I’m a Dean Martin superfan. And I enjoy all he’s done with Frank. Dean is a huge personality. And his delivery is playful and you can hear the smiles in his voice. He loves what he does.
Omgosh... I am a Dean Martin fan too... Since childhood. My mother used to play his records just because I was right there with her... Martin, Vale, Como... so many but first pick, always Dean.
There's a goodness in Dean Martin's voice that just shines through. Reading through his wikipedia I see no scandals, his image of being an alcoholic partier was a put on (he'd always be holding a drink but it was apple juice), and he always went home in time for dinner.
@@sup9542 my mom always claimed it was yes…merely a stage prop for his persona and the skits. Her and Dad would go to Vegas every year to see the Rat Pack shows.
I remember watching and listening to these two guys growing up in the 60s. Dean seemed to always be relaxed with a Martini or Scotch on the rocks in hand. He was very playful with the dancing girls and female guests he would have on his show. I didn't like stiff Frank who seemed to prefer to talk through his songs rather than sing them melodically. I think Frank was more of a jazz singer which was supposed to be more sophisticated. Phil, I find your wave analyses of various singers very interesting. Could you analyze these three artists renderings of the Fleetwood Mac hit, Landslide: Stevie Nicks, Ellen Petersen (The Petersen Family) and Maggie Adams (Foxes and Fossils)? There is one low note at the beginning of this sing that eveen Stevie seems to suggest rather than actually hit. I'd love to get your take on these lovely performers.
@@PleaseNThankYou My parents listened to them too. My mother unfortunately bought the gag and thought he was a drinker, so she would tsk, tsk, :), although she wasn't immune to his voice and good looks and charm, and she thought Sinatra was a womanizer and got into too many fights. She loved Perry Como, another really good guy and family man, and Bing Crosby too. She didn't know about his issues. She thought he was just like the priest he played in The Bells of St. Mary's :)
Frank in his early years was a real student of singing,, he was into it,, a real technician,,,, there's a story that Deana Martin tells that when she started to try to sing as a teen Frank was at Dean's house one evening and she asked Frank many questions about the art of singing and Frank patiently answered them,, gave much great advice and technical information and then she asked Frank is that what my dad does and Frank said your dad has no idea what he's doing,, he just does it....
I've heard somewhere how he learnt from Jo Stafford from Pied Pipers and Tommy Dorsey about breath support, it is interesting that we all know Frank Sinatra as this swing guy, but actually he started out as someone who sings long legato phrases like a classical singer.
Uncle Frank gave me some advice as well. “You have to learn to breathe from your diaphragm,” he said. “That’s what makes the difference.” “Does Dad do that?” I asked innocently. Frank nearly spilled his Jack Daniel’s. “He doesn’t need to, he’s a natural,” he replied, laughing. “He doesn’t even know that’s what you’re supposed to do. He just does it.” Excerpt From: Deana Martin. “Memories Are Made of This.” Apple Books.
@@rorygay7284 until Dino died, Dean was. And then his world shattered. I learned recently that Dean called Frank the day Dean died. Dean called to tell Frank a joke: What did one casket say to the other casket? _Is that you, coffin?_ 12 hours later, Dino Paul Crocetti died. Called Frank to tell him a *joke* of all things. What a guy.
You are a absolutely right about the smile in his voice ! I had noticed that quite often when he sings certain songs. I love listening to those great singers of the 60s. I love all types of singers, but men like Nat King Cole, Johnny Matthis, Mel Torme, Tony Bennett and all the rest are in a class of their own. Putting those crooners aside, the artists and groups of the 60s and 70s were the best. There were good artists in the 80s, but music was definitely changing and not for the better in my opinion.
I grew up in this era. Dean's style was very Italian. By that I mean, it was like your favorite, handsome uncle got up at a wedding and with a cigarette in one hand and a drink in the other performed a great, relaxed rendition of a popular song. He smiled and seemed amused and he was letting you in on the fun. BTW, slightly flat singing is compelling because the listener is always waiting for the resolution of the note. Great analysis per usual.
I absolutely love Dean Martin. I grew up listening and watching. True triple threat, film, music and television. I like Sinatra, but Dean was it for me.
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Regarding Dean sounding "relaxed" you may have to take into account the fact that Dean's "persona" was that he was always drunk...lol..he often held a glass while performing...regardless, he always appeared to be having a good time...
To me it sounds like Dean is trying to give the listener an actual feeling of a relaxing fire and visual of popping corn. Just a laid back mood during a Christmas season snow storm. I for a brief time lived in the town Dean hailed from in Ohio.
I've always loved Dean Martin's voice. Dean's voice is like listening to butter melt. Marshmallow World is a real delight to listen to. So wintery and Christmassy.
That is the one thing I tend to strain out. I hate "been there, did that". It reeks of being burned out and too over used. No more freshness, which is a major part of the elixir of life.
You're a genius, Phil. You've explained for me something I've never really understood, which is why although I can appreciate every single aspect of Frank's artistry, from pitch control, breathing, phrasing, diction and on and on, he never makes me emotional. It's like looking at a beautiful piece of art to which you have no emotional response. For fun, Dean Martin was more my style, and for emotion Elvis Presley, and both could have a sexy vibe that I just never got from Sinatra. I hope you analyze Bing Crosby too. He always made me feel warm and secure, comforted, somehow. I hope you do some female singers too, like a comparison between Ella Fitzgerald and Nina Simone or Sarah Vaughan.
Funny, my take on Sinatra´s voice is 180 degrees opposite. It´s very emotional, and I feel (I think I am not alone) that he´s singing personnally to me. : ) Same with Dean and Elvis that you mentioned, among many others.
Exactly the same with me. I'd rather hear Dean singing anything than Frank singing his biggest hits. Now I know why. (And as a singer, I understand why so many singing friends with perfect voices just left me cold.)
There's a video somewhere (looked but can't find it) of Dean and Frank singing a duet... when it's Frank's turn, Dean starts to jog on the spot with a steely determined look on his face and a very bemused and confused Frank singing next to him.... Frank always sang straight during the Rat pack days and EVERYONE had to stop fooling around but with Dean, anything was OK ... there was a show that Dean and Jerry (Lewis) did before a live audience... Dean was singing his heart out and Jerry killed the stage lights... total darkness ... without missing a beat, Dean flicked on his cigarette lighter and continued singing ... comic genius and too talented for words.
@@daz4627 The Rat Pack worked fantastically well. Each member played their role perfectly. Of coures it was all an act. Dean wasn't the alcoholic lounge singer. Sammy wasn't the oppressed black Jewish man and Frank wasn't the mafia Don. Well, not the Don anyway! I hope..
Right, Sinatra was a perfectionist when it came to his craft, but Dean just sang the songs the way he knew how had fun and sounded great. Totally different styles. Frank sang songs that Dean couldn't and they were mainly the songs that told a story. Well, maybe he could but I doubt if his presentation would have been as good as Sinatra's.
In an interview with Deana Martin, she was recalling a conversation that she had as a young lady with her "Uncle Frank", where she asked him about his singing style. He talked about breath control, phrasing, using his diaphragm, etc. She said, "Oh, is that how my dad does it?" Frank said, "No. Your father has no idea what he is doing, he just opens his mouth and that's what comes out." Two TOTALLY different singers and styles.
Good thing I scrolled down through the comments. I was about to relate that story before I found your post. As I recall the story, Deana went to Frank for advice. After he explained some particular vocal techniques, and Deana asked if her dad knew that, Frank said, "No, he has no idea what he's doing. He's just a natural."
@@fidge54 Frank was limited. Dean could sing Italian songs, Country, Pop and a better actor despite Frank’s Academy award. Frank could be Frank and that’s it. Frank never did an album in a whole different style the Dean could. Dean was a decent human being as well.
For me personally, i love both but its Dean's voice i adore most of the two, it's the nonchalance he has that makes him so smooth and soothing, no wonder that women swooned after him like bees to honey lol. The trio of Frank, Dean and "Mr. Bojangles" Sammy Davis Jr. (please do him next! preferably .. Mr. Bojangles because that song was him) was basically one hell of a power trio who played of of each other perfectly, truly the great's of the era.. but also today they are still considered as some of the greatest performers we had. Fil going crooner, i like it, i like it a lot ;)
I'd like to see Sammy's 'Mr. Bojangles' compared with the rendition by the song's writer, Jerry Jeff Walker, who died last year. Walker was primarily a folk/country singer of songs written by others; 'Mr. Bojangles' was one of a small number of originals.
Dean was influenced by Harry Mills, and he had the Mills Brothers on his show a lot. You can hear it when they sing together - and you can see how much he enjoys it.
@@filmmekker Same with Frank Sinatra. Bing Crosby was his favorite singer. Bing was older than those guys. He influenced a lot of the Italian crooners that came out later.
To me both are good but it seems Dean has that natural born God given talent and if I was asked who I wanted to listen to it would be Dean ever time. ;)
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Dean was one of my all time favorites. He often would bent into the notes sliding into pitch and of course all the glissando as well as his relaxed timing. It was not that he could not sing perfectly or as well as Frank, it was just his style. And it was so effective. He was interviewed once where he explained that he had to learn to do that and create his signature style and tone. He truly was unique. The sad part of his career was the drunk Schtick. He was not a drunk according to his friends but it almost became such a part of his act that it really made him less of a singer and more of an caricature. And Jerry Lewis didn’t help him either .
You can actually hear Dean's smile. I can picture him at a house party, leaning against the piano with a drink in his hand, just enjoying himself. What joy! Thanks for breaking this down.
This song suits Dean Martin's strengths better. His easy going fun loving persona is a perfect fit. Sinatra has a wider variety of strengths. He has a larger emotional range (his sad songs are actually my favorite), he has extremely nuanced rhythmic phrasing, and a voice that can range anywhere from brash to very gentle and intimate. Both singers would be demolished by tuning, as vibrato, glissando, and pitch were extremely fine tuned and all of the microtonal motions are very important to their artistry. I haven't enjoyed much popular music in the last 20 years or so while I enjoy a quite a bit of popular music from the 1930s onward. It's not a coincidence that the creation of vocal tuning coincides with me enjoying drastically less music. It sounds worse to me. Less expressive, less flexible, more monotonous, and even boring. It's nice you've been showing people pitch so they can learn more about this.
Enjoy listening to both of these crooners. Dean is more relaxed & sounds like he has had a drink or two. He was nicknamed "The King Of Cool". Frank's voice is also smooth & pleasant to listen to. They both sound really natural, like it takes no effort. Both are winners. It actually sounds more pleasant to the ears if the notes are not hit exactly all the time & showcases the individuality of the voice & the mood. Frank & Dean were part of the famous Rat Pack in the 50's-60's.
Having just watched a bio documentary on Dean Martin and listening to his Christmas cd, your video is timely. I watched his tv show as a kid and I smile every time I hear him. He really knew how to reach people.
Perry is a harder sell. He comes off as just too white-bread bland. Bing had a bit more kick, especially in his early recordings and jazz with Louis and others.
Taking for granted Frank was a brilliant talent, I was more partial to Dean's delivery if not the voice itself. Love Dean's version of Memories are Made of This. Dean's whole persona was just cool as opposed to being pompous as Frank sometimes could be. Really liked Dean's acting too. Dean was a very sober family man too. That whole drinking and carousing and smoking thing was just a persona he effected. You should check out Bing Crosby and go deep a bit. He was so much more than White Christmas, had a hell of a range.
As you said, Dean was a sober family man, but his public persona was as one who is always a bit tipsy with a ubiquitous drink in his hand. This persona translated to his singing in the style shown in this video, as very cool, couldn't be bothered to sing it perfectly, and perhaps slightly off as if from being slightly tipsy.
I read several years ago that Memories are Made of This was intended to by sung with an orchestra. The track we are all familiar with was a warm up with backup singers and guitars and it was so good, that was the version that was released. I don't know if that's true but I love Dean's version.
Huge Dean Martin fan here! Fil, when you said it almost seems like Dean was leaning back singing, I chuckled. Watch his old show, he would do just that...even lying on top of a grand piano. Drink in 1 hand, cigarette in the other. Handsome, talented, and the coolest guy on earth.
I think this explains why enjoy Dean, it's not the relaxed speed or even his pitch, it's the timbre and the tone of his voice I like. As others have stated in their comments, that the two were friends and Dean's personality shines in his style, you've explained in an analysis of Adele's vocals and how she wasn't really on the notes, yet the response of the emotional impact is undeniable. Didn't persuade me to like Frank more or to feel Dean was inferior in anyway. Thanks for the comparison.
Dean is flirting while he sings. The phrasing, the slides, the enunciation of words. He ‘winks’ to the pretty girls in the audience through song. Just a different style. Please do Bing Crosby. Then some women ‘crooners’ Rosemary Clooney, Peggy Lee, Ella. Dont forget Karen Carpenter. Would your contraption be able to analyze trios like Andrew Sisters? Dont mind me, I am a vintage non auto tune era gal.
Loved them both...I think they complemented and enjoyed one another. Truly fun video, you are so good at this, showing, illustrating, explaining, demonstrating!!!! Both Dean and Frank seem to be singing in service of the song, not showing how fancy their vocals can be. Thanks, Fil!
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Fil, you continue to blow me away with your analysis and the wave form. These are two of my favorite male singers (Linda Ronstadt is my favorite female artist), and seeing this comparison is absolutely awesome. Your understanding of what is going on is also amazing, and you can often sing the section you are talking about to make it real clear to us. I can completely see how you explained Dino being relaxed compared to frank, and yet they both have amazing voices. My wife really LOVE Dino and Johnny Mathis, and I think it has to do with how they both sound so relaxed and have that warm, inviting story to tell. Thanks for listening to these two greats, and with the same song to make the comparison really strong. Well done! How do you go about picking such great singers to listen to? I still cannot get over your analysis of Linda Ronstadt.
Dean Martin daughter Deana like to tell the story of when the 2 familys did a Dean Martin Christmas in 68 together. Deana and Frank daughter Tina was getting ready to sing with their dads Deana was really nervous and she ask Frank standing by her " how he knows he going to hit the right note" . Frank said he just take a deep breath, he knows before it even before it comes out if he is on key. Then she ask him if that's what her father did, Frank said " No he just do it, he don't have any idea what he is doing". That relaxing voice of Dean is so fun to listen too. Thank for your video . They was so close to each other their kids called the other uncle Frank or uncle Dean.
Thank you so much for doing this! When I left my comment requesting this after listening to Frank, I didn't think that there was a big chance that you would do it. However, I started reading the comments after I left mine and there were many people who had the same idea! I was blown away when I saw the notification that you were doing this and I really loved it! You explain to me so well, the difference between their voices. I knew Dean sounded more relaxed, but now I know why. I also knew that he would slide into notes like Frank did, but I didn't quite understand the difference. Your explanation was fantastic! Some people would say that the reason Dean Martin sounds so relaxed is because he drank so much. However, what they don't know is he didn't drink alcohol at all! He just pretended to! Thank you again, fantastic job!
Sinatra wasn't really around professionally until 1939 with Harry James - more the Forties and Fifties I would say Georg. Sinatra said that Bing was 'the father of my career...' when Crosby died in 1977. However, he did realise that there were many imitators and early on (consciously) moved away from Bing's style to longer phrasing etc. Love them both and also Dean. A good comparison would be to pick out two songs from High Society (1956) since they both appeared and also sang in it - actually together in 'What A Swell Party This Is' or two ballads from it, such as '(I Love You) Samantha' (Crosby) and 'You're Sensational' (Sinatra). Just a thought...for a real treat you get all three of these great singers here ! czcams.com/video/9Gw8RDOGfKk/video.html Best wishes...
Good idea. If you listen to Crosby's voice in the 1930s his voice had a higher range than later in his career. His voice deepened over time. There are quite a few videos of Bing in the 1930s singing with Paul Whiteman's orchestra.
Great analysis. Kudos for your willingness to sing also alongside Frank and Dean. Maybe Rat Pack is being re-imagined. Great to hear this side of your skills.
Dean’s voice had so much more character and substance. It’s croony playfulness and sensual drawl make it one of my favorite voices of all time. It was an intimate voice - one that you almost felt was just for you because you could feel everything he sang. And when they were on stage together, my eye was always drawn to Dean. So much so that I almost forgot Frank was there. For years I thought this was just me but the more people I spoke to I found it to be the case with many others too. Dean was the man.
women like dean martins looks more but Sinatra was a much better artist and singer. Dean Martin made everything a joke when at times joking is not appropriate sometimes its good to do a serious song
@@dltguitar6532 I disagree entirely. I think Dean was humorous at the right times and serious at the right times. I also think his voice had so much more character and intimacy.
This is just amazing! Thank you so much. You can’t help but smile listening to Dean because you can just hear the cheekiness. I’m pretty sure there’s a Frank quote somewhere that echoes a lot of these comments about how he had to work hard to become a good singer, but for Dean, it was effortless. Would love to hear your take Bing Crosby and Nat King Cole!
I love them both... But Dean.... Oh God! I fell his voice in my body, in my soul. Frank is out of this world but sometimes his perfect technique covers the emotions of the song a little bit. That's why i LOVE the Columbia years because he was so young and pure.. I can feel that. Two giants, two legends of music, show business and cinema!! Unbeatable talents!!!!
I was never a Sinatra fan, singer or actor, but I had a big crush on Dean. Not with Jerry Lewis, but in Dean's other movies, his variety show, and appearances were very enjoyable. He had a style that was more relaxed, often joking that he was drunk while performing.
Marvelous analysis of how Dean Martin achieves his incredible delivery of vocals. I wish folks these days understood what a wonderful talent Dean was, whether singing, acting, or performing comedy. He was a mega-superstar in his day, who is still a treat to watch and/or listen to now. Pity we lost him on Christmas Day, 1995. (Personal aside: I proposed to my wife on Christmas Eve, 1995, while Dean Martin was playing in the background. True story!) Thanks, Fil. Love your videos!
Dean was blessed with an incredibly beautiful voice---truly, an instrument. Frank had a very good voice and an intense dedication to singing well. Both were great. I liked Dean more because he seemed to sing with no effort. He seemed never to "force" a note; rather, it was as though he simply and graciously _allowed_ the notes to go forth from his instrument in a completely relaxed, natural manner. The notes were there, waiting, and when the time was right, he gave them to the world.
Frank sounds more refined and practiced while Dean just instinctively belts them out. The difference is that there are some songs, not all, that Frank absolutely owns while everything Dean sings sounds great. I like both singers even though they are as different as night and day.
Good way to put it. I was on a Dean Martin marathon a few weeks ago and never got tired of his velvet voice. It's about as soothing a voice as I've heard. I've never felt like having a Sinatra marathon. But there are some songs Sinatra is just iconic on and no one could have that impact.
@@sup9542 So true. On some songs, Sinatra is absolutely perfect. "Fly me to the moon" for example. And too many other iconic recordings to mention. Dean has that smooth velvet tone that instantly draws you in. Two great artists
Frank never ever made me cry. Elvis certainly can. Dean is so warm. Frank approaches his song with all the emotion of a non involved surgeon..great on technique but no soul.
I always felt that Dean was always having fun with his singing and not too concerned if he was not sounding serious. No...I have not listened to every single song that Dean has sung, but I have heard many of them over my 70 years, and I do not specifically remember hearing one ( maybe Everybody Needs Somebody Sometime ), where it sounded like he was really trying to be serious. He perfected his "drunk with a cigarette hanging from one hand and a half empty liquor glass in the other; slurring his speech and acting silly " routine so well, that maybe I could not separate that persona from his singing. I, like so many other people, thought that Dean was really drunk in his show and was always a drunk and a woman chaser. But many years later, I found out that Dean was never drunk on his show ( he had apple juice or something similar in his glass ), and was a devoted family man and husband. My respect for his amazing talent to pull that persona off and his devotion to his family went sky high..!! And if you want to watch Dean do his thing and laugh so hard that you will fall out of your seat; look up the Johnny Carson show in 1969 where Johnny's guests were Dean Martin, Bob Hope, and George Gobel. After George Gobel comes out is when the real fun begins. You will not be disappointed...!!! czcams.com/video/K9lis3lCo9s/video.html
I had the privilege to have seen Frank Sinatra and Dean Martin together at the Latin Casino dinner theater in Cherry Hill NJ in the early seventies. Amazing show by two legends.
My father always said Dean’s voice was like a trombone, and Frankie he called him was more of a trumpet, lol. Pat Boone was good friends with Dean, he said he really wasn’t a drinker but made that persona, kept iced tea in his glass.
Maybe this was why Dean Martin's song Volare was on the juke box *and got regular playtime, at the college pub, despite the generational difference. Foosball and Dean. Of course, it's also fun to sing along to the Volare chorus!
Love em both, but there is something about Deans phrasing and tone that just makes me prefer him. He sounds like he is harmony with the music. The King of Cool!
Fil before talking shop, I just want to wish you a Happy New Year and may it be healthy and prosperous and for the awesome videos. Personally I always tended to listen more Dean than Frank perhaps because my mom had all his albums. His voice was a treat to listen to due to his control and effortless shifts. Thank you. 🎉2022.
Two BIG names!! Dean from Steubenville, Ohio and Frank from Hoboken, N.J. Each have fantastic voices and I am so glad you are doing this video. Artists like you Fil, are keeping music alive. Keep posting sir and I will continue to watch and support your effort. Pleasant Holidays to you and all your followers❤️🧑🎄✌️
Not long ago, I went to Hoboken, NJ. Just about each and every store sells some type of knickknack--e.g. magnet, keychain, etc.--with a photo of a young Frabk Sinatra and the words: "Hoboken's Favorite Son." It's not far from New York City if you happen to be in that area.
Both Martin's and Sinatra's singing styles always appeared to be a reflection of their personalities. Martin was more laid back, but Sinatra's personality has been described as being enterprising, ambitious and determined.
You do a great job breaking it down. Me personally I like Dean's voice better though Frank obviously had the bigger career with the "establishment" behind him. Your explanation of how one feels by the way the singer sings along with your previous Elvis video now tells me why one is so taken in with emotion on any Elvis song. Thanks again
These are amazing. I didn't know how Frank and Dean sang. I didn't know Dean sang on key as much as he really did. He always sounded kind of sloughy to me. They sang so well together. We don't have singers like Frank and Dean anymore. Everyone seems to against each other than being friends and being close. Thank you Fil for doing these. Stay safe and see you Friday.
When Dean sang 'Retorna Me' or 'Memories are made of this' there may have been no topping him, much as I love Sinatra's voice and his arranging skill. Fil, I wonder if you've ever taken a bit of time to look at Elvis' Gospel music. He really put his heart into it.
I love this paired analysis of Dean and Frank!! To my ears, Dean is smiling much more throughout his vocal delivery which gives any song of his more loft and great Vibes!! Many thanks, Fil, I enjoy your keen observations and sense of Humour!! 👋😎👍
Thanks man, I'm glad you know what you are talking about and deliver educated breakdowns. I've always liked Dean's voice more than Frank's, but enjoy both vocalists and yeah the moods they create are so different and it's ultimately my mood that decides which one I'm turning on. Now how about ol Bing Crosby who influenced both of these cats early on?
Two absolutely great singers; two different stylistic approaches. Thanks for contrasting these two giants. This shows again how the "produced" auto-tune or pitch correction approach may be an interesting effect, but great singers make great music, without the need for "adjustments". Like Dean shows, the song and the style may mean the most important element is the feeling, whether that means singing under the pitch, glissandi, syncopation or other vocal fireworks. I'd like to think that you would get a "like" from Frank and Dean for this.
If these guys were brass instruments, Dean would be a slide trombone and Frank a trumpet. It’s also nice hearing them sing without the huge orchestra. Thanks for posting. Happy New Year🍾
This is genius idea. I've never seen anything like before. Everyone wonders how singers compare. There are undoubtedly a lot of things to compare but this is an excellent start. Thanks.
Fil! I have been having such a blast with you, learning and enjoying, infuriated (auto tuning) and laughing. This channel is an educational hoot! Dean-o is so awesome, and such a perfect example of what a gem we would have lost were auto tuning something that pervaded the music industry as long ago as this recording. I have been sick for almost a year, and sometimes I get a little punchy waiting to get better. Thank you for such an invigorating, sweet, fun channel handling so many different artists and genres. You are the best doctor!
Great comparison. They are both great. Dean Martin also changes up the words a little bit at the end of a couple of lines. This adds to the relaxed feel.
Great video. So Dean was a more emotional singer and Frank a more technical singer, it seems. Doesn’t mean Dean wasn’t technically capable neither does it mean Frank was totally unemotional.
Good job! Thank you!! *PLEASE* now do a similar job of analyzing *JOHNNY MATHIS* also singing *'LET IT SNOW! LET IT SNOW! LET IT SNOW!'* . Mathis is by far my favorite crooner ever - and for a long time, he was the ONLY crooner I appreciated. Johnny had a fantastic voice with (I believe) incredible control. So I would *LOVE* to see how the Mathis voice stacks up visually with Sinatra's and Martin's voices.
I think I'd rather hear YOU sing than analyzing! I'm a retired professional violist, and I grew up listening to these guys. At one point in a musician's life, he/she wants to know how another does it. At 75 years of age, I know that there's room, in this world for EVERYBODY 'S voice, as long as it's authentic!
Besides being relaxed, I think there is also a great deal of story telling in Deans voice. When he starts "Oh, the weather outside is frightful", it's like he's really telling us something. Yes - laid back in an armchair. It's like a late night conversation. But anyway - seen in print it's not the best lyrics ever written. But Dean manage to make them much more interesting.
This was superb! That era of song spinners was like no other. Dean Martin is a favorite of mine. I think I know why now. Another favorite is Ella Fitzgerald. Perhaps you can tell me if she also sang flat. Thank you! Happy new year 🎊 God Bless.
Great analysis. Check out Dean Martin´s live performance of "By the time I get to Phoenix", he´s actually laying back on a couch masterfully delivering the song. For Frank I think really showed off his voice when he sang ballads, I recommend checking out his album "Where are you".
I’m a Dean Martin superfan. And I enjoy all he’s done with Frank. Dean is a huge personality. And his delivery is playful and you can hear the smiles in his voice. He loves what he does.
Omgosh... I am a Dean Martin fan too... Since childhood. My mother used to play his records just because I was right there with her... Martin, Vale, Como... so many but first pick, always Dean.
There's a goodness in Dean Martin's voice that just shines through. Reading through his wikipedia I see no scandals, his image of being an alcoholic partier was a put on (he'd always be holding a drink but it was apple juice), and he always went home in time for dinner.
@@sup9542 my mom always claimed it was yes…merely a stage prop for his persona and the skits. Her and Dad would go to Vegas every year to see the Rat Pack shows.
I remember watching and listening to these two guys growing up in the 60s. Dean seemed to always be relaxed with a Martini or Scotch on the rocks in hand. He was very playful with the dancing girls and female guests he would have on his show. I didn't like stiff Frank who seemed to prefer to talk through his songs rather than sing them melodically. I think Frank was more of a jazz singer which was supposed to be more sophisticated.
Phil, I find your wave analyses of various singers very interesting. Could you analyze these three artists renderings of the Fleetwood Mac hit, Landslide: Stevie Nicks, Ellen Petersen (The Petersen Family) and Maggie Adams (Foxes and Fossils)? There is one low note at the beginning of this sing that eveen Stevie seems to suggest rather than actually hit. I'd love to get your take on these lovely performers.
@@PleaseNThankYou My parents listened to them too. My mother unfortunately bought the gag and thought he was a drinker, so she would tsk, tsk, :), although she wasn't immune to his voice and good looks and charm, and she thought Sinatra was a womanizer and got into too many fights. She loved Perry Como, another really good guy and family man, and Bing Crosby too. She didn't know about his issues. She thought he was just like the priest he played in The Bells of St. Mary's :)
Frank in his early years was a real student of singing,, he was into it,, a real technician,,,, there's a story that Deana Martin tells that when she started to try to sing as a teen Frank was at Dean's house one evening and she asked Frank many questions about the art of singing and Frank patiently answered them,, gave much great advice and technical information and then she asked Frank is that what my dad does and Frank said your dad has no idea what he's doing,, he just does it....
Bing Crosby worked that way, too. Their tighter accompaniments demanded more discipline and accuracy.
I've heard somewhere how he learnt from Jo Stafford from Pied Pipers and Tommy Dorsey about breath support, it is interesting that we all know Frank Sinatra as this swing guy, but actually he started out as someone who sings long legato phrases like a classical singer.
@@monkmchorning He is my favorite of the pack! Love Bing
Uncle Frank gave me some advice as well. “You have to learn to breathe from your diaphragm,” he said. “That’s what makes the difference.”
“Does Dad do that?” I asked innocently.
Frank nearly spilled his Jack Daniel’s. “He doesn’t need to, he’s a natural,” he replied, laughing. “He doesn’t even know that’s what you’re supposed to do. He just does it.”
Excerpt From: Deana Martin. “Memories Are Made of This.” Apple Books.
@@SwimnBird Hey I was close !! :)
Dean made it look so easy. He didn’t have to try too hard. “Let it Snow!” sounds like it was written for him.
I always favored dean over Frank, maybe because of dean's TV show. He always seemed playful and joyful.
@@rorygay7284 Me too! That era was glorious with voices. Something special. And the cigarettes and booze! Still classy
@@rorygay7284 until Dino died, Dean was. And then his world shattered. I learned recently that Dean called Frank the day Dean died. Dean called to tell Frank a joke:
What did one casket say to the other casket?
_Is that you, coffin?_
12 hours later, Dino Paul Crocetti died. Called Frank to tell him a *joke* of all things. What a guy.
Dean was the master. You can actually hear him smiling as he sings. The greatest saloon singer of all time.
You are a absolutely right about the smile in his voice ! I had noticed that quite often when he sings certain songs.
I love listening to those great singers of the 60s. I love all types of singers, but men like Nat King Cole, Johnny Matthis, Mel Torme, Tony Bennett and all the rest are in a class of their own.
Putting those crooners aside, the artists and groups of the 60s and 70s were the best. There were good artists in the 80s, but music was definitely changing and not for the better in my opinion.
I grew up in this era. Dean's style was very Italian. By that I mean, it was like your favorite, handsome uncle got up at a wedding and with a cigarette in one hand and a drink in the other performed a great, relaxed rendition of a popular song. He smiled and seemed amused and he was letting you in on the fun. BTW, slightly flat singing is compelling because the listener is always waiting for the resolution of the note. Great analysis per usual.
The only thing Dean faked being intoxicated, my uncles didn't fake it! lol
@@elainedelvecchio4938 He did? I thought he had a drinking problem.
I absolutely love Dean Martin. I grew up listening and watching. True triple threat, film, music and television. I like Sinatra, but Dean was it for me.
Dean and Frank were both brilliant singers. My heart connects with Dean's performances a bit more, though. Both were incredible talents.
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Regarding Dean sounding "relaxed" you may have to take into account the fact that Dean's "persona" was that he was always drunk...lol..he often held a glass while performing...regardless, he always appeared to be having a good time...
I agree.
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To me it sounds like Dean is trying to give the listener an actual feeling of a relaxing fire and visual of popping corn. Just a laid back mood during a Christmas season snow storm. I for a brief time lived in the town Dean hailed from in Ohio.
I've always loved Dean Martin's voice. Dean's voice is like listening to butter melt. Marshmallow World is a real delight to listen to. So wintery and Christmassy.
Dean has the most relaxing delivery ever. He sings with a smile on his face. So damn cool!!
Dean was the best "crooner" of all time! So relaxed,seemed to be having fun singing. Voice to die for!
I love Dean's style. So chill, relaxed. He puts his personality into a very overplayed, been there, done that tune.
That is the one thing I tend to strain out. I hate "been there, did that". It reeks of being burned out and too over used. No more freshness, which is a major part of the elixir of life.
You're a genius, Phil. You've explained for me something I've never really understood, which is why although I can appreciate every single aspect of Frank's artistry, from pitch control, breathing, phrasing, diction and on and on, he never makes me emotional. It's like looking at a beautiful piece of art to which you have no emotional response. For fun, Dean Martin was more my style, and for emotion Elvis Presley, and both could have a sexy vibe that I just never got from Sinatra. I hope you analyze Bing Crosby too. He always made me feel warm and secure, comforted, somehow. I hope you do some female singers too, like a comparison between Ella Fitzgerald and Nina Simone or Sarah Vaughan.
Funny, my take on Sinatra´s voice is 180 degrees opposite. It´s very emotional, and I feel (I think I am not alone) that he´s singing personnally to me. : ) Same with Dean and Elvis that you mentioned, among many others.
Exactly the same with me. I'd rather hear Dean singing anything than Frank singing his biggest hits. Now I know why. (And as a singer, I understand why so many singing friends with perfect voices just left me cold.)
I have always prefered Dean's voice and Bing's to Frank. I would like to see Phil do a work up of Bing Crosby compared to Dean and Frank.
@@garyr8739 Amazingly, I had the same thought. Bing's voice is just soothing, and I wonder where he places in this constructed pantheon.
Dean sounds as he's singing to a friend, and the listener is that friend. I like Frank a lot but it's more fun with Dino.
Dean didn’t take himself seriously. Sinatra saw his voice as an instrument which he took to its limits.
This is the right answer.
There's a video somewhere (looked but can't find it) of Dean and Frank singing a duet... when it's Frank's turn, Dean starts to jog on the spot with a steely determined look on his face and a very bemused and confused Frank singing next to him.... Frank always sang straight during the Rat pack days and EVERYONE had to stop fooling around but with Dean, anything was OK ... there was a show that Dean and Jerry (Lewis) did before a live audience... Dean was singing his heart out and Jerry killed the stage lights... total darkness ... without missing a beat, Dean flicked on his cigarette lighter and continued singing ... comic genius and too talented for words.
@@daz4627 The Rat Pack worked fantastically well. Each member played their role perfectly. Of coures it was all an act. Dean wasn't the alcoholic lounge singer. Sammy wasn't the oppressed black Jewish man and Frank wasn't the mafia Don. Well, not the Don anyway! I hope..
Right, Sinatra was a perfectionist when it came to his craft, but Dean just sang the songs the way he knew how had fun and sounded great. Totally different styles. Frank sang songs that Dean couldn't and they were mainly the songs that told a story. Well, maybe he could but I doubt if his presentation would have been as good as Sinatra's.
I remember listening to a Frank Sinatra channel on Napster. If there was a good song with good musicians, he wanted to be on it.
In an interview with Deana Martin, she was recalling a conversation that she had as a young lady with her "Uncle Frank", where she asked him about his singing style. He talked about breath control, phrasing, using his diaphragm, etc. She said, "Oh, is that how my dad does it?" Frank said, "No. Your father has no idea what he is doing, he just opens his mouth and that's what comes out." Two TOTALLY different singers and styles.
Good thing I scrolled down through the comments. I was about to relate that story before I found your post. As I recall the story, Deana went to Frank for advice. After he explained some particular vocal techniques, and Deana asked if her dad knew that, Frank said, "No, he has no idea what he's doing. He's just a natural."
Dean wins. He doesn’t even have to try
You have a tin ear. Unbelievable
@@fidge54 Frank was limited. Dean could sing Italian songs, Country, Pop and a better actor despite Frank’s Academy award. Frank could be Frank and that’s it. Frank never did an album in a whole different style the Dean could. Dean was a decent human being as well.
I was never a Dean Martin fan until I saw him in Rio Bravo... I still sing that song
"It's not called slurring your words, it's called talking in cursive, and it's !@#% elegant."- Dean Martin.
Did he actually say that? I love it!
A quote future generation will not understand since they no longer teach cursive.
For me personally, i love both but its Dean's voice i adore most of the two, it's the nonchalance he has that makes him so smooth and soothing, no wonder that women swooned after him like bees to honey lol.
The trio of Frank, Dean and "Mr. Bojangles" Sammy Davis Jr. (please do him next! preferably .. Mr. Bojangles because that song was him) was basically one hell of a power trio who played of of each other perfectly, truly the great's of the era.. but also today they are still considered as some of the greatest performers we had.
Fil going crooner, i like it, i like it a lot ;)
I'd like to see Sammy's 'Mr. Bojangles' compared with the rendition by the song's writer, Jerry Jeff Walker, who died last year. Walker was primarily a folk/country singer of songs written by others; 'Mr. Bojangles' was one of a small number of originals.
@@CathalBui ooh, i didnt not think of that option, i like it :D
Dean was influenced by Harry Mills, and he had the Mills Brothers on his show a lot. You can hear it when they sing together - and you can see how much he enjoys it.
Bing Crosby influenced Martin more than anyone!
@@filmmekker Same with Frank Sinatra. Bing Crosby was his favorite singer. Bing was older than those guys. He influenced a lot of the Italian crooners that came out later.
Tony Bennett credits Bing as his first big influence.
To me both are good but it seems Dean has that natural born God given talent and if I was asked who I wanted to listen to it would be Dean ever time. ;)
Here too...Dean every time!
As Fil always says:" Music is subjective"
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Dean was one of my all time favorites. He often would bent into the notes sliding into pitch and of course all the glissando as well as his relaxed timing. It was not that he could not sing perfectly or as well as Frank, it was just his style. And it was so effective. He was interviewed once where he explained that he had to learn to do that and create his signature style and tone. He truly was unique. The sad part of his career was the drunk Schtick. He was not a drunk according to his friends but it almost became such a part of his act that it really made him less of a singer and more of an caricature. And Jerry Lewis didn’t help him either .
The sliding is why I liked Dean more,his voice was so smooth and organic sounding.He always seemd so happy singing.
You can actually hear Dean's smile. I can picture him at a house party, leaning against the piano with a drink in his hand, just enjoying himself. What joy! Thanks for breaking this down.
Love the fact that Fil appreciates so many styles so different from his own genre. He's a true musician's musician 👍
The best thing about Dean is that, as he sings, you can hear him smile. Infectious!
More Dean vs Frank comparisons pls! It’s so interesting learning about their different vocal styles!
This song suits Dean Martin's strengths better. His easy going fun loving persona is a perfect fit. Sinatra has a wider variety of strengths. He has a larger emotional range (his sad songs are actually my favorite), he has extremely nuanced rhythmic phrasing, and a voice that can range anywhere from brash to very gentle and intimate. Both singers would be demolished by tuning, as vibrato, glissando, and pitch were extremely fine tuned and all of the microtonal motions are very important to their artistry. I haven't enjoyed much popular music in the last 20 years or so while I enjoy a quite a bit of popular music from the 1930s onward. It's not a coincidence that the creation of vocal tuning coincides with me enjoying drastically less music. It sounds worse to me. Less expressive, less flexible, more monotonous, and even boring. It's nice you've been showing people pitch so they can learn more about this.
I totally agree with you. Nothing to add or change. I love both singers, but Sinatra's voice is top 1.
Enjoy listening to both of these crooners. Dean is more relaxed & sounds like he has had a drink or two. He was nicknamed "The King Of Cool". Frank's voice is also smooth & pleasant to listen to. They both sound really natural, like it takes no effort. Both are winners. It actually sounds more pleasant to the ears if the notes are not hit exactly all the time & showcases the individuality of the voice & the mood. Frank & Dean were part of the famous Rat Pack in the 50's-60's.
@LvLeigh11 Yes I remember that. But he actually was not a heavy drinker in real life.
@LvLeigh11 The drink was apple juice. Dean's son confirmed that.
@Dagmar S. Dean had a reputation for drinking, though he wasn't a drinker.
@@sydludwig1826 Yes I know. It was more of an act.
When Martin & Sinatra sang together it was pure magic. The Christmas Special they did together was amazing. They had more fun than the audience.
Having just watched a bio documentary on Dean Martin and listening to his Christmas cd, your video is timely. I watched his tv show as a kid and I smile every time I hear him. He really knew how to reach people.
When it comes to singers with a relaxed style, an analysis of Perry Como would be welcome.
The man who invented casual
Perry is a harder sell. He comes off as just too white-bread bland. Bing had a bit more kick, especially in his early recordings and jazz with Louis and others.
Matt Monro could be added in there as well.
Team Dean! Never been a Sinatra fan. Not putting him down, just never was interested enough in him. Dean Martin was fun, laid back and cool!
Loved this. And for a moment I was sitting beside my grandmother, watching Dean's show with her. She loved him. And I did too.
Taking for granted Frank was a brilliant talent, I was more partial to Dean's delivery if not the voice itself. Love Dean's version of Memories are Made of This. Dean's whole persona was just cool as opposed to being pompous as Frank sometimes could be. Really liked Dean's acting too. Dean was a very sober family man too. That whole drinking and carousing and smoking thing was just a persona he effected. You should check out Bing Crosby and go deep a bit. He was so much more than White Christmas, had a hell of a range.
Dean seemed "cooler" to me than Frank. Hipper. He was a real symbol of the 60's!! Just too cool...lol.
@@maryruggiero2884 My son was about 3 and absolutely loved the Dean Martin show. I confess I did too.
As you said, Dean was a sober family man, but his public persona was as one who is always a bit tipsy with a ubiquitous drink in his hand. This persona translated to his singing in the style shown in this video, as very cool, couldn't be bothered to sing it perfectly, and perhaps slightly off as if from being slightly tipsy.
@@pamspurgers3578 I love hearing I'm not the only one that favored Dean! Does your son still love ol' Dean?
I read several years ago that Memories are Made of This was intended to by sung with an orchestra. The track we are all familiar with was a warm up with backup singers and guitars and it was so good, that was the version that was released. I don't know if that's true but I love Dean's version.
These analyses are very entertaining - and addictive!
Keely Smith I really love her sound too, crafted in clubs and Las Vegas with Louis Prima band.
Frank is quoted as saying'I worked hard with a vocal coach, for what Dean walked on stage and did naturally'
Huge Dean Martin fan here! Fil, when you said it almost seems like Dean was leaning back singing, I chuckled. Watch his old show, he would do just that...even lying on top of a grand piano. Drink in 1 hand, cigarette in the other. Handsome, talented, and the coolest guy on earth.
I think this explains why enjoy Dean, it's not the relaxed speed or even his pitch, it's the timbre and the tone of his voice I like. As others have stated in their comments, that the two were friends and Dean's personality shines in his style, you've explained in an analysis of Adele's vocals and how she wasn't really on the notes, yet the response of the emotional impact is undeniable. Didn't persuade me to like Frank more or to feel Dean was inferior in anyway. Thanks for the comparison.
Adele is horrible compared to Sinatra
Excellent visual comparison. Ella Fitzgerald did a Christmas song. It was said she had great phrasing. How about a video on her vocal performance?
Yes, Ella!
Loved her version of frosty the snowman
I would like a video on one of Ella's great duets with Louis Armstrong.
Ella is one of my favorite, together with Sara Vaughn, Lena Horn, Billy Holiday...
Dean is flirting while he sings. The phrasing, the slides, the enunciation of words. He ‘winks’ to the pretty girls in the audience through song. Just a different style.
Please do Bing Crosby. Then some women ‘crooners’ Rosemary Clooney, Peggy Lee, Ella. Dont forget Karen Carpenter. Would your contraption be able to analyze trios like Andrew Sisters?
Dont mind me, I am a vintage non auto tune era gal.
Yes, please do EARLY Bing Crosby 1931-1932.
Loved them both...I think they complemented and enjoyed one another. Truly fun video, you are so good at this, showing, illustrating, explaining, demonstrating!!!! Both Dean and Frank seem to be singing in service of the song, not showing how fancy their vocals can be. Thanks, Fil!
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Fil, you continue to blow me away with your analysis and the wave form. These are two of my favorite male singers (Linda Ronstadt is my favorite female artist), and seeing this comparison is absolutely awesome. Your understanding of what is going on is also amazing, and you can often sing the section you are talking about to make it real clear to us. I can completely see how you explained Dino being relaxed compared to frank, and yet they both have amazing voices. My wife really LOVE Dino and Johnny Mathis, and I think it has to do with how they both sound so relaxed and have that warm, inviting story to tell. Thanks for listening to these two greats, and with the same song to make the comparison really strong. Well done!
How do you go about picking such great singers to listen to? I still cannot get over your analysis of Linda Ronstadt.
Dean Martin daughter Deana like to tell the story of when the 2 familys did a Dean Martin Christmas in 68 together. Deana and Frank daughter Tina was getting ready to sing with their dads Deana was really nervous and she ask Frank standing by her " how he knows he going to hit the right note" . Frank said he just take a deep breath, he knows before it even before it comes out if he is on key.
Then she ask him if that's what her father did, Frank said " No he just do it, he don't have any idea what he is doing". That relaxing voice of Dean is so fun to listen too.
Thank for your video . They was so close to each other their kids called the other uncle Frank or uncle Dean.
The most amazing thing about these guys, Frank, Dino and Bing was that they sounded great acapella.
But Bing is my Fav, hope you do one on him.
Bing was amazing. Love his very smooth rumbling style.
Thank you so much for doing this! When I left my comment requesting this after listening to Frank, I didn't think that there was a big chance that you would do it. However, I started reading the comments after I left mine and there were many people who had the same idea! I was blown away when I saw the notification that you were doing this and I really loved it! You explain to me so well, the difference between their voices. I knew Dean sounded more relaxed, but now I know why. I also knew that he would slide into notes like Frank did, but I didn't quite understand the difference. Your explanation was fantastic! Some people would say that the reason Dean Martin sounds so relaxed is because he drank so much. However, what they don't know is he didn't drink alcohol at all! He just pretended to! Thank you again, fantastic job!
They were both great singers but Dean sounds much more approachable and warm.
Do a study on Frank Sinatra's major competitor in the '30s -- Bing Crosby. Analyze how well Bing gets to and maintains his notes. :D
Yes, agree.
YES BING! And Andrew Sisters!
Sinatra wasn't really around professionally until 1939 with Harry James - more the Forties and Fifties I would say Georg. Sinatra said that Bing was 'the father of my career...' when Crosby died in 1977. However, he did realise that there were many imitators and early on (consciously) moved away from Bing's style to longer phrasing etc. Love them both and also Dean. A good comparison would be to pick out two songs from High Society (1956) since they both appeared and also sang in it - actually together in 'What A Swell Party This Is' or two ballads from it, such as '(I Love You) Samantha' (Crosby) and 'You're Sensational' (Sinatra). Just a thought...for a real treat you get all three of these great singers here ! czcams.com/video/9Gw8RDOGfKk/video.html Best wishes...
Good idea. If you listen to Crosby's voice in the 1930s his voice had a higher range than later in his career. His voice deepened over time. There are quite a few videos of Bing in the 1930s singing with Paul Whiteman's orchestra.
Great analysis. Kudos for your willingness to sing also alongside Frank and Dean. Maybe Rat Pack is being re-imagined. Great to hear this side of your skills.
Dean’s voice had so much more character and substance. It’s croony playfulness and sensual drawl make it one of my favorite voices of all time. It was an intimate voice - one that you almost felt was just for you because you could feel everything he sang.
And when they were on stage together, my eye was always drawn to Dean. So much so that I almost forgot Frank was there. For years I thought this was just me but the more people I spoke to I found it to be the case with many others too.
Dean was the man.
women like dean martins looks more but Sinatra was a much better artist and singer. Dean Martin made everything a joke when at times joking is not appropriate sometimes its good to do a serious song
@@dltguitar6532 I disagree entirely. I think Dean was humorous at the right times and serious at the right times. I also think his voice had so much more character and intimacy.
This is just amazing! Thank you so much. You can’t help but smile listening to Dean because you can just hear the cheekiness. I’m pretty sure there’s a Frank quote somewhere that echoes a lot of these comments about how he had to work hard to become a good singer, but for Dean, it was effortless. Would love to hear your take Bing Crosby and Nat King Cole!
And Perry Como who was one of my favorites. (I was a little girl then even I'm dating myself.)
Yes please ! Nat King Cole...?
So many great ones, I would mention the irreplaceable Tony Bennett, but where do you stop?
That was fun.
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I love them both... But Dean.... Oh God! I fell his voice in my body, in my soul. Frank is out of this world but sometimes his perfect technique covers the emotions of the song a little bit. That's why i LOVE the Columbia years because he was so young and pure.. I can feel that. Two giants, two legends of music, show business and cinema!! Unbeatable talents!!!!
I was never a Sinatra fan, singer or actor, but I had a big crush on Dean. Not with Jerry Lewis, but in Dean's other movies, his variety show, and appearances were very enjoyable. He had a style that was more relaxed, often joking that he was drunk while performing.
Marvelous analysis of how Dean Martin achieves his incredible delivery of vocals. I wish folks these days understood what a wonderful talent Dean was, whether singing, acting, or performing comedy. He was a mega-superstar in his day, who is still a treat to watch and/or listen to now. Pity we lost him on Christmas Day, 1995. (Personal aside: I proposed to my wife on Christmas Eve, 1995, while Dean Martin was playing in the background. True story!) Thanks, Fil. Love your videos!
Dean was blessed with an incredibly beautiful voice---truly, an instrument. Frank had a very good voice and an intense dedication to singing well.
Both were great.
I liked Dean more because he seemed to sing with no effort. He seemed never to "force" a note; rather, it was as though he simply and graciously _allowed_ the notes to go forth from his instrument in a completely relaxed, natural manner. The notes were there, waiting, and when the time was right, he gave them to the world.
Frank sounds more refined and practiced while Dean just instinctively belts them out. The difference is that there are some songs, not all, that Frank absolutely owns while everything Dean sings sounds great. I like both singers even though they are as different as night and day.
For instance, on :"you're nobody till somebody loves you" Dean totally destroys Sinatra. On that particular song, it's no contest whatsoever.
@@bradhuskers one of my favorite songs. Dean Martin all the way!
Good way to put it. I was on a Dean Martin marathon a few weeks ago and never got tired of his velvet voice. It's about as soothing a voice as I've heard. I've never felt like having a Sinatra marathon. But there are some songs Sinatra is just iconic on and no one could have that impact.
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So true. On some songs, Sinatra is absolutely perfect.
"Fly me to the moon" for example.
And too many other iconic recordings to mention.
Dean has that smooth velvet tone that instantly draws you in. Two great artists
Frank never ever made me cry. Elvis certainly can. Dean is so warm. Frank approaches his song with all the emotion of a non involved surgeon..great on technique but no soul.
I enjoy when you analyze these old recordings very much.
Dean's smile notes are his trademark...he makes a musical phrase sound like his best friend
Wow, you do an incredible job explaining this. I find this so interesting, as these are two of my favorite singers.
Great Analysis! I think young and old Tom Jones would be a great subject for next video.
Very cool seeing the difference between these 2 great voices.
I have always liked Dean's voice. A perfect song for the winter covid seasons, and it's snowing here.
The only problem with Dean is the material he picked, especially in that period in the 60’s snd 70’s with the background singers. Love them both.
I always felt that Dean was always having fun with his singing and not too concerned if he was not sounding serious. No...I have not listened to every single song that Dean has sung, but I have heard many of them over my 70 years, and I do not specifically remember hearing one ( maybe Everybody Needs Somebody Sometime ), where it sounded like he was really trying to be serious.
He perfected his "drunk with a cigarette hanging from one hand and a half empty liquor glass in the other; slurring his speech and acting silly " routine so well, that maybe I could not separate that persona from his singing.
I, like so many other people, thought that Dean was really drunk in his show and was always a drunk and a woman chaser. But many years later, I found out that Dean was never drunk on his show ( he had apple juice or something similar in his glass ), and was a devoted family man and husband. My respect for his amazing talent to pull that persona off and his devotion to his family went sky high..!!
And if you want to watch Dean do his thing and laugh so hard that you will fall out of your seat; look up the Johnny Carson show in 1969 where Johnny's guests were Dean Martin, Bob Hope, and George Gobel. After George Gobel comes out is when the real fun begins. You will not be disappointed...!!! czcams.com/video/K9lis3lCo9s/video.html
Correction. It's "Everybody loves somebody sometime " Not, everybody Needs somebody sometime
@@donaldperez7981 ...Ooops, you are correct...my mistake...I will claim "senior moment" for that slip of the pen...or rather keyboard...LOL..!!
I had the privilege to have seen Frank Sinatra and Dean Martin together at the Latin Casino dinner theater in Cherry Hill NJ in the early seventies. Amazing show by two legends.
My father always said Dean’s voice was like a trombone, and Frankie he called him was more of a trumpet, lol. Pat Boone was good friends with Dean, he said he really wasn’t a drinker but made that persona, kept iced tea in his glass.
Maybe this was why Dean Martin's song Volare was on the juke box *and got regular playtime, at the college pub, despite the generational difference. Foosball and Dean.
Of course, it's also fun to sing along to the Volare chorus!
There's no competition at all. It's Dean Martin 1000%
This is like a music class! I LOVE IT! Thank you!
Love em both, but there is something about Deans phrasing and tone that just makes me prefer him. He sounds like he is harmony with the music. The King of Cool!
Dean wins, also as a person. Coolest guy.
Fil before talking shop, I just want to wish you a Happy New Year and may it be healthy and prosperous and for the awesome videos. Personally I always tended to listen more Dean than Frank perhaps because my mom had all his albums. His voice was a treat to listen to due to his control and effortless shifts. Thank you. 🎉2022.
Two BIG names!! Dean from Steubenville, Ohio and Frank from Hoboken, N.J. Each have fantastic voices and I am so glad you are doing this video. Artists like you Fil, are keeping music alive. Keep posting sir and I will continue to watch and support your effort. Pleasant Holidays to you and all your followers❤️🧑🎄✌️
Not long ago, I went to Hoboken, NJ. Just about each and every store sells some type of knickknack--e.g. magnet, keychain, etc.--with a photo of a young Frabk Sinatra and the words: "Hoboken's Favorite Son." It's not far from New York City if you happen to be in that area.
@@glamgal7106 Yup. Born in Trenton,N.J. We are very proud of Springsteen and Sinatra. Not much else going for us.
Both Martin's and Sinatra's singing styles always appeared to be a reflection of their personalities. Martin was more laid back, but Sinatra's personality has been described as being enterprising, ambitious and determined.
That could even be polite
@@valeriataylor8337 That opens up a whole ‘nother, and inappropriate conversation for Fil’s channel.
Yes. Their singing was enjoyable for them and that just flows through to the listener.
"I did it my way" seemed to pack everything into 5 words. Ever word of ever song meant something.
You do a great job breaking it down. Me personally I like Dean's voice better though Frank obviously had the bigger career with the "establishment" behind him. Your explanation of how one feels by the way the singer sings along with your previous Elvis video now tells me why one is so taken in with emotion on any Elvis song. Thanks again
These are amazing. I didn't know how Frank and Dean sang. I didn't know Dean sang on key as much as he really did. He always sounded kind of sloughy to me. They sang so well together. We don't have singers like Frank and Dean anymore. Everyone seems to against each other than being friends and being close. Thank you Fil for doing these. Stay safe and see you Friday.
When Dean sang 'Retorna Me' or 'Memories are made of this' there may have been no topping him, much as I love Sinatra's voice and his arranging skill.
Fil, I wonder if you've ever taken a bit of time to look at Elvis' Gospel music. He really put his heart into it.
Frank actually tries to sing, Dean just opens his mouth and the words just kind of roll out.
I love this paired analysis of Dean and Frank!! To my ears, Dean is smiling much more throughout his vocal delivery which gives any song of his more loft and great Vibes!! Many thanks, Fil, I enjoy your keen observations and sense of Humour!! 👋😎👍
Thanks man, I'm glad you know what you are talking about and deliver educated breakdowns. I've always liked Dean's voice more than Frank's, but enjoy both vocalists and yeah the moods they create are so different and it's ultimately my mood that decides which one I'm turning on. Now how about ol Bing Crosby who influenced both of these cats early on?
Two absolutely great singers; two different stylistic approaches. Thanks for contrasting these two giants. This shows again how the "produced" auto-tune or pitch correction approach may be an interesting effect, but great singers make great music, without the need for "adjustments". Like Dean shows, the song and the style may mean the most important element is the feeling, whether that means singing under the pitch, glissandi, syncopation or other vocal fireworks. I'd like to think that you would get a "like" from Frank and Dean for this.
If these guys were brass instruments, Dean would be a slide trombone and Frank a trumpet. It’s also nice hearing them sing without the huge orchestra. Thanks for posting. Happy New Year🍾
What a wonderfully apt comparison of their voices! Thanks!
Neat analogy
I'm learning so much! Thanks Fil!
This is genius idea. I've never seen anything like before. Everyone wonders how singers compare. There are undoubtedly a lot of things to compare but this is an excellent start. Thanks.
Fil! I have been having such a blast with you, learning and enjoying, infuriated (auto tuning) and laughing. This channel is an educational hoot! Dean-o is so awesome, and such a perfect example of what a gem we would have lost were auto tuning something that pervaded the music industry as long ago as this recording. I have been sick for almost a year, and sometimes I get a little punchy waiting to get better. Thank you for such an invigorating, sweet, fun channel handling so many different artists and genres. You are the best doctor!
Great comparison. They are both great. Dean Martin also changes up the words a little bit at the end of a couple of lines. This adds to the relaxed feel.
Merry Christmas and HAPPY NEW YEAR to all. Love you FIL.
Great video. So Dean was a more emotional singer and Frank a more technical singer, it seems. Doesn’t mean Dean wasn’t technically capable neither does it mean Frank was totally unemotional.
Best and most accurate comment in this comment thread. I wholeheartedly agree with you.
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Good job! Thank you!!
*PLEASE* now do a similar job of analyzing *JOHNNY MATHIS* also singing *'LET IT SNOW! LET IT SNOW! LET IT SNOW!'*
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Mathis is by far my favorite crooner ever - and for a long time, he was the ONLY crooner I appreciated. Johnny had a fantastic voice with (I believe) incredible control. So I would *LOVE* to see how the Mathis voice stacks up visually with Sinatra's and Martin's voices.
I always said you could hear Dean smiling during his songs.
I think I'd rather hear YOU sing than analyzing! I'm a retired professional violist, and I grew up listening to these guys. At one point in a musician's life, he/she wants to know how another does it. At 75 years of age, I know that there's room, in this world for EVERYBODY 'S voice, as long as it's authentic!
Another great study Fil. Many thanks and have a brilliant New Year and 2022.
These videos are opening up a whole new world to me. 😍
Besides being relaxed, I think there is also a great deal of story telling in Deans voice. When he starts "Oh, the weather outside is frightful", it's like he's really telling us something. Yes - laid back in an armchair. It's like a late night conversation. But anyway - seen in print it's not the best lyrics ever written. But Dean manage to make them much more interesting.
Luved luved Dean Martin. So glad that I grew up during the time of his music. He and it hold a special place in my heart. ❤️
This was superb!
That era of song spinners was like no other.
Dean Martin is a favorite of mine. I think I know why now. Another favorite is Ella Fitzgerald. Perhaps you can tell me if she also sang flat.
Thank you! Happy new year 🎊
God Bless.
Great analysis. Check out Dean Martin´s live performance of "By the time I get to Phoenix", he´s actually laying back on a couch masterfully delivering the song. For Frank I think really showed off his voice when he sang ballads, I recommend checking out his album "Where are you".