American Psycho: The Complete History of Patrick Bateman | Horror History
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- Patrick Bateman has a complex timeline spanning several novels, a viral marketing campaign and a movie. He may be the craziest villain I've covered!
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BEHIND THE MASK OF MADNESS. Patrick Bateman, the enigmatic and chilling protagonist of American Psycho, has captivated horror fans since the release of Bret Easton Ellis' novel in 1991. Bateman's character is one that delves deep into the dark side of the human psyche, leaving viewers and readers questioning the lines between reality and fantasy.
In this video, we'll dissect everything there is to know about Patrick Bateman, including appearances in the other works of Bret Easton Ellis, the mastermind behind this twisted tale. We'll dive into the complexities of Bateman's character and answer questions like "did Patrick Bateman actually kill anyone?" I'll also attempt to sort hallucination from reality, piece together his timeline and analyze everything native to the strange world of American Psycho; from The Patty Winters Show to the fate of each "Hardbody", to what it takes to get reservations at Dorsia, and so much more!
Patrick Bateman exists within the larger universe of Bret Easton Ellis's novels, and we'll examine how his character intertwines with others in Ellis's literary world, such as The Rules of Attraction, Glamorama and Lunar Park. I'll also be looking at the American Psycho 2000 Emails to analyze what Bateman's been up to in the new millennium. By comparing and contrasting the portrayal of Bateman in American Psycho with his appearances in other works, we'll uncover the layers of this disturbing character. As we travel down the road to becoming a psychopath. prepare to be both fascinated and disturbed by what we uncover.
Chapters
0:00:00 The Birth of Patrick Bateman
0:01:30 Intro
0:03:25 Teenage Years
0:07:23 Young Adult Life
0:11:13 The Beginning of American Psycho
0:18:08 What's With The Patty Winters Show?
0:19:57 Mistaken Identity Among Yuppies
0:23:28 Addiction
0:26:03 Life on Wall Street
0:39:31 Things Get More Bizarre
0:49:55 Increasing Attacks & Christmas Party
1:00:21 The Death of Paul Owen?
1:07:29 Reconnecting with Sean and Bethany
1:12:38 Summer 1989
1:23:43 Bateman's Mind Crumbles
1:27:20 "Another Night"
1:30:23 Breaking Up with Evelyn
1:33:08 Bateman Hits The Absolute Bottom
1:46:29 A Return To Normal?
1:52:24 Patrick Becomes A Father
1:54:24 Glamorama and Lunar Park
1:55:42 Virtual Therap-e and Divorce Trial
2:06:37 Bateman Gets Into The Movie Business
2:08:15 Bateman's Legacy
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About American Psycho
Patrick Bateman (Christian Bale) is a Wall Street yuppie, obsessed with success, status and style, with a stunning fiancee (Reese Witherspoon). He is also a psychotic killer who rapes, murders and dismembers both strangers and acquaintances without provocation or purpose. Based on the controversial novel, the film offers a sharp satire to the dark side of yuppie culture in the '80s, while setting forth a vision that is both terrifying and chilling.
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Grass is a plant with narrow leaves growing from the base. A common kind of grass is used to cover the ground in a lawn and other places. Grass gets water from the roots in the ground. Grass is usually pigmented with the colour ‘green’. Grasses are monocotyledon, herbaceous plants.
The grasses include the "grass", of the family Poaceae (also called Gramineae). Also sometimes it is used to include the sedges (Cyperaceae) and the rushes (Juncaceae). These three families are not closely related but belong to different clades in the order Poales. They are similar adaptations to a common life-style.
The true grasses include cereals, bamboo and the grasses of lawns (turf) and grassland. Uses for graminoids include food (as grain, sprouted grain, shoots or rhizomes), drink (beer, whisky), pasture for livestock, thatching thatch, paper, fuel, clothing, insulation, construction, sports turf, basket weaving and many others.
Many grasses are short, but some grasses, like bamboo can grow very tall. Plants from the grass family can grow in many places, even if they are very cold or very dry. Several other plants that look similar but are not members of the grass family are also sometimes called grass; these include rushes, reeds, papyrus, and water chestnut.
Grasses are an important food for many animals, like deer, buffalo, cattle, mice, grasshoppers, caterpillars, and many other grazers. Unlike other plants, grasses grow from the bottom, so when animals eat grass they usually do not destroy the part that grows. Without grass, dirt can wash away into rivers (erosion). Graminoids include some of the most versatile plant life-forms. They became widespread toward the end of the Cretaceous. Fossilized dinosaur dung (coprolites) have been found containing grass phytoliths (silica stones inside grass leaves). Grasses have adapted to conditions in lush rain forests, dry deserts, cold mountains and even intertidal habitats, and are now the most widespread plant type. Grass is a valuable source of food and energy for many animals.Lawn grass is often planted on sports fields and in the area around a building. Sometimes chemicals and water is used to help lawns to grow.
People have used grasses for a long time. People eat parts of grasses. Corn, wheat, barley, oats, rice and millet are cereals, common grains whose seeds are used for food and to make alcohol such as beer.
Sugar comes from sugar cane, which is also a plant in the grass family. People have grown grasses as food for farm animals for about 4,000 years. People use bamboo to build houses, fences, furniture and other things. Grass plants can also be used as fuel, to cover roofs, and to weave baskets. n English, the word "grass" appears in several phrases. For example: "The grass is always greener on the other side" means "people are never happy with what they have and want something else." "Don't let the grass grow under your feet" means "Do something". "A snake in the grass" is about a person that will not be honest and will trick others.
Grass is sometimes used as a slang term for cannabis (also called pot, weed, or marijuana) The Grass type (Japanese: くさタイプ Grass type) is one of the eighteen types. Prior to changes in Generation IV, all damaging Grass-type moves were special, but they may now also be physical depending on the attack. Grass-type Pokémon are immune to Leech Seed. Grass-type Pokémon are immune to Leech Seed Starting in Generation VI, Grass-type Pokémon are immune to powder and spore moves and Effect Spore.Grass types are tied with Rock in having the most weaknesses out of all types with five. Since Generation I, a particular asset of Grass types is being the only type that is immune to Leech Seed. As of Generation VI, Grass-type Pokémon are also immune to powder and spore moves, such as Sleep Powder and Stun Spore. Additionally, Grass Pokémon are the only ones affected by Rototiller and Flower Shield. Those moves raise both attack stats or the physical Defense stat, respectively, when used. Forest's Curse adds the Grass type to the target's types. Grass-type attacks are resisted by seven types, so they're tied with Bug as the most resisted type. Those resistant types are best covered by Rock and Ground. As of Generation VI, Dark and Ghost have neutral matchups against every type that resists Grass. When Grassy Terrain is in the effect, the power of Grass-type moves is increased by 30% (50% prior to Generation VIII) if the user is on the ground.
Contest properties In contests, Grass-type moves are typically Clever moves, but can also be any of the other four contest conditions. As of Generation VIII, there are 112 Grass-type Pokémon or 12.27% of all Pokémon (counting those that are Grass-type in at least one of their forms), making it the third most common type after Normal and before Flying.
A Pokémon with Protean or Libero will become a Grass-type Pokémon if it uses a Grass-type move. A Pokémon with Color Change, Imposter, Mimicry, RKS System, or Multitype will become a Grass-type Pokémon if (respectively) it is hit with a Grass-type move, is sent out against a Grass-type opponent, if the terrain is grassy, if it is holding a Grass Memory, or if it is holding a Meadow Plate or Grassium Z. Since Generation VI, Grass-type Pokémon are also immune to Effect Spore; Only Grass-type Pokémon can have these Abilities. This does not include signature Abilities.Due to the decreased amount of types in the TCG, Grass generally adopts all Bug-type Pokémon under its typing. It also adopted Poison-type Pokémon prior to the Diamond & Pearl set, after which they were moved to Psychic. Similar to the games, Grass-type Pokémon in the TCG are generally weak to Fire and resist Water.
Grass-type Pokémon are strong against Fighting and Water Pokémon, whilst Metal Pokémon resisted it until the EX Power Keepers expansion set. Generation V introduced the most Grass-type Pokémon of any generation, with 21 (including Rotom's Mow form), and Generation VI introduced the fewest Grass-type Pokémon, with nine. Generation I introduced the most Grass-type moves of any generation, with 10, and Generation II introduced the fewest Grass-type moves, with three.
The Grass type and/or Pokémon of the type have been referred to using the term "plant" instead on some occasions: In the English Generation I games, the Gym guide in Cerulean Gym refers to Pokémon of the Grass type as "plant Pokémon". In the English versions of Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen, he instead mentions "Grass-type Pokémon". In the Japanese versions of the Generation I games and FireRed and LeafGreen, he mentions the Grass type itself, calling it the "Plant type" (Japanese: しょくぶつタイプ). Another reference to "plant Pokémon" (Japanese: しょくぶつポケモン) is made by Professor Oak in the Japanese Pokémon Red, Green, and Blue, and international Pokémon Red and Blue, classifying Bulbasaur as such when the player is about to choose it as their starter. This is also the case in the Japanese versions of Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen; in contrast, he calls it the "grass Pokémon" in the English versions. This same reference is also used in the first episode of Pokémon Origins.
In multiple languages, such as French and German, the Grass type is translated as the Plant type. The Turkish dub of the anime occasionally refers to "Grass type" as "Plant type". The Grass type has the most Pokémon that evolve by Evolution stones, with a total of 11. It is also the type that can utilize the most stones, having at least one Pokémon that can evolve via the Leaf Stone, Sun Stone, Water Stone, and Shiny Stone.The Grass type is the only type to have more than one HP-draining move, having five of them. Grass-type attacks deal doubly super-effective damage to the most Pokémon of all types. Grass-type attacks are super effective against the three types that Fire types are weak to. Fire is the only type that hasn't been paired with Grass. In Tree's a Crowd, Brock states that Grass-type Pokémon resist Electric-type moves due to being able to diffuse the electricity into trees and the ground. He also explains that if Grass types are in the air, they cannot diffuse the electricity from Electric attacks, thereby dealing normally effective damage.
Now that you have read this much about grass, maybe you should go and touch some...
A true blessing !
I can’t believe CZ hearted my comment
@@activisionstillsucks9665 its my comment
That's impressive. Let's see Paul Allen's complete history.
That Patrick Bateman is such a loser anyway.
@@CZsWorld Another Martini, CZ?
Gah this one was so good!
And his business card.
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Before I begin my actual comment, I would like to apologize in advance for my inadequate level of English proficiency. I am not a native speaker of the world's current lingua franca which unfortunately leads to me making numerous embarrassing mistakes being made whenever I attempt to communicate using this language. Whenever I am reminded of how I lack the ability to convey my thoughts in an eloquent manner, I feel as though I have committed a cardinal sin, as though every English teacher in the world is simultaneously shaking their head and sighing due to how utterly disappointed they are at me.
Although I know that saying sorry to those of you who are reading my comment will not change the fact that I fail miserably to write and speak perfect English, I am writing this as a way to deter a certain type of people who cannot stand poor English (Also known informally as Grammar Nazis) from mocking me by posting unwanted and unnecessary comments detailing my every blunder. In my humble opinion, making grammatical errors should be perfectly acceptable as native speakers should not expect non-native speakers to be able to communicate in their second or third languages eloquently. If you are able to completely understand what the other person wrote, is there really a problem with what they've written? No, because the entire concept of communication is the exchange of information between other intelligent beings, which means that no matter how the exchange of information is made, as long as the information is accurately shared there is not a fundamental issue with their ability to communicate. To see it in another way, remember that someone who isn't fluent in English is fluent in another language. When you think about it this way, isn't it impressive for someone to speak a second language in any capacity? Having empathy and respect are qualities that are sorely missing for far too many people these days, especially on the internet.
That being said, I am aware that not all netizens who correct others are doing it to ridicule and shame. There are some who do so with the intent to help others improve and grow. However, displaying the failures of other people publicly will cause the person who is criticized to feel negative emotions such as shame and sadness due to the fact that their mistake has been made obvious which severely undermines the point they were trying to make in spite of their unfamiliarity with the English language. In most circumstances people are not looking for language help when they post anything online. Most people just want to enjoy themselves and have a good time on the internet which is why I would not encourage correcting other people regardless of your intentions. If you really do want to help others with their spelling or grammar, I would highly recommend you to help via messaging privately because not only will you not embarrass anyone, you can also go more in-depth with your explanation which I'm sure the other person will greatly appreciate if they want help, but I digress. I know that I've written a bit of an essay, but I hope I've made my points clear.
Anyways, here is the comment I wanted to make:
shid And coom,
I think it’s funny that in the novel Tom Cruise and Patrick Bateman meet When in real life Christian Bale actually says he got his inspiration to act as he did as Bateman because he saw an interview with Tom Cruise where he was friendly but he had nothing behind his eyes
Pitching a sequel where Patrick aspires to climb the ranks of Scientology because TC did it and he’s “hip”
@@healgoth 😂😂
I was just talking about tom , I watched scientology video , yep tom is out there a bit
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Understand that the real meaning is that Tom Cruise lived in Bret Easton Ellis’ building when he was a young author in New York and he ran into him in the elevator twice.
The fact that Nolan never has Bruce Wayne use the excuse, "I need to return some video tapes," in his Batman movies is just a big missed opportunity.
My head cannon is that (I'm sure this is completely contrary to the video I'm just starting) is Heather Ledgers Joker is Patrick Bateman and American Psycho is an unofficial prequel.
But you have the "what is on the inside does not matter."
In American Psycho and Batman Begins.
I am quite certain that Christian Bale is very happy for streaming services, because there's literally no way for him to explain the need to return a rented movie to the store that doesn't sound like a joke.
@@dangerszewski9816he actually said in an interview that, tired of hearing the joke, he was on the cusp of taking a voluntary exit from this terrestrial plane. The same day he was going to do it, was the same day Netflix offered streaming for subscribers and he changed his mind.
Batman instead of disapearing on Gordon says “I need to return some video tapes” and just saunters off the roof 😂
"he goes home, changes suits, gives himself a pedicure and tortures a dog to death" Well that's a sentence I never thought I'd hear
My take is, Bateman actually killed all those people but the lawyer got it all fixed up and kept hinting at Bateman to just shut up and "fit in".
That makes a surprising amount of sense, actually
my take is he didn't kill anyone yet. but his true massacre starts after the book/movie.
I think he gets caught way in the future like when he’s 60 because he’s obviously specking to a audience in the book, and why admit to the crimes at all if he hadn’t already gotten in major trouble?
@@RedVelvetBlackleather or he got off and is pulling an oj
That’s always been how I’ve perceived it. Glad I’m not alone. The only portion of the movie that made me question if his actions were true or not was the scene he was at an ATM, and the screen says “FEED ME A STRAY CAT”. And he proceeds to go on a killing spree. I feel like there’s definitely hints in the movie (and full on proof in the book) that he’s very mentally ill but I do believe a good chunk, if not most of what “happened” was real.
William Defoe was told to do three takes of the interview scene. One where he knew Bateman was the killer, one where he suspected he was and one where he had no idea. The three takes were then spliced together.
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@@timothyhaltner8877My gaping booty.
@@timothyhaltner8877just Google it dickhead its real
It's true tho
@@A_restartedguysource put of interest
Personally as an incredible fan of the novel I’ve found every theory of the film to be extremely believable, however my favorite is that every murder that Patrick commits is real, but anything absurd that we see happen is a side effect of his heavy drug usage. Patrick is genuinely murdering people however because he’s so bland and boring he cant get caught, because simply no one cares what he’s doing.
AGREE
Nice take
i 100% agree and love this, i genuinely don’t believe the murders were fake. i believe they were real
Something i noticed in the novel was how patrick seemed to always eat sugary foods outside of his normal diet whenever he performed certain kills, like with the dog walker where he shoveled cereal into his mouth by the handful or when he would buy dove bars and other foods. I haven't read it in a while but I think it could be used as a clue as to whether or not some of what he did was real or not. I think I thought he ate after real incidents but i can't remember what made me conclude that.
He ate sand, too.
Ohhhh they did the same thing in Swarm show. The chick would stuff her mouth after killing or high stress.
I don’t think so. It’s more the insanity, duality and hypocrisy of his lifestyle. Worried about health but doing Coke for instance.
He drank like three milkshakes in a row after killing that homeless man and his dog, that’s actually super interesting of you to mention. Maybe it’s related to his impulsivity and lack of ability to control his urges
Whenever I try to get sober I eat a lot of sugar. It's cuz my dopamine is low and I need a "hit" of something.
Damn, didn't know Bateman had this much lore... let's see Paul Allen's horror history
It would be funny if his story was nearly identical to Patrick’s story…. Actually imagine if he was planning to kill Marcus because he thought Marcus was cool or something ridiculous like they
Deal
Mostly reservations at Dorsia's
for anyone interested, i created an Audiobook of the Book with Bateman as the narrator using AI technology its on my channel. Cheers!
@@AIAudiobooks411 I hope you include links for purchasing the books you do that for. I think that's a great service if that's what you're actually doing, but making sure to link to the author's work in question will provide you legal protection. You should think of reading them for yourself, too. Or hiring voice actors to do it, instead of AI. If your channel's small, AI is cool and all, but if you grow larger, you should create something special with real people doing the reading.
Fun fact. In the Dexter books (and show) Dexter uses Patrick Bateman as his veterinarian alias to get the tranquilizer he uses
A not very subtle move by Dexter.
@@Xehanort10 tbf in the early 2000s I dont think many people would have known. Besides it was just a little literary Easter egg
@@sarahhughes4437 bro didn't the american psycho movie come out in the 2000s
@@eliasrodriguez1419 Yes, and nobody saw it. It became a cult classic later. Also both Dexter and American Psycho are adapted from books, and it was clearly a literary nod/homage when the name Patrick Bateman appeared in Dexter
@@sarahhughes4437 oh shit
Bateman's hatred for live music is actually easy. He loves the studio over produced top 40 hits and what is deemed popular. Live music often deviates and sometimes is improvisational amd experimental even from top 40 artists, its not controlled, conformed, its changing, chaotic even from tje same 80s stars such as huey lewis and phil collins both chapters in the book. Its why he likes "Sports" and "Fore" from Huey and not "Picture This" he mentions their earlier work and how its too new wavish
Good points. I always added it up to his social anxiety disorder and/or "looked down" on the type of people that would be at live concerts rocking out viewing them as less than or rebellious and not conformed
For me it's more he doesn't know how to react to it. He likes popular music because others like it. Live Music, he doesn't know what to think about it in the moment. Live Music he has to react based on the people around him and it gives them power over him in his mind.
no, no, no, yall got it wrong. I love rock music, but I have zero interest in live rock concert. Because I don't want to deal with some sweaty assholes, paying money to hear music in half the quality, I can get it at home. I don't understand "the experience", and I hate people. It is very very simple. Best music is when ur alone, with your headphones on, with that crisp quality headset and recording coming into your ears. Period.
@@downsideupgoesgroarlive music doesn't sound as crisp or perfect as it does at home, but there is a general vibe that feels incredible. It's similar to feeling the Holy Spirit in church of you've ever experienced that or know people who have. It's the physical and metaphorical sense of unity on top of just being so excited to see a group that you really enjoy
I don't know what's scarier; a book about a wealthy serial killer, or the knowledge that the author acted out his fantasies through the book.
Ellis did not act out fantasies through the book. Read his memoir.
If thats true then it would be true of every horror writer
I would say the author is probably safer because he has a safe outlet where only fictional characters get hurt.
Hey, it's infinitely healthier than doing it to actual people
@@brokenpieces5852 It's also about having morals.
A 2 hour long CZ video is more then we deserve lol
You deserve a 2 hour video every day!
I can't do that though...
@@CZsWorld Are you going to make a video on Murren Prescott?
@CZsWorld you put in enough work already man, keep it up!🫡
@@CZsWorld are you going to do a video on the horror series "from" ???
Agreed!
CZsWorld's first feature length film omg I wasn't expecting a 2 hour video and I am HERE FOR IT!
How long do you consider a feature? Tiffany and Jigsaw were both over an hour too.
@@CZsWorldI'm guessing an hour and 20 plus minutes. That's usually the qualification for a feature length film when it comes to film festivals
Something I love pointing out to help the theory it was all in Patrick's head was when he was dragging the body through the lobby there was a blood trail but when you get outside and the camera shows the lobby behind him there's no blood trail. Couple that with the fact at the end the lawyer says he never got a call from him drives it home
In NYC in the 80's there weren't cameras everywhere & people were violently assaulted in public (streets, subway stations & trains, toilets, parks) my Aunt was assaulted in public twice - people just looked away - NYC had long run as "murder capital of the world", it was only just starting to clean up & was still very dangerous. Also it was not common, but expected that limo & taxi drivers would take you get drugs & sex-workers, hell some drivers used it as a side hustle. So all those things could have absolutely happened.
Interesting
Absolutely
In the 80s I saw someone murdered in front of Cooper Union and the cops didn’t come even though I called.
@@cassandraunheeded The Guardian Angels were better than the cops. The stories are shocking, I can't even imagine witnessing it. I did learn from those stories tho that heels are a weapon (after you mastered the skill of walking n running n my aunt did), pepper sprays better than mace cuz of PCP (I'd assume you saw that phase first hand, not sorry I missed that) n groin, throat, run. Not in the country anymore but seems maybe Chicago trying to bring back NYC circa 1970/80s.
@@u-neekusername4430 My friend Maria (black belt and nearly everything else) was attacked outside her apartment in alphabet city around the same time. She was hurt but lived through it and just became more intense about self defense. I lived in Philly instead which was somewhat better, but still pretty awful. All these people identifying with Patrick…Maybe you had to be there.
I never actually put it together in my mind that Sean is Patrick Bateman's brother. It all makes perfect sense now.
I love how Sean is a chad some waitress at dorsia is all over him and Patrick wants to be introduced to her and Sean shews her away like a absolute giga chad
Kao neko ko je radio i licno poznaje ovog coveka mogu samo da kazem da je najbolji u svom poslu a jos bolji covek ! Ti Miki druze da lecis svoje komplekse na nekom drugom mestu
Idk about the movie but in the book its mentioned that Sean is his brother
@Ry o yeah I totally believe that. I myself had only seen the movies. Especially Rules Of Attraction, I must have seen that movie 500 times. One of my favorites.
The laugh Patrick gets after trying to get a reservation at Dorsia is chilling because you know Patrick's whole life just flipped upside down. Probably the first time in awhile or maybe ever someone didnt say yes to him. No connections or wealth can get that table for 2!...but it can buy a nice overnight bag
the movie: 1hr 43m
the lore: 2hr 10m
my apparent attention span for american psycho: ♾️
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this video has convinced me that Patrick Bateman is one of the most despicable characters in all of fiction
to be fair, 90% of his actions are stuck in his head and he gos through a redemption arc
@@gamerstheater1187 feels like you didn’t quite understand the movie or book
@@gamerstheater1187 ur acting just like that modeling girl who said that Patrick had something sweet about him lmao
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His redemption arc isn’t gonna bring back the 50 people he killed.
Idk who's worse ...Bateman or the villian killer in No Country for old men
This is why I love this channel. So much effort and work out into the characters that are so beloved by everyone. The love for horror shows. Thanks for always giving 1000%, even on the April fool's episodes
I'm still amazed to this day that he managed to have enough material to do a Horror History on the movie within a movie STAB.
I believe he really did kill Paul, there is so much misidentification- that easily explains why he has been seen but the fact that his actual family hasn’t heard from him and hires the private detective to find him makes a lot more sense that he did indeed take an ax to his face!
A lot of the book is open to interpretation and the drug use and certainly his psychosis all can contribute to an argument that he didn’t kill everyone but to me it seems more obvious when something is off like the ATM message or some of the tv episode themes he watches, some are real and some are in his head.
I think the first cop he killed in that struggle was real but that wasn’t enough and the big shootout that was so over the top was actually just in his head the few other people he shoots after that are tougher to decipher could be real or not.. but obviously he does snap back to reality when he gets to his office and makes the call.
Just my opinion
Great video!! Loved it and love your content
Keep on with the horror!
Oh also with the whole apartment being sold and no bodies or anything in the paper … again the main point of the story to me is how oblivious everyone is and also that money is more important than some dead girls found .. Paul’s apartment is even more expensive than Patrick’s - they never say how much but again going with the book/movie theme it makes more sense that he did kill them and the people trying to get the place cleaned up and listed to sell got rid of the bodies, cuz otherwise the press alone would ruin the property value - being able to sell that place for top dollar is more important to them than the dead girls.
Thoughts?
For me it’s clear he did it. The hiding in plain sight, his privileged position, the fact nobody cares about anyone are all conducive for him getting away with it. Plus coke isn’t hallucinogenic.
@frankwhite9128 it was all in his head. The Novel and the book are different interpretations.
@@alatus_knight No, it wasn’t. If you think that, you’ve missed one of the important points of both book and movie.
@@BushidoVXX in the novel it's real but in the movie it's all in his head. Imo
You actually CAN become addicted to a habit! Exercise addiction goes hand in hand with certain eating disorders. Addicts who are trying to clean up their life are known to develop it, too- same behavior, different substance. ANYTHING in excess can be bad for you, and Bateman is all about excess- money, food, sex, violence- so I could see him just sorta moving his addictive tendencies to more legal and socially acceptable things.
I’m not sure if you’re gonna mention it but I think it’s interesting whenever Patrick is around a young girl he doesn’t hurt them(I bring this up because the infamous zoo chapter and the fact he mentions his coworkers Eurasian son, and the awful things he wants to do to them) for instance we he’s buying himself Christmas presents he mentions a girl whose 10 buying jewelry and a scarf and he notes he thinks she has good style (I don’t think he outright compliments the outfits of anyone else in the whole book besides her) and when he’s outside trump tower a girl is out front and he tells her to go away (because his daddy trump’s tower must be protected from those who would dare loiter around) and than she tells him to go and than he does…. the same Patrick who does what he does in the rat chapter (and basically every chapter in the book) just goes away. It’s a interesting part of his character that I don’t thing gets talked about. I suppose it’s interesting he despise man and even boys and obviously woman but for some reason has a soft part for girls… once again zoo chapter
Maybe he thinks of them as innocent in a way and can’t relate to them at all on the basis of gender, or he’s insecure somehow or maybe Ellie just didn’t wanna go there which I get
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Actually maybe your theory of Patrick relating to them isn’t to far off he’s a self obsessed grown adult man who’s always trying to look pretty, be popular, obsessed with style, and just wants to be externally validated. Also I think the fact maybe their innocent in his eyes plays a part he of course doesn’t harm his secretary because she’s innocent and sincere
@@RedVelvetBlackleather lmfao that was pretty misogynistic, you should reread my comment a few times cause I didn’t say he relates to them. That’s weird.
@@yeahey5947no🗿
@@yeahey5947it's not tho for the time period that's how women and girls behaved back then hell that stereotype has barely just started to not be somewhat true.
I wanted to name my son Patrick. The girlfriend saw this movie after she agreed and now we can’t. Damn!
Name him Norman. After Norman Bates.
Or name him Bruce, after Bruce Wayne. BATMAN
Meet my son, Master Bateman
If it makes you feel any better, my brother's name is Patrick, and he's a selfish pos too.
Lol my name is Sean and my older brothers name is Patrick. This part of the movie creeped me out lol
How you manage to talk about American psycho and not get demonetized is impressive. Bravo!
As someone who experiences anxiety amd seeing some interactions on this breakdown, reading the book, and watching the movie i believe some of whats percieved in Batemans head, i.e. card scene, and how its explained, others such as Price could feel this same way but perception is a strong influencer so while Patrick is feeling isolated and different, others could be closer in thinking to him more than he thinks
Exactly, but for Bateman's case, Bateman may have people getting closer and getting information about him, but that doesn't necessarily do anything to Bateman's responses or outlooks on life.
american psycho is easily one of the most interesting books i've read.
Have you read any of his others?
@@CZsWorld unfortunately not :(
@@CZsWorld Quick question, where did you find all those emails that talk about Bateman’s later life?
The content, editing, execution. You made little movie scenes for the book parts! What an amazing experience to watch! Amazing video!! :)
I had the best seizure reading that
@@jhonpierre7340 what the hell are you on about
He didn’t make those lol
The restaurant that Bateman takes Paul Owen to, Texarkana, is named after a very small town that is famous basically only for a high profile unsolved serial killing that took place there called the Texarkana Moonlight Murders. The story was then turned into a semi popular horror film called The Town that Dreaded Sundown. I’m surprised you didn’t mention this horror movie/real life serial killer connection!
I think that might mean that Patrick hallucinated that scene, since it’s shown that he has a passion for reading about real life true crime cases and what real restaurant would be named after something so dark??
Both Bret Easton Ellis and Mary Harron say that Patrick Bateman committed the murders, and I agree with them.
It is important to understand why Patrick Bateman commits the murders. One of the major themes of American Psycho is the lack of identity among rich businessmen. They constantly mistake each other for different people. This is no surprise since everyone looks the same, goes to the same barber and the massage therapist, has the same glasses, suits, haircuts and even business cards. They eat at the same restaurants. They even have sex with the same women. And they all lack any sort of personality that might make them distinguishable. There is little difference between any of the characters in the film and a mannequin in a store. Both are easy on the eye, but dead inside.
Patrick Bateman also fits this description. He is no different than any of his colleagues, but he doesn’t realize it. He doesn't realize the irony of the whole business card exchange or claiming that his haircut is better than Marcus Halberstram.
At the same time, he wants to be different than others. Not only that, but he also wants everyone to notice that he is different. That’s why he confesses to his crimes every chance he gets. He wants to see a reaction from others confirming that they think he is different, but he doesn’t get any. Because they don’t care, and he is not different.
Because people mistake each other for others all the time, it is possible, and very likely that Patrick is mistaken about whom he killed. This is very telling because the identities of the victims do not have an impact on the story at all. One of the important characters in the film is Paul Allen, yet the story wouldn’t change if Patrick killed someone other than Paul. Why should it? They are all the same. There are plenty of Paul’s in the office.
This lack of identity among the elites has disturbing implications. We only follow one of these guys, and we see what a sick person he is. In what ways are his colleagues sick psychopaths? Do they all go around killing people? Do some of them prefer raping others instead? Do they just pick a crime to commit, the way children pick toys to play with?
The apartment scene near the end of the movie also hints at very dark scenarios. To me, the face of the landlord suggests that she indeed saw all the bodies and got rid of them herself. This was a high-quality, luxurious apartment. Imagine how much the value of the house and the houses nearby would go down if people knew what it once contained inside. Maybe this isn’t even the first time the landlord had to do something like this. What other crimes are ignored because of greed?
The final scene of the movie summarizes these ideas. Patrick wants to be recognized for being different, and he fails. The frustrating thing is that he has no idea why. This bothers him and will continue to bother him. He will keep trying to set himself apart from others, not realizing what a joke his attempts are.
That is his punishment.
// Deniz
Well done.
He's literally me🗿
This doesn't relate to the actual content of the video, but the page turning sound effect used is SO auditorily satisfying
1:29:55 In Patrick’s defense I couldn’t keep track of where they were going either. Listening to those changing reservation plans was as confusing as trigonometry without a calculator.
Some of the things in this book are just amazingly imaginative. Like some of the topics for the talk show, the ATM messages and the park bench following and talking to him. I personally could never come up with such insanity
I've always wondered if Bateman's passionate descriptions of the music he likes are closeted feelings he has that he only reveals to his victims before killing them. like guilty pleasures he'd never admit to in front of his yuppy friends OR is it another example of him not having his own opinions and going along with whatever is trendy. the stuff he says does sound like he's just parroting a review he read of an album or something? im pretty sure its only in the film where he actually says out loud what he thinks about music whereas in the book he's not talking to anyone, its just randomly there for you the reader like his fitness regime is?
in fact he says that, almost technically, because he has to show some level of culture. deeply, he doesn't feel/care/enjoy none of that
I'd love to know what Price meant to Bateman. He disappears and Patrick spirals, he reappers and it's all "normal" [though you could argue it's not as he still has addictions and killing] for Bateman. There's no one thing that sets him off or puts him back on track, so what is it that Price has or does that makes Bateman go crazy? What does he represent?
No joke, American Psycho is one of my favorite films and pieces of satire
Sir, awesome video. I always considered that the whole life of Bateman was a delusion of someone in a rubber room. The back and forth of his mental condition representing the periods between his medication being taken. The people in his fake life were the hospital staff, but their personalities were derived from his distorted perception of reality. As a side note, American Psycho was the movie that showed the talent of Christian Bale.
I think he doesn't like live music because he doesn't care about the music itself at all.
He knows a lot of shallow trivia about music, and I think he uses that as another tool to elevate his social status. He recites facts and regurgitates lines from critics like rehearsed scripts, and doesn't have any kind of personal connection to any of it.
Live music puts the focus on the musicians, the exact opposite of what he wants out of it.
I've always wanted this. Thank you. The Bateman brothers and their onscreen counterparts compared to their literaturary ones is something I wanted to see covered.
One interesting aspect of the lines getting blurred. In "Glamorama," as mentioned, Patrick has weird lapel stains. But in the same book, one of his victims, Alison Poole, is very much alive and is a supporting character. I'm guessing because she's actually a creation of Ellis' friend Jay McInerney, who wasn't too pleased about Ellis killing her off, so Ellis brought her back. But I love how there's ample evidence to support different perspectives.
How ironic that our American psycho protagonist immensely idolized the ultimate American psycho that plagues this country
I think he probably avoids live music because people have emotional reactions to music while they are listening to it. Him having to fake an actual emotion at a concert would be difficult.
The Bethany kill in the book, was the only one that made my stomach twist. Had to take a minute 😂 and keep going
I was a HUGE fan of the book when it came out and signed up to get the emails. They were great! I wish they kept going every few years. I loved getting the random email from Patrick Bateman!
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4:04 they actually linked psychologically that serial killers can start being serial killers when they are little kids since they may show signs of still bed wetting and hurting animals
The fact that this story has a sort of happy ending makes me smile. The fact that Bateman found someone he truly cares about (PB), and that he actually finds peace is wholesome.
I've read the book and watched the film, however I clearly blocked out the worst of Bateman's atrocities, because there are A LOT of them.
This video is excellent but it's making me wonder if I really want to revisit either of these works of art again. I think I'm a lot more sensitive to horror, violence and misogyny in my old age, so this video might be enough. Thanks CZ! 😭😂🖤
The legend has, that his rain coat developed its own climate over the recording‘s course
I read the book in highschool and seriously I learned about all kinds of clothing lines, shades, and water bottle brands that I never knew existed.
Impressive! Now let's see Paul Allen's complete history
Thank you Marcus for this, I was listening to this on the background when I started to wonder how long I've been hearing the same video. Over 2 hours of video is *INSANE* , I appreciate you and Andrew. Will rewatch later cause I noticed you had no sponsor for this one ❤
Bateman's voice impression of Paul Allen (when he changes the answer phone greeting) sounds like Brett Easton Ellis's real voice
I like how at the end he truly gets someone to care about
He seems to have not liked kids for a long time
But as soon as he gets his own he knows that’s the only important thing
He doesn’t treat PD like an object but like a real person
His son
I do like how him and Jean do have a good relationship for a long time as well
The scene in the movie where Patrick says he’s scared he’ll hurt Jean is probably my favorite
Yes
Patrick is a psychopath
But he knows Jean is worthy to live
She complements him when she can, tries to help him, and doesn’t care how rich he is
She says In book and movie when Patrick says he’s on a diet
“Maybe we shouldn’t go to dinner than” or something like that
If Patrick was on a diet she didn’t want him to break it
She does love him for him
While them getting divorced was expected I’m glad they lasted until they had a kid
Cause now Patrick had a new responsibility
A new opportunity
While it’s a bittersweet ending
With the killer getting away
It’s an ending where you’re glad it happened
And not the awful sequel
Get that out of here
As for Patrick’s murders
I do believe he did kill Paul
I do believe he killed the girls
But his other murders in public were just hallucinations
Reasons why
After he kills Paul everything seems to go down hill
Sure he thinks it’s under control
But he doesn’t
He breaks
He uses Paul Allen in the movie as a role playing name almost
He thinks he had so much power after getting rid of a competition
But it just crumbles
Idk how to explain it but I hope you get the idea
Patrick is probably my favorite horror Icon next to Jigsaw and Leslie
He’s such a confusing character and I love it
Great video!
Didn’t know Patrick had so much to him
Keep up the great work and remember to stay safe
Now if you excuse me
*I have to return some videotapes*
No🗿
White roses to indeed symbolize innocence, but ANOTHER thing they symbolize is secrecy. 👀
It’s so bad that we didn’t have a direct sequel to Patrick’s story , I definitely would love to see an American psycho 3 continuing Patrick’s murders
Not everything needs a sequel
@@msjkramey this needs a sequel
@@iWyzk why?
Ooooh I love all of this! Love that you went into the source material! I love all your videos! I had been looking for an in-depth analysis of this character and novels themselves. This was far and beyond any of my hopes… and from a channel I already admire!!
I’m so freaking happy!
Funny thing is rap music was really good in the late 80s and all throughout the 90s. It’s only modern rap music which drives me into a murderous rage.
This was so much fun to watch. Didnt even feel like 2+ hours, it was that fascinating. Perhaps, a complete history on Christie could be a possibility in the future?
Very excited for this! Love the book and the movie!
Do people call you Tay Clay?
@@CZsWorld literally everyone does 😅
3:45 - Exeter, RI is a town relatively near Newport (~25 minutes). It's far more likely that he attended the school in Exeter, rather than a "school called Exeter".
Which strongly indicates that Patrick Bateman is a Rhode Islander
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phillips_Exeter_Academy#:~:text=Exeter%20has%20educated%20several%20generations,founder%20and%20CEO%20Mark%20Zuckerberg. No, he went to Exeter Academy in New Hampshire which is a quite famous and expensive private school and even educated several presidents
Btw it costs almost $70,000 annually to be a boarding student there.
“The past isn’t real it’s just a dream” -Bateman
2 hour video?? Yes please! Keep it up CZ love all your videos, excited for the horror potential this year
Very impressive video, very detailed, I can't even imagine how much research went into putting this together. Thank you for answering so many questions I had about the book and the movie in a concise manner. 😀
When he says he has to return some video tapes, he's not planning to return video tapes. He doesn't even have the video tapes on him. He's being sarcastic. He's saying being around you is less interesting than returning video tapes. I usually say I have to wash dishes, I left lint inside the dryer, I gotta wash my hair, I need to rearrange my furniture, Im researching tampons. I try to come up with different ways of saying I immediately wanna get as far away as possible from you.
First of yours I have ever watched. I'm impressed. Took me 2 days to finish. This was awesome. AP is one of my favorites and Christian is an absolute treasure.
i’m writing an essay on the american psycho movie, this will help me a lot to understand the original story
Wow I’m new AF because The Rules of Attraction is one of my favorite films, and I’ve never once, in the countless times I’ve watched it, realized it was in the same universe as American Psycho and that Sean Bateman was Patrick’s brother. Yikes. Lol
Thank you so much for this excellent essay. I didn’t realise how many times Trump was mentioned in American Psycho. Can’t say I’m surprised.
By the way, Ash Wednesday is not a day in which Catholics give up something they love, I think you’re confusing it with a New Year’s resolution?
There are celebrations and parties leading up to Ash Wednesday: Carnival, Mardi Gras, fat, Tuesday, shrove Tuesday, etc. Carnival literally means a farewell to meat.
Usually meat is given up for the 40 days of lent beginning on Ash Wednesday. Fish is usually not considered a meat during this time. Many others, go further to abstain from partying in general. Lent can be seen as a serious time of fasting and prayer during the last month of Jesus’ life.
Lent comes to an end with Easter Sunday when people return to feasting and eating sweets and partying . This is done in the belief that, after being crucified, Jesus rose from the dead.
That Bateman/Batman joke towards the end gave me a good laugh 😂😂😂
Holy two hours and ten minutes batman! Thanks for the awesome content and all the work that goes into it!
Thanks Zac!!!! You are the best at digging deep and then helping us see all the details in a deep and intelligent way!
Was not expecting a single ounce of redemption but this was better than I expected
Love the work and effort you put in to all of your content. It's a great way to get my horror junkie fix, the length of this video and the in depth analysis was fantastic! Thank you for all your work
I Love the depths in every character I ALWAYS WONDERED ABOUT PATRICK...HIS MAKEUP IS INTERESTING AS HELL OMG AND YOU MAKE ME WANNA WATCH THESE MOVIES OVER WITH ALL THESE NEW INTEL ON THESE CHARACTERS
Best. Video. Yet!
Thank you for all of the hard work you clearly put into this one.
dude, you’re editing and attention to detail is so impressive . This was so well done. kudos!
I cannot imagine how much work went into this video. Bravo, Man. You deserve all the good things.
Me: can’t concentrate in class but can watch a two hour break down of a fictional character 💀
I got a lot of respect for your vids man. This is one of the best analysis vids ive seen on yt.
I did not expect you to go this hard but I’m living for it- best ever since your research on jigsaw series
I find it interesting that the song that played in the background when Patrick tells the bartender he wants to slit her throat and play around with her blood, True Faith by New Order, is the same song that plays in the Luka Magnotta video, 1 Lunatic 1 Ice Pick. Not saying there is a connection but I just found it interesting.
That was deliberate, Luka Magnotta claimed to idolize Patrick Bateman and was very interested/obsessed by American Psycho.
This was one hell of a deep dive into the movie. Thank you 😊❤
That was an awesome deep dive. I appreciate your hard work. I was inthralled and engaged the whole time. Thank you
Your analysis of the bridge from the movie to the books is very clear, I can tell you did significate research. Your content is great!
The tiny bit about Tom Cruise being a dick to Patrick is ironically the closest thing to real life
Another day. Another CZsWorld video to sink my teeth into. Thank you Zac for adding more books to my future reading list. ❤❤
this video was awesome and might be your best one yet. Thanks for the awesome horror history and cant wait for the next deep dive video you do
I really like this video, well done. The narrative, research and editing is excellent. Thanks for making it, American Psycho is one of my favorite movies.
Wow I really enjoyed this. Couldn’t stop watching until it was finished, awesome job man. I love the books and the movie !
You should do 1 about Angela Baker from sleepaway camp
REAL
This was a really great watch. You and Trap Lore Ross are Top Tiers 💪🏾
Just found you because of this video! Amazing job man 👏 Subscribed immediately 😊
You may never read this, but your Terrifyer, It, Freddy, and now American psycho videos made me push through my entire day of work. Thank you so much for keeping me company ❤
Whoa 2+hours! I need to wait and set aside a chunk of time for this one. Looking forward to it!
Love your videos! Can you do a horror history on “Candyman” and the legend behind it?
Your video was a remarkable piece of artistry, truly. The way you captured the essence of the subject was nothing short of sublime. I find myself so utterly captivated by the style and the substance of it, that I'm considering adopting its ethos as the core of my very being. It's not just a video, it's a blueprint for an entirely refined persona, a template for a new kind of elegance in this monotonous world
Oh hell yeah man I've been waiting and wanting you to do this one for so long thank you!!!