The Secret Behind His Resemblance to Goku
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- čas přidán 29. 08. 2023
- In this video, we're exploring the complex backstory of Turles, one of the strongest villains in the Dragon Ball series.
Discover why Turles looks so similar to Goku, and find out why his goal is so dangerous. Get to know Turles' backstory and see how it connects to some of the most iconic moments in the Dragon Ball series. If you're curious about the Dragon Ball universe, then this video is for you!
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Imagine if broly saw turles before he saw Goku , turles would be so confused about the non deserved ass whooping he will receive 😂
Lmao bro would get violated for no reason 😭😭😭
No it's seems like Broly recognizes Kakarot more by is Character than Face or at least that is what happens in The second Broly Movie and XenoVerse 2,That doesn't mean that Broly wouldn't beat his ass though.
@@ferrucciocaracciuolo8139meanwhile goten
In the Tenkaichi games if you match the two up Broly mistakes him for goku
Actually broly will hurt him even if he wasn't KAKAROT besides he sees he has four hairs at the back of his hair instead of three BIG DIFFERENCE
According to Toei Animation, Turles was designed to look like Goku to represent how Goku would be if he had never gone to Earth and had been an "evil" Saiyan. Turles states that all low-level Saiyans, like Goku and himself, look very similar with similar facial features and such.
I discuss that in the video but I don’t remember Toei animation actually stating that. Could you kindly provide that source? I’m not calling you out I genuinely would like to know because I never saw that during my research.
thanks for saying what the video just told us.
its just the low class sayian hair style
you know that low class saiyajin thing is a tired trop right?? clearly Goku is a gifted warrior who can achieve heights no other Saiyajin has achieved so he's NOT some low class warrior or any of them could make the jump and transform.... ofc i'm going by old lore not this shtty new timeline...
@@supamilkplays3706 Saiyan class determines by the power level at birth and also by genetic.
It doesn't factor in like efforts, environment, techniques and more.
However, the genetic of Siayan would increase if they become stronger and thus theirs offspring would also become stronger as well.
Considering Goku's father has potential to surpass King Vegeta and given more times he would be, that means Goku's "low birth" factor didn't factor in potential as well.
I actually thought that Turles changed his hair cut to Bardock's hair cut because he was inspired by Bardock a low class warrior who get promoted and doing elite missions and he died trying to stop Frieza and defending the planet.
...that's from a fanfic
I just assumed Bardock was Cheating on his GF , is pretty much the easiest explanation for Turles
Bro thinks masako's what-ifs are movie canon
@@user-qh4ox1su4d
Wow I didn't know movies were Canon.
Well some of them are to GT timeline.
@@blackice7050 *Movie canon.*
Instead of was Super did with Goku black, I think they should have re-did Turles but as a version of Goku that never bumped his head from another dimension
Honestly they can _still_ do that.
Why should they have re done a villain and a concept that’s already been done? We’ve seen what happened if Goku didn’t bump his head
super had so many missed opportunities. They can just include GT universe to Tournament of power to make it canon lol
I always thought that Turles was just Bardocks oldest secret son that he had with some random saiyan before getting with Gine
Really? I thought that Turles was Bardock's twin brother.
Remember that in Dragonball minus is establish that saiyan population was very small because of his battle tendencies so it may be the case that low warriors share many phisical similarities because of consaguinity
That's fan crap
Sweet Home Planet Vegeta~
@@KarZak66 dragon ball minus is not "fan crap", i'll tell you that much
@@liamsemicolon don't argue,it is..
@@KarZak66 it's literally written by toriyama
Turles just being a doppelganger (actual phenomenon) makes more sense than "Saiyans of the same class all look near identical" because the latter is actively contradicted by Raditz, a low class saiyan who is blood related to Kakarot, looking different from him. That and Bardock's crew all looked different from each other. As amusing as Turles being Kakarot's evil twin would be.
It just states "we come into few types", not that they are all nearly identical.
Agreed better as his doppelganger or brother or uncle -bardoks twin
Honestly always thought turtles was his cousin idk why or where I heard that he was but that’s what I thought
If you played the tenkaichi games bardock knows turles so he's either as old as bardock or gokus age
Radditz is taller Vegeta
I thought Turles was goku brother because he has the same hair of goku or maybe he is bardock’s brother
I thought he was goku brother too
if he was Bardock's brother. welp Goku killed his uncle. not that saiyan society really cares about that stuff.
It was cool that turles got a bigger spotlight in Xenoverse 2 and even if not canon (what is to akira these days) getting more insight into him was neat. The idea of a saiyan turned pirate wanting to overthrow Frieza is definitely intriguing
If you actually try to fit the movie into the timeline, it would happen after the defeat of Frieza and before Garlic Jr. returns from the Dead Zone.
The Tree Of Might is still my favorite DBZ film of all time & I have no clue why. I just remember watching it on Toonami countless times. Not to mention the movie is the shoes intro pretty much 😊
Can't say I've watched it a lot but it's one of my favorites as well. I love how goofy the concept is
Turles should have had a second movie with him having ssj
Bro that would be absolute fire. Imagine if he actually went to another planet and started roid raging on tree of might fruits until he unlocks super saiyan.
That will be a good idea
Stop recycling these fools we don't wanna see that just give him a what if saga
Broly is canon, now we just need turles and cooler. Maybe the turtles move could center around goten and trunks finding their Saiyan roots.
@@adagiostan1938hmm Interesting also I Would Love Main timeline Janmaba
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The tree of might and how the fruits are dragon food is interesting, you could probably reintroduce that idea in super, and even Turles himself
I'm new to dragon ball and in xenoverse 2 when Turles was introduced my friends told me it was Goku's brother and I thought he was for a month straight 💀
Lmao you need new friends bro 💀
Thank you for this deep analysis! :)
I always knew they weren't related. I remember hearing the low class explanation. Considering my lack of access to all the other information too. I'm surprised I never made this mistake. Nice video.
Thank you for this information love the video
Aw mane lol. The mix up!!! Ahaha y’all took this one to another level!
I cant wait for your next video next year
I have always wonder that. great vid of the explanation
Bro how far we’ve come indeed bro 😅… you concluded this video with finesse & relatable reference
A few things to note is that turles is probably much older than goku and might even be nappas age. Secondly in the funi dub goku uses kaioken x20 which would make turles at least 3rd form frieza power scale
Goku's base power level in Tree of Might was 30,000
30,000 x 20 = 600,000
Third form Frieza has a PL of 2,000,000
3rd form is way too exagerated. Turles' initial power is 19k and went to 300k after the first fruit, one more and he'd be able to kill frieza in his first form. the second form would turn the tables and turles would end up getting killed.
@@wisemankugelmemicus1701 Frieza was also holding back a lot in both his 3rd and 4th forms when fighting Vegeta, Piccolo and Kurlin.
@@Ashley_J.Wno freiza 1st form was 500k
Good vid
Nice info
He should come back tbh, maybe have a second moving, he's a good dbz villian imo.
Turles is the original Otsutsuki. Now y’all know where Naruto got the idea of Otsutsuki and their power source.
Lol I thought about that too.
I feel like we got conned on this.
W FR 🔥🔥💯🐐🗿☕
Great Explanation Although I Already Knew Beforehand Still Great FR 🤠
Also Yeah I Would Like Turles To Make an Appearance in the Main DB Timeline 🗣️💯
This and world's strongest were my favorite early dbz movies. Also, learning about... mukake I think it's what you called him, was fascinating. I was unaware. Thanks
Bro is back 🎉🎉
Fun fact, wukong was birth from one of 4 rocks that had absorb energy. Another monkey was also born the same way. Unlike wukong in the beginning, this one was calm and well mannered and in its lifetime, had done many good deeds that allowed him to ascend to heaven after it died. Wukong learned immortality because of his fear of death and became arrogant but his journey to the west allowed him to grow and ascend to godhood. The other monkey didnt understand why wukong gets special treatment after all the bs things he done and was given a chance to ascend once his journey is done while he had to work hard to do so thus he became corrupt and believe he was better suited to replace wukong. In the story wukong defeated/killed his corrupt counterpart which eventually reincarnated into the next life as a monk and ascended once more because in this new life he had already relinquished his jealousy and only focus on doing good deeds again
Very cool
Bro that beat hard 😭😭🔥🔥🔥
The ending words hit hard...
Maaaan yt vids from back in the day showing super sayan 100 were wild af
Looking up pictures of Super Saiyan 5, what a throwback!
Because he's a representation of how Goku would've turned out if he never hurt his head, hence why he looks like Goku.
The movie itself at the end has Goku's friends be thankful that Goku hurt his head, not turning out as a monster.
Oh it’s as if you’ve watched the whole video lol though I do make some contrasts and references to other medias like journey to the west which is what dragon ball was based from. Additionally I dive into a mistranslations from different medias such as how European countries dealt with this film.
@@moodzi1322 I'll admit, I didn't watch the video when I made the comment. Lol.
Good video by the way.
Tree of might was my first introduction to DBZ back in the 90s it used to show on Toonami. Love that movie, this video makes me wanna go back and watch it now..
If they really wanted to make Turles Cannon they could make him an alternate version of Goku from Universe 6. I mean that would kind of explain why the Saiyans in Universe 6 are puny...because of Turles and how devastating his raw Saiyan power is they've been genetically altered to be smaller and weaker with no tails.
They have plenty of time to experiment with dragon ball heroes. They should give us what we want and give us some arcs from other universe s. Animated. Like this anime season could have been 12 episodes of Dedicated pride troopers anime. Pride Troopers a dragon ball story.24 episodes 2 seasons. Then give us something else. No goku until the finale to tie it in with the main story. Instead we ger rehashed content constantly.
I remember getting this DVD as a kid for Christmas
Frankly, I rather like the explanation that Turles and Goku only look alike because they're both low born. It kind of has a subtle hint about saiyan society, implying that only the elites like Vegeta could breed normally, and that those who's only purpose is to serve as rank-and-file fodder were instead 'mass produced' from a small genetic pool in order to make sure that they didn't breed stronger warriors. Through this, the elite could maintain their power over saiyan society by making sure they only bred with the strongest and produced the strongest offspring, while the low born simply had their genetic material taken and then used to sort of 'grow' additional low class warriors. Through this, low class warriors never were allowed to breed with each other, which would have given them the chance to breed stronger offspring over generations through selective mating and thus potentially challenge the ruling class. And it would further serve to fuel Vegeta's initial dismisal of Goku/Kakarot, since to him Goku wasn't just a low class... he was just a mass produced fodder soldier, where he the Prince of Saiyans was actually born and bred
Of course, this is ultimately not the case as later movies and series showed us... but it was kind of neat at the time
My only issue is what about all the other lowclass saiyans who look nothing like the 3? Bards wife and team all look nothing like him nor did the loads of saiyans in the Bard movie. I always figures that excuse was just kinda a cop out for the fact that honestly they reused Gokus design a lot some of the main cast even look the same. It's the reason why people say Gohan and Yamcha look alike, they just have the same hairstyle but most of them are one hairstyle or face scar away from being identical.
@@juliantaylor5222it would look dumb af if all low class saiyans looked like Goku, bardock and turles.
The story wouldnt be the same if every new saiyan character introduced thats NOT an elite would look like goku. Its makes sense to say a large portion of low class saiyans have similar traits. Hence why Goku, Turles, and Bardock are identical. Outside of Goten & Goku black i think we have enough
@@Late2u It's stupid for "low class saiyans" to look similar while "high class don't" regardless it makes it seem as if the two are different races. it's a dumb af in character excuse for why they keep reusing Gokus design. You even kinda proved my point, you said Goten but thats the hair, Gohan Goten and Goku all are the same design Gohan just has Yamchas hair who if you take a way the marks also looks like Goku. They was lazy with the budget and later made a excuse for why Turles despite never being confirmed to be related to Goku still looked like him.
Actually, it would make sense of them looking similar if the low-class breeding program was canon, because they'd just happen to have come from the same genetic stock or even the same 'parents.' Because Saiyans are so primitive, they'd likely have a system of mandatory sperm harvesting for 'ideal' males, and females that aren't fit to fight become birth mothers, whose only job is to be pregnant all the time. In this case, there would actually be a decent chance for Saiyans to share at least one parent with someone in their same unit, and many in their generation would have similar traits like hair, eye shape, nose shape, and so on, similar because of the stringent rules on the 'ideal' low-class male the elite want to propagate. Too weak and they're useless, too strong and they're a threat.
Bardock would have likely been qualified to give birth with Gine at one point, but then was ridiculed when his second son was much weaker than Raditz at birth (since we know Saiyan infants are scanned right away for starting power levels). Hell, that could have even demoted him to be 'low-class' on its own, where he was 'middle-class' prior.
Now here’s a fan that pays attention to material, does his research and doesn’t use crazy far fetched head canon
Please make more videos like these
Bro! i will always think Turles is a total badass! the way he fought was absolutely brawler style! i loved it !!!
Super Saiyan 5 is still such a great design. I wish Super Saiyan God looked like that.
Hell nah if they went with that eventually they would end up with a SSJ form that has hair that covers the entire world...
Raditz looks more like the Vegetas than Bardock and Goku, he should've been Vegeta's brother and Turles Goku's
At one point, I thought that the destruction of King Kai's planet was what exposed Buu's hiding place, mixing that up with the Bojack storyline.
I like the fan manga where Turles was actually the son of Bardock.
The las pic was legendary 😂
I would like to see a transformed Captain Ginyu as Goku ss blue fighting Goku Black. Two imposters/body snatchers.
This was my first movie I ever bought as a kid when I started my dbz movie collection
Dawg where’s the opening at?????that shit was too iconic
Tree of Might was my first ever exposure to Dragon ball Z. I watched in aww as They fought and 11 year old me fell in love in DBZ
Me too. It was literally the first time I ever seen anything related to dragon ball.
My brother in DBZ@@moodzi1322
The hunt for the ssj5 continues bro. #20yearslater
Restless days and sleepless nights everyday bro
Dude, this took me back to being 12, sitting in front of the VCR, recording the movies off Cartoon Network.
I was so proud, I cut out all the commercials 😂
24 damn years ago... and here I wonder why I'm finding grey and white hairs 😂
Turles is what i wanted Goku black to be
I wish he was Raditz and Goku oldest brother of both of them and the first son of Bardock and Gine but i guest Toe and Akira din't never plan him to be Goku brother only as a evil version of Goku.
I would have took turles over Gine
@@moodzi1322 why ? How that make senses lol
Sorry I meant that I would take more of turles than more of gine in the dragon ball series. Never been a fan of gine tbh
@@moodzi1322 ahhh ok i now understand i mean Gine is alright fo at least being different to the rest of Saiyan my problem is the Dragon Ball Minus arc i dont like how they made Goku origin in that arc i rather perfer the old OG Bardock Special with Gine included instead of the bad story is Dragon Ball Minus sure i love the new Broly movie but still Dragon Ball Minus is force i dont like it so many this fakes fans want to like it just because they want to go after the logicals opinions. But yeah i feel Turled is so underrated i wish he was made canon in the 90s , now couod be canon but i feel so late and i dont know how they make him canon i really dont want the same excuse of him looking like Goku just because they are low class i rather prefer he was variant of Goku in other universe or be related to Goku.
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What a cool sayian, I never been into the movies but defs in the series, I've watched since dragon ball, would have been cool to c this sayian in z.
Imagine if broly saw turles before he saw Goku , turles would be so confused about the non deserved ass whooping he will receive
At the same time, his name fits in with the Bardock family naming scheme, root based plants.
Kakarot-Carrot
Raditz-Radish
Bardock-Burdock Root
Gine-Spring Onion (Japanese)
Turles-Turnip
I always thought it was lettuce backwards. Like (t)tulece.
@@user-kl5zd2oe3e I can also see that.
Turles or Tullace. Lettuce.
@ghoulchan7525 Again, I'm not saying your wrong.
Turles is close to Turnip though.
I don't think he is part of the Bardock family, but he totally could have been
I always wanted to see him coming back 😮💨
Your right about one thing bro it was nothing like being a dragon ball fan back in the toonami days
I used to think Freiza, cooler and frost all were brothers that came from king cold
If the movie were canon, then the Saiyans probably had a caste system (low class and high class rarely have offspring with one another) and or Tutles and Goku are probably more closely related (not his brother)
Myth I remember when that movie came out was he was related. Like an uncle, cousin, even brother. Even tho raditz had much longer hair, he resembles vegeta more. Of course at this time it was before bardock showing up (which made it even worse cause how he looked like bardock as well) while every saiyan looked different. More I think about it the more annoyed I am. Like they killed raditz off and show no sign of any interest of bringing home back, turles wasn’t canon yet so it’s like perfect to bring back and make him a brother.
Yeah that image of Goku in SS5 was the cause of many sleepless nights for a lot of us back in the 90s 😭🤣👍
Was wondering the same
the true anti Goku
the movie was basically a what if "Goku vs Kakarot"
No, it was a “what if Goku never hit his head as a baby” scenario. That’s who Turles is.
@@dukeonwheels which is kakarot
Imagine if he was Goku’s other continents when he bumped his head, and then they fuse together
Well,
Turles AKA Lettuce should make another appearance as a matter of fact,
If I'm not mistaken, Turles made an appearance on Super Dragon Ball Heroes but him as well as Goku Black who is just a imposter and is Zamasu as well as having a Objective of eradicating Every Mortals looking alike is kinda weird
Imagine if Turles appears again
i love turles but let's hope that doesnt happen
I kind of not be surprised since garlic Jr came back.
And broly is not cannon he came back a 4th time.
Soo.. I heard cooler is coming back.
Still ssj4 isn't cannon and we may never see ssj 5, 6, or 7.
I like that in the Manga DRAGON BALL MINUS Tullece was in fact Raditz best friend. When Goku was born, Raditz still as a kid was competing in a fight to set himself as a warrior. Tullece also as a kid was on ring side cheering Raditz on, with the latter getting pummeled, so Tullece decided to create a distraction that allowed Raditz to win.
When Bardock returned to Planet Vegeta, he had spoken to his wife Gine, and she directed him to go to see Goku in the incubator tube. Bardock crosses path with Raditz and Tullece, and both excited tell him about Raditz win. Bardock congratulates Raditz and gifts him his arm bands. The three see Goku in the incubator, and soon after Raditz and Tullece have to leave for their first mission.
During the destruction of Planet Vegeta, Raditz and Tullece are getting their butts handed to them, and in the fight an attack really messes them up. We see Tullece unconscious, apparently or possibly dead (but I think he is unconscious), Raditz does an attack to the creatures they were fighting against, though I can't remember if he defeats them or Vegeta as a kid and Nappa rescue him. But we see the three of them talking about the destruction of Planet Vegeta, as they leave we still see that Tullece is on the floor unconscious or possibly dead.
I just always thought of Turles as a distant cousin.
Bardock needed rent money so he donated a lil something lol
4:08 DBZ fans in the 1990s: "Aww! "Tree of Might", again?"
Imagine if Turles were brought into modern day DBS, he would make for the best ultimate villain. A Saiyan with a power so strong he doesn’t need a transformation to make himself stronger.
Sooo literally Goku black for like 80% of his appearances?
@@Dragon-opsgoku black doesn’t count he’s technically a god/saiyan
Now that would be a good movie
Still didn't answer the question
Nah that'd be shit
I remember looking up super saiyan 5 as a kid and now seeing Gohan Beast, it's almost like a callback. White/grey hair and red eyes? Got em.
Ayooooooo I remember that pic too lol it was out over 15 years ago
@@baconeggcheesepodcast9390even longer that was out even when I was a kid in the very early 2000s
I mean, I never thought that with Turlus, but I really would like to know where I picked up that Sayins are mainly a clone race. I'm not saying they're incapable of breeding, but somewhere along the way I got that they primarily reproduced using clone pods, and that's why they always look alike.
The original canon of Dragon Ball is that all low rank saiyans look the same because they werent worthy of having unique appearances within the saiyan caste and were essentially used as cannon fodder
Lol imagine a conversation
"You saying all saiyans look a like?"
"Weeeeelllllllllll........."
They NEED to give Turles that DBS Broly treatment🗣
What like more shitty power scaling?
@@UnifiedEntity Easy Explanation Tree Of Might I rest my case🗿
@@waterh2o299 Pretty sure he would need to eat the fruit first, and before it even gets at that point Goku and Vegeta by default should utterly eclipse him In power. And he won't know Super Saiyan otherwise he would've attacked Frieza, and he wouldn't have faced enemies like Buu like Goku did get as strong at that point to contest them pre fruit. So try again.
bro is personally offended@@UnifiedEntity
@@UnifiedEntity🤡
Bardock was out there strokin everything walking 😂😂
Just want this guy back
Turles also hates Christmas.
😔
What’s the name of that beat? It’s been so long since I heard it
I always thought Turles was Goku's cousin cuz I saw that floating around in the internet as a kid
Sounds like the 10 tails..... tree bearing a fruit that gives crazy power
I remember it as them being the same class of sayin.
I thought the dragon ball z Dokkan battle ad about turles was part of the video😂😂😭
Bro there was no reason for you to go so hard 0:13 🔥
turles could come back as a universe 6 Goku, maybe Champa wanted to have a Goku of his own and wishes for turles with the planet wish orbs. that could be interesting.
When I first saw turles I always thought he was another brother of kakarot
They should bring back Turlus n Raditz in the upcoming parts as their back story has never been well explored
The tree of life?
Dont you mean the greatest christmas tree ever?
I feel like the dubs that spread that rumor could have done a better job with that line if they had established how much they looked alike in the dialogue with a comment before he taunted goku
Tbh writers are obsessed with Goku, he's the only one allowed to win and there are several characters that look like him. Turles, Baldock, Goten. Dbz is my favourite anime, but it really is frustrating as a fan that Vegeta/Gohan and even characters that were once considered strong aren't allowed to shine.
They're from the same clan. That's stated in the movie tree of might.
Turtles was the OG Otsustsuki
The one iv always heard since in was a kid was turles is gokus uncle with his brother being gokus dad.
This was the best DBZ movie in my opinion
I used to think him and Goku were cousins lol
Honestly, who knows, they could very well be. Akira toriyama himself said Bardock doesn’t know who his brothers are. If Bardock looks like Goku, then his brother could also look like him.
Then we get super dragon ball heros, where turles has longer hair