How To Learn A Back Full
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- čas přidán 29. 08. 2024
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Here is the easy way to learn a 'Back Full.' Coaches often teach athletes "Tilt Twist" but the problem is that a tilt twist is technical mathematical jargon that means nothing to athletes, and even many coaches. It is an analytical device, not a practical learning technique so instead do not worry about the pure technical analysis. That makes it way harder! Instead follow this Degree-By-Degree pathway!
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I've seen what you can do on various highlight videos here on youtube. Your high level of skill is amazing. What I find more amazing is that you are willing to put a tutorial up about such a basic move (relative to what you can do) to help out those of us struggling with a back full. This video has helped me a lot. Thanks!
Funny videos
His doubles and triples etc are AMAZING! OMG
I just learned how to do a full by myself today. My friend was like HOWWWW DID U DO TAHT
thats awesome hahhaha
Thank you! Really good tutorial. :-) Please don't stop them and make more tutorials.
You seem like the greatest coach ever!
This tutorial just keeps on giving bro... The more I learn and come back to watch this I keep absorbing new information from it. Really good man.
I got my back full today :)
+Lilyviolet CONGRATS!!
I already got my back full but this helped it a lot so thx
Awesome! More of these tutorials! They are very infomative!
This is great thank you, I will try and learn double full soon :D
Make sure you jump high enough for that :D
I'm self taught and I can easily double full. But this tutorial is great!
As late 40s flipper your tutorials have been amazing! A lot of twisting does NOT come easy for me. The way your break things down is much how I break down teaching jiu-jitsu and has really helped me understand what it is that I need to get my body to do. I have managed backfulls....and even did a 540 but doubles still elude me. Another trick I am dying to get is what you call a corkscrew (I learned them as Rudy cradles). I watched your tutorial on them in your instructor course but I just cannot get my body to both cradle AND twist. I have landed it on accident a few times, but can't make it work. Anyway....really just wanted to say thanks for your tutorials and I hope you put more out!
Thank you so much! Glad you are enjoying them and feel free to reach out for more tips to us from Greg Roe's website - www.TrampolineCoaching.com
You're awesome and I just subscribed I need to go and try this because I used to be able to do back full but with poor technique but with this I think I can get it back
It helps so muchyou have no idea!! Thx!!
i got my back full a while ago. im teaching myself standing backfull. i got a few times already off the tumble trak to a mat. i need to start doing fulls on tramp though for future competitions.
it will help you get the repetition :)
got my backfull thank you sm
about 2 months ago i attemped my first back 360 on tramp and i was doing thae fault throwing my arms to the side.....it was very clean but after now i understand but it can be more like gymnastick move and awesome
awesome! that is great! :)
thank you
Very very nice, as always with your tutorials! :D Thanks Greg!
Greg, I don't know if you'll see this question, but I'll ask it anyway. I want to progress as a gymnast on trampoline, but I feel like I have a serious mechanical issue with the way I spin. I'm a left twister when rotating backwards (back full, back double full), but I'm a right twister when rotating forwards (barani, rudy, fliffus, and roundoff). This difference in spinning direction makes some tricks impossible for me to do (like a rudy in back full out), and it makes connecting forward and rearward twisting tricks difficult. I don't really feel all that comfortable twisting right on my rudy, then hitting the trampoline and reversing the spin direction to twist left on my back double full. My question comes in three parts: 1) How big of a problem is this? 2) If it's a problem, and I need to change the direction of rotation for either forward or backward spinning tricks, is it easier to change the direction of my rearward spin or my forward spin? 3) Is it too late to correct this problem? I've been spinning and flipping both forward and backward for over 10 years, and I don't know if it's even possible or safe to try and correct this issue.
Have you ever coached someone with this problem, and if so how did you, if at all, guide them through correcting it?
Hi,very good information,sorry for the bad language I only have the video,could you sometimes to release the video of the training are similar in the complexity of items,or to disassemble the complete front 1.5.2.3,it would be very cool if you would have had Russian subtitles) thank you and good luck!
Thanks so much.. I did triple full
that's great!!!! :)
nice tutorial, never seen it taught this way before but seems quite good, and for a triple full I wouldn't say you have to sacrifice height to twist, more so on quad and quin. would love to see a tutorial on more advanced stuff or like tips and tricks to getting skills, im having really trouble getting full in half out :(
Craig Fyfe i should do one on full in half out- that one causes problems even for the top guys. :)
ah really? that makes me feel a bit better haha look forward to that video then :)
Thnx for the help, man! I'm forever grateful!
+Andy Romero no problem im glad you like it :)
Please make an entire, thorough tutorial/drills set that we can buy. Thx.
+Adam Bein go to www.trampolinecoaching.com - i have a certification for sale- but its more of a textbook. i am working with other content contributors to develop a full tutorial video series :)
Thank you so much!
not a huge deal depending if you compete or not
Hey Greg! I love your videos a lot btw. I have my back full off of the DMT consistently but I'm still struggling with having an instinctive twisting direction. Any tips for helping me learn to commit to a direction?
just pick one and do it a million times. th brain will naturally send signals that direction faster over time. :)
Thank you!!
nice tut thanks!
trying standing double fulls now
I can do that
;-) ;-) ;-)
It's really fun
Nice tutorial. I'm a diver (started 2 years ago) and I'd like to learn the back full on the trampoline but I'd rather use the diving twist position (one arm above the head and the other tucked to the chest). Should I just do the same drills or should they be modified?
Hey man! These are so helpful! Could you make a short tutorial on kicking out different somersaults? I cant understand the concept and double pikes with a good kick out look so good!
will do:) hahha
+Wei Jun Lee weiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
Great videos man! :)
thank you!
Im going to try this, im getting the problem of flyng back on a double, maybe if I clean it I could even move to tripple, can U please make a tutorial on: Cody and Kaboom full ( im realy strugulling whit both
I try to set when I do it but if I set I get like no rotation
Sherwood PK & FR thats normal, you just need to keep at it, 100 repetitions of one drill is peanuts. and just keep building. your brain learns quick, youd be suprised
hey Greg I tend to spin all the way around but I land on butt/back and it's a pretty violent impact any tips I ha e had friends say slow the flip down any advice I can send you a video of it if that would help
i can do a back three quarters but i just cant seem to get myself round that last quarter... it might just be because my trampoline isnt bouncy at all
how many have you actually done? the bod takes time to learn the actual twist this way, its probably a lack of numbers
alex price this is what gymnasts do to look good if on gtramp you gotta throw from takeoff and use your legs at takeoff as well, it may not look good but at least you can do it
Ashley Robinson don't do that
Had the exact same problem, and the fear of even trying returning. The last quarter is.. a trust issue. I finally got over the fear by trying it from a trampoline into water today though!
I have always had the problem of keeping my legs straight. Any tips?
How come whenever I try I do like a backward sideflip and the if I'm lucky I keep turning after the flip into a terrible full
Greg, why around 7m mark you're saying that you don't want to sacrifice the twist because you don't want to break or ankles. Is that because you don't want to land while still twisting? Is that dangerous or just an exaggeration? :-)
Hey Greg can you please explain how to keep your legs straight
you simple have to use the musles and think about it... most people do not think about being "tight" in the air :p
When I half twist I can keep my body straight and twist after toes are directly above or at 45 degrees from start. But I can’t complete the full if I do that. When I full I torque a bit from start and more pucked. I find it hard to do a nice full like you
The best tutorial I've seen on this, but I'm having trouble landing on my back after half turn? End up on my bum or feet. How can I fix it?
you are doing 3/4 back stomach drop bounce half turn to seat drop, instead of staying flat on your back? (Sitting up) , go lower and forget form, just land stomach bounce 2 times on stomach and then turn over. bouncing extra on stomach will give you time to properly think about staying flat. You are going to fast i would guess. Send a video if anything on instagram :)
If i don't have a good trampoline will this be harder to learn? Also I need to work on my layout. I have a video uploaded if you need to check it out and see. I can do a tuck on the ground (Haven't done in a while though... still working on getting it back) and I really want to start twisting.
like anything there is something to be said about the equipment but for this skill you should be able to do it on any trampoline, good or bad. you dont need height for it.
I just don't get I try and I try all the time to do a back full I do all the steps you told me too but I just can't I need help
I just sent it then worked it out by trial and error
Lifting your left arm UP creates the twist, the arm moving across does nothing. It's the left arm lifting on the 3/4 back that makes you twist. Later on in the video when you do the full it's your right arm dropping to the SIDE that makes you twist. Right arm first then left arm. Basic tilt mechanics.
@Chase Waldrep
Greg I'm on a gtramp and I can't go high enough to do the progression you taught
you need a better g tramp or more muscles :p - can you send a video?
+Greg Roe I'm actually pretty strong my main problem is that I'm only 94 pounds and I can't find a way to twist with straight legs which helps extremely
id have to see your videos... i was 94 lbs but was strong :) its not a wirhgt issue its a body coordination and strength and flexibilty issue ussually
Please do double rotation tutorial
Jake McDonnell i have a few about how to flip and cause rotation
I meant as it double backflip and double frontflip, I couldn't seem to find one Greg Roe
Help! Y can only do a half , i did a full before nut i fell and im scared ,also i dont habe a tramp
I can’t do the half turn after the backflip
i've got my triples down pretty easy but i am having trouble staying upside down long enough for a quad because when i try to keep spinning for a quad i will over rotate the flip. do you have any tips for that?
John Bull if you can do 3.5 to back drop half turn to feet you will amke it easily... id be willing to bet if you do 3.5 you will end up sitting up like a seat drop...
Someone help please? I learned front flip twists first and I throw my right arm and spin to the left but with backflip twists I learned myself to throw my left arm and spin to the right. Is this a problem?
Yes you need to change on of your flip twist
How would I be able to do a one and a half I have my full but I want my one and a half and my double
the video explains how to do that, you have to start with the 3/4 back flip and just build up step by step :)
Hey Greg in your title is written Back full and that's an outher thing as backfull
Niels Mertens i put it like that because when you search "Backfull" it is used less and most people use it as "Back Full" so it will do better in the search.
Great vid Greg, do you travel to copenhagen any time soon?
not yet, working on my next europe schedule- let me know if you want me to hit up your area
That would be sick. I go to a circus school in copenhagen called AFUK. I'm guessing your facebook page is a legit way to keep track of your tours?
i did a double full(in competition). Is twisting in a cody the same or do i have to do something different?
james smith to twist in cody u just have to wait longer i believe,
Nathan River u r correct, a cody and ball out are just the same technique but you wait until you are vertical then repeat the steps above.
If i do a front full and turn to the left way. Does anyone know which way i go for the back full? Does the direction Change?
no- front twist and back twist is always the same :)
Ok thanks. Just had o make sure before i started practising.
if your not sure about which side you should twist on some tricks just imagine doing a front full and right after a backfull! Just try to think of it you'll see!
my body wont rotate around more than once, tips? i tuck tight, i just need to spin faster.
+X2 Elite wach the "how to flip" tutorial :)
+Greg Roe I meant like spinning wise haha😂 even into a foam pit, I can't make my body spin more than once (360°)
How r u spinning so fast
Hey guys!!! Im going to be creating a subscription for non public articles, tutorials and interviews for those whoa re interested in learning more. email me at greg.roe@hotmail.com if you want to be put on the list :)
Greg Roe you're my favorite trampoliner just got triple full down 🤗😎
congrats!!! :) hahaha
Full out tutorial??
Bro I was watching this and I kept
Doing full down and I wasn’t even realizing it bruh this shit was so confusing to learn anyone from 2021??
I can keep my legs straight on layouts but when I comes to twisting I can not keep my legs straight
you have not developed those side leg msucles that keep the legs together. Just takes a bit of focus and repetition. i wouldnt worry so much about it if you are not competitive
Thanks
I can do a back 180 but I just can't turn the hole way
Make a 360° and then try it. I mean just a 360° spin and then instantly the next bounce try the back full ! Its a 99% garantie that you'll succses!
Mike, do not do what Bestialyzed Austrian Boxeur said lol you will probably get hurt lol
+Greg Roe Nah i dont think so its up to him but all oma friends and me tried it and non of them got hurt lmao
1.set
2.flip
3.twist
ok. i got it.
I nearly broke my ankle by doing the first step
i cant even do a cody but i can still do a back full .lmao.
My dang trampoline is so bad that I can't even do half of these
Steps
how old are you?
26 :)
so you're doing gymnastick since you were 6 yo?
Is it okay if you bend your knees a little
on what ?
So sorry I didn't reply for a while but on the single full I bend my knees while I twist but in double fulls I have straight legs
mpope321 yeah that should be fine as long as ur not tucking
I don't tuck I just bend my knees a little
I broke my neck beacuse of you
Sry my tramp is 7 years old I can’t go high
this way seems a bit scary o.o XDD
Matrix Dufek its actually easier :p just do lots of repetitions
Greg Roe ow I get it but Yeah I was a bit confused because a back in full out tutorial would be useful for me :)
pfff I wanna tramp like that
Dude you land on your face at the beg wouldnt that hurt xD
no- i did it on purpose to show it does not hurt :) hahaha
this didn’t help at all
Overall I do like the tutorial, but there are some fundamental problems. The techniques cater more to trampolinists indefinitely, so teaching the old school "wait, flip, twist" is impractical for gymnasts who don't have the time in the air to use a "wait" type of technique.
Secondly, what I also disagree with is teaching people those three steps in the air. Again, not only do most people when tumbling not have that much height in their flip to be able to "wait, flip, twist", but they also will not have time to be able to think about those steps in mid-air, so teaching that technique for gymnasts is not ideal.
Lastly, I don't know who ever decided that twisting immediately off the floor is "cheating"...like where did that come from? I hear so many old school coaches telling athletes not to do that, but for someone who wants to twist as much as possible (as in doing quads), waiting purposefully in the set is not the most efficient way to twist fast as it wastes time in the air that you could have used to already start twisting if you combine both the set and the twist in one motion and simply wrap fast and tight. Watch Kenzo Shirai do his back 4.5 to front full... nobody else on earth can do that (right now) and he twists immediately off the ground and makes it around because he perfected the "twisting set", so I would say that instead of this being "cheating", it's actually technique perfection.
Hey greg. I have triple on my garden tramp but it sometimes turns inconsistent im working on quad but i can only make it about a half and on a very rare occasion a full quad but i always crumple. (happened only twice) i really need help with that extra last spin. It seems when i gain more height i always spin slower. Not sure how i can fix that.
How r u spinning so fast