exhaust. I’d say off the lot not even a question. But if it’s a project and you are going to gut it or substantially change it, then the values are up to you. But the cost on the comp tires/rims alone and seats which you will want, is enough by themselves. Exhaust is def better, the LCI is the first one I haven’t modded at all. Didn’t need to but I still have BM3 for exhaust tuning. I haven’t owned the straight M version, but the seats by themselves were enough for me. They are just that much better and you absolutely will need the bolstering to handle it proper. Best of luck, one of my favorite vehicles. The one thing that does suck are the comp spider style rims. Although beautiful, they are very difficult to clean, always dirty, and too narrow, esp in back only running on 265. The 265/295 setup (some people have put that size rubber on the stock rim- I’ve seen it in person and it doesn’t look right. I went 10 up front, 12 rear and after a year imo it should be stock or at least an option for this setup) that’s my only gripe. I cannot tell you the difference in ride quality, handling and stability at speed or launch is 👌
@@michaelmesolellaesq thank you!
Long time fan here, just to say that I'm loving the Two Takes videos! Keep 'em coming!
Looks like a great option. 500HP in a small SUV with M badge is a recipe for fun. Probably 70-80K when optioned out. Still looks like a blast either way.
These “two takes” are the best! Please continue!
I drove one of these last year in X4 form and was absolutely blown away by the performance as well... scary how much this thing feels like a sports sedan.
Love the two takes
That Castle comment was perfect. I also like the both of you in the vids. Creates a good back and forth dynamic. Thank you for the content as always
Yeah, for once Matt had extra inches all around him. Something to consider for large people.
The double take format is great keep it up.
Love the guntherwerks chase car!
Interesting that is what it took to keep up.
Hopefully you guys can keep doing these co-piloted videos! I like the cross banter between the two of you.
I really enjoy getting both of your perspectives in the one take format. Awesome video this actually made me care about an SUV.
Yup, now waiting for one to depreciate and get as a daily.
You all work together well and together you nail it every time.
At the BMW dealer I work at, I've done at least 3 PDI's on X3M comp. I drove all three but they weren't broken in yet so I couldn' t test them full clip. But the visability is great, and yes its very stiff in comfort mode. One was purchased and a few months later it came back to my dealer with 3k on the clock. I drove it again. These are very quick cars. I would might would opt for the M340i version but for some reason I dont fancy the shift patterns on the M340i X3.....some softer springs and the X3 comp. would be the perfect everyday car. Its stiff but I know somebody will fix this so Im looking to get one of these in the future. White and the Goldish color are the best options for paint IMO.
As for launch control, you need to be in sport plus everything, RWD bias mode, TC off AND set the transmission to S3 which is manual shifting and the up buttons on the top of the shifter. Hold the brake, smash the gas, WAIT TO SEE THE FLAG POP UP ON THE DASH! This is how you know it is active. Once you see the flag launch control is engage and the car will shift for you. I know, it's confusing, the car will be in manual mode but it will shift for you. Hopefully this helps! It's how most of the newer BMW's work
I got it later, there wasn't much feel in the difference of the launch though! Still just brake torquing.
@@TheSmokingTire You really have to be above 3k RPM to really feel the power with these cars. However, I got mine to run consecutive 3.77 sec 0-60 completely stock via Dragy with no slope. Can't complain with that!
Matt awesome review as always. I have this vehicle and LOVE it. I actually like the “rough” ride. I had 2 M3’s coupes with the v’8s around 8 years and this is faster and more fun to drive in my opinion. When you have the revs in second gear in manual mode I will take a rolling start all day. Its really a rocket. and everything seems to work together well.
Way better with the 2 of you together! Keep up the great work!
I'm an owner of a Jeep Gc as well as former owner of a Hellcat and also a BMW. My take is the X3 will be faster in most driving situations than the Trackhawk especially because the larger size, footprint and will slow you down in the corners. I do prefer a Supercharger over turbo but that is a portion of the gap in fuel efficiency. The only real advantage of the Trackhawk is if you need the size of it.
Matt & Zack having a dialogue really makes these videos a lot more interesting and engaging. You should do this more often!
Great review!! Love the podcast as well. You guys kick ass. Thanks for all the amazing content.
Saw one of these things fly by me on the NJ turnpike the other day and could not believe an X3 could ever move that fast
7:43 Better words have never been said. Thank you for that
I like the two of you to keep doing reviews. Who else is with me!
I love how everybody wants to bring
Up the Trackhawk for comparison 😌
The best car ever! Love my X3 M40i, can't wait to get the X3M Competition.
Love the shot with the Guntherwerks flying in one lane as the X3M is flying in the other
Love the efficiency of the double drive by footage at 10:25 too.
I'd have to see the x3m comp drag race a trackhawk before i can believe it can compete with that 707hp geep.
Can't wait to see the S58 with downpipe and custom tuned on full E-85. The new m3/4 are gonna be fast as hell.
Great video! You can tell you guys had a blast.
What a cute little dog at intro of the video!😍
Thing was nasty looking
They're just teasing you with the tire sizes. Can't rotate them, but the extra 10mm on the rear is next to negligible. Wonder how many people will go with a square setup for their second set of tires
The 2022 M3 is gonna be insane
It'll come out this fall.
If by insane you mean ugly as hell with the new grill :-(
Achievement Tracker i hope I get used to it soon when I start seeing them in person
Fantastic film guys, the best I've seen, loved your style, what a beautiful piece of road to test it out. Fantastic guys, I've ordered one, it's coming in June, bmw Grey with orange interior few extras, really looking forward to getting it, but even more after watching your film. thanks, guys. amazing bit of safe fast driving
Loving these reviews with both of you.
Video title says as quick as a TrackHawk, but seems like the stars need to align to be able to do that. In my TH all I need to do is mash the pedal, no drama. So out on the street stock vs stock the TH is still quicker IMO.
still gotta try out my launch mode on my JCW CTM :) yea, those X3M Competitions are BEASTS!!!! great vid!
"If you make it adjustable, they will adjust it wrong." - Colin Chapman. ;)
I can’t wait to upgrade from my F15 X5 am sport to this!
To get it in launch control, every setting has to be in the sportiest setting, dtc has to be off but dsc can be left on, and the car has to be in manual mode(meaning the shifter has to be pushed to the side to make it go from d to m), and set it up like a launch
The problem with this engine is that the connecting rods are not forged and they come from the f90 M5 and they are not all that strong... so to me the isn’t forged connecting rods are a weak point in an engine like this...
Keep up the Two Takes!
Finally another crossover takes the fight to the Macan!
Why does a 505 hp engine need fake exhaust sound pumped into the cabin?
sanju2 plenty of garbage V-8s as well.
This new format is great
Try the X3 M, ride quality even with 21’s wheels, is much better than on the comp version. Great content, thank you.
had mine 6 months and love it , i was worried about the hard suspension but after coming from a M2 its fine . Mss now offer an urban setup if you do need it softer .
Chris Sarjeant what are the differences suspension wise between X3M and Comp version?
Love the two takes, should do some one bikes😏
I love the 964 sitting in the back
Thanks for the honest review, the title is very clear about what I spoke about one month when you did the review of the Maserati levante trofeo. In your opinion you reckon it's faster than the Maserati? Keep up the good work, nice one👌
This and the X5 Comp is stupid fast! I want one for my Dad SUV. Currently have a MDX Hybrid
Question for @thesmokingtire do you rather a x3 M or Macan gts / turbo
Cant wait to get next slap BM3 tune stage 1 🚀
This video is awesome. I test drove one of these at my local BMW dealership back before the virus came around and I remember thinking it felt just as fast as the Trackhawk I’ve been in before.
Volcano Red 720S zipping by at 3:39 🔥
How would you say the performance and drive compare to a Stelvio Quadrifoglio?
Kinda sad they didn't touch on that as well:-/
Double Take is whats up boys. I'll take some solo vids from the both of you as well!
This has to be one of the fastest videos you've done haha holy crap
Hey Matt and Zack -- would you take this or the 2020 Porsche Macan Turbo?
Is that your Shih Tzu Matt? Great video as per usual!
Stiff suspension is also what makes the M5 Competition a little unbearable as well. However most people who swap to a different setup from Dinan or similar say it makes a huge difference
I'm sure this will be awesome to drive/own right up until it breaks way before it should.
I don't get how people are breaking their cars so much, must be a maintenance issue ie they treat their cars like shit then expect it to stay in one piece.
Uses a Carbon 911 as a camera car....love these guys
You guys have to get in a Stelvio Quadrifoglio. It much better dynamically than both the Macan Turbo and the X3M and faster. It’s kinda like how the Levante trofeo is to the Cayenne Turbo and X5M: a much lighter car in the same class. But whereas the Levante is less powerful and not as fast, the stelvio is a better performer than its competitors. The Stelvio also shares no Chrysler parts and is all Italian unlike the Maserati.
That dog is adorable!!!!
This engine and Drivetrain into the next gen G8x is going to be Bonkers!
The question for me is, X3 M40i VS X3 M, as the second or third owner. Is the X3 M worth the extra money? The M40i is a whole lot of not a car but really a car as far as machines go, as long as you don't worry about playing the numbers game. Right now used a good X3 M is going for like high 60s low 70s, a good M40i is seeing high 30s low to mid 40s.
Whether it’s worth the extra money or not is up to you. X3 M40i is pretty damn quick and with some simple mods you can be making 500hp for under $2000. That being said you could do the same thing on the x3m and be getting 650-700hp.
You need to review the stelvio quadrifolgio
I am really considering getting a cpo x3m competition as a daily.
That lag you felt pulling out of corners isn’t turbo lag. It’s throttle lag. BMW’s have been infested with this issue for a decade now. I owned an F10 535 with lag so bad I nearly got hit several times making a left in traffic where the car started to roll and moved about 20’ before the engine decided to wake up. Meanwhile, your giving it more and more throttle and finally the engine gets the call and your shot through the turn with WAY too much speed. It’s downright unsafe.
That and the too harsh ride made me pass on an F80 M3, and now I’m passing on this replacing my Cayenne. I had such high hopes for the X3M. It’s just SO stiff.
Mat seems to be hitting the gym recently!
Does anyone know if it’s comfortable without the competition package?
I have one of these, they are total sleepers (if you don't know what you are looking at). Super fun to smash on sports cars in an SUV lol
Oh I like Matt's glasses!
So do you still like Macan better?
My favorite crossover is the F Pace
Is that the green guntherwerks 400r used as a media vehicle? 🔥
Makes me wonder how perfect it would be with a 19 or 20 inch wheel would be. Get a little sidewall.
Actually the opening comments about it having "castle technology" is surprisingly on-point: I've read a psychological study that discussed how the feeling of being fortified and safe in a changing world is a major driver behind the increased popularity of Trucks/SUVs/CUVs (remember SAVs??) over cars.
PS: And of course, this is the Competition version of the Castle >< I don't hate it, though it's a shame it's so stiff. This thing has premium fast Q-ship daily driver written all over it otherwise.
So my friend works at a large BMW dealer and he says the X3 M40i is selling like hotcakes, the X3 M Competition is selling like hotcakes, and NOBODY is buying the regular X3 M; they are just sitting on the lots. Sadly my friend agrees that both X3 Ms, comp or not, are far too stiff and the suspension of choice is under the M40i, but advice to anyone who wants one of these and is looking for a deal: look for non-Comps!
Mat couldn't even talk at the end because he was puckering when the other guy was driving, lol.
Supposedly a lot of people are crashing these things. Physics.
Are we going to sit here and act like we ain’t notice that 720s @3:40
What were the tires and pressure?
Love you videos!
Does the x3m competition really do 0-60 in 3.3? I’ve seen it break 4, but everywhere I look I see different claims. 3.3 seems very quick
I really don't understand when people say too much adjustability..... It's good to have those options so you can set it up exactly how you like it and then use the 2 M buttons. That's easy... Ask the Giulia QV guys how annoying it is to not have the adjustability. Best mode in that car is the race mode but then it turns all the nannies off??? couldn't change the exhaust valves independently.... It sucked not having the adjustability. I really think you guys overrate the whole "too much adjustability" thing. To most people its a very good thing to have.
Was that the Guntherworks 911 at 10:27 mins?
yes we filmed at same time.
This X5M should have a launch button. After the launch is complete, turn launch button off and previos preset setup is resumed.
*X3M