Can I Be Gay and Catholic? (w/ Kim Zember)
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- čas přidán 19. 08. 2019
- When people ask Kim Zember the question, “How can I be gay and Catholic?” she responds with the question, “Why is ‘gay’ coming before your Christian identity?”
Through her ministry, Overcome, (overcomemin.com/) Kim helps people with same-sex attraction overcome those desires and know they’re not alone. Central to overcoming that desire is denying ourselves, as Christ said:
“If any man would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me” (Matthew 16:24).
Kim knows what it’s like to have homosexual desires, and encourages those who have any kind of disordered sexual desire to go to Jesus and say, “Lord I surrender this desire to you.”
As St. Paul writes to the Corinthians:
“We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ” (2 Corinthians 10:5).
Sinful thoughts are not sins until they lead to your giving into them, she says. What usually causes us to give in to them are their lies and false promises. Sinful sexual desires lie to us by saying they will make us happy, but giving into them never gives a lasting joy.
Kim suggests trying some things that will give us lasting joy, like Mass, community, authenticity, confession, and adoration (time in silence with God).
If you are struggling with disordered sexual desires, God is calling you to something more. He has called you to be fully alive. Do not identify yourself as your desires. Let God give you your identity.
Also check out Unforgotten Faces, Kim’s ministry to widows and orphans in Ethiopia - www.unforgottenfaces.org/
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This is off-topic, but I feel it's a credit to this channel that they don't disable comments. They choose to let the conversation take place. Good on ya Ascension Presents.
Derek Everett I find this video pretty appalling. Your post would be the most positive thing I could say, if I had the presence of mind to say it. Thank you for the reminder. I shall have to listen to this video a couple more times and ponder. It is a given that it won’t be a rave review, but it needs to be a just review.
Stephen Golden my dude how do you find anything appalling about this video??
ThomasMahonMovies 😂 Lol. How do I find anything that is not? This is why I must take my time and diligently search for something positive. I am confident of a Eureka moment.
@@powerliftingcentaur You didn't actually say why it was bad you just said it was bad again.
Seth N, More to follow. I want to think this over carefully. My fundamental problem with the woman giving her testimony is that I believe it is a minority opinion in the extreme, being the antithesis of what most LGBT Catholics experience and believe. My problem with Jackie is that she is committed to an official Church teaching that does not appear to me to admit dissent or allow for its public discussion. I am taking my time in answering the video, as I neither wish to question the validity of the speaker, Kim’s, personal experience, nor disparage Jackie’s commitment to her Church, which is my Church too, when all is said and done.
I just want to say to those of you that have these attractions and haven’t heard this before from The Church, you are loved and welcome. Perhaps parishioners at your parish may not welcome you but God does and there are so many of us who love you too! ♥️
You're loved and welcome as long as you don't act on the desires that god gave you and not me.
Brian H God doesn’t only love the perfect. He came for the sinners. He loves us unconditionally (no condition). We are all sinners. Even if you are messing up, you are still welcome. The Church would be empty if only the non-sinners would come. You are loved.
So, god made some less sinful than others? People don’t have control over their sexual orientation. One of the “seven holy sacraments” is marriage. If I’m not attracted to the opposite sex because of the way god made me, then god made me so I can’t partake in one of the holy sacraments. How does that work?
Brian H God didn’t make us sinful. We have free will. We’re the ones that choose sin. Like Kim explains it’s the action not the attraction that is sin. I’m not allowed to partake in the sacrament “Holy Orders” because I was created a woman... does that make me less loved?? No. We are called to live out holiness with our flaws. Fr Josh said not too long ago at an event, “Being perfect doesn’t make you Holy. It’s never giving up trying to become better that makes us Holy.” I hope that helps 😊
jeffry gagnon Sorry sir, don’t know what you’re trying to tell me... could you explain more pls?
"Do not identify yourself as your desires. Let God give you your identity" What a wonderful explanation. God bless you.
totally agree, there is a lot to our thoughts, desires, obsessions, praying and meditating and healing with God reveals so much about ourselves, granted some of us need to share with those we trust to help find the true definitions of ourselves and what God is actually calling for each of us.
So if I desire to love, you are saying I shouldn’t identity myself as a loving person?
Beautiful thank you
Like your identity as one who seeks the approval of others before your self?
Don't people still identify as LGBT even if they are celibate? What's the difference in identity?
Ironically, as a single straight man, this helped me alot as well with some of my own struggles. God bless you all.
As a single straight woman, this helped me too. We are human, we were given choice, we are being called to be true and belong to God.
The Archivist Same here....I’m an drug addict in recovery, (opiate painkillers) and I know all about disordered affections......I have been clean for five years, but there are times where I STILL feel unworthy of Christ’s love because I’m a “ junkie” and will be the rest of my life... I thank GOD EVERY DAY for having lost the desire to use and for the restoration in my life that Jesus has allowed me to have......😢
@@immaggiethesenilegoldenret7918 we will pray for you!
@@immaggiethesenilegoldenret7918 Will pray for you. Hold your head high you can continue do it and God keeps watch over you. My daughter-in-law, who I love so very much, has been down that road.
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I am impressed with these two ladies. Making a video of a subject that really needs to be talked about. I am so glad that you left the comments section open. I have a similiar story. I was in the LGBTQ community for over 25 years. I have walked away. I now realize I was looking for God in all the wrong places. My life was stagnant, and falling apart. I said a few of my friends I think I am cursed. Started searching on youtube for professionals that could help. I found Father Ripperger, an exorcist and all his videos realizing that I was in a spiritual battle. I returned to the Church, went to Confession and made a thorough soul searching confession. I received sanctifying Grace and received Holy Communion and have taken the presence of God within me. I feel at peace. As St. Augustine stated in his book The Book of Confessions, everything sparkles when you turn your back on God and will bring you to destruction. As we are searching and searching we found outlets that lie and make everything exciting but in reality that is the devil. The devil does not show up in a red suit and a pitchfork but is cunning and sly ways and I was taken in. I am now in my church community, regularly reinforced in my faith with weekly Mass, sometimes more, saying the Holy Rosary daily, following the Ten Commandments and working daily on improving my virtues by denying and overturning the Seven Deadly Sins. When I look back on my life now in the past it was almost as if I thought I was God. God has made my life quite simple. By guving the Ten Commandments, the Seven Deadly Sins and a whole Community of Priests who have made it their life's work to become Bible Scholars. I trust these scholars whi are real Doctorates in their profession. I am no longer a OPPOSITIONAL DEFIANT TEENAGER subverting everything the Church and the US Culture stands for. God made it simple but gave us free will to either choose to follow Him or not. It wasn't until the pain in my life brought me to my knees out of despiration that I returned to my God who was waiting patiently for my return. For anyone that has gone through similiar things WELCOME HOME.
Welcome home, bro. I used to think about being a girl will be much better than being a boy but now, the shape of man god give to me is a beautiful gift God ever gave to me. I pray to God everyday to find my real answer, God send me a lot of man friends and teach you to take care and build my muscle body. Now, I don't regret to live as a man like God intend, he want me to be come a perfect man to protect girl not to be girl, learn to become calm like a man. In the end, the sin is gone and I continue to live like God intend me. It is a shame for those people to reject God gifts. May God bless you on your life journey.
Thanks for sharing and welcome home ❤❤
If I'm not supposed to identify with my sexuality than how come 90% of these conversations about people with SSA are only about sex? There's so much more to being attracted to the same gender than sex. How about how it impacts friendships? Family? Feeling close to people? Discerning a vocation? Showing up in the world? Being allowed to serve the Church? What if Catholics set aside the topic of sex for one of these conversations and just talked about the struggles of day-to-day life as someone who identifies as LGBTQ?
Maybe because you can be LGBT while being a Catholic just like you can be disabled while being a Catholic. But you can't act on it (sex) and etc..
Perhaps your problem is that you automatically connect sex with love and attach that to your identity. We're called to love our neighbor, we're not called to have sex with them. Just because you experience same sex attraction doesn't mean you have to make that your identity. I don't identify as a fornicator, I've had sex outside marriage, but I don't wave a flag and make that my identity. I've confessed it, I've given it to God and I'm not engaging in it, so why should I make it my identity? Learn to separate love from sex. And no, love is not love, the ancient Greeks had something like 7 words for love, only one was sexual.
Step 1: Identify ONLY as what God made you: a) if you are a man: a man for a woman, b) if you are a woman: a woman for a man, or c) a religious (priest, sister, brother). Fight and win that battle (with the help of the power of God) through prayer and fasting.
2) Do not feed any image of you that is not God's plan for you. Do not identify with anything ungodly. Do not see or watch anything ungodly.
3) Study as deeply as necessary, through the Scriptures, in prayer and fasting, what God made of you. Listen to the "Naked Without Shame" recordings...they are excellent.
4) Start to get to know many people of the opposite gender. Look into developing into what most people of the opposite desire from you.
5) If you have to leave your country to find love of the opposite gender, do it. Then, get to know someone of the opposite gender...date them lovingly. Give the relationship time to gel. Be patient with them.
I'm so glad to hear from people experiencing same sex attraction first hand. It's so much more effective than hearing it from someone who doesn't have to walk the walk. There should be more such content, thank you for sharing!
Just a shame that this cult is discouraging it…
Dear Kim - what an amazing testimony. THANK YOU! As a man who has lived with same sex attraction for most of my life - I'm finally turning the corner and surrendering my life to Jesus. Also, will be inducted into the Confraternity of the Holy Rosary this Saturday. Super-excited and grateful. God Richly Bless You in your life, witness and journey.
Praying for you man!
God bless you!! Your celibacy is an enormous gift to the Church. Your goodness and obedience can convert many sinners of homosexuality, as well as heterosexuals who simply want lifelong chastity and virtue (like me).
@@supergene256 Thanks alot for the encouragement and kind words. Will keep you in my prayers as well. The Rosary is a really big deal - I think it's Mary, our Mother, who is helping me the most - but of course Jesus and Holy Spirit, always faithful and loving. Every single day is a day of conversion for me - I've fallen far too many times to feel confident, but I do feel the help and support from Heaven, cuz I can't do it on my own, that's for sure! God Bless, and thanks again. Praying for you too.
Good on you mate . Your an inspiration 👍
You are a son of Christ! You can be his warrior! That is what identifies you! We are not our sins. He made us good. Love from your sister in Christ! ❤❤❤❤❤
I'm a heterosexual person, but it is wonderful to hear Kim talking about our struggles and how the love of God gives us our true identity, and finding joy in following Jesus. Thank you so much!
so long as we never struggle with homophobia
Markel Beverley replied: "pastor brian something I struggle with. as a heterosexual male
PASTOR BRIAN; Offer up your homophobia to God to be healed.
@@pastorbri offer up your bigotry for people with different attractions than you
Man, this goes even further than homosexual attraction. Just temptations and desires in general. Very helpful.
Dang this went deep. Thanks so much for making this! It’s so relatable and so many of the points she made can work for any temptation in your life, not just sexual temptations
jeffry gagnon: It’s true humans LOVE making excuses and justifying their sinful actions. But I do think an important factor is that she’s denying herself and actively choosing to not give into homosexual behavior.
@@emberflash1641 And what exactly makes it bad to give into homosexual behavior? Could you maybe flesh that out, instead of just asserting that it's bad cuz god said so?
I love when you said I thought the world could make me happy but it lied to me. This is so true and real. Thank you for it.
My soul feels like it has taken a deep breath for the first time in years.
I haven't been active in the community for a long while, but recently when I felt the weight of all my problems crushing me, the Lord reached out to me. He grounded me when I couldn't ground myself.
My faith was weak. These really painful times had made me realize how little faith I had in Him.
Now, I am on my way to rediscovering, recovering, and reinforcing my faith.
I am thankful for this, truly. God bless you for sharing this.
There is so many of us who need guidance. Thank you!
WE are not our desires. So, we can feel desire for something sinful, but as long as we don't act on it, it's not a mortal sin (unless we revel in it and consciously nurture it in ourselves).
but love is not a sin to desire.
@@pastorbri When we love a person of the same gender it is called friendship(yess there are powerful loving friendships)
@@RodDop-us9ex just as when a man loves a woman it can also be a friendship (yes there are powerful loving heteo friendships too).....whats your point? Friendship love and romantic love are 2 different things, did you not know?
That's like saying cows aren't grass eaters.
I agree.
I'm catholic.
God is Not a religion.
God cares for all his children.
@VictoriousRainy Yuno What does the bible really say on the LGBT community go to my channel and watch my latest show. Please watch from beginning to end.
@@brotheresquire2776 what does the bible sayabout genocide? Do we find it ok to wipe out an entire tribe in the name of God? The old testament tells its o.k as long as you do it in the name of God....
@@jgappy5643 give me that scripture. . Where did God give us the right to commit genocide..
@@jgappy5643 not only will you not find it, but the old testament... That is a school master.. you are still in school with the world of the long ago past.. ( the now world is love thy enemy bless and not curse bless them that curse you).. You can't put new wine in an old sack, the old sack would taint the new wine... the god of love is also a god of war and a god of vengeance did you ever stop to think about why God had them Nations wiped out... There was a bigger picture.. They were mostly given to idolatry and abominations. And a few of those races were Giants..so yes.. Just like America
Inspirational. I have been in a celibate partnership for 16 years. You can have the joy of companionship without sexualizing it. You can be a gay Catholic. We are ALL called to celibacy unless married.
May I ask for a tip on how you do it? What are the rules? Is it just friendship or really a romantic relationship?
@@marmeelynsinocruz9461 Well, that's pretty personal. Maybe you could join a group and discuss such matters with others. I'd say this: true friendship is at the heart of any good relationship.
@@heathsavage4852 trying to traverse this with my partner and we dont really know where to begin.
@@marmeelynsinocruz9461 OK. That's tough. Have a talk with your priest. Mine was very helpful. Have to visited Miss Zember's website?
@@heathsavage4852 not yet. What's the link?
I cannot thank you enough. I feel like I needed to hear these words. I’ve been pushing God away recently because I’m ashamed of my desire, but He loves me and made me know this TRUTH through your words. I’m 20 yrs old and pretty active in my church and hear of young people who feel the same desire which keeps them from letting God in. I’m happy and thankful I now have answers for them that could possibly be of help. I pray for the youth, so they could fall in love with Jesus as He so much deserves.
God will never abandon you--even if church members do. On the day of your birth, God looked at what he had made--and it was very good.
Don’t be ashamed. God loves you and will always do. He is our father.
I am a daughter of Christ before anything else.
@@jeffrygagnon5506 lol
😂😂😂
@@juliemurphy9412 Pax Vobiscum
@@ammcroft no thanks babe
@@juliemurphy9412 EeeWwww! can you please not call me babe. It is sexist and I find it very offensive. I think you should lose your job. JK 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I am falling more and more in love with Catholicism and it’s core values. But I also pray for discernment. It’s healthy to wrestle with these things. I think blindly following along is quite dangerous and detrimental to one’s being and faith. To wrestle and question oftentimes leads to a deeper faith.
All those who earnestly seek the truth will find Him. Christ does not want you to become Catholic out of anything ‘blind’. Christ wants you to know and love the truth. Please know that you are in my prayers as you continue your journey!
you are welcome to the church brother
"It's constant surrender, dude"
I hope James Martin, SJ watches this video.. amazing. The church is a hospital for sinners, we are all sinners and need healing; nevertheless our sin is not to be celebrated or ignored. (Matthew 16:24) Thanks for speaking the truth with so much grace and love.
Yes. Even though a sinner can be Catholic, he/she must go to confession for all "mortal sins", to remain a communicant.
Brian Toribio, God strengthen and support a beleaguered James Martin, SJ.
Martin's book is great with a viewpoint that is supported by the church and would balance this presentation of one worldview.
Love "the Church is a hospital for sinners." I'm stealing that.
Agree. That priest has no fear of God and he needs to!
Wow! These three ladies are wonderful! (Mother Mary just behind you over your shoulder). So open, honest and wise.
This is an amazing witness, and so necessary at this time! Thank you for sharing
Wow, so so nicely said and felt! Battler to Battler, I thank you for me and my family! Pete D.---
I feel light after hearing this all my brain pain actually felt lighter for a moment
I felt a bit guilty when she said please do not waste the blood Jesus shed for your sins on Cavalry. Wowow that hit
Lol 😆😆
Being an out member of the LGBT community who left the church long ago, I did actually find this interesting to watch. You both seem very intelligent and are well spoken. I obviously don't agree with your view point, but we all won't ever agree on anything. That's just human nature.
That said, I found the way you spoke on this topic respectful and not necessarily negative towards the gay community in the way videos like these traditionally do. If you're gay religion isn't for you, but I don't think if you are, religion is worth denying that part of you. Because it won't last in the end. Never does.
Thanks for being open to discussion with us Catholics even if u don't agree, it means a lot, we all really appreciate it. ❤
Unsustainable
We must overcome our fleshly desires and follow God
Catholic, Protestant, or Orthodox.
Being tempted isn't a sin, but giving in to temptation is.
"Let Him define who you are."
Beautiful, beautiful, and such a powerful statement
I feel such a pull to convert to Catholicism but the issue of same sex attraction is the thing that really puts me off. I just can’t reconcile the idea that God wouldn’t bless or approve of something that is entirely rooted in love and goodness. I’m not talking about promiscuous sex, I’m talking about a true bond between two people committed to spend their lives together. How is love sin? It doesn’t make sense to me. I love God, love Jesus, find comfort in Mother Mary....I just can’t understand how God can’t accept love.
I think the problem is the confusion between love and sex. Don't forget that love isn't just sexual or romantic. Love for one's country for exemple. Sex and love are different thing and sex should never, must never concidered proof of love. There's many people out there have sex without love, so calling sex as proof of love is just beyond wrong.
If there's one thing I agree with our LGBT friends is that "love is love" they're right I'll give them that. But what is love exactly? Love is from and for everyone. Even the teachers back at school who constantly scold us for everything.
But once again, sex is not love. Is not a proof of love, it must never considered as one.
People often associate love with only three think (I think) acceptence, kindness and sometimes sex. What they often forget is that love is not just that, love is dicipline. And it is strict. Schools have rules and there's reasons for those rules, so that the student behave. Because the teachers love the student. Parents yell at their kids when they misbehave, if my mom never yelled at me who knows where I'll be right now.
To me personally this is what love is.
My 2 cents- there are more Catholics who support same sex love and marriage, than don’t. Ignore these “teachings”- Jesus was all about love. I’m trying to keep my comments kind, but this anti-lgbtq dialogue is sooo off point. Check out the new movie about how the word homosexual was literally added to the Bible in the 1940s. This teaching is just plain false.
@@wackylearnigwithjane454 no there aren't, and just because the word homosexual didn't exist, doesn't mean there wasn't a different word in its place meaning the same thing the idea that homosexuality wasnt condemned by the bible until the 40s is a myth
This conversation is so beautiful. Thank you.
Don't hate the person, hate the sin!
Sin is SIN! we all sinners! Help everyone to repent not encourage the sin!
God help us... 🙏
~Indonesian 🇮🇩 Catholic ✝️~
Absolute facts but it should never be allowed to be celebrated
Love is not a sin.
@@tarashek7865
Existing in peace is not the same as being celebrated.
@@Grokford so pedophiles arent a sin
@@tarashek7865
If you can not tell the difference between genuine Love and raping a child, then you are too far gone to have a serious discussion with.
"God loves you, He loves you, He loves you He loves you."
😢 thank you God 🙏💕
Repentance is a life long process!
The struggle between the flesh and the Spirit is never ending!
Jesus help me with your grace to walk with you EVERY DAY!
Amen. ✝️
Hey john, I wanted to point out a beautiful promise that is found in Galatians 5:16 - "So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh." What an awesome promise! Walking by the spirit does not mean that the battle with the flesh is never ending. He is so gracious and faithful to mold and shape us into his image - abiding in him does not mean striving
Thank you so much for sharing your story, Kim!
Kim, thank you for your vulnerability and your courage to speak truth regardless of any negative feedback. God bless you and Mary wrap Her mantle of protection around you!
Wow I am amazed how she can admit what other things she struggles with. Amazing!
5:25 - 5:30 “No one is free from sin apart from Jesus Christ” and the Blessed Virgin Mary as well !!!
Sam Smith True Christians know that Mary was in fact SINLESS.
Sam Smith If you insist on rejecting the Catholic Church then you should also reject the Bible. After all the Bible was compiled by the Catholic Church. Also you should leave whatever country you live in, given there’s almost certainly pedophiles living there.
jeffry gagnon show me the biblical quote that says Scripture alone.
@Anthony L That would be impossible Are you always a false accuser
Stop blocking my comments be a man
50 wow how do you really know? These clergy are pretty good at cover up If there are any true men of God in there they will get the heck out what has light to do with darkness! Romans 1:18-32
Sam Smith Whats your point? Any institution involving man is prone to corruption. We are all well aware of our fallen nature. Corruption in the Church does not invalidate the fact that the Traditional Catholic Religion was and is thee religion established by Christ, that which the Apostles and early church fathers adhered to. You cannot condemn an entire institution based on the actions of a few. Corruption is rampant everywhere in this modern world.
Thank you! The Bible says do not be afraid and yet I’ve been diagnosed struggling with OCD for years. This video gives me hope. Thank you again.
I was curious to hear that Kim is married. I've heard of other Catholics with same sex attraction getting married as well, and wonder about the challenges these couples face. I'd love to hear about that.
escabrosa1 Kim did another video with Jackie about her own story and it includes what happened to her marriage. Hope that’s helpful.
Getting married in the catholic church???
@@jeffrygagnon5506
They got divorced. Watch the other video.
@@jeffrygagnon5506 *sigh" She married *a MAN*.
if they are married to the opposite sex I'm guessing they must have developed at least some sort of heterosexual attraction. I don't know at that point if there is any challenge other than dating or marring someone else who is bisexual.
I love listening to this woman! She explains it all so well. And can I just say that Jackie you are so respectful towards your guests, you really let them speak. The Holy Spirit really shines through you both. 🙏🏻 God bless
She is beautifully grounded in Christ. Great video, thank you.
Wonderful video. God bless you and your work. I continue to learn more about my faith and love it everyday.
Recently I had a friend come out to me and that she had a girlfriend. I was incredibly happy to see her in a fulfilled relationship that was much more positive than the relationships she had with her previous boyfriends. I grew up catholic and love a lot of aspects about the religion, but I cannot bring myself to say her relationship is wrong. Maybe God created same sex attraction not so that we can deny acting on it, but so that we can learn to be more loving and accepting people?
yes i love this
This is a beautiful response.
Always check in with scripture if you want to know what God thinks about homosexuality. Romans 1:27 ; Leviticus 18:22-24 ; Leviticus 20:13 ; 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 ; Please read these passages with an open heart.
Sabrina I have some problems with the bible because it’s so old and it’s all from the perspective of men. I don’t mean to sound disrespectful. I’m a practicing Catholic myself and I want to remain Catholic, but when it comes to rules set by men who could have possibly twisted God’s words to promote their own agenda, I find it hard to trust.
@@helenarosno I can understand that, Helena. I always remember, that even if anyone malicious would have intended to twist Gods word - it would not change God himself. He is our loving Father who only wants us to come home, through accepting the Gospel. If you can find it in your heart to trust God, that's really all you need (imo). I might not like every word in the bible, but I hold His commandments because I have experienced first hand what my life looks like when I live it as I wish (lying, drinking, living ungodly..) and trust me, I have really tried to ignore God for all my life (30 years) until it was the last straw. The Bible was the only thing I haven't read, but it was the only thing I ever needed to read and understand and I am still in the process. I can HIGHLY recommend to check out the series "The Chosen" on CZcams. You'll love it :) All Episodes are free on CZcams and they will show you the loving and kind God we have. Wishing you all the best, a great summer & a wonderful life
I fell asleep and woke up here.
what in the world happened
This is very beautiful and brave sharing/testimony. May the Lord God bless your ministry.
This is brilliant!!! Thank you!!! God Bless you for this ministry! Set it afire and let it go!!! Come Holy Spirit!!!!😁👍
Can one be sinful and Catholic? Of course. But one will have to answer for their sins on judgement day.
yes the faith is a place for sinners, the church is the hospital for sins, and confession is your antidote
The church is filled with hypocrites. I am one of the most hip, so i need it! Only God will judge us in the end.
God is Mercy. Yes He is also judge, but more than that, He Is Mercy. Wash yourself with the blood and water of Jesus and let Him wash away your sins, and beg Mercy, and He will surely be Merciful. You will have no need for worry on judgement day!
@@markm.5756 *"You will have no need for worry on judgement day!"* -- How are you in the position to offer the guarantee?
@@D0csavage1 How am I in the position to offer the guarantee? Through Jesus' promise that He died for our sins, and if we believe He is the Son of God, Our Savior, we repent & are sorry for our sins, and TRUST IN HIS MERCY, we are guaranteed Eternal Life.
I believe in God, I love God. And i have to say it does hurt when I know I'll have to spend my future alone. Instead of sharing it and living one with (God in it) and someone to help me through it, why I would want to? Well...who wants to live life alone? Its torn me up, its lowered my self-esteem and its changed me as a person, as a *kid* knowing I've always been different. I know God is God...you cant change the way he is and his image. I can pull up scriptures and try my best to defend myself, and show how "booksmart" I am, but that's not really gonna get anyone anywhere. But I'm at a terrible moment in my life of confusion. I *truly* dont believe sharing a life with love of with someone who you truly love, is wrong? Am I wrong for that? Real question!
Infact feeling this way has pulled me so close to God. I'm only 16. I also think Kim's ways were different.. it interprets "same sexual behavior" ....I guess ...more as lust? She dated women while being married to a man, multiple. It kinda seems like a different situation....
Nevertheless this has shaped me into the person I am today, yeah i do believe God is still at work... and not trying to look like a victim or giving myself "self pitty" but compared to other crosses I truly think this is different...I hope we can all come to terms one day that this isnt your average sin or well even a sin, lust is.....and hopefully I can be with someone who I love, truly. Because that's also what we were made for love. "it is not good that man should be alone".... but that's just me, maybe what I believe is just wrong, I would love for someone else's thoughts on this....but all I ask is for help, and prayers. Because it's very stressful, its affected me my whole life, and right when I come to happy, or atleast in "not so negative terms". It doesn't stay long. Because I'm reminded that living atleast a somewhat normal life with someone and with God ofcourse will always just be a fantasy.
This is sad, and i too am confused and ask the same questions you ask. I feel for you, but all i can say is to pray to the Lord and ask him to answer your questions and guide you through the life He sees fit...i dont really know what else to say but I am praying for you and people in your case.
@@xeriffe8708 thank you very much, this is actually very comforting, because at the moment I feel alone.. regardless if I know I'm not, theres just no one to truly talk to ...thank you!
@@name-zu1ye you're welcome!! I get what you mean...and i dont really understand it either...hopefully there's a youth group or something of that nature at your church so you have a safe space? It's a heavy cross to carry...i wish you the best of luck!💗
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One thing you need to know is that the devil is going to lie and make you feel alone, and he’s going to make you feel like you’ll never be happy because (as he’ll say) “you can never have love”. The truth is, you’re not alone. And you’re not going to be. Real love, fulfillment, peace, and joy aren’t limited to only people who are in romantic relationships. There’s connection, authenticity, and acceptance to be found within deep friendships - everyone needs that.
Many people go single their whole lives, as priests or nuns or just someone who never gets married. But they’re not alone, or lacking real love or fulfillment. That’s what God calls them to, in order for them to live the best way for them personally to come to Him.
God knows you personally and He has a call for you personally. No one’s holiness looks the same. So trust His plan. Trust that He loves you and will take care of you. He will fulfill you. He won’t leave you alone and unloved. He wants you to be a saint so badly, that He gave you a difficult (but joy-filled) cross! He wants you with Him so badly. This is the path for you to get there, not the road block that will keep you away. He’ll provide all the love, support, fulfillment, and clarity you need throughout your whole life, if you’ll take His hand and just trust that He loves you and knows what He’s doing.
I hope that helps a little bit. Believe in His love and surround yourself with people who will show that Christlike love to you as well.
@@oliviarapavi1177 well said...took the words out of my mouth :)
So, since when did anybody choose their sexuality? Anytime some conservative challenges me on Homosexuality, i'd ask him/her, so since when did you choose to be straight?
We do not “choose” to be straight because it should not be a decision in the first place. God created man and woman to be partners and fulfill HOLY matrimony. The Bible isn’t a book of fairytales. You cannot be living a blessed life as a homosexual. Now if you are an individual who has no place in his heart for the Lord or no education on His teachings then I suggest you educate yourself before feeling so righteous about this question that is supposed to stump us conservatives.
Not to mention that many of us who do not condone homosexuality hate homosexuals. There are many reasons that people choose that life. However, it is a fight for souls. A fight for eternal life. Many times it is out of love for these people that we fight so hard to help them understand that this life and these worldly desires are not what matter. I have family members who choose to be homosexual and although they are wonderful beings it’s their soul I am worried about. Not their life on earth. If you have no sense of after life and how to live for that then it will always be hard to get through to you
@@catalinacabello1460 i agree with you👍
I love these ladies for sharing their views. They are sincere & wishes to save people from misery. I like the part "Do not identify yourself with your sexual attraction because you are God's child and you are more than your attractions or desires
7:58 "The truth and the love of Jesus Christ set us free." You have never said it more clearer! Not truth of Christ, not love of Christ, but both the truth and the love of Christ. Amen!
This video is extremely powerful. I will definitely rewatch this when I’m struggling. Thank you!
ABSOLUTELY YES ... the LGBTQ sector is some of the most devoted, passionate Christians you will encounter. Do not forget what Jesus said "I give you a NEW Commandment -- LOVE ONE ANOTHER (unconditionally), as I have loved you."... He came TO MAKE ALL THINGS NEW... It is true that before He came, there were different commandments for various different situations. However, this NEW Commandment OVERRIDES them all... JESUS (per se) NEVER ever said to love people only if they are "straight". Never.
MsDancesongs please stop trying to justify your actions . Jesus never spoke about gayness because it was already covered in the Old Testament laws and was agiven in Judaic culture . Of which he said “I have not come to change one word of the law”
Old Testament and New Testament both speak against this sin as well as church tradition and the magisterium of the church which is led by the Holy Spirit as promised . Jesus never spoke about drugs but does that mean he’s ok with it so long as we “love each other” .
You must enter through the narrow gate . Please consider carefully where your real desires are
If you read Romans 1: 25-28 you will see what the new Testament says. Or the New commandment as you refer to it. To make all things new refers to the washing away of old sin through Jesus ' Blood.
Jesus ' love and sacrifice is what frees us from sin, and only then are we able to love a pure love as Jesus has loved us, once we have repented of our sin and made a resolution to sin no more.
@VictoriousRainy Yuno What does the bible really say on the LGBT community go to my channel and watch my latest show. Please watch from beginning to end.
Jesus teaches you love others, he doesn’t teach you to have sex with everyone you love. Love is not sexual orientation.
Love the sinner not the sin. I guess for example it would be like a person who does heroin, heroin is damaging to the body but it doesn’t mean that your family/friends/brothers or sisters in Christ don’t love you! they (hopefully) will help you and encourage you to stop doing heroin, not accepting that heroin is good for you. I tried to say it another way, hope this helps and God bless!
An absolutely riveting talk! Anointed! I felt moved by the comment commending the value of spending time in silence before Christ in the Tabernacle because the devil himself knows just how beneficial this is in our ongoing conversion and desire for personal holiness. Thankyou for a terrific presentation on this important topic. 👍
As a mariried straight man this video made a whole lot of sense to me with my own struggles. God bless you all!
Revealed wounds can be healed! Wow!
The beauty of confession. It's not always necessary to reveal your wounds to the public, but not to hide them either. Still, the confessional is the best place to reveal your wounds, and right then and there, they are healed! You are healed!
Thank you for your honesty, and your transparency. God bless.
Thank you, ladies! You explain so well! Great talk. 💗
What a wonderful and powerful video thank you both AND God continue to bless you !!
I really want to share this video, but I've already failed many times to be charitable in the way I presented similar content on my social media. I'm honestly considering avoiding future family gatherings because of how much hurt I've caused specific family members who live out this lifestyle because of how little I considered their feelings when posting things on my social media. A good handful of my relatives retaliated in their defense as well. I don't even know how to begin to apologize and explain that I still accept and love them even though I disagree with how they're living. Please pray for me.
I totally understand you... I Will pray for you rockera
Don't absent yourself from your family. (Being religious is not a cult.) You can still love people who are using birth control, divorced, same-sex civilly married, etc., because your presence is love. Be loving in your interactions. "Preach always; when necessary, use words." With family, I never use words because they already know where I stand and we still love each other. Yes, we are the Church, but in America everyone has freedom of religion for themselves.
@@splashpont I totally agree and to an extent even went out of my way to demonstrate that I love them with my actions and asking about their lives. This only became an issue when I posted something on my personal Facebook account regarding same sex relationships that it became a problem. My family saw it as a deliberate and personal attack against them.
@@laXrockera691 I don't think that's the issue. Coming from someone who has come out to their mother and didn't feel accepted: the actual problem probably lies not in the fact that you shared whatever on your social media, but rather in the way you "express your acceptance". Yes, I understand that you are struggling to be understood, but still saying that you do not agree with the way someone lives is counterproductive and can make the other feel not accepted at all. At the end of the day is no one's business to agree or disagree with other people's "life choices" (even tho being LGBT or cisgender/heterosexual/"normal" is not a choice but just who you are).
My mom answered my "hey mom I think I'm not straight" saying "you still have time to change". That's not acceptance.
It would be sad if you and your family just drifted away because of this, so my advice is to LISTEN and ask for simple explanations to them first of all, inform yourself on the issue and absolutely keep your mind open. Don't just go for content that enforces your opinion but rather for that which challenges your beliefs.
I truly hope you will change your mind a bit and will manage to get some closure with your family! Good luck!
You write "I still accept and love them even though I disagree with how they're living". This sentence says a lot about your stance.
Yes. Yes you can. End of discussion.
Thank you so much
Thank you for sharing, Jackie and Kim.
I love your video. You're the answer to my prayer!
The answer is “Yes”. Most important, be good to yourself and do good deeds onto others, and forgive those who may have hurt you. Preach love. That’s what being a Catholic is all about.
@anydreamwilldo all I’m hearing is that you need to just focus on yourself and the things in life that make YOU happy. You can’t rely to be happy off of others, people in your life should just ACCENTUATE whatever great things u have going on in life right now :)
Being a Christian doesn't mean that you can do whatever you want. I'm not saying that about that homosexual stuff, rather about the Christian style of life. Jesus said us to take our cross and follow him. Doing whatever we want and saying just with mouth that we're Christians... Oh, that's not Christianity. Man lost his human qualities and can't gain them just by sitting there
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"Revealed wounds can be healed." Powerful, and so true.
Awesome video! Thank you for sharing your heart, Kim.
She's going to be miserable for the rest of her life by denying who she really is.
I appreciate that this channel chooses to at least have a conversation about this and other sensitive topics. The world will be a better place when we can learn to see others through God's eyes first, and love our neighbors. Love and compassion open the doors to dialog, hate and bitter judgment closes all doors to communicate with others. IMO
Love this testimony, love you in Christ, blessings sister .
'Revealed wounds can be healed'
I love that
A truly beautiful, deep and whole explanation of what a person is, and what a person is not. God bless you!
Great video, very well said!! Thank you!
wonderful and profound. Universal, it applies to any passion, perfect analogy and explanation
I have a lot of respect for this Lady!
Thank you for your awesome testimony Kim! Apart from Jesus, we are ACTUALLY NOTHING! May you continue to keep your heart pure for a Jesus and follow Him daily! God bless you in ALL WAYS Kim!
Sin spirit of 🦹♂️ evil rules you.
Repent for your taught is not appropriate.
Pray and ask god to understand what he actually meant. Or else you will perish in lake of fire.
False prophets And preachers give soothing messages.
i don"t
Jim Smith me either lol
Desire is a sin not love. Jesus just wanted us to love. I will marry the woman I love
Jackie & Kim are amazing women of God! It's refreshing to hear Biblical truth being proclaimed.... even in a world of sin & compromise!
Say you wanna eat cheesecake once a month, does that make you unhealthy? To me this argument doesn't really come together.
Not unless you eat it a regular amount, and I guess moderately exercise too. You could probably do that for the rest of your life and literally be fine, developing little if any health problems. Yeah this argument is a little weird. Sex isn’t everything but neither are chocolate chip cookies, or any number of other pleasures pursued in moderation. The framing of her not pursing sex around the reason that ‘sex isn’t the only thing that makes people happy/sexual pleasure is fleeting’ is strange since there are so many other things which if you were to apply that same prescription would seem a bit absurd.
It's not about being healthy. It's about moral right and wrong, about God's plan for humanity.
All analogies are incomplete.
The analogy was meant to convey the difference between wanting and acting. I thought that was pretty obvious?
@VictoriousRainy Yuno What does the bible really say on the LGBT community go to my channel and watch my latest show. Please watch from beginning to end.
So God's grace doesn't extend to people in same sex relationships? If it's so serious it can keep you out of heaven you'd think he'd put it in the commandments.
It is it's adultery commandment 7
@@gammagamer6397
Adultery against whom exactly?
Their non-existent hypothetical opposite sex spouse.
Don’t eat cheesecake, got it 👍
Thank you so much for this message
Love this so much!! thank you!xx
Thank you for this message! Can we have these videos translated please!
Oh my goodness! Amen sister, and where has Christ been keeping you! I know you said you are married, but what a truly beautiful reformed soul, and related witness, you have! Keep up the God-work and know how truly thankful you made me today for knowing there is someone like you out there in Christ's family!
My initial mountain to move with Jesus wasn't same-sex attraction or action, but rather substance abuse and all that came along with it, and once He finally caught up with me by shutting down all of my excuses, He pulled me out of the muck I chose to live in a made me a new creature again. What's really encouraging about that, and you, though is that we both come across very similarly in the way we express our witness for Christ. Truth and love with genuine/authentic passion!
In Christ, Andrew
P.S. A little tip for the remaining and/or upcoming struggles to be revealed (and healed - I like that) is to literally beg Him to remove any and all emotional memories and attachments that relate to fueling the sin in question. That allows Him to break the chains so we can participate with doing the healing work needed with Him. Then whatever it is becomes a page in our history book instead or a movie or a mockumentory for the guy downstairs to torment us with. Jesus is the Man!!!
Well said Andrew - thanks - this helps me alot.
@@markm.5756 You're most welcome brother, but the true thanks, glory, and honor go to Jesus and the Holy Spirit for without them I would still be dead in my sins, and unsaved, for my own strength is not enough on its own to do such amazing works of grace! Whatever you're battling brother, know that the victory has already been won for you and is yours for the asking with Christ! Viva Cristore!!!! In Christ, Andrew
Also, don't hide of run from the pain that often comes from winning the battle. It's the old man of sin not wanting to let go and die but once we embrace and face the emotional ties to sin hE uses to keep us from killing them with Christ, then we have to offer them in surrender to the Lord so we can be resurrected with Him anew after they die. Or, incorporating the words of out sister from the video, the emotional memories and attachments must be revealed (and offered up) so Christ can heal them once and for all. You'll still be tempted afterwards though, but God allows that to strengthen and reinforce that faith and trust you have further developed with Him.
@@Ezekiel336-16 Upon waking this morning I read your reply and it's filled with the Holy Spirit and aid/help/instruction. This Saturday I'm being consecrated/enrolled into the Confraternity of the Holy Rosary. Finally I want Mary to be my real Mother and to be her real Son - and I know her major role is to bring all of us closer to her beloved Son - and I want that more than ever in my life. Please keep me in your prayers, and I will do so for you as well. God Bless.
This is such a beautiful story!
❤️ this channel so much!
But eating cheesecake isn't intrinsically evil, it's the addiction to it that is, using it at a replacement for the Lord. Minus the addiction it is fine, even good. Pleasure is a natural good when undistorted by original sin. Likewise then why can't committed, homosexual lovers - clothed in Christ - acknowledging that Christ alone can fulfil us fully, also partake of that same goodness ?
Just think of Nikki Minaj, in Megatron "Bite me, bite, me that excite me, if you eatin it do it precisely ". Cake and cookies are clearly words used in rap to refer to what I guess one of these women is trying to avoid. I am not really impressed, rather I feel at a loss for words.
Eating chessecake is not intrisically evil, same sex relationships are.
I would really like to hear this answer!
@@natalia_vlatka When they are not. To say they are evil is evil in of itself.
this is an awesome question!! we need to think about the purpose of sex, why God created it. sex is for two reasons, procreation and bonding. when you engage in the sexual act but strip either procreation or bonding away from the act, you distort the act. same-sex couples can not have sex to procreate. and sex outside of marriage is always bad, and the Bible establishes that marriage is between one man and one woman. :) hope this helps
This was perfect and beautiful and so educating. Thank you so much you guys!
Beautiful!
Thank you.
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Wow, Kim is super down to earth and strong.
Sister is a great preacher by the grace of the Holy Spirit. This video should be shown in every catechism class around any English speaking nation.
jeffry gagnon
Typical Protestant comment. The catechism is all from the Bible. It has all the quotations and everything. Don’t make ignorant comments. The disciples were also MAN.
By the way, I wasn’t asking her to teach from the catechism, a catechist is a teacher. Please don’t make stupid comments. I didn’t even talk about the catechism, I talked about a class.
jeffry gagnon I’m driving, I’ll respond when I’m home.
jeffry gagnon
Why did you delete your other comment?
What if I only eat cheesecake every once in a while & balance my lifestyle with exercise & proper nutrition. Calories in // Calories out. Am I still unhealthy?
no in that way it's not a problem i guess (in my opinion)
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For a Christian yes . You can't eat it at all.
What a great message. I wish all the Catholic Schools Religious Courses would show this video to their students. I think it would give them a better understanding.
Thank you for this goodness.
Another good analogy is the difference between having anger issues and assaulting someone
@Coffeeaddicted Lunatic me too - funny - I read your handle-name and immediately understood why you have anger issues. Try decaf! LOL.
True... what a great reminder. I have a short fuse sometimes... Thanks.
Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitude of sins. Peter 4:8
Such a wonderful video !
Hi Kim
You've given great advice to our sisters & brothers who face struggles with this.
I'm just sad to hear you dont like Cats as they too are the most loving companions & are not cold & detached as so many people believe. I had a dog when i was in my teens into mid 20's when he died, then few years later a poor hungry Mama Cat came looking for food she would sit & wait & we would feed her provided her with a cosy big kennel & she would go away for few weeks & return with her pride & joy 2 or 3 kittens.
Each year she did this we tried to get her neutered but she avoided the humane trap so we were left with kittens who became our next generations of cats, some hissy scared little ones, some tamer & more handleable. There were homes in country for the wilder ones but the tame babies from each litter became our family, they were loved cherished & they loved us back.
Because we opened our hearts to them they trusted us, even the scared Mama cat knew she could depend on us to feed & provide shelter for her & her little ones. My elderly Mother was never alone in her room because two beautiful furry Cats kept her company, they knew she needed quiet reassurance from their purring & presence. One greeted her after she returned from broken femur surgery with such loud purrs it was like a "traction engine" of happiness & she rubbed her head into my Mother's forehead with a joyful greeting.
Theres a saying thay once a Cat starts to trust you they move forward in leaps & bounds in their trust, ive experienced this many times even very feral ones have become big softies loving head butts & rubs. So next time you see one try to see Jesus in them too because He's in Every living Creature, even Cats 🐱🤗
Theres a wonderful Catholic website "Catholic Stewards of Creation" they have prayer groups that support all Animals in the world, our domestic pets, mistreated neglected abused animals, wild animals in circuses bring abused & countries that have no animal welfare policies anything we want prayers for they will include in their intentions.
If anyone has a sick pet they will pray for them.
Also one of the group Susi Pittman has written books about "Do Our Pets Go to Heaven"..
So if you get chance to spend time with a friends Cat take this chance & just relax & watch how they cautiously but lovingly work their way into your heart. God's Creatures come in many packages. I love the hymn..
"All things bright & beautiful All Creatures Great & Small, All things wise & wonderful The Lord God made them All".
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Well said ma'am! She needs to video conference, send this video or personally go to every diocese, parish, seminary, the Vatican, all bishops conferences, Catholic high school and college.
@@jeffrygagnon5506
You have it confused with every other Christian religion. This is Jesus Christ's Church. The One, Holy, Catholic , Apostolic church . Amen!
Your so brave and beautiful!!!!! HUGS AND KISSES! God bless you always!
What a brilliant video!
This video is SUCH good advice for all forms of sexual sin/desires. Wow. So helpful to me. Thank you ❤
Normal opposite-sex attraction is difficult enough. I can’t imagine the difficulty of same-sex attraction to those who want to be holy.
It is pretty rough sometimes but it pushes us to be stronger. Please pray for us!
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I will.
Sorry for bothering, I’m not trying to be rude or anything, but how is oposite-sex attraction difficult?
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I think what I meant more precisely is not giving into natural desires when not married. That is a difficulty for most people who are attempting to have control over themselves.
@@timopper5488 oh alright, thank you for the clarification ^^