Is the Orioles Starting Outfield coming to an End? | Are their days with the O's Numbered?
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- čas přidán 3. 06. 2024
- Today we talk about the Orioles Opening Day and Starting outfield of Austin Hays, Cedric Mullins and Anthony Santander and whether or not these players will be with the Orioles for the long haul or are their days with the O's coming to an end. We'll look at their trending stats, contract status and much more. Lots to discuss.
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I love all three of these guys in our Outfield. They took us through the storm. I'll never forget that and will always be grateful. I pray they will all break out of their funks offensively and surprise everybody that they can do better than popping out most of the time. I can't figure out what is happening and I don't think ANY of them have attitude problems. These guys are all winners and workers and team players. It must be hard for you to make a video like this when you also know their character. All top notch. Baseball is a humbling game, but I've seen great success stories come out of failures. I don't know what the future holds but I know it is bright for the Orioles. I would love to see those 3 veterans open up a can of whoop-@$$ in 2024 and help win the World Series and go out with the blaze of glory they brought to the club! But and old sage once told me "You can WANT in one hand and Sh!T in the other!" I reckon we'll just see. Rooting for my vets, but also rooting for those up and comers!
Hopefully they'll turn it around. We're gonna need them.
Kyle Stowers has played 110 innings on CF this year at AAA. This is signicantly more than he has in the past. It seems Elias has been preparing for this move just in case Mullins struggled or injured.
Not sure why Stowers is up. They called him up yesterday and both Yesterday and today the Blue Jays are starting right handers and yet Stowers is not in the lineup. So even with Mullins, Cowser, Santander and Hays struggling they are not putting him in the lineup. That said...I'm sure he'll start the afternoon finale against Toronto.
I think we will see Kyle Stowers get starts in CF. I have no idea who they trust more in CF, Stowers or Cowser. But, historically in the minor leagues Stowers has been able to hit LHP sufficiently to be an everyday player.
Elias said when they drafted Stowers that they believe he can play CF. That is the extent of my data on Stowers in CF. All he needs to do is hit .240-.260 while maintaining his power numbers and don't have a, negative runs saved stat in CF. Supposedly Stowers is close with Adley. I think they are going to give him a true opportunity to win the CF job. I hope Stowers has developed a better two strike approach to foul off more pitches and hit some opposite field singles. The big swings are majestic. Sometimes the team will need him to do the little things to win.
I would like to see Kjerstad be part of that future outfield. I think he could put up tremendous offense numbers.
100% agree. He'll be a 40HR in the majors. Mark it down!! He may not hit for a high average but his raw power is incredible. #2 overall pick in the 2020 draft. The guy can hit. Just needs regular at bats.
Both the O’s management and Hyde miss handled Holiday and Kjerstad! They sit both up for failure!!
@@steveplant7300 I don't know if I agree with that. Players get called up, struggle and sent back down all the time. it's happened to several Orioles that are currently on the team as well. If they continue to do it then I can see the worry but for Holliday it was the first time. For Kjerstad it's only his first as well. I mean Kjerstad was on the playoff roster last year. These things tend to work themselves out. Don't be too upset with Elias and Hyde. They've done a great job.
Very good analysis
Thank you for the very kind words and for watching
The Orioles are set to have a ton of top prospects coming through the system. They will all need to play somewhere, whether we keep them, or ship them out. The roster will be changing dramatically. It's amazing that we're going thru what we have, with the best record in the American league
It's a good problem to have but one that won't last forever. The window to win opens and shuts quickly sometimes. If the Orioles are going to trade some of these guys it needs to be the right ones and for the right player. Remember the Andrew Miller trade a few years back?
Excellent points all around. Enjoyed it. Thanks.
Thank you for the kind words and for watching.
Hey bud, well done. Smart, accurate analysis.
Thank you very much for the kind words and thank you for watching.
You didn't develop all those prospects to have a top minor league club or trade away. The infield is set. Great veterans in the outfield. We all love them. It was just a matter of time. To infinity and beyond!
Agreed! Probably time to let the kids be sprinkled in and these guys (if they continue to struggle) phased out. It sounds harsh but our window to win is open and we need to do everything we can to take advantage of it.
@@birdlandnetwork83 We shall see.
Good video. Be interesting what the outfield will look like in September.
My thoughts are it'll look different. Especially is their struggles continue
I am very pleased that you included spray charts to valudate your point. My opinion is that for the last three seasons, beginning in July Mullins and Hayes start pulling the ball and stop trying to hit the ball to yhe opposite field. It leads to strikeouts and weak infield popups.
I think they are doing this because they are in the arbitration years of thier contract. More power stats, more money.
I think Hayes will come on strongfot the next month or two. Just like he did during the beginning of last year, he will focus on hitting the other way. Hopefully, he can maintain that team first focus and with more outfield depth, stay healthy.
That said, I think Hayes will likely be traded away at the deadline.
I have no idea about Mullins. Why did he stop bunting to get on base? Jim Palmer talks about Cedric's approach when he doesn't use the whole field. Mullins must know and he is certainly capable of hitting to all fields and bunting more to increase his OBP. Its his attitude.
I like Hayes and Mulins. The past 2.25 years has proven that you can't trust them to be available or for what they will produce offensively. They don't offer much position flex as "established veterans".
Then there is Santander who will be a free agent and historically, he goes into prolonged slumps against RHP. He also provides big hits, power and at this point in time, the Orioles don't have anyone to fill his production and veteran intangibles in the lineup.
That said, CF is my concern. I think Stowers & Cowser will get a shot at earning the starting position.
(Send Mullins to Florida to get his mind right and convince him to buy into an offensive approach that will be good for him and improve the teams chances at winning).
All very good points. Thank you for the insight and for watching.
Man, I would hate to give up on all this gold glove caliber defense...
That's the rub. I agree defense will be compromised if Mullins, Hays and Santander are replaced. That being said Cowser or Stowers can play a very good left or center to help make up for it. If you're a huge defensive guy then Mullins and company are your cup to tea. I tend to feel their defense is awesome but not elite enough to allow for the major offensive struggles we've seen from them. Can't have it all. Those are called Hall of Famers!! These guys aren't that.
I think they don't resign Santander they trade Mullins for whatever they can get And I think they keep Hayes for a negotiated, cheaper price and he's a good veteran bat off the bench.
But will Hays take that contract? Will he agree to a much lesser role at a much lesser price? He may opt to test the free agent market.
I think the only one who may be a little difficult to replace is Mullins only because they don't really have a really good cf to bring up to replace him. All the prospects are corner outfielders no true cf
Enrique Bradfiled (still a couple years away) this year's draft pick is the player they're hoping will be our next center fielder. Look up his metrics. He actually rates higher than Mullins in Fielding and Running. He's and 80 grade in both which is the highest grade you can get. To be honest I don't need a tremendous CF I just need someone who is good and can get to balls but also produce offensively. I Mullins' only contribution is his defense then he becomes a pinch runner/late inning defensive replacement and that's not good for someone making of 6MIL a year. Plus I think Cowser is a CF and he would do just fine. Of course he needs to start hitting again too, but he gets a pass as a rookie. Thanks for the comments and for watching
Cowser , Kjerstad and Stowers, and O'Hearn can play the outfield.
Agreed
I said: O's should consider upgrading CF at end of last season.
I think if Mullins continues to struggle your wish is going to come true. Look for Cowser to get more CF playing time if Mullins doesn't turn it around.
I agree, CF is my concern after the bullpen. Cowser, Stowers and wait for it, Jackson Holiday. I can't take credit for that idea. I believe that Keith Law mentioned that possibility after Jackson Holiday was drafted. He will need to learn the angles and develop instincts in this area to get better jumps. That said, I think he already flashes those talents better than some of the O's current outfield prospects. If Jackson Holiday moves to CF, it gives them options on what to do with Westburg, Mayo and Norby. Unfortunately, Ramon is on borrowed time. I'm happy for Mateo. His late inning pinch runner speed is essential in the playoffs. He is quietly turning himself into a crucial part of this team with his INF & CF position flexibility. Most of all, I am seeing Mateo be more locked-in, focused, adhering to the fundamentals and hopefully less likely to make a bone headed play.
Hopefully its just a slow start thing and they break out middle to later in the season.
I hope you're right. We need the outfield production to better....much better. The worry is this has been going on for more than a season now for both Hays and Mullins. They both struggled in the second half last year and it's carried into this year. Fingers crossed they get better.
Mullins, Hayes, Mateo, Urias are all either pinch runners/defense sub at the end of games or need to go. We need to stop bringing up prospects just to have them sit. The damage its doing to their mindsets is unforgiveable.
I agree to a point. The Orioles are trying to win. It would be extremely risky to have a team full of 1st or 2nd year guys trying to win a championship. Veteran leadership is important but only to a degree. That veteran leadership also has to produce. So I think having four guys that are just reserves like that is way too many and Mullins/Hays will get their chances to turn their seasons around. We need the leadership and experience for the stretch run and playoffs. That said your point is a good one and I think next year those four may be elsewhere or have limited roles.
Out with the old and in with the new.. While I appreciate what these players have contributed over the years, it's time to move on.. Time is up for Urias to..
GO O'S BABY
I tend to agree with you. That said...there is something to be said for veteran leadership. There is still value in these guys especially if they start to contribute again.
@@birdlandnetwork83 Veteran leadership is overrated..That's what the manager and coaches are for.. Besides, we have McCann, O'Hearn and Burns for some vet leadership..We have top shelf young talent that needs to play regularly.. What Elias did with Kjerstad borders on malpractice.. Enjoy your channel.. Thanks
@@Country-rt1ij Don't run Elias out of town just yet. He is the guy that has spearheaded this turnaround and drafted many of these players. Managing a team isn't an exact science and I think he's trying to find the right pieces to fit. Kjerstad will be back and soon if Mullins and Hays continue to struggle. Plus O'Hearn, McCann and Burnes are veterans but ones from outside the organization. Having veterans from inside the organization are the ones who I feel have the bigger influence. That said they do have to produce.
@@birdlandnetwork83 I hear ya, and after 22 losing seasons during Angelos I am in no way insinuating that Elias should be run out of town, as I am well aware of Elias's accomplishments since his days in St. Louis..He also isn't above criticism..Cal went thru a stretch of 3-52 before winning ROY.. Either give these guys consistent playing time or leave them in the minors till we move on from dead wood..
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Say the time does come and they call Kjerstad back up! Are they going to make him an everyday player or jack him around again?
If so trade him to a team that’s gonna play him!
We need to aquire brandon belt
I think the O's have enough left handed hitting outfielders. They need someone from the right side if they're going outside the organization. Just my opinion
@birdlandnetwork83 great point 👍 I agree. It's just a shame seeing a guy like belt who ended on a great note just sit in the free agency pool. If any team jumps on him I think it'll be an insane steal.
@@OGANGLER I think you're right. Just don't think he fits with our team.
Orioles front office has major decisions to make. They will be here til end of season. Chemistry is big with these three for the team. Why bring up Stowers and sit him for the most part. Irritating
Lots of shaking my head for sure. That being said even with the chemistry we're now into June and Hays and Mullins both are under .200 and nob producing. Changes have to be on the horizon. How long do we have to wait?
Give them time. Cowser has been in a massive slump all may. Heston hasn’t done a damn thing and is back down to give Stowers a shot
Heston had 12 AB’s! 2 starts! Not consecutive! You have to play everyday for a period of time to have any consistency!
Kjerstad has only had about 14 at bats and his playing time has been sproadic. Need to see a larger sample size and regular playing time before a true judgement on struggles can be made. Stowers is only here because they want Kjerstad to get regular at bats. The upside is bigger....much bigger with Kjerstad. Just my opinion.
I think the real reason Heston didn't get playing time is because they didn't trust him in LF. They sent him down to work on his defense and hopefully impress upon him the importance of being focused and battling for every at bat. Fouling off more pitches. Making the picture work. Heston will be a successful Major league hitter. If he doesn't learn how to do these little things, he's going to go through slumps. Championship winning teams avoid prolonged slumps from players on their roster.
@@steveplant7300 Yes look what he did when being back to aaa an playing every day !!!