Watch This BEFORE Buying An Automatic Rebel 1100!
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- čas přidán 24. 04. 2021
- Should you buy a manual Rebel 1100 or should you buy a DCT Rebel 1100? Today, I helped put that to the test. I've owned my manual Rebel 1100 for over a month, and today my friend let me ride his automatic Rebel 1100. So...is the DCT really all it's cracked up to be? Do I regret buying my manual version? Or am I glad I steered clear of the DCT model? Either way, if you're on a Rebel 1100 then you made a good decision, but you'll have to watch to see which I prefer!
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Failed to mention that a DCT leaves your left hand free for holding more tacos. Other than that, excellent comparison.
Sold.
Hahaha how did I not think of that?! 😂
You need a taco basket onto the motorcycle, and a cup holder for your bee... I mean soda.
@@joemann7971 hahah I think you’re onto something here! 🤔
@@LifeOfBurch just dont forget the modular or 3/4 helmet to go with the setup, that way you can easily eat your taco drink your ....uuumm...... soda....
You'd certainly be a rebel then.
I've had 3 manual motorcycles, and thankfully, never had an incident on any of them. No crashes, no accidents and no drops. Stopped riding at the age of 40 to focus on spending time with my kids. Now the kids are grown and I'm 55 and want to get back into riding. The DCT option appeals to me because in an emergency situation when one needs to react quickly, the DCT means that there are 2 less controls to coordinate or worry about. Older riders may not have the same reflexes they did when younger, and I'm hearing older riders are a larger part of accident stats. So I see the DCT as a way of an older rider increasing his odds of staying safe under all scenarios.
Just turned 54. Two less controls making quicker response time good tactical thinking. Hope you enjoy riding again.
I'm thinking the same thing.
I’d be afraid to NOT have a clutch. To pull it in and kill power if I ever somehow lost control and whiskey throttled. How do you kill power quickly on an automatic when you lose control. I always ride with 2 fingers on the clutch.
@@GOTDRAGONS You can set the level of engine braking when throttle is reduced.
@@whammo11224 how do you reduce the throttle if you find yourself in a whiskey throttle
I’m a huge fan of the DCT, having arthritis, this is less painful on my hands and more enjoyable.
I bet DCT is a game changer for you! That’s one of the reasons why I think it’s an awesome option to have!
I have a dodgy leg and own an automatic car. I drive all week in a manual van. Last thing I want to do is drive a manual car. Changing gear on a bike is not so bad as pushing down a clutch pedal in the car. If anything makes life easier as I get older I'm all for it.
You are exactly who it’s made for! So you can riding till the end of time
DCT is auto?
I have foot drop in left foot so I can’t shift up or down so DCT is perfect
As someone that likes to shift early, I can’t see the DCT doing anything wrong.
In your other vids, there was always this voice in my head asking why you where riding so high up in the revs when you don’t even want to accelerate hard.
Different riders, different habits.
It’s so funny hearing everyone’s different opinions because I have another guy who has told me more than once that he thinks I shift too soon 😂 At the end of the day, it’s just up to how you personally ride. As long as you’re happy and having fun on your bike, that’s all that matters! 🤘🏻
@@LifeOfBurch Exactly!
@@LifeOfBurch really depends on what sort of engine you have. Twins and singles sit lower in the rpm range than the 4 cylinder bikes. An R6 needs to sit at 8k just for normal cruising. A ninja 650 is happy at 4k a xt660 is probably fine around 3k.
@@chrishart8548 Press X for Doubt. I have CBR600 and I regularly putt around town at 4k. There's never a need to be in that high of an RPM even on an inline 4 unless you're riding aggressive or anticipating acceleration.
I'm a manual guy, we picked up the DCT Rebel for the wife for 2 reasons. One she was worried about stalling from a start and she couldn't flat foot the FZ-07, the rebel solved both issues and now she is riding with me. Im super happy about that. Would I have bought a Rebel 1100 DCT or manual for myself? Nope would not have bought a rebel or would have even considered it for me, my bias would have never led me to get this bike I would have assumed the bike was not going to offer anything I wanted out of a bike.
Now that I have the bike I am super impressed with it. Its fast, its fun, it leans, super agile and confident inspiring. I'm actually really enjoying the auto i can concentrate more on throttle control ( which i think the throttle works great) . Blasting around my favorite road i love the fact it down shifts for me when Im pushing it.
So I think this bike if for 2 different kinds of people the newer riders and the experienced rider thats not worried about their man hood or womanhood going away without a clutch and likes the idea of not having to worry about shifting and enjoying the ride and the scenery more. For the newer rider does it take more skill to ride a manual yes no question but its no different between an auto and a manual in a car in my opinion. And to be fair autos have come along way and what is the difference between an auto blip up and down on a super sport bike and a DCT if were talking about skill. Super cars come with dual clutch transmission now too.
At the end of the day the decision is up to you think for your self on what will suit your needs. If you get the DCT you will be happy if you don't you won't know the difference and be happy.
Very well said!! Glad you and your wife are loving the bike!
I really like your comment. From my perspective, it is more of a safety feature as well. Definitely no stalling and more concentration on the traffic = safer ride. I don't feel like we can control the bike less. We just use a different technique.
I'm also a manual guy but I can totally apreciate that something like this exists. Just think about those people who have arthrites or other kind of pain that maybe limitates their use of the hands, and that may limit or even possibly give up on riding, because of this, now they don't have to anymore.
I'd probably still stick wirth manual if I were to get this bike, but I hope with time all bikes will offer this options. I know there's probably going to be a lot of posers who are going to snob this feature in order to look more "badass old school dudes" in the eyes of other, but in reality everything that gets more people into riding, is a big thumbs up for me.
Been dealing with leg pain on the left side and been afraid leaving my hand massage it ....but since automatic is good I'll give it a try ...also want to see the scenery without thinking what gear I switch
Glad y'all are enjoying bike.
I've owned 7 bikes and now have the DCT Goldwing and thought I would miss the shifting but I love the DCT you get use to it fast and would never go back .
I'd go back tomorrow
I am in Australia and purchased the DCT by choice. I have no issues with manuals and still ride my other manual bikes regularly. I chose the DCT because of the long open roads here and is so much easier to use the DCT with the cruise control rather than shifting down having the cruise control deactivate because you engaged the clutch and then reengaging the cruise control. The rebel 1100 is my solo long-distance bike, my 2021 Goldwing is also a DCT and is my long-distance bike with my partner, both have cruise control and the DCT works amazing with the cruise control. I also own an Indian roadmaster elite that is manual with cruise control, which is a big pain in the but having to reengage the cruise control every time I have to shift gears. I still have my Rebel 500 that I use around the Suburban areas, my Indian scout for fun and a Kawasaki Z125 pro that I use for just city commuting.
U have a lot of bikes..lol.
bike collections! nice.
I ride in user mode. I set my power all the way up, traction all the way up, engine braking all the way down and the DCT at standard. Thats the cool part about the user mode. Can set it as you like. The nice part to me about the DCT is commuting in a bigger city. So much less shifting to deal with stop light to stop light. The weirdest part about the DCT for me is super slow speed maneuvers. Like moving your bike around. Sometimes the throttle just wants to go, and others its just fine. Its a bit twitchy with no real way to control a 'friction zone'. Slow speed maneuvers you can drag the rear brake to simulate friction. From a dead stop or moving your bike around thats tough to do. All in all I like the DCT. Its certainly makes crossing a bigger city easier.
Awesome points there! I bet it’s a big help in the city, especially once you dial in your favorite user mode.
This. I was parking and had to go around something low speed and almost went through the door and dropped the bike 🤣. Definitely have to get used to low speed maneuvers.
.THE THING IS: Comparing the DCT in auto mode with a manual shift version of the same bike is a little bit like comparing apples and oranges. I have a DCT Honda and I love it. BUT... if I actually want to actively RIDE the bike, I shift the gears manually myself with the paddles. I especially dislike when the bike "decides" to downshift itself automatically in a corner - especially in sport mode. It's an unwelcome surprise and.... hey... that's MY job! But I really don't miss all the messing around on a manual tranny engaging my left foot and squeezing that clutch over and over again in traffic - or at any other time for that matter. And I DO appreciate the extreme ease with which I can instantly put myself in another gear with hardly more than a thought. I also don't miss fishing around for neutral when I come to a stop, or killing the engine because I didn't start or stop properly for some reason. The DCT, with its effortless manual shifting, seems very much a logical evolution of the motorcycle - at least to me. For many people, the DCT is tantamount to fixing a problem that doesn't exist: riders LIKE to shift gears with all their limbs involved. But I maintain that most people are not aware of the attention this takes away from other aspects of handling the bike or of just enjoying the ride more at certain times and I suspect that a number of riders would choose a DCT if they gave it a chance - and focussed on shifting the gears themselves. Likewise with the new electric bikes that have no gears at all but huge amounts of instant torque. As far as the automatic modes on the DCT.... those are great for traffic, long straight roads, riding with one hand, or any other times when you are constrained to low speed or uninteresting riding. And for most people there are a lot of those times getting out of a city to the place where they actually want to ride.. So as much as I'm not a fan of the automatic modes when I want to handle the bike around corners and ride down country roads, there are times when I do appreciate the auto options a lot. And Honda allowing you to shift gears in the auto mode is genius. Want more power to get out of a situation? Just downshift instantly - maybe twice - and blast your way out of there! If I buy an 1100, it will be a DCT and I will look forward to shifting gears myself!
I agree 💯 I always manually paddle shift on my 2014 ctx700, as I find the auto modes to be worthless, drive mode shifts too soon and sport shifts too late.. of course dct is improving every year so it could be considerably better by now
@@busybody1474 Same experience I just had a couple of hours ago. Very occasionally the dct auto modes come in handy - esp bc I can override and shift manually right in the middle of all that. But I mostly appreciate being able to shift so easily without a clutch.
Been enjoying your videos while I wait for my DCT.
I was a latecomer to riding and only got into it aged 45 when my son wanted to ride. I wanted to see the training needed to ride so to satisfy my own peace of mind for him.
I got hooked but only passed on an auto which meant I was limited and either go back and retake manual tests or end up on a Maxi Scooter ..then Honda came to my rescue and I bought the 2018 750cc Honda X ADV with DCT and love it but ALWAYS wanted a cruiser... when I spotted the CMX 1100 it was a no brainer and had it ordered 2 days after finding out about it.
Now I'm just waiting.. I've see all the videos and read everything on the Internet there's nothing left.. I just want my bike.
Thanks for your videos and keep posting 👍
Glad you like my videos and they’ve helped you! You’re going to LOVE the bike when you get it! It sounds like the absolute perfect bike for you!
I firstly would like to say thank you for this video. I never knew about DCT until this video came across my feed. As a disabled veteran who misses riding very much. I have been avoiding getting a bike again. But now that I know this is an option my ankles and wrist can be saved while riding. Thank you so much.
Thanks for the great analysis ..
Somehow this reminds me with car trends in the 80s, when folks used to prefer manual stick shift over automatic ones. Now manual stick shift vehicles are almost extinct.
I'm getting my rebel 1100 manual bordeaux red in a month. Super stoked about it! Your videos have been very helpful, entertaining and informative. Thank you!
That’s awesome!! I bet you’re super excited! And I’m glad my videos have helped!
As someone who wants to get into a bike for the first time to just cruise around I would love a DCT
Nice comparison video. I’d say that’s the best video on CZcams on this topic, well done.
Still can’t see ever getting the DCT... but I respect the fact Honda has this option.
Thanks dude, I appreciate that! 🙌🏻
Great video. I can see reasons for a DCT and I wouldn't hate on anyone for getting one, but I want to do my own shifting. Keep up the great work and don't let the haters get to you!
Great video! One thing though. I have an NC 750x DCT and I wanted to let people know that the DCT on my bike actually “learned” my riding style and slowly adjusted shift points up and down over time. It shifts totally different now than it did when I first got it. I’m assuming it would be the same on all the DCT models, but I could be wrong.
That sounds pretty accurate. Most autos in modern cars do it, so I would think that Honda would be able to program their DCT to do the same. I know my Fusion's trans shifts totally different now from when I bought it last year
wow that's pretty cool actually.
Really enjoy your videos. Great enthusiasm and thorough explanations.
Very useful video on how the DCT acts on the Rebel 1100. Thanks a lot.
I have been thinking about buying a Rebel 1100 but sometimes using the clutch hurts so I really appreciate this DCT comparison.
I'm a manual kind of guy. But when I see a Rebel DCT video, I click
Good comparison video. You definitely made some solid points. For me though, I’m getting the DCT version as I actually do not enjoy shifting that much & I missed having the DCT back when I owned a NC700x😂
3:53 straight up ran that red light 😂😂😂
You only yolo once 😂
I truly cannot wait to own the DCT... I love manual but I'd gladly love to own a DCT for control
Yeah u lose more control by putting it all in the computers hands. Computer fails. U die
@@seanbutler2291 They have been making it for 10 years don't sound like an idiot
Great observations - you have me thinking now as was heading DCT
It's still a manual for me but great comparison between the two. My dealer is supposed to have more 1100s in the next couple months. All I have right now are your Sunday vlogs. Thanks. 🤙
Glad you liked it man! Hopefully you’ll have your 1100 before you know it!
Fascinating and very useful - Being an old slow guy I think I could get along with the DCT just fine - although I'd probably switch to manual mode when not in traffic (in traffic I see it as one less thing to screw up - not that I ever do that).
This was an excellent idea!
Best review of the DCT so far!
Thanks man!! 🙏🏻
Agree 100%.
You missed the fact that the transmission shift point, even in D mode, will adjust by varying the RATE at which you throttle up. I’m guessing you are not as gentle with your throttle input when starting off with your manual transmission as you were with the DCT. I think you’d find the DCT responsive to initial throttle input - the more and quicker your throttle input, the higher the shift point will become. However, after a period of time at a constant throttle, the DCT will default back to standard (D) mode.
I can’t wait to get one of the DCT models in the future. Haven’t ridden since dirt bikes in my teens and I wanna ease into riding with this type of motorcycle. Good video btw.
The DCT was the absolute best way to get into my first bike I think . I love it more than words can describe
I mean if u have absolutely no mechanical skill at all. It still wont help cuz it wont teach u to ride a manual. So ur stuck with the few dct.
@@seanbutler2291 yeah what’s wrong with being stuck with a DCT?
Every problem riders have with the difficulty of riding I don’t have . No stupid clutch or not being able to find neutral or shifting funny etc. no problem killing it or going uphill. No problem doing U turns .
It’s literally better in every way
@@FraldinhoBJJ then get a scooter. Theyve been clutchless for years. My point is theres not many that are dct and the ones that are, are mostly space rocket dad jean bikes. The rebel excluded. So if u ever do want something else ur still guna have to learn, so seems pointless to say its good for new riders, cuz its not. Ur better off learning the fundamentals on a lil beat up 250-500.im sure dct is guna be coming up more and more, but not that soon.
@@seanbutler2291 I don’t need a fucking scooter I have a rebel 1100 we have already been over this .
@@seanbutler2291 the funny thing about people who claim everyone else is stupid is they end up being stupid .
If you want to shift manually, buy the DCT and run it in manual mode. Shift without a clutch. It's like having a quick shifter you shift with your fingers. I can't see any argument in favour of the manual model, apart from the cheaper price.
Weight and friction zone
thinking of rebel for 1st bike, pretty much sold on the manual now lol.. thank you for great video
Thank you for the nice review thorough and informative definitely helpful in the decision making process good job!
Appreciate the review. thanks for posting.
As someone looking to buy a bike for the first time, I would buy this in a heartbeat.
Annapolis is a beautiful, historic town. Many fond memories there. Thanks for the memories.
I've had a stroke so my left hand sometimes doesn't work like I want it to. Sounds like the Dct would be perfect for me. I have ridden 30 plus years. Want to buy a bike get back to riding. Love your videos. Any suggestions or comments would be appreciated
It sounds like this bike would be perfect for you! And situations like yours are exactly why I think the DCT technology is so cool. I think you could easily hop on this and be fine because really the only work your left hand has to do is selecting which riding mode you want. And even then, you just need to figure out which mode suits you best, then set it and forget it!
I had a 700 DCT and now a Gold Wing. I do not miss the clutch. You still use your left hand, just not nearly as much. I like to manually downshift the DCT to slow down and I’m hitting the “-“ button all the time....give that a try. I wish other manufacturers would offer DCT technology but Honda’s system works perfectly.
Same for me as due to drop foot I can’t upshift a manual.
I love my dct, I can enjoy the scenery, and I always use my paddle shifters to control the bike. Good video!! Awesome
What is the downside to DCT is if you just keep it in manual mode?
I have nearly 20k miles on a Honda DCT motorcycle, I'm perfectly capable of riding a manual. The DCT is just better in every way for street riding, imo.
😂🤣
Hey Burch, I just chose the manual because of this..... thanks a lot for the video!
Free spirit! Running through the red lights and stop signs. Great tutorials for new riders
Burch yet another great video. Congrats on 10k subs. You deserve it.
Can you please do a video on the camera(I’m guessing GoPro) , mic and how you mount it. Im the dummiest dummy on this topic. But I want to record a few trips that I’m making. Also, how you record it while driving(like starting recording and stopping). Any info will be great. Thank you very much
I'm going to be a new to the motorcycle world and I'm looking forward to the dct I think it will help me get into cycling more smoothly I enjoyed your honest review of the bike great video
Great videos man. I'm thinking about getting this 1100 with the DCT.
I'm honestly so glad I didn't see this before I bought my bike 2 months ago. I'm pushing 30 and never learned to drive a stick shift. I bought an R3, and used CZcams videos to teach myself to ride it. I probably would have bought an auto / DCT if I knew the rebel had that option, but I'm glad I didn't, since now I can ride a wider variety of bikes.
The concept of a DCT really appeals to me. I suffered a back injury a few years ago which did some nerve damage in my lower back and legs. After a certain period of riding, my left leg seizes up, I either have no control in my leg or foot or my leg just cramps up. If you're on a bike in traffic, a cramped leg is the last thing you want, so I gave up riding for my safety and the safety of others. Now, I think I can start riding bikes again, and not just ride the couch!
as a new rider i was wanting to get a honda rebel but i decided after watching this i am going with the can am spyder, thanks for the video
There’s always going to be negative feedback on perspective. Just keep doing your thing man. I’m glad I stumbled across your channel.
Thanks man! That means a lot!! 🙏🏻 Glad to have you here!
@@LifeOfBurch unfortunately as the channel grows you will probably get more and more assholes commenting. Just do your best to ignore them trolls! :P
Last month I went to purchase a 500 or 1100, but the only one within a hundred miles was a DCT. That's why I ended up snagging my Iron 1200 instead (and it was a screaming good deal). If I had a medical condition that limited my shifting abilities then I'd be on the DCT in a heartbeat! On that note, anyone near Texas wanna trade their manual 1100 for my Sportster? 😂
Btw congrats on 10k subs! Totally deserved, my dude. Keep up on the quality content like this 😎👍
Thanks so much man!! I appreciate it! Hopefully you find someone to trade you for an 1100 soon enough 😬
Enjoyed your review 👍
I bought the manual model but would love to try the DCT just to see what it's like. I get a pretty good idea from this video. Thanks for another great review. I was hoping you would ride it in fully manual more though.
If you try the DCT, don't overlook shifting manually with your fingers. I suspect that a lot of riders think that one is "supposed" to use the automatic options for everything. Not true. When I'm having the most fun on my DCT, I'm definitely shifting it myself.
Fun video! Thanks for sharing!
Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching!
also an early shifter, i love the serenity of cruising at low revs. on a 1999 Valkyrie! plenty of power!
well made video, great comparison. subscribed!
Ayyy welcome to the fam! I appreciate you subscribing! 🙏🏻
Enjoying your videos
Thanks for the video comparison. I am getting a Rebel soon, I hope.
Thanks for watching! I hope you’re able to get your Rebel- you’ll love it!
@@LifeOfBurch I have to be patient. Hard to find one. I know this may not be important for you but I would like you to do a video on gas consumption or mpg. Gas prices are going up.
More than anything you proved how awesome the dct is. Manual is great but not having to fool with a clutch is a huge bonus.
What once every 2 years you need to top up the fluid or get a new cable....ommgggg soooooo difficult.
I've had a DCT bike for 5 years now. I love it way... more than my manual bikes.
Me too.... even though what I love most about it is using the manual mode and shifting with such ease.
At the end of the day, as long as you are on two wheels and enjoy the ride. Do it! I have manual bikes and I plan on getting the DCT for a bit of change.
When you do, don't forget to enjoy the extreme ease of shifting in manual mode!
Great review!
Thank you!! 🙏🏻
The first on road motorcycle ride was on a Hondamatic. I didn't like having to shift into 2nd. That was the only clutchless motorcycle I have ridden but now an automatic could make riding less painful.
I am a big fan of DCT, so choice for me is simpel.
3 hears ago my intention was to buy a new Guzzk V7, but I gave the NC750 with the DCT a try, just for laughs. I was an instant fan of the DCT and bought an NC750XD.
Cute town, looks very much like The Netherlands.
Digging these videos. I keep wanting to use the word "Hon" as you blip around 'Naptown...
I don't know but it just feels like manual you are more in control of the bike!
In my opinion manual transmission is the essence of riding after all !
Great video bro ☝💯👏💖
Absolutely agreed! Thanks!! 🙌🏻
Totally agree. But do check out my long description above about just how nice it can be to shift the bike manually with the DCT using paddles.
Its hilarious how many people think they have more control with the dct. Like naw u gave it all to ur computer.
thanks. agree with you. i'd go for manual transmission myself. i've ridden an automatic CanAm. while it was fun, like you, i like the feeling of control a manual has. i definitely plan on test riding the 1100, whether DCT or manual.
This bears no resemblance to the “automatic” Can-Am. This is a true dual clutch, not a sequential box with a servo actuated clutch and shifter. The whole “control” issue is a myth, you are no less in control with a DCT, it has a manual button for a reason.
I have extreme arthritis in my left foot from an industrial injury. The Honda Rebel 1100 DCT looks like a fantastic option for me to enjoy the roads on a motorcycle again.
I think it would be perfect for you! Reasons like yours are exactly why I think DCT is such a cool feature to have!
Excellent review, getting a manual one soon,( or an Indian ftr1200 )
One thing, in manual, the bike holds the gear your in longer the more you twist the throttle )
Hope to be a new Rebel 1100 soon, I think you convinced me to go for the Honda instead of the other brands!!
Thank you thank you…. I needed this video.. LOL. I bought my Rebel 1100T in early December. I was on the fence about getting the dct or the standard but I wanted the 1100T and for 2023 it only came with the dct. Soo. My first ride bringing it home I couldn’t tell how it was because I was freezing. It was maybe 40 Degrees that day. Side note I’m very happy I got the heated grips😊. I took it out the next day. It was warmer. Anyway, I was struggling with the way it shifted. Way sooner than I would have shifted. I was like, why am I in 6th gear going 30 mph?? And going up a hill it felt like it was bogging.. very frustrating. Then I realized it was in user mode
. I changed it to standard and it seemed better. I needed this video so I knew I wasn’t crazy. LOL. After talking to my friend about the experience she just said “well that’s the way it’s supposed to be”. Yeah no. Anyway. I’m looking forward to warmer weather and getting out and figuring out the right combination for me. I do love the bike and by the end of my ride the second day I had it, I was liking the dct. I was still doing the clutch grab though. lol. And yeah the whole not knowing how fast your going thing….. yeah that’s a thing…. lol. I noticed that to as well.. thanks for the video. I feel much better know. Ride safe. Oh and yeah I wanted the red but it wasn’t going to be available for 2024 so I settled for the black.
I am a re-entry rider, meaning I quit cold turkey one day in 2000 after a bunch of bikes and the last three being Honda Interceptors. I'm ready to start riding again and even bought some boots so I can't turn around now. I sat on the Rebel 1100 today and it was SO comfy. I'm 6 feet tall and it felt perfect. I really want the clutch 1100 version.
I feel like rain mode would be a good mode for beginner riders to start off at. Ive seen a bunch of people say that got this as there first bike and said they started on rain mode and worked there way up till they were confident on the machine. Im a going for my license over the next month. I definitely want a rebel but i dont want to get a 500 just to be bored of it after a year and a dct is every appealing to me despite knowing how to shift.
The early shifting is for the mpg figures a very important factor in todays guidance to get approval for sale in certain countries and some states in America, if you don't like it you can customise your settings for more in the power mode which holds gears longer but watch out for that right wrist twist the bike can wheelie if gunned in first and second, or use manual mode but watch for the ECU override which will cut in and protect the engine from over revving or stalling.
I have been riding for 33 years and personally would never buy an auto but you do you.
Careful with traffic lights man. At 3:53 you ran one. It was red before you crossed the stop light.
For someone with arthritis this may be a good option that will allow you to keep riding.
This is a great option for people that want to get into bikes but dont want the manual bikes. For begginers its more time to ride and less time thinking about how to shift and when to shift.
I have the CTX700N dct and sport mode is the only mode I drive in as it is the closet to the feel of manually driving. Got a sub from me bro I'm from Maryland also.
I am getting an 1100 for my first bike and have never rode. Wanted a DTC to learn on but a really good deal fell in my lap for a 21 manual. Figured the automatic would be just less to worry about at first.
Yes that burgundy is a very nice color for any type of transportation machine ...
thanks for the content
Thanks for this 👍🏼
Glad it helped! 🙌🏻
I have a ctx 700n with the dct and agree with most of your points. It just has drive, sport, and manual mode. I use drive when I'm just cruising and normally go into sport when I get caught in slow traffic (it has a shift point right around 35 mph and it's shift up and down constantly when not in sport mode). I came from a Suzuki burgman 400 and probably would have stuck with it if the dct hadn't come out. Getting it at 50% msrp also helped 😂. I've been thinking about upgrading to the rebel 1100 but am not sure if I'd gain much other than cool factor 😎.
The "D" option controls how soon/late it shifts through the gears. I have a DCT and it is a little weird, but I haven't messed with my D mode in user mode. Overall I love it though.
Cool vid bro thx. One of the few that actually shows operation of modes and switching A to M etc especially while riding. I didn't know if you could switch modes on the fly or if you had to be at a stop or under a certain speed. I agree with a lot of what you said. Rain mode felt twitchy to me but mainly just 1st gear transition. Haven't had much time in sport yet. I just bought a new one and didn't realize about the user mode. I think that's a great idea to keep the power and EB of standard but shift points of sport didn't know you could do that. Still trying to figure out how I'm going to get used to all the options without killing the battery I feel like I have to learn the bike while it's running bc there's so much tech lol. Overall I love the bike though and the option to have both manual and automatic.
How do you manage to talk so much when you are videoing, you are a natural. thank you for the entertainment and I am loving your videos, all the way from England. 👍😉
I have a dct car honestly it's great, you get used to it quickly. D mode for cruising , s for driving quick, and manual mode for full control and speed. I mostly use d and manual but everyone's different. I want to get an nc750 one day when money allows. Great video
Huge fan of the DCT. Its my first bike, ride it every second i can. True love. That being said, i am planning to do the exact same thing as you and getting a Grom this summer. Most likely the 2022 for the five speed. - Livin in the Nap Town area, So i will see you around at some point I'm sure.
So I can’t remember if you mentioned it on your earlier video or not but a common complaint seems to be that the mid controls just take away from the cruiser experience. What’s your take on that now that you’ve thrown a leg over both models?
I think a forward control dct would be dope!
Test rode both the DCT and manual yesterday after getting off my regular ride being a DCT NC750S-
It was expected with the DCT with me riding that all the time with the 750, shifting in the same points. I have found the DCT box generally is ok, but frequently shifts where I wouldn’t.
The manual ride just felt so much more relaxed and in control to me. I’m going to go for the manual on my next buy after riding the two.
I'm 18 years old and I'm currently looking into riding a motorcycle since I won't be getting my license until February of next year so I will definitely consider this bike and the price range
i was thinking about this bike but wasn't sure yet, how is the setting on this is it comfortable when riding, compered to your 1100 or is it the same? Great Video keep them coming.
I’m a all weather rider in Ireland 🇮🇪 of 35years and Irish weather is damp and cold my feet are bad my hip so auto is a game changer for me
I ride an Africa Twin DCT, I'm pretty sure they took the engine and tranny out of the AT for this bike. As many have noted, D mode shifts stupid early. Maybe it's an EPA thing? Stick with "S" modes for regular driving and you'll be much happier with the performance.
Also, be careful of accidentally bumping the throttle while stopped. It's throttle by wire so there's no cable slop and just a tiny nudge will send you moving. You can't pull in the clutch so you grab the front brake. Now the throttle's pinned in place. Yeah, that engine's way more than powerful enough to push the bike forward even with the front wheel locked. Straight into the back of some guy's truck, in my case.
Not SUPER big into an automatic, however having a paddle shifting manual mode is really interesting to me. I need to find a honda demo day some time and try one of these or a Goldwing to get a feel for it.
Great videos. Can you make a video trying out a Rekluse auto clutch?
I think the DCT can learn how you shift and adapt. You might like it more after resetting the DCT and letting it learn your riding style :)
You seem to not quite 'get' DCT transmissions. Yes, it will shift on it's own, but that doesn't make it an "automatic transmission" like many/most cars have - those are based on a torque converter, but the DCT has an actual clutch - 2 of them - and gears just like your single clutch version.
You spent a large portion of this video talking about the auto shift function wasn't quite right for you. Just Keep It In Manual. Then the bike will shift on your command, with just a flick of your index finger or thumb. That's how I ride almost all the time.
Then WHY tf get a crappy dct then??? Jus get the manual. And yes its still an automatic....it shifts automatically, makes it an AUTOMATIC. Sports cars with paddle shifters are the same, still automatic with paddle shift option.
I have the DCT on my CTX700. It is a porker, and has a whopping 49hp. Around town its great to have the DCT, but it is sometimes annoying when trying to pretend it can handle the CO mountain roads.
I tried the DCT version of the Goldwing, and it was amazing. I'm a short, athletic guy. I look like a kid sitting in Grandad's ez chair on the Goldwing. Still, it floated at more than 5mph. I am dying to try the DCT on the Rebel 1100, especially since rumor has it they will also use this engine in a standard, UJM style bike soon.
I'm also 45 and didn't start riding until 10 years ago, so that is probably some serious bias on my part.
Thanks for this review. I've been on a 500 for 2200 miles in the last couple months (first bike) and I've been thinking about that next bike. I was interested in the Indian Scout Sixty but I really like the seating position of my Rebel and it's light weight hence I'm now considering the 1100. It was wasn't on my radar because of the chain drive but now that I'm checking out reviews it's a very intriguing option besides the chain. Too bad the 1100 doesn't have a belt drive.....or shaft. As I'm checking out reviews for both DCT and manual I have to say I'm leaning towards manual but I wish you had given the manual shift with triggers here more in depth riding and exploration. Would love to have seen what an ride in the twisties while riding aggressively was like while manually shifting and your impression then. If riding like that was essentially the same as a manual but without a clutch which I'm guessing it might be, I'd be down with that and even might prefer.
I am curious, what don't you like about chain drive?
@@ReeseFerrier Messy with constant maintenance using toxic chemicals and as a cancer survivor that has been treated 3 times now I like to keep my exposure to toxins minimal.