Hey Scout, what do you think about those old school Shopsmith multi tool work stations that we used to see on TV back in the 80s. I have an opportunity to by a Mark V but don’t know if they are of any real use or good quality. Did you ever use one?
@@JohnSmith-yl6dn Hi John. A friend had one and it worked okay for a hobby shop with limited space. Since the one powerhead ran everything the footprint was less than having several dedicated machines. The drawback is that you can only perform one operation at a time and each required a separate teardown and setup.
@@JohnSmith-yl6dn A friend from work back then had one. Very pricey,I thought,but really.cool and useful and some models were better/ or/ worse than others. Compare that and the former/current price and condition for your budget and you just might have a winner. Good luck. 🙂✌️❤
Huge Shout-out to Scoutcrafter for helping me so much as I recover from a life changing surgery.The videos are great inspiration to keep on keeping on! Thanks again for all the work you put into the videos.Enjoying my new passion in beautiful SW Michigan!
@@aaronmohr5285 Aaron my buddy Cliff made that and he has a great channel on making all sorts of small projects! Go check him out here! czcams.com/video/MGx606AnbXY/video.html
@@aaronmohr5285 Fellow MICHIGAN denizen here,CALHOUN COUNTY. 🙂✌️❤ Glad you made it. Last year in JULY 2021 I went to the hospita😷l and died,was on machines to do my breathing for me.🤕 Strangely (to me) I was back home five days later,but I still have some lingering problems to this day. But I thank God and all those who helped me to be alive today.👍
That vise is coming along great as always and for pipes he is showing you appreciation and feeding you because you are one of the pack so enjoy the gifts he brings it's his love for you
Great video John 😃 I have to say your cat must love you very much to bring to such nice presents. Think about it, he can’t bring you a tool to show its love. Nice helpful information on the vise! Thank You for sharing !
Jack- Pipes is such a good boy, I remember when I had to get him and his two brothers fixed at the vet I picked them up and I felt so bad knowing what they just went thru. I came home and the two brothers weren’t happy with me but Pipes came over for a hug…. 😃👍
I enjoyed your video today. My brother lost his fight with cancer this morning and we had some family things to take care once that day was over I cam home and watched you video thinking of my brothers who was one of those men in the world that just understands anything mechanical you placed in front of him. I watched this video thinking of him and cried my eyes out. Thank for such a simple cleanup and polish on this vice. I have been up for hours and running on pure adrenaline. Thank you Scout Crafter. My brother name was Duane and he was my hero I will miss him but I have all the good people with this channel.
Hello David- I am so sorry for your loss, I have also lost much of my family to Cancer and even though we have some notice of what is to come when it happens it is still like a punch in the gut. You must always remember that one day we will all be together again... I promise in time you won't feel sad over Duane's passing but remember the many good times you two have shared...
That cleaned up so nice...wow. I have had my fair share of projects that wanted to fight me every inch of the way...those project always involve some sort of stupid pin 🤣🤯. Cheers
Hi,Great fan of your channel. I think you do great restorations. I learn something new every time I watch. Can’t wait to see how the vise turns out. I did notice when you had the vise upside down showing were you drilled the pin out, I saw a round little circle between the lettering (No0L4)⬅️the big 0 represent the circle.)) I think that is Where the other pin is at. That looks like something that vise company would do. I know you said you were done with it but just wanted to know if you see it before you prep it for paint. Love the idea 💡 for the bushing for the vise that was awesome! If you don’t have a lathe how else can we install a bushing like that? Can we use pex pipe or brass tubing? Well like I said I enjoy your channel and can’t wait to see the finish restoration.Best channel on CZcams 😄👍
Steven- I just looked back at the video and I believe you are 100% correct! I see the circle now that I blow up the video! I did think the other circle I drilled was too low to engage the slide but your pin location looks correct! Thanks so very much and great observation!!!!!
Heartwarming to see this vice come back to life! Especially so since this is an 'inexpensive' vice. What I mean is that for whoever HAD this vice --- It was what they could afford. So seing it restored really makes me smile.
Hello Scout, fantastic project, looking forward to part 2, I have arguments with inanimate objects all the time 🤣.. you might have seen UK comedy series from the 70’s called fawlty towers, where he his hitting his car with tree branch because it will not start.. one of the funniest scenes ever.. definitely worth a watch if you haven’t seen it! Great episode as always🙌 cheers Rob
great tutorial scout. got the tool bug at 12 or so years of age. my father was an engineer at Grumman on the island. Didn’t know a screwdriver from a pair of pliers. when I was 21 or so, my mother got me a craftsman bench vice for Father’s Day. my favorite tool of all
Nice job John this was the first vice I restored many vises ago. You are right they are a cheap one but you can make them nice. Look forward to see what you do.
Hey John, send me that cat.😁 I'm glad the straightening job on this vise didn't have to be un-done.🤣🤣🤣 I'm working on a vise clean up last few days, it will never be as nice as yours. Thanks for the videos
John, I get the feeling you are a part-time lathe salesman. I don't know how often I think "I need a lathe" while watching your videos! Please keep up the great job!
John, another crap to ice cream. My late friend, this was his favorite comment when repairing the race car. You remind me of him. He could do anything like you. John you have went farther on the restoration then most would. This is why I enjoy your channel. Thank you
PLENTY of snakes in New York and every town all across the country but LOTS in d.c. Biggest concentration in d.c. Brave kitty and a good vise to have. Beats smoking and drinking. Happy monday, Buddy and GBWYou! And an old impact you use with a hammer works really good too!
You'd think they'd have used a jig to align those jaw screw holes! I do like their ability to clamp pipes too. So often you need a second vice or jaw adapters to grip round stuff. If you don't have room on your bench for several vices, fitting a hardwood block to the bass enables you to fit one vice in another. Looks daft, but works well.
Pipes senses the work here if you eat here atmosphere at "His" home, and loves having such a great home, Pipes works hard as not to lose his 3 squares , tanks for sharing
Great video. I did learn a lot about vices today. Great advice. I have a few old vices that need help badly. Maybe I can use that cheap metal lathe. Thanks again. Can't wait to see the finish..
Great show John , thank you for the mention , it just so happens I've bought a 1gbp c.parker .... In a bit worse condition than that chief .... Nice to watch someone else sort a vice out!!
Looking good so far Scoutcrafter! I did a Littlestown vise a while back with the same sort of problems. They spit those things out by the thousands. There is a cool video on here showing them making them back in the late forties I believe. Take care 😃👍🏼
Great work on the vise so far. I need to find myself a decent vise to mount on my roll cab tool box. My eyes will be watching craigslist or marketplace. Wish me luck.
Hi Jon 👋, great resto as always n nice video 👍, quick question , a fair while ago you were talking about restoring a special old motor . Did I miss the video or are you working on it ?
Peter- Believe it or not it’s on my kitchen table! I am waiting for slightly cooler weather, the temps are still hot here and I try not to be in the shop more then 2 hours at a time now. It’s coming soon! 😃👍.
Talk about a coincidence. I "restored" a no name USA made vise myself today. I need to make one final adjustment because is has too much side play and doesn't always line up sideways properly. Thanks for sharing
To borrow a line from RoboCop, I'd buy that for a dollar! Neat little grass snake your boy Pipes caught there. Maybe I have a little cat in me because I used to find grass snakes, slow worms and newts and bring them home with me as a kid.
I always have had a deep respect (fear) of snakes and treated everyone I ever ran across as poisonous. Later in life I found that to be a smart practice as I have run across some highly poisonous snakes in the field. One day I was face to face with a Rattle Snake and it was coiled and shaking it's rattle... Needless to say I could have used my brown pants that day. =D
@@ScoutCrafter Luckily there is only 1 native species of venomous snake here in the UK that being the Adder. It's easy to identify given that there are only 3 native snake species in total here and it has very distinctive markings. As venomous snakes go it's not all that either. You're only at risk of death if you are a very small child, elderly or ill and even then the risk is low there have only been 14 fatal bites recorded since 1876 the last one was in 1975. We might have crappy weather most of the year here but we don't have venomous spiders, wolves, bears or big cats to worry about either.
Very nice work S.C... If that person had sent me the vice, it would have been the last time he sent me anything to repair... Lol.. I thought you were going to use a pc of delrin...the black stuff... But PVC worked great...Take care, looking forward to seeing pt 2...
Hi Gary- Since there is no wear or force on the bushing sleeve I use the less expensive PVC and also very available to anyone. It makes such a difference in these inexpensive vises! Thanks!
@@ScoutCrafter well u did a fantastic job.. as u always do.. can't remember who recommended your channel to me but I'm glad they did.. Take care and grab some good stuff on your midnight walks..
Had to go check my vise to see if indeed it.had a 'JAW-WERE'. 😁 Thanks for always being a good sport with my teasing.😉 I don't always agree when you erase the stamping/lettering on some tools but overall your methods and outcomes are decent and acceptable at the least for these restorations.👍 Keep it up. 🙂✌️❤ 🙈🙉🙊
I only remove lettering on tools that are considered junk or very common. My favorite projects are taking junk tools that are throw-aways and making them nice again. =D
@@ScoutCrafter I like to find old tools still in good to great,and,usable condition.and leave them and the patina as is and use the tools. I keep them all together usually in one tool bag or box. But I like your and many others ways,means and methods too. It's all good as long as they are being preserved and passed on with info to those behind us. 🙂✌️❤
I might finally have a tip for you that you don't already know. If you stop it it welding supply shop you can get this dye, it's very thin and usually red or pink. It's designed to find faults in welds but I've never used it that way. I have found it to be tremendously helpful particularly with cast iron locating fasteners that have sort of become one with the casting. It perfectly outlines tapered pins and does so precisely enough that you can take measurements to determine the taper. It's also a great trick for reading long lost engravings. Not nearly as good in HSS or cold rolled, but it's an absolute must have if you like to restore cast iron machinery. They sell a small one at a price that makes it tempting to buy the larger tub. The little glue stick size one will probably last your lifetime, the tub is false economy. The other reason I personally prefer the tiny one is that this stuff is not forgiving. If you spill some, it will find any deep spot and make it Pink. It's not that hard to clean off but surfaces you thought of as flat, well they usually are pink enough that it's not worth the trouble.
I must I must get some of that stuff if it brings out faded names in tools it sounds very interesting Ash Man gets out and trying out and make a film about it thanks for the tip
Hi John, great video as usual. Did you happen to see Engles Coach Shop where Dave rebuilt a vise that by his own admittance he abused to the point it failed. An interesting part was when he made new jaws and used his hydraulic press and a rasp to make the teeth in the jaw after he heated it up.
@@ScoutCrafter John, you bring your own set of skills to the table. I admire what you accomplish on your restorations and perspective on life. I actually found your channel after watching Dave's video where he shows off the wrench you restored and gave to him. I often watch both yours and Dave's video on my lunch break at work, gives me a few minutes away from the stress of my job. Thanks for all you do !
OK Scout fans in our next episode.. Will Pipes bring back new prey? Will ScoutCrafter paint the vice or keep it metal? Will the Dake be back? Tune in next time. Same Scout time! Same Scout channel! See you next time ScoutCrafter Fans!
Yeah 50/50 was developed during a university study on rust penetrants. They threw it in as an economic alternative to commercial products. Turns out it works as good as anything else does. If you're busting rust you're probably not rich so economics is a big factor.
I got a pair of channellock 430 from the 50's that have been used & abused. I saved them from a flea Market for $6. I don't have the proper tools and know-how to bring them back to life. I think it would be a great challenge for you to do. If you're interested in that I would love to send them your way and see what you can do for them.
That ledge sticking out that you ground off is probably why the vise was bent. The guy who bent it was perhaps trying to close the jaws and they were stuck open on the ledge??
I'm glad you said it instead of me! I was having the hardest time saying nothing because I had nothing nice to say. Littleton vices are probably my most hated tool on Earth. I literally won't take them for free. I think it is the vice version of the f wrench! I hate these vices with such a passion. I normally take apart and recycle absolutely everything metal. I won't even bother with these. The metal is not reusable for anything, it's completely honeycombed and I don't think any two vices have interchangeable parts. I don't know what genius decided to put the ram under the screw, creating the worst of both worlds, but I hope somebody smacked him in the mouth before his time was gone. Horrible creations. Worst of all, they are absolutely everywhere! It only takes 5 minutes of using one to know it is worthless, why did so many people save them? Or maybe that's exactly it. Maybe it came free with a decent quality workbench and everybody recognized it was crap from the very beginning so now we have a lot of stock
LOL- I agree 100% however I am shocked at the prices they fetch on eBay! People, for some unGodly reason like them! LOL I must say that with extensive work and a few mods you can make this into a usable LIGHT-DUTY vise. However I always try to steer people towards a better vise because in my opinion it is the most useful tool in the shop! =D
Hi John. You have Mish Mosh Monday and TGIF for Friday, but I've noticed that you don't have a name for your Wednesday videos. So why not ask your subs for a name for your Wednesday videos? My entry would be 'Whatever Wednesdays' 😁
Can’t help wondering if that protruding lip beneath the removable jaw was a contributing factor to that bottom bar being bent. If the jaws looked like they weren’t shut properly it would be tempting to the uninitiated to crank down on that bar and try and tighten it further rather than to look why it’s not gripping properly. Then presto, over tightened and bar bent.
John, I know you have explained your 50/50 mixes countless times over the years but is there a video you could point me to that explains each one and their uses. Thanks for doing these videos, they inspire me to get out in my shop.
50/50 was a research project some university did. They tested all kinds of rust penetrants and they also mixed up 50% acetone and 50% ATF and the 50/50 mix worked as good as any commercial product did. One of the goals of the project was a developing country economic angle. Poor countries don't have all kinds of money to throw away. Who does?
Hello Terry- I actually did a few videos on lubricants and really all are useful! Part 1- czcams.com/video/rbnfmG2b-Vs/video.html Part 2- czcams.com/video/PmeI8yMJLFg/video.html 50/50- czcams.com/video/CA8girXbobY/video.html Thanks!
LOL- My Press is a small bench top 10 Ton model. With these small presses they usually will spit the part out before exploding. =D However I never put a lot of pressure on a part I am worried about shattering. I have seen things explode and send shrapnel everywhere, most times with large big money hydraulic presses.
LOL Yes Pete! I believe the factory intentionally peened the bar to add some thickness, I removed it only to find I created more slop! LOL These inexpensive vises will really test your patients!
My female cat brings all manner of critters in to us; same are dead but most are alive. We can't seem to make her understand that she doesn't have to bring us presents. Oh well! Also, I know you've mentioned it before but do you prefer a paddle or slide switch on your grinder? See you on Wednesday. Jim
Jim- Paddle or trigger is the way to go- a momentary switch is required in many shops as they are safer. Slide switches will stay on after a mishap... Thanks!
It is a very cool vise though, but those littco's allways seem to get you into a lot of work. I own two I haven't got around yet, one has a jaw missing and that Ridge below missing and I'm figuring out how to deal with that still. I've heard cats bring you game because they what to show you how to hunt for yourself and don't under why you don't, I don't know if it's true or not, sort of does fit their characters though. I hope you'll have a great week!
Alex- The problem is it takes just as long to restore a junk vise as it does a good vise. After restoration the junk vise is still worthless but nice. 😂👍
Quick cat question. I've always only ever had dogs. Recently I've had a lot of mice downstairs so I was planning to get an outdoor cat. I placed an ad to this effect and basically got tore a new one. I was told repeatedly that having an outdoor cat was cruelty. I had planned to provide an indoor bed and litter box and feeding station and the weather is a very mild in the northwest. We do lose the occasional cat to eagles or coyotes though. I tried to do some research and I learned that outdoor cats are pretty ruthless killers of certain songbirds but I couldn't find any solid data on it being cruel to the cat itself. But the input I received was pretty consistent. There was only one or two voices that did not regard this as ethically wrong. I know we live in very different environments, but I don't know the first thing about cats. What is your opinion? I never even got a clear understanding of what these people saw as cruelty besides the predation but to me that's just part of nature. Obviously I don't want to see a pet get hurt, but presumably cars are much more fatal to cats than predators? So I'm open to views from both sides, I would like to understand the argument and make my own decision. I'm just not hearing any clear reasons one way or the other, just a lot of emotional response and testimonials. So what gives? What is everyone else's opinion? Is it wrong to have an outdoor cat? What's the minimum level of care that you see as ethically required? Quick edit; do you know of any other particularly effective rodent deterrents?
There are basically two types of common cats, house cats and feral cats. I have always had house cats that would scratch at the door and let you know they want to go out and after a couple hours would come in and eat and sleep. =) Last year for the first time a feral cat had kittens near my property and as any cat lover would do I started feeding them. Once they were big enough I caught them, took them to the vet and had their shots and all of them fixed. These were all outside cats now meaning that if I wanted to capture them and make them inside cats they would be very miserable. After a certain time outside cats become feral. Now I trained two of them to come inside once and a while but there are 2 others that will go crazy if you close a door behind them. (feral) They say the lifespan of a Feral cat is only a few years but there are always exceptions. House cats live about 12 years. Some cats are not good at mousing so getting one for that purpose is a crap shoot. I am no expert but I have 3 indoor cats and take care of 4 outside cats. They are all fed 3 times a day and fresh water twice a day. I would not have these cats if not for covid. However as they say Cats find their owners. =D As for the mice you have to eliminate the food source. They will leave. =D
My lathe is a Harbor Freight 7x10 lathe, it has served me really well however they don't usually make this model any longer, they make a 7x12 or 7x14. The second number represents the length of the bed. A longer bed is more desirable than a short one. If ever you are in the market for a small lathe, check out Little Machine Shop .com and go to their FAQ section on buying a new lathe. It covers many questions and concerns!
@@ScoutCrafter Perfect thanks. I want one and need to figure out my best option. A friend of mine has an old South Bend with no motor or tool holder. Not sure what I want to do. But thanks for the info I really appreciate it.
Hello Seb! Paul is right it is a Mooring Anchor! These are used to permanently or semi-permanently keep boat anchored just off shore. They drop this anchor and attach a small float to it and that is how you keep your boat in the water. To get to the boat you use a small row boat that is then returned to the shore while you are using your boat. =D
Hello everyone! Please remember the scammers are out in full force. I will never contact you personally or ask for anything! Thanks!! 😃👍
So you're not really shipping me a free Dake?!? I knew it was too good to be true, LOL.
Aw. I wish you would contact me personally.
Hey Scout, what do you think about those old school Shopsmith multi tool work stations that we used to see on TV back in the 80s. I have an opportunity to by a Mark V but don’t know if they are of any real use or good quality. Did you ever use one?
@@JohnSmith-yl6dn Hi John.
A friend had one and it worked okay for a hobby shop with limited space. Since the one powerhead ran everything the footprint was less than having several dedicated machines. The drawback is that you can only perform one operation at a time and each required a separate teardown and setup.
@@JohnSmith-yl6dn A friend from work back then had one. Very pricey,I thought,but really.cool and useful and some models were better/ or/ worse than others. Compare that and the former/current price and condition for your budget and you just might have a winner.
Good luck.
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Huge Shout-out to Scoutcrafter for helping me so much as I recover from a life changing surgery.The videos are great inspiration to keep on keeping on! Thanks again for all the work you put into the videos.Enjoying my new passion in beautiful SW Michigan!
Aaron! So glad you are recovering nicely! Thanks so much!
The coin padlocck episode is the one where it clicked...I can still do really cool stuff I enjoy just on a smaller scale!
Hang in there Aaron. We’re praying for you!
@@aaronmohr5285 Aaron my buddy Cliff made that and he has a great channel on making all sorts of small projects! Go check him out here! czcams.com/video/MGx606AnbXY/video.html
@@aaronmohr5285 Fellow MICHIGAN denizen here,CALHOUN COUNTY.
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Glad you made it.
Last year in JULY 2021 I went to the hospita😷l and died,was on machines to do my breathing for me.🤕
Strangely (to me) I was back home five days later,but I still have some lingering problems to this day. But I thank God and all those who helped me to be alive today.👍
I quit before you did, when the pin didn't come out I already went to The Dake.
I am still wondering what the heck is holding that in? 😂👍
@@ScoutCrafter Scout , There Must Be A Hidden Center Pin.
That vise is coming along great as always and for pipes he is showing you appreciation and feeding you because you are one of the pack so enjoy the gifts he brings it's his love for you
Need the cat to catch the scammer now that be a snake catch for him a dollar tool challenge sounds interesting
Good work on the vise! That is a DeKay's brown snake - good to have around!
Bench vises are addictive. The bushing idea was very good, thanks.
The little vice really cleaned and shaped up nice.
Great video John 😃
I have to say your cat must love you very much to bring to such nice presents. Think about it, he can’t bring you a tool to show its love.
Nice helpful information on the vise! Thank You for sharing !
Jack- Pipes is such a good boy, I remember when I had to get him and his two brothers fixed at the vet I picked them up and I felt so bad knowing what they just went thru. I came home and the two brothers weren’t happy with me but Pipes came over for a hug…. 😃👍
I enjoyed your video today. My brother lost his fight with cancer this morning and we had some family things to take care once that day was over I cam home and watched you video thinking of my brothers who was one of those men in the world that just understands anything mechanical you placed in front of him. I watched this video thinking of him and cried my eyes out. Thank for such a simple cleanup and polish on this vice. I have been up for hours and running on pure adrenaline. Thank you Scout Crafter. My brother name was Duane and he was my hero I will miss him but I have all the good people with this channel.
Hello David- I am so sorry for your loss, I have also lost much of my family to Cancer and even though we have some notice of what is to come when it happens it is still like a punch in the gut. You must always remember that one day we will all be together again... I promise in time you won't feel sad over Duane's passing but remember the many good times you two have shared...
Amazing transformation. That vice would be the pride of anyone's shop. You have sharp eyes. I never would have noticed that second pin.
That cleaned up so nice...wow. I have had my fair share of projects that wanted to fight me every inch of the way...those project always involve some sort of stupid pin 🤣🤯. Cheers
Joe I believe the "blind pin" was invented just to screw with us! =D
Great project. The Dake is the ultimate man's tool.
Hi,Great fan of your channel. I think you do great restorations. I learn something new every time I watch. Can’t wait to see how the vise turns out. I did notice when you had the vise upside down showing were you drilled the pin out, I saw a round little circle between the lettering (No0L4)⬅️the big 0 represent the circle.)) I think that is Where the other pin is at. That looks like something that vise company would do. I know you said you were done with it but just wanted to know if you see it before you prep it for paint. Love the idea 💡 for the bushing for the vise that was awesome! If you don’t have a lathe how else can we install a bushing like that? Can we use pex pipe or brass tubing? Well like I said I enjoy your channel and can’t wait to see the finish restoration.Best channel on CZcams 😄👍
Steven- I just looked back at the video and I believe you are 100% correct! I see the circle now that I blow up the video! I did think the other circle I drilled was too low to engage the slide but your pin location looks correct! Thanks so very much and great observation!!!!!
At 12:08 Soon as you put that replaceable jaw on the vice half…to me it just turned into a robots face and he’s saying “ooooooo” lol
Heartwarming to see this vice come back to life! Especially so since this is an 'inexpensive' vice. What I mean is that for whoever HAD this vice --- It was what they could afford. So seing it restored really makes me smile.
Mark- I feel the same way, I am no tool snob and love to take forgotten or inexpensive tools and make them respectable. Thanks!!!!!!
Hello Scout, fantastic project, looking forward to part 2, I have arguments with inanimate objects all the time 🤣.. you might have seen UK comedy series from the 70’s called fawlty towers, where he his hitting his car with tree branch because it will not start.. one of the funniest scenes ever.. definitely worth a watch if you haven’t seen it!
Great episode as always🙌 cheers Rob
great tutorial scout. got the tool bug at 12 or so years of age. my father was an engineer at Grumman on the island. Didn’t know a screwdriver from a pair of pliers. when I was 21 or so, my mother got me a craftsman bench vice for Father’s Day. my favorite tool of all
Jimmy- Calverton!!!! You have it in your blood, you can't go wrong with Craftsman!!!!
Cats give the darndest gifts! 🐍🎁🐈
Nice job John this was the first vice I restored many vises ago. You are right they are a cheap one but you can make them nice. Look forward to see what you do.
Hey John, send me that cat.😁 I'm glad the straightening job on this vise didn't have to be un-done.🤣🤣🤣 I'm working on a vise clean up last few days, it will never be as nice as yours. Thanks for the videos
Looking great John….can’t wait to see the colors and it finished! I hope you feel better tomorrow 😉
Nice work on the vise Mr. John. The pvc sleeve is a excellent idea!! Nice!
Excellent vise rebuild, also your cat is nice by not killing the snakes, which I am not fond of lol
John, I get the feeling you are a part-time lathe salesman. I don't know how often I think "I need a lathe" while watching your videos! Please keep up the great job!
Thomas- If you ask most people who have a lathe if it was worth it most will say they don’t know how they did without one for so long! 😃👍
John, another crap to ice cream. My late friend, this was his favorite comment when repairing the race car. You remind me of him. He could do anything like you. John you have went farther on the restoration then most would. This is why I enjoy your channel. Thank you
Jess- I think my favorite videos are ones where we take really junk tools and make them nice. 😃👍
Amazing what a difference just little touches make. Looking good.
PLENTY of snakes in New York and every town all across the country but LOTS in d.c. Biggest concentration in d.c. Brave kitty and a good vise to have. Beats smoking and drinking. Happy monday, Buddy and GBWYou! And an old impact you use with a hammer works really good too!
LOL Lewie for a minute I was thinking "Where are the snakes in DC?" LOL Then it hit me... I'm a little slow.. =D
Nice looking vice. You’ll make it much better. Can’t wait to see the final product. That bushing idea is fantastic!!
You'd think they'd have used a jig to align those jaw screw holes!
I do like their ability to clamp pipes too. So often you need a second vice or jaw adapters to grip round stuff.
If you don't have room on your bench for several vices, fitting a hardwood block to the bass enables you to fit one vice in another. Looks daft, but works well.
Pipes senses the work here if you eat here atmosphere at "His" home, and loves having such a great home, Pipes works hard as not to lose his 3 squares , tanks for sharing
Excellent boat anchor pre restore
Thanks for the tips, always learn something from your channel. Looking forward to seeing it finished. Thanks for the video sir.
Oh man. ScoutCrafter doing a vise restoration? Hell yes. Can't wait for the sequel!
Ben- I usually leave them to Jim who knocks them out in no time! =D I spend way too much time doing them! LOL
Beautiful Job 🤩 working really nice now 👍
Great video. I did learn a lot about vices today. Great advice. I have a few old vices that need help badly. Maybe I can use that cheap metal lathe. Thanks again. Can't wait to see the finish..
Great show John , thank you for the mention , it just so happens I've bought a 1gbp c.parker .... In a bit worse condition than that chief .... Nice to watch someone else sort a vice out!!
Jim- Nobody on CZcams has come close to your record on Vise restorations! 😃👍
Jim should come with a PG rating 🤔🙄😁
@@Everythings_Adjustable just a Pg ????
Well you are not as bad as Jimmy Carr 👍😁
...LOOKIN' GOOD, KEEP SAFE..
Nice Job Scout ! That Vise Looks Great Already As Is. Good Tip on the Fix .
The vice is coming out great. Well done and I love the anvil-area of this "Chief"-Vice.
Looking good so far Scoutcrafter! I did a Littlestown vise a while back with the same sort of problems. They spit those things out by the thousands. There is a cool video on here showing them making them back in the late forties I believe. Take care 😃👍🏼
Yes- It's on CZcams, they really kicked them out fast!!!!!!!
I'm looking forward to part 2!
Such an enjoyable channel.
Another great job in the works...the bushing was the best part for me...good ol Yankee know how...🖖
I have a vice that I want to restore so this tutorial is really helpful. Thanks for sharing this great information.
John- Tomorrow’s video should really help too! 😃👍
@@ScoutCrafter Great!
You have a very good and handsome cat. Perhaps it is the reincarnation of Saint Patrick? Now he's driving the snakes out of Queens.
Paul- I like the fact that he doesn't kill them... I have had a lot of cats that just like to watch the birds and never go after them... =D
@@ScoutCrafter that is weird. My cat would catch mice and play with them but he'd always kill them eventually.
Good technique to lighten up a vice!
Great work on the vise so far. I need to find myself a decent vise to mount on my roll cab tool box. My eyes will be watching craigslist or marketplace. Wish me luck.
Well done Scout, I really enjoyed that. I would love to see it finished in Art Deco colours, maybe SC red with cream highlights? Cheers Stuart 🇦🇺
Hi Jon 👋, great resto as always n nice video 👍, quick question , a fair while ago you were talking about restoring a special old motor . Did I miss the video or are you working on it ?
Peter- Believe it or not it’s on my kitchen table! I am waiting for slightly cooler weather, the temps are still hot here and I try not to be in the shop more then 2 hours at a time now. It’s coming soon! 😃👍.
@@ScoutCrafter cool , glad I didn’t miss it , cheers mate
Scoutcrafter, the little vice is a gem and for a $1 a steal. What kind of snakes are you being presented with ?.
Tony- These are known as Garter snakes. They are harmless to humans but do nip you if you try to pick them up! 😂👍
@@ScoutCrafter yeah, until they get to know you! LOL!
Man that came along way!
Nice find
Can’t wait to see it finished
Talk about a coincidence. I "restored" a no name USA made vise myself today. I need to make one final adjustment because is has too much side play and doesn't always line up sideways properly. Thanks for sharing
So Far Looking Good!
Like all your videos but for some reason the vice ones are some of my real favorites 👍
Ronnie- You are not the only one, Vise videos always draw more views then any other tool! =D Thanks!
Looks Pipes is a collector too!
To borrow a line from RoboCop, I'd buy that for a dollar!
Neat little grass snake your boy Pipes caught there.
Maybe I have a little cat in me because I used to find grass snakes, slow worms and newts and bring them home with me as a kid.
I always have had a deep respect (fear) of snakes and treated everyone I ever ran across as poisonous. Later in life I found that to be a smart practice as I have run across some highly poisonous snakes in the field. One day I was face to face with a Rattle Snake and it was coiled and shaking it's rattle... Needless to say I could have used my brown pants that day. =D
@@ScoutCrafter Luckily there is only 1 native species of venomous snake here in the UK that being the Adder.
It's easy to identify given that there are only 3 native snake species in total here and it has very distinctive markings.
As venomous snakes go it's not all that either.
You're only at risk of death if you are a very small child, elderly or ill and even then the risk is low there have only been 14 fatal bites recorded since 1876 the last one was in 1975.
We might have crappy weather most of the year here but we don't have venomous spiders, wolves, bears or big cats to worry about either.
Very nice work S.C... If that person had sent me the vice, it would have been the last time he sent me anything to repair... Lol.. I thought you were going to use a pc of delrin...the black stuff... But PVC worked great...Take care, looking forward to seeing pt 2...
Hi Gary- Since there is no wear or force on the bushing sleeve I use the less expensive PVC and also very available to anyone. It makes such a difference in these inexpensive vises! Thanks!
@@ScoutCrafter well u did a fantastic job.. as u always do.. can't remember who recommended your channel to me but I'm glad they did.. Take care and grab some good stuff on your midnight walks..
Had to go check my vise to see if indeed it.had a 'JAW-WERE'. 😁
Thanks for always being a good sport with my teasing.😉
I don't always agree when you erase the stamping/lettering on some tools but overall your methods and outcomes are decent and acceptable at the least for these restorations.👍
Keep it up.
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I only remove lettering on tools that are considered junk or very common. My favorite projects are taking junk tools that are throw-aways and making them nice again. =D
@@ScoutCrafter I like to find old tools still in good to great,and,usable condition.and leave them and the patina as is and use the tools. I keep them all together usually in one tool bag or box.
But I like your and many others ways,means and methods too.
It's all good as long as they are being preserved and passed on with info to those behind us.
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I might finally have a tip for you that you don't already know. If you stop it it welding supply shop you can get this dye, it's very thin and usually red or pink. It's designed to find faults in welds but I've never used it that way. I have found it to be tremendously helpful particularly with cast iron locating fasteners that have sort of become one with the casting. It perfectly outlines tapered pins and does so precisely enough that you can take measurements to determine the taper. It's also a great trick for reading long lost engravings. Not nearly as good in HSS or cold rolled, but it's an absolute must have if you like to restore cast iron machinery. They sell a small one at a price that makes it tempting to buy the larger tub. The little glue stick size one will probably last your lifetime, the tub is false economy. The other reason I personally prefer the tiny one is that this stuff is not forgiving. If you spill some, it will find any deep spot and make it Pink. It's not that hard to clean off but surfaces you thought of as flat, well they usually are pink enough that it's not worth the trouble.
I have seen the stuff that shows cracks, it is a two or three part spray and I never thought about using something like that for pins! Great tip!
I must I must get some of that stuff if it brings out faded names in tools it sounds very interesting Ash Man gets out and trying out and make a film about it thanks for the tip
John, I have a Wilton woodworkers vise that you can have for a project. It needs some TLC. Needs someone with a lathe. I'm in Fairfield County.
Sounds great! bicycleguy@aol.com
Looking great. It also shows not everything made in the USA guarantees quality !
Absolutely true!!! 😃👍
I’d buy that vise!
Common John do a crackle effect paint 😎😁
Hi John, great video as usual. Did you happen to see Engles Coach Shop where Dave rebuilt a vise that by his own admittance he abused to the point it failed. An interesting part was when he made new jaws and used his hydraulic press and a rasp to make the teeth in the jaw after he heated it up.
Hi Jeff- I can only wish to one day know as much as Dave has forgotten! =D His worknmanship and work ethic are unparalleled. Thanks!!!!!!!!!
@@ScoutCrafter John, you bring your own set of skills to the table. I admire what you accomplish on your restorations and perspective on life. I actually found your channel after watching Dave's video where he shows off the wrench you restored and gave to him. I often watch both yours and Dave's video on my lunch break at work, gives me a few minutes away from the stress of my job. Thanks for all you do !
Got ya 👍👍🔩🔩waching
OK Scout fans in our next episode..
Will Pipes bring back new prey?
Will ScoutCrafter paint the vice or keep it metal?
Will the Dake be back?
Tune in next time.
Same Scout time!
Same Scout channel!
See you next time ScoutCrafter Fans!
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That not coming apart after drilling those holes would've killed me. Lol. Did you ever find out how they actually come apart? For future reference.
Maybe a grey Hammerite the next step? :)
I use PB blaster and WD 40 to loosen stuck tuning slides on old horns....next one, I'm trying some 50/50 ! That vise is off to a great start!!
Yeah 50/50 was developed during a university study on rust penetrants. They threw it in as an economic alternative to commercial products. Turns out it works as good as anything else does. If you're busting rust you're probably not rich so economics is a big factor.
@@1pcfred that's great....and you're right!
I got a pair of channellock 430 from the 50's that have been used & abused. I saved them from a flea Market for $6. I don't have the proper tools and know-how to bring them back to life. I think it would be a great challenge for you to do. If you're interested in that I would love to send them your way and see what you can do for them.
Drop me a line! Bicycleguy@aol.com
Guess you're cat is doing his version of the poor man flea market. L.0.l
Snoopy!
John may be thinking about putting decorative plugs in those holes you drilled out. That would bother the sh!t out of me if owned that.
I tapped them 3/8 x16 and put some stainless steel hex head pins in! 😃👍
Red White & Blue?
That ledge sticking out that you ground off is probably why the vise was bent. The guy who bent it was perhaps trying to close the jaws and they were stuck open on the ledge??
Could be, all these Littlestown vises had strange problems like that! 😂👍
I thought I was the only one who argues with projects.
Thats pretty neat!!! Do you have any bullet vices? Some of those are pretty expensive especially the older ones
I have the original Bullet vise... The YORK 100 czcams.com/video/GxOqg2HLxr0/video.html
@@ScoutCrafter very nice!!!!
$1.00 dude? Good deal
It may not be the highest quality vise in the world, but certainly worth more than $1 after your restoration. Like how you fabricated that bushing.
I'm glad you said it instead of me! I was having the hardest time saying nothing because I had nothing nice to say. Littleton vices are probably my most hated tool on Earth. I literally won't take them for free. I think it is the vice version of the f wrench! I hate these vices with such a passion. I normally take apart and recycle absolutely everything metal. I won't even bother with these. The metal is not reusable for anything, it's completely honeycombed and I don't think any two vices have interchangeable parts. I don't know what genius decided to put the ram under the screw, creating the worst of both worlds, but I hope somebody smacked him in the mouth before his time was gone. Horrible creations. Worst of all, they are absolutely everywhere! It only takes 5 minutes of using one to know it is worthless, why did so many people save them? Or maybe that's exactly it. Maybe it came free with a decent quality workbench and everybody recognized it was crap from the very beginning so now we have a lot of stock
LOL- I agree 100% however I am shocked at the prices they fetch on eBay! People, for some unGodly reason like them! LOL I must say that with extensive work and a few mods you can make this into a usable LIGHT-DUTY vise. However I always try to steer people towards a better vise because in my opinion it is the most useful tool in the shop! =D
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Hi John. You have Mish Mosh Monday and TGIF for Friday, but I've noticed that you don't have a name for your Wednesday videos. So why not ask your subs for a name for your Wednesday videos? My entry would be 'Whatever Wednesdays' 😁
Can’t help wondering if that protruding lip beneath the removable jaw was a contributing factor to that bottom bar being bent. If the jaws looked like they weren’t shut properly it would be tempting to the uninitiated to crank down on that bar and try and tighten it further rather than to look why it’s not gripping properly. Then presto, over tightened and bar bent.
Good observation! 😃👍
John, I know you have explained your 50/50 mixes countless times over the years but is there a video you could point me to that explains each one and their uses. Thanks for doing these videos, they inspire me to get out in my shop.
Home brew lubricant: czcams.com/video/rbnfmG2b-Vs/video.html
Home brew lubricants pt.2: czcams.com/video/PmeI8yMJLFg/video.html
50/50 was a research project some university did. They tested all kinds of rust penetrants and they also mixed up 50% acetone and 50% ATF and the 50/50 mix worked as good as any commercial product did. One of the goals of the project was a developing country economic angle. Poor countries don't have all kinds of money to throw away. Who does?
Hello Terry- I actually did a few videos on lubricants and really all are useful!
Part 1- czcams.com/video/rbnfmG2b-Vs/video.html
Part 2- czcams.com/video/PmeI8yMJLFg/video.html
50/50- czcams.com/video/CA8girXbobY/video.html
Thanks!
@@stevenburton Thanks Steven!!
I'm guessing cobalt blue or candy orange 😁
Hold it in the press with your hand? We have a blast shield to stand behind
LOL- My Press is a small bench top 10 Ton model. With these small presses they usually will spit the part out before exploding. =D However I never put a lot of pressure on a part I am worried about shattering. I have seen things explode and send shrapnel everywhere, most times with large big money hydraulic presses.
Didn’t you rebuild one of these a good while back that had a factory dent built in? You removed it then had to put it back I think.
LOL Yes Pete! I believe the factory intentionally peened the bar to add some thickness, I removed it only to find I created more slop! LOL These inexpensive vises will really test your patients!
My female cat brings all manner of critters in to us; same are dead but most are alive. We can't seem to make her understand that she doesn't have to bring us presents. Oh well! Also, I know you've mentioned it before but do you prefer a paddle or slide switch on your grinder? See you on Wednesday. Jim
Jim- Paddle or trigger is the way to go- a momentary switch is required in many shops as they are safer. Slide switches will stay on after a mishap... Thanks!
@@ScoutCrafter Thank you sir, you are the best! Jim
It is a very cool vise though, but those littco's allways seem to get you into a lot of work. I own two I haven't got around yet, one has a jaw missing and that Ridge below missing and I'm figuring out how to deal with that still. I've heard cats bring you game because they what to show you how to hunt for yourself and don't under why you don't, I don't know if it's true or not, sort of does fit their characters though. I hope you'll have a great week!
Alex- The problem is it takes just as long to restore a junk vise as it does a good vise. After restoration the junk vise is still worthless but nice. 😂👍
@@ScoutCrafter That Chief name cast into that vise is pretty sharp. It's probably the nicest feature of it. I'm not a fan of bar style vises myself.
The second hole you drilled was below the bar, how could there have been a 'pin' there?
Hi Scoutcrafter did that snake have orange or red on its underside if it does it is called a "red belly snake".
Hi David- This one is a common Garter snake. They are common but not often seen. Shy little guys! LOL
Hidden fixings a pain in the but.
Quick cat question. I've always only ever had dogs. Recently I've had a lot of mice downstairs so I was planning to get an outdoor cat. I placed an ad to this effect and basically got tore a new one. I was told repeatedly that having an outdoor cat was cruelty. I had planned to provide an indoor bed and litter box and feeding station and the weather is a very mild in the northwest. We do lose the occasional cat to eagles or coyotes though. I tried to do some research and I learned that outdoor cats are pretty ruthless killers of certain songbirds but I couldn't find any solid data on it being cruel to the cat itself. But the input I received was pretty consistent. There was only one or two voices that did not regard this as ethically wrong. I know we live in very different environments, but I don't know the first thing about cats. What is your opinion? I never even got a clear understanding of what these people saw as cruelty besides the predation but to me that's just part of nature. Obviously I don't want to see a pet get hurt, but presumably cars are much more fatal to cats than predators? So I'm open to views from both sides, I would like to understand the argument and make my own decision. I'm just not hearing any clear reasons one way or the other, just a lot of emotional response and testimonials. So what gives? What is everyone else's opinion? Is it wrong to have an outdoor cat? What's the minimum level of care that you see as ethically required? Quick edit; do you know of any other particularly effective rodent deterrents?
There are basically two types of common cats, house cats and feral cats. I have always had house cats that would scratch at the door and let you know they want to go out and after a couple hours would come in and eat and sleep. =) Last year for the first time a feral cat had kittens near my property and as any cat lover would do I started feeding them. Once they were big enough I caught them, took them to the vet and had their shots and all of them fixed. These were all outside cats now meaning that if I wanted to capture them and make them inside cats they would be very miserable. After a certain time outside cats become feral. Now I trained two of them to come inside once and a while but there are 2 others that will go crazy if you close a door behind them. (feral) They say the lifespan of a Feral cat is only a few years but there are always exceptions. House cats live about 12 years. Some cats are not good at mousing so getting one for that purpose is a crap shoot. I am no expert but I have 3 indoor cats and take care of 4 outside cats. They are all fed 3 times a day and fresh water twice a day. I would not have these cats if not for covid. However as they say Cats find their owners. =D As for the mice you have to eliminate the food source. They will leave. =D
To clean up the body of the vise are using a grinding wheel, flap wheel or what?
No- Just the wire wheel! Cast Iron cleans up very nice using a rotary wire wheel (steel). 😃👍
Could you please tell me the brand and model of the mini lathe you used in this video? Thanks
My lathe is a Harbor Freight 7x10 lathe, it has served me really well however they don't usually make this model any longer, they make a 7x12 or 7x14. The second number represents the length of the bed. A longer bed is more desirable than a short one. If ever you are in the market for a small lathe, check out Little Machine Shop .com and go to their FAQ section on buying a new lathe. It covers many questions and concerns!
@@ScoutCrafter Perfect thanks. I want one and need to figure out my best option. A friend of mine has an old South Bend with no motor or tool holder. Not sure what I want to do. But thanks for the info I really appreciate it.
Why not use some heat?
Hi, John, what was that metal round object in the leaves where you released the snake--just curious.
It looks like a mushroom anchor for a boat to me.
Hello Seb! Paul is right it is a Mooring Anchor! These are used to permanently or semi-permanently keep boat anchored just off shore. They drop this anchor and attach a small float to it and that is how you keep your boat in the water. To get to the boat you use a small row boat that is then returned to the shore while you are using your boat. =D