The Long Black Versus The Americano: An Age Old Debate

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    00:00 NEW STUDIO!
    00:46 A Little Beverage History
    04:11 Making Our Drinks
    08:27 Compare And Contrast

Komentáře • 290

  • @sthentic
    @sthentic Před měsícem +124

    I'm from Melbourne. Nothing stopping you from ordering an iced long black. The only rules I have seen is that it should only be espresso and water mix at the correct ratios. With Australian summer heat it's always nice to pour over ice for a refreshing chilled coffee drink with lots of flavour 😊

    • @Stan_sprinkle
      @Stan_sprinkle Před měsícem +1

      I have ordered that for sure when I was working in Sydney over Christmas

    • @chikunman133
      @chikunman133 Před měsícem +5

      American here, i made an iced long black...every. single. morning haha.
      i also eat vegemite and toast almost every morning as well

    • @CraigSavage
      @CraigSavage Před 18 dny +3

      As an American in Melbourne, it's also important to note that an "iced coffee" might not just be coffee with ice. It may come with ice cream!

    • @Me4502
      @Me4502 Před 15 dny +1

      Iced Long Black is basically the only drink I ever order in Brisbane. The only time I have an issue is when the cafe itself doesn't have ice for iced coffees in general (which is oddly semi-common in Brisbane winters, despite it never getting that cold here lol)
      I do find that a lot of non specialty places make what would be an iced americano based on this video though (fast food coffee, starbucks, etc), but specialty cafes always make drinks that have the correct ratio and feel like an iced long black as opposed to an iced americano.

  • @EthanPoynter
    @EthanPoynter Před měsícem +44

    nz barista here, the way that my cafe operates is that we would extract the espresso directly into the hot water, using a metal stand to get the cup as close to the portafilter as possible, so that there is a thick crema on top of the water.

    • @MrSteamDragon
      @MrSteamDragon Před 18 dny +1

      Ahhh, music to my ears ! Please come to Western Australia and teach our baristas how to make a long black (hats off to the few who actually do a decent job though). 😎🇦🇺

    • @ChefWRX
      @ChefWRX Před 16 dny

      Agreed, it's not optional. The shot has to be pulled into hot water. I don't know the science behind it, but I'd assume it's similar to the current trend of pulling shots over frozen spheres. The result is either a change or retention of flavor compounds.

  • @studikatze
    @studikatze Před měsícem +123

    Can you make an episode about caffeine free coffee? I've been watching your videos forever but had to change my meds a while ago, and now I can't have caffeine anymore. I'd love an episode where you explain how caffein free coffee is made and how it could affect the flavor 😊

    • @Edwardbear150
      @Edwardbear150 Před měsícem +32

      James Hoffmann has a really good video about this topic

    • @brianhawthorne7603
      @brianhawthorne7603 Před měsícem +9

      Decaf coffee drinkers are the truest coffee aficionados, looking entirely for flavor instead of both drugs and flavor.

    • @studikatze
      @studikatze Před měsícem

      @@Edwardbear150 thank you, I'll look into it 🥰

    • @alesswonderland
      @alesswonderland Před měsícem +3

      Isn't there an investigation or something in the US for if decaf is actually good for you? I mean i don't care but I thought I saw something about it recently

    • @ingridc0ld
      @ingridc0ld Před měsícem +7

      There's no such thing as caffeine free coffee. There's decaf, but that still has a bit of caffeine in it.

  • @the_Valinor_tourist
    @the_Valinor_tourist Před měsícem +23

    As a Russian, we have crazy all-season flavours of creamy coffees, for example lavander раф (pronounced as rough), it's kinda like latte but creamier. Creamy and "milky" coffees are extremely popular here, so for someone like me (an average espresso and espresso-like enjoyer) to find even an okay americano is quite "rough" :)

  • @kirstendegarnham4497
    @kirstendegarnham4497 Před měsícem +16

    Seen a couple of comments about this already but I'll chuck my thoughts out anyway.
    Barista in New Zealand, here. I've worked in a cafe in the north and 2 in the south, and I like to visit different cafes all the time. What I've seen is that you get just 1 size of both drinks, Americano is a large drink, often served in the largest mug available. The long black is served in a tulip cup. I have been shown at the 3 different cafes that with an Americano, the shot goes in the bottom of the cup and then fill it up with hot water. The long black is served opposite to that, with the water going into the cup then pulling the shot on top.
    However, with an "at home" set up when you have more time to be making each individual drink, makes sense to pull the shot into an espresso cup and then add it to the water gently. I think a lot of the cafe work I've done has been a case of just making the drinks as fast as possible while still maintaining a high quality.
    My go to (because my body can't digest milk) is an Americano with a caramel shot, normally. But sometimes I'll skip the flavour shot and drink it black. Recently, when a sweet craving hits, Americano with chocolate. (Basically a mocha without the milk)

    • @dwirandypradhika6752
      @dwirandypradhika6752 Před 16 dny +1

      The reason I don't put water after the espresso with americanos, is that a lot of machines came with a hot water tap that pours water quite violently into the cup.
      I don't mind wiping up water splashing out of an empty cup, but cleaning coffee stains all over my workspace is annoying at best.
      Also, please use your hot water tap instead of a kettle, cycling the water is good for your boiler, and you won't get chalky flavors if your boiler is frequently filled with new water. Don't let minerals precipitate and cause limescale!

  • @Krynis
    @Krynis Před měsícem +2

    so cool to see you in a studio Morgan! hype for the future of the channel!

  • @GabrielOwen2014
    @GabrielOwen2014 Před měsícem +88

    Espresso with water > water with espresso

  • @gscott5062
    @gscott5062 Před měsícem +55

    I'd never heard of a Long Black, but I guess that's what I've been ordering (here in the US). I always ask for an Americano in their smallest cup, 'with room', and then never add cream. So maybe halfway between straight espresso and a normal Americano.

    • @LelandJordon-hj3tw
      @LelandJordon-hj3tw Před 29 dny

      That sounds like it ends up with a ratio like a moka pot (which is a ratio I like for myself, too).

  • @andrewzach1921
    @andrewzach1921 Před měsícem +5

    Congrats on the new studio space Morgan,thanks for the video

  • @tarekz9992
    @tarekz9992 Před měsícem +2

    You have such a bubbly personality,which is awesome. Love the videos,keep them coming!

  • @Django44
    @Django44 Před měsícem +2

    Another really well done presentation Morgan - thank you. You do a superb job explaining the basics of your craft, let alone some of the more complicated issues. The key reason I pull my shots directly into the hot water is that all of the shot pours in, with none of the essential oils, crema and other trace elements left behind (in a separate vessel). Personal preference is all that is, but I 'grimace' when I see those glistening, chestnut-colored flavorful ingredients left behind in your stainless cups.

  • @squidjam
    @squidjam Před měsícem +77

    When you ask for an Americano in Spain, they put the expresso first and use the same machine to fill the cup up with water. I have never had a coffee place serve me an Americano like you prepare it. Not even specialty shops.

    • @GuardTower
      @GuardTower Před měsícem +2

      ... WHY DID I NOT THINK OF THIS :rofl: when im making americano... i used the steam pipe to dispense the hot water :facepalm: you can already guess that i have been having problems with this one hahaha

    • @unknownentity222
      @unknownentity222 Před měsícem +11

      If you are going to call it by the wrong thing, you might as well say it's Nespresso.

    • @hannahbeckford-drake7538
      @hannahbeckford-drake7538 Před měsícem +16

      ive worked at 3 cafes in the UK and all advise to put the hot water in first - to stop from ruining the espresso shot

    • @Stan_sprinkle
      @Stan_sprinkle Před měsícem +9

      They do that for convenience. It makes little difference in taste. If you add espresso to water, you at least are taking the care to try to let the crema sit on top which looks nice. Adding water from the machine is kind of a “meh, Americano” approach

    • @felisaisnthere
      @felisaisnthere Před měsícem

      Oh no no no no it gotta be extremely over extracted unless they use a completely different grinder and recipe

  • @Viniter
    @Viniter Před měsícem +24

    The way I see americano served more and more often is with an espresso in a larger cup and a little jug of hot water on the side. That way you can add as much or as little as you'd like.

    • @vintagechique17
      @vintagechique17 Před měsícem +2

      I've only seen this being done in Norway so it could be a regional thing as its not the standard way it would be served in the UK

    • @dreysnaps
      @dreysnaps Před měsícem +1

      I've never seen this served this way, and I wish this would catch on in my country.

    • @Moneyalmenial
      @Moneyalmenial Před 14 dny +1

      That's how long blacks are also served in many cafes in New Zealand.

  • @skitzmix2007
    @skitzmix2007 Před měsícem +24

    Always love your content Morgan!! as an Australian, a barista and avid drinker of long blacks, i cant say i have ever had or ever made the long black you made. it is always made the Americano way, im now going to run off and try it your way :D

    • @AutoReport1
      @AutoReport1 Před měsícem +2

      I have to agree, in Australia a long black is just an Americano without milk. It just displaced the commercial drip filter coffee option (American machines) as everywhere switched to making espresso instead. And U have to say, it's not better than drip filter, especially if you want a larger size, it just gets watered down more.

  • @Mr_Ghoulie
    @Mr_Ghoulie Před měsícem +8

    I never heard of the Long Black, before watching this video. Thank you for introducing me to it.
    My usual, every day, pre-work coffee is closer to the Long Black. But, I always just called it a strong Americano.
    I do a quad shot, into a metal mug (I think it holds 10 ounces,) then add a few dashes of bitters, and fill the mug the rest of the way with cool water.

    • @brendansmith
      @brendansmith Před měsícem +2

      yeah, it's really just a regional term difference and preference for smaller sizes...but you're fine calling it the way you do

  • @wraggal
    @wraggal Před měsícem +7

    I worked in a chain coffee place and I 100% never heard of americano being water first. The long black was a wild and new thing to hear about specifically because it was water first

  • @BrilliantWhenYouGlow
    @BrilliantWhenYouGlow Před měsícem +4

    We spent 2.5 weeks in Italy and after several days I definitely was craving my American coffee! I think it had to do with the volume of coffee. A cappuccino doesn’t last as long as a couple cups I get from my French press! I actually really enjoyed the coffee in New Zealand a lot! The flat whites were amazing each day!

  • @emmawilks4524
    @emmawilks4524 Před 27 dny +2

    Aussie Barista here, at our cafe we do Long Blacks but you can get them regular size (double shot), a large (a triple shot) and Iced which follows same shot ratio to the size chosen. We always offer milk and any extras if desired. I did have some Canadians come in the other day asking for an americano and because we dont have it on our menu and havent been taught about it, this video is extremely helpful so next time i get someone asking i can actually make it for them knowing i know what im doing, cause i was very nervous to ask them and explain to them how we do 'our version' so i gave them a long black hoping for the best. lesson learned :) thank you

  • @aldrea6506
    @aldrea6506 Před měsícem +7

    I absolutely love the fact that there is a spectrum to liking/loving something, in this case coffee. On one side you have the "I love it so much I'll gatekeep it" where if you do one teeny tiny thing wrong when making the coffee they get upset and combative over it. Then on the other side, you have the "I love it so much I want to share it with the world" where if you do the same teeny tiny thing wrong they are like "omg that's so amazing, how did it taste?? you must tell me every single detail". Both sides love coffee equally but take their love down completely different paths. I am of the latter and love to experiment, I'm currently drinking iced coffee made from the grounds of a Nespresso pod that was transferred to a Keurig reusable pod, added milk, some toasted marshmallow syrup and 3 ice cubes. I give it a 7/10 lol.

  • @JustJimWillDo
    @JustJimWillDo Před měsícem +5

    Thank you for this explanation. As an Aussie I am used to drinking Long Blacks at cafés and, having also heard the WW2 story about the Americano, I thought they might be the same drink.
    Good to learn that my Melbournian Barista brothers and sisters have got the real thing down to a fine art and… well, let's leave it at that in accordance with Morgan's instructions at the beginning of the video, eh? 😁😁

  • @ericwright3646
    @ericwright3646 Před 9 dny

    A recent trip to Barcelona changed my view of coffee. I had always been a fan, but the people of Spain are dead serious about it. In Spain everything starts with espresso. Every restaurant I visited had an espresso machine. I made it home and immediately invested in a moka pot and now have developed "gently brewed" espresso (no sputtering overheated moka at my house!)
    Finding your channel has been a pure pleasure. I'm more interested in coffee than ever and you've got all the details.

  • @KathyTrithardt
    @KathyTrithardt Před měsícem +2

    I've been traveling in Europe for a couple months now. Thanks for explaining why I've had to switch to ordering Americanos instead of just a cup of black coffee, and for letting me know that if that is not an option, and Long Black will do basically (but not exactly) the same thing.

  • @nicole8214
    @nicole8214 Před 29 dny

    I just wanted to drop a thank you here, cause I have learned so much from this channel on how to make and enjoy coffee at home. My hobby of good coffee making has made my expectations so high it is hard to go out for it now hahaha which isnt a bad thing

  • @anotherone5137
    @anotherone5137 Před měsícem +2

    Welcome back Morgan

  • @russellswan8394
    @russellswan8394 Před 16 dny +1

    As an Aussie who lived overseas for years I got good at explaining a long black to barristas "a short, double shot Americano" would usually get me there or "a strong Americano with half the usual water" very occasionally someone would respond "You mean a long black?" and my day would be made. 😊
    I noticed there is a subtle difference between Australia and New Zealand though. In Australia you will almost never see the word "Americano" on a café menu but if you order a large long black that's basically what you get. Whereas in NZ a long black is one size only, the bigger one is called an Americano.

  • @modelcitizenvlad
    @modelcitizenvlad Před 22 dny +1

    NZ barista here. At my place of work we don't actually make a distinction between Americano and Long Black; they're both espresso with water poured onto it. I suppose our small size would closest approximate the proposed style guide in this video but frankly only about one in one hundred customers actually know what kind of coffee they've ordered and how it's different to the others.

  • @unggulkirindi6556
    @unggulkirindi6556 Před měsícem

    Thanks, as Long Black enjoyer this video just make me happy. For the next video, could you explain about cold brew? Thanks!

  • @petra9784
    @petra9784 Před měsícem +2

    i live in aus at the moment, was born in nz. at my work our way of making an americano is espresso then hot water and the long black the opposite way around. ive had to explain the difference to a few of my coworkers as they dont realise theres a stronger taste with the long black due to the crema. iced long blacks are a summer favourite so you can ice both types. long blacks are very VERY common probably the second most i get daily. i prefer espresso with milk, thats just my way of having coffee

  • @tegztegz
    @tegztegz Před měsícem +3

    I appreciate your respect for NZ and Aus coffee culture. I am a flat white girlie myself

  • @YukonHawk1
    @YukonHawk1 Před měsícem

    I'll drink either one. Good luck with your new studio🎉

  • @cornerliston
    @cornerliston Před 27 dny

    Fun comparison. Nice to see.
    May I give a suggestion about production : )
    Try rotating your lav mic so it points downwards. This may (or may not) have a positive effect on the sibilants.

  • @justinekim8744
    @justinekim8744 Před měsícem

    Ever since you taught me to put salt in my coffee, I’ve been actively looking forward to your videos ❤

  • @variaedeventuale
    @variaedeventuale Před měsícem +1

    Here in recent day Italy the americano started out as a way to mimic drip coffee with an espresso machine, usually it is a single shot (7 to 10 grams in) diluted to the volume of a standard cappuccino mug. So something more similar to the long black you brewed, a bit stronger even

  • @thebitterfig9903
    @thebitterfig9903 Před měsícem +2

    Iced Americano (decaf) was always my go-to “green mermaid” order back when I was newish to coffee. The reason? I was cheap. Iced Americano with mocha syrup was at least a dollar cheaper than an iced latte, and all I had to do was walk over to the cream pitcher and top it up. That trick doesn’t really work hot, only iced, but I thought the results were tasty.
    These days… my order is still often the decaf iced americano. Only, I drink it black and unsweetened.

  • @dwirandypradhika6752
    @dwirandypradhika6752 Před 16 dny +1

    Also consider the different style of shots that people use for theee drinks!
    Australian cafes usually dose triple shots, pull a split espresso or even ristretto in the cup, while double shots are more common in the US.
    This is the most common reason a cafe will only put one of these drinks in their menu. The best I've seen is a skilled barista dialing the shot on-the-fly when I asked for a long black in a cafe where they serve americano.
    But please don't ask your barista this unless you know them well and they don't mind. Also, don't complain, you asked for it...

  • @jasonscalise5
    @jasonscalise5 Před měsícem +12

    I've ordered an americano three times. Once was at a movie theater, and I think they just watered down some Keurig coffee. It was bad. But I had one at a coffee shop, and it tasted just as watery. The third was at Dutch Bros (they didn't serve black coffee normally, so I ordered a double espresso with water.) It was fine.
    I'm interested to try the long black. At home, I use an aeropress or moka pot and add a little water.

    • @stonebear
      @stonebear Před měsícem +3

      I'm likewise with the Aeropress. If I want more than the Aeropress will make natively but I want a cleaner cup than my French presses will make (i.e. I'm not putting cream in, or have a lighter roast, etc.), I go 20g drip-or-slightly-finer grind, 216g water in the 'Press, 2:30, press, then add 144g hot water; this yields about 350g of beverage, which is just about right for my "16oz" mugs...
      You could probably simulate a Long Black by pressing a James Hoffman fake espresso into (eyeballs the math) 110-120g hot water? (for those as don't grok that, 18g not-quite-espresso-grind, inverted or pressure cap, 90g water, stir _aggressively_, 1:30 steep, press - basically simulates what the Italians would call a "lungo" - 5:1 water to coffee)

    • @2NDFLB-CLERK
      @2NDFLB-CLERK Před 18 dny

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      Every morning my fish looks at me like I don't give him enough coffee.
      Friggin fiend.
      🟥

  • @BansheeBunny
    @BansheeBunny Před měsícem +1

    When you said to float the coffee over the water, it made me think of my old bartending days. It got me thinking about what would happen if you poured the hot water over the back of a spoon to heat it up, and then pour the espresso immediately over it; how it might effect the crema on a long black.

  • @MiniHD
    @MiniHD Před měsícem

    4:50 I love the fact that you pour your water into the empty glass in concentric circles, small but still circles! I guess that´s habitual!! 😀
    Otherwise - informative, clear and concise as usual! Congrats on the new studio space!! 😊

  • @dununfolette16
    @dununfolette16 Před 29 dny

    At my café, in France, we serve the espresso in a large cup and the hot water in a small pitcher so the customer can adjust the amont of water in their drink.
    Nice studio by the way 😊

  • @JerryFranklin-hf3gf
    @JerryFranklin-hf3gf Před měsícem +2

    Morgan "teaches" coffee. Tks gurl!♥

  • @antibot9804
    @antibot9804 Před měsícem +4

    In Austria, we have the "Verlängerter" ("elongated"), which is more or less the same as the Americano, usually served in a fairly large cup. It's probably a matter of people in different places having the same idea. Originally, it was probably made with mokka, not espresso, but nowadays espresso is the standard here.

    • @youViewerify
      @youViewerify Před měsícem +1

      Came here to ask if the Verlängerter was the same as Americano, thanks!

    • @Astavyastataa
      @Astavyastataa Před 17 dny

      That's neat. What I usually drink at home is a mocha with hot water added.

  • @rdaphoto
    @rdaphoto Před měsícem +1

    My wife and I were recently in China, where third wave coffee is definitely surging in popularity. My wife ordered americano’s, which were on every cafe menu, and we now realize that she received Long Blacks. She would ask for more hot water, and got quizzical stares every time. I guess the proximity of Australia to China has influenced the coffee culture.
    It was nice being able to get good quality coffee in China, which was not the case when I was last there in the mid-nineties!
    Thanks for the informative video…. I never really knew what a Long Black is…. Not a common item here in Canada.

  • @trystanjames2687
    @trystanjames2687 Před 9 dny

    Thanks Morgan! Very informative!!
    As a proud Aussie, my morning go-to at home is a long black.
    I'm not great at steaming milk, so when I'm out I'll spoil myself and get a magic 🙂.

  • @Alicat2911
    @Alicat2911 Před měsícem +3

    Morgan can you make a magic, they're also an Australian (specifically Melbourne) invention

  • @FunkyBukkyo
    @FunkyBukkyo Před měsícem +1

    When I was in Paris and asked for a Long, they served me an Espresso in a regular cup and a pot of hot water. So I pour in the hot water myself to my liking and to add more hot water in as I drink, watering it down. This makes kind of sense, as I am extending my coffee drinking time a bit longer than usual.
    Truthfully, if the water already poured in ahead of time, I don't think I could even tell the difference between an Americano or a Long Black.

  • @biankatoth1786
    @biankatoth1786 Před měsícem +4

    Hungarian here (working in Austria). Long black here comes usually as it is from the machine. It automatically brews the coffee with more water but I also put one shot of extra hot water in it, or when the guests require then I give and extra shot in a different cup.

    • @definiteIynotkenji
      @definiteIynotkenji Před měsícem +3

      isn't this an Italian "lungo" instead of the Australian long black?

    • @jean-michellae9041
      @jean-michellae9041 Před 19 dny +1

      @@definiteIynotkenji I would think Lungo also. Like a 1:3 to 1:5 ratio that one would do with a lighter roast bean. To be honest, I prefer this over a long black that is a bit a too watery in relation to the espresso flavor around it. If I want a longer coffee, then a drip definitely would have better aroma for me. I have to keep doing some long black for the wife though 😊

    • @definiteIynotkenji
      @definiteIynotkenji Před 19 dny

      @@jean-michellae9041 this is just me but for a high water ratio coffee nothing really beats a pour over. My wife prefers the coffee from her Nespresso :(

  • @Hangingofgiants
    @Hangingofgiants Před 18 dny +1

    Kiwi here. From my experiences working 10+ years in a variety of high end cafes, thats a prety long long black. And a tulip or ceramic cup is preferred (as you experienced).
    Sometimes folk want a filter with milk. I'll steer those people towards the americano mostly.

  • @vmitchinson
    @vmitchinson Před měsícem +1

    I vacationed for a month in Australia and had long blacks that were very strong. When I got back to Canada the drip coffee no longer satisfied, it was just hot water with brown colourering, no flavour. I searched for something like the long black. I finally found it with the Moka pot.

  • @nomadsolos
    @nomadsolos Před 17 dny

    Thanks for the lesson on a Long Black. I find that my tastes seem to change from time to time. I started out making Americanos when I first got an espresso machine. Over time I have come to prefer either a Flat White, or a Latte. Usually a double. If I want a black coffee I will usually just make a pour over. I will however give a Long Black a try. Thanks Morgan.

  • @cyberflotsam
    @cyberflotsam Před 19 dny

    Brit here - everywhere here seems to make Americano as espresso into hot water. Only variation seems to be that some baristas judge the amount of hot water right first time, others put in most of the hot water and top up to required size after adding the espresso.

  • @Stan_sprinkle
    @Stan_sprinkle Před měsícem +1

    Some other fun facts. I lived in both Singapore and Korea for years. In Singapore because of more Aussie influence I suppose, the proper coffee shops typically have long blacks, flat whites, etc in the menu (ignoring Singapore style coffee which is a diff thing).
    In Korea, Americano is king - anecdotally I noticed that the default drink for adults in korea is an Americano or iced Americano.

  • @smirbelbirbel
    @smirbelbirbel Před měsícem +3

    The fact that you felt the need to ask for people being cordial in the discussion of two drinks of espresso and water, tells you everything you need to know about the Internet. 😌

    • @ever55
      @ever55 Před 17 dny

      also tells you everything you need to know about coffee people

  • @YouTubedarek
    @YouTubedarek Před 26 dny

    Thank you CZcams algorithm for suggesting your channel! Great video! Subscribed!
    Long black gang here…and I like to live dangerously by making the shot directly into my cup of hot water 😏

  • @someone4437
    @someone4437 Před 18 dny

    My partner was a barista in Aotearoa (NZ) a few decades back and the way they built the Long Back in the cafe she worked in was to pull the espresso into the mug then provide the hot water in a small jug on the side.

    • @Moneyalmenial
      @Moneyalmenial Před 14 dny

      This is my experience living there and drink many long blacks (with cream)

  • @FreakyRufus
    @FreakyRufus Před 17 dny

    I spent a couple of months in Australia 24 years ago, and greatly enjoyed having long blacks during my time there. When I returned to the US, I never managed to find anywhere that knew what they were, and eventually gave up on it. It’s interesting to learn that lots of places in the US seem to serve them now.

  • @Cole205
    @Cole205 Před měsícem

    I am learning to be more cultured (drinking something other than Red Bvll) with the help of Morgan. Thank you!

  • @Johnnybananass-_
    @Johnnybananass-_ Před 3 dny

    another kiwi barista here fro the heyday of nfs coffee renaissance in the late 80's early 90s. we served long blacks straight double shots into the coffee cup then a small mini jug of hot water on the side, the customer could pour in the water they wanted, some would just double the liquid amount some would fill the cup. all on each persons taste, this was the early 90s so guessing the process has elevated to this pouring onto water in the cup haha .

  • @alecmanz9021
    @alecmanz9021 Před měsícem +1

    Hey Morgan, what type of glass is it you used in your video thumbnail (the one on the right) I've been trying to find a one with the same shape as it. Anyways, cool video!

  • @myltsyn
    @myltsyn Před 21 dnem

    long black is my favorite espresso-based beverage and now I know how to properly make it, thank you

  • @michaelferrin2688
    @michaelferrin2688 Před 21 dnem

    I do something kind of like these drinks at home. I don't have an espresso machine, but I do have an Aeropress. So I'll make the largest brew I can with it, put it in my usual travel coffee mug and then top it off with hot water. I've also done cold brew and added hot water to it.

  • @mojoneko8303
    @mojoneko8303 Před 8 dny

    I order Americanos a lot when I go to a coffee shop and add a splash of half and half. I have never heard of a long black before so I will give them a try. I like variety but the next time I walk into a coffee shop I'm tempted to order a Long Black Americano just to see what I get.. 🙂 Thanks for the video.

  • @Discobiscut
    @Discobiscut Před 16 hodinami

    An Ozzie here and my order for a long black is 3/4 and I top it with cold sparking/mineral water. this gives it a sparkly mouth feel and also takes the just-boiled water edge so you can drink straighaway

  • @cukymonster33
    @cukymonster33 Před 24 dny

    Your new studio is to echo-y. Good video

  • @jonkwin9620
    @jonkwin9620 Před 11 dny

    Going to cafes in the south island of New Zealand, it is quite common/usual to be served a long black in a cup around 1/2 to 3/4 full of just espresso, then get a small stainless jug with the hot water to add to your taste. This seems the best way to my partner who will always drinks long blacks.

  • @scottriley7145
    @scottriley7145 Před 29 dny

    We used to make a 1:1 ratio espresso and water and call it a cut double. Served the same purpose as a picollo latte to a latte. Fits right in with your analogy.
    Being an Aussie I probably fed into the Americano is espresso then water argument, but your analysis is better, its more about how they function for the drinker rather than exsctly how they're built.

  • @roberthenrypoet
    @roberthenrypoet Před měsícem

    0:00-0:01 What a change up! 😂

  • @fretless05
    @fretless05 Před měsícem

    I wonder, too, if there's some sweet spot to balance mouth feel and origin flavor. I expect adding more water can open up the coffee in that the lower surface tension might separate out the nuances of the flavors much like adding a bit of water to whiskey can. Interestingly, I find in drinking spirits that some respond better to water than others, which also makes me wonder if the ideal ratio of coffee to water will vary depending on the origin and the roast. All that said, I love good coffee, so consider the experiment worthwhile in its own right!

  • @VektrumSimulacrum
    @VektrumSimulacrum Před 13 dny

    Long Black was my go to when in AU. I miss it. Just not the same if Im not drinking it while strolling down the sidewalk in Williamstown or the CBD. 😢

  • @JoshuaFortuna
    @JoshuaFortuna Před měsícem

    when traveling and visiting a new cafe, ordering a long black is my benchmark for it’s going to be a good experience. if they don’t know what it is i adjust my expectations 😅

  • @sandrochiavaro7831
    @sandrochiavaro7831 Před měsícem

    “Espressos” is the real dagger Morgan lol. (I am being silly, no offenses) I know it’s correct also depending on what is the spoken language, but it killed me just a little . Love the new studio. Great vid.

  • @lovealwaysmom
    @lovealwaysmom Před měsícem

    @MorganDrinks Ill have to try these, but first is the making of the espressos. I prepare and drink pour over coffee at home. How do I go about making espresso? ratio of coffee to water?
    Thank you in advance.

  • @sayanama
    @sayanama Před měsícem +3

    I really really wish there was a combination of both, where the ratio remains the same as the long black but the total volume comes out to be 1 Litre or 32 oz.

    • @hannahbeckford-drake7538
      @hannahbeckford-drake7538 Před měsícem

      thats alot of caffeine :0

    • @KarstenLangPedersen
      @KarstenLangPedersen Před měsícem

      @@hannahbeckford-drake7538 Espresso is supposed to have a bit less caffeine than Drip, but .. at the Long Black ratio for a liter of finished beverage, you'd still be looking at about 6 double shots of Espresso. THAT, is too much for me. Almost 100g of beans would go into that. Normally, I'd use 60g of beans to 1 liter of water, for drip coffee.

  • @nawalismail8025
    @nawalismail8025 Před 5 dny

    Thank you for explaining this. I thought these drink is interchangeable (pardon my ignorance). No wonder all this while I think the cafe is not consistent, apparently I ordered wrongly. Thus, it come to light that I enjoy long black more than americano😂

  • @stkjjke
    @stkjjke Před měsícem

    I was expecting a Vienna type of coffee reading about the long black (Vienna coffee might be a complete series of its own - hint, hint😊). Haven't heard of it as the down under version before. Will definitely try that with my machine if it makes a difference using the pre selected programs for more water or filling up an espresso with hot water afterwards.

  • @jasonsandlerspeaks
    @jasonsandlerspeaks Před měsícem

    Interesting, my main go to coffee is a double espresso and let the water run a little longer so at the end the drink is about the size of a cortado, still has a great creme on it then.

  • @trace9657
    @trace9657 Před měsícem

    Congratulations on the studio space, but I am going to miss your cats appearing randomly.

  • @truenorthjess
    @truenorthjess Před měsícem +1

    As a Canadian in the UK i thought my only cafe quest was finding something similar to a London fog. Now my quest is ordering ammericanos and seeing if they do espresso or water first.

    • @KellyS_77
      @KellyS_77 Před měsícem

      Early gray tea with steam milk and a shot of vanilla?

    • @truenorthjess
      @truenorthjess Před měsícem

      @@KellyS_77 I've asked for that and they just don't understand, putting a tea bag in steamed milk is beyond them. The closest I've gotten was "I can give you earl grey tea with some steamed milk on the side".

  • @midoritea4413
    @midoritea4413 Před 18 dny

    How interesting! In the US, I have always seen Americanos being coffee first, then hot water, both in specialty shops and brand chains.

  • @MauroDelCore
    @MauroDelCore Před 29 dny

    As a person that worked in italian restaurants, I can tell you that in Italy when a customer ask for americano we usually pour the espresso on the cup and on top we add the hot water.... We call it "watery coffee" or "coffee soup".
    As an italian that live in UK i started to drink and appreciate the americano coffee, something that I never imagined I could enjoy.
    Never tried the long black, but if I had to compare the two I will say that the americano it probably remains more drinkable while getting cold, while the long black, that has a more stronger taste (like an espresso) it might become to bitter and so is ay best hot or at least warm. At least this is how I imagine... but I might be totally wrong.
    Something that I am sure of is that every coffee is good, with milk or black, with syrup or ice it just perfect 👌.
    Ps nice video looking forward for more 👌

  • @coffeesnob1992
    @coffeesnob1992 Před 17 dny

    Former Aussie barista here. In my cafe you can get an iced long black or a large long black (3 shots) in a 12oz cup. However, unless you ask for it, you'll get a standard (or regular) sized drink with 2 shots of espresso.

  • @rajTrondhjem10
    @rajTrondhjem10 Před 17 dny

    Great video..

  • @RevocerGM
    @RevocerGM Před 19 dny

    If I have a fancy bag of beans, I'll generally make a long black at first and take some time to enjoy it. But day-to-day I make Americanoes - I just need a big cup of hot bean-juice mostly. I still always pour the shot after the water though - it just looks better for absolutely zero extra effort.

  • @teh-maxh
    @teh-maxh Před měsícem +2

    IMO, making an americano espresso then water fits its origin story better. I'm not convinced that following that story is actually necessary, though.

  • @MrSteamDragon
    @MrSteamDragon Před 18 dny

    Great vid 🙂. You noted that you used 125ml of water for your long black. What was the amount of the shot you added ? Am keen to understand the ratio you applied here. I use a manual lever press espresso machine; it doesn't have a standard portafilter size like most auto machines do. Thanks heaps.

  • @cittylin
    @cittylin Před měsícem +1

    I only wanna live in a world where we debate coffee

  • @SimonLant
    @SimonLant Před měsícem

    As Americano is my go to coffee in the UK i noticed a distinction that Costa always seem to be espresso in to water and Starbucks seem to be water in to espresso. I assumed this was their SOP kicking in, but any other cafes have been a random mix of method. I always thought the long black was the sister of a flat white and that is fairly consistently same sized and smaller than other coffees on a traditional menu.

  • @ithulah
    @ithulah Před měsícem

    As an Aussie from Canberra, I thought they were pretty much the same thing. I think Aus coffee is a bit more straightforward, less leaning towards toppings and syrups etc. If you order a long black, you don't get questions. Ditto for latte and ... well really everything. I think perhaps we just like to know exactly what's in our coffees. Italian and Greek cafe culture had a huge impact on Aus. You get more US style coffee at the big chains, but they don't do very well here. I've spent some time in Canada and a little time in the US, and remember not liking the coffee. I'm not sure what proportion were drip, but they certainly tasted different! There must be differences other than drink names/ratios.

  • @NMEONES
    @NMEONES Před měsícem

    My favorite is 75ml hot water with a double shot pulled straight into the glass. Gives you enough to sip on but still amazing flavor and body!

  • @Pekz00r
    @Pekz00r Před 3 dny

    My wife is from Spain so I spend quite a lot of time there. In Spain an Americano is typically just an espresso where you put a lot more water though the puck,. They have typically 4 buttons on the espresso machine. Single short, double short, single long, or double long. For an americano you make a double dose and then press double long to get a pretty big drink. Drip coffee doesn't exist there more or less.

  • @MaththeNoob
    @MaththeNoob Před měsícem

    Morgan, have you heard of the Carioca? Here in Brazil, a very popular order is a Carioca (the word also means someone born in the city of Rio de Janeiro) and it's 30ml of espresso + 30ml of water, usually water goes in second. Matches very well the taste of the average Brazilian: weaker than Italian espresso and stronger than an americano. Usually filtered coffee is also rather strong in Brazil compared to the US and most of Europe.

  • @StrongImaginationA
    @StrongImaginationA Před měsícem

    There is also the German 'Verlängerter' - literally 'elongated' or 'lengthened'. I just looked it up and it's 50/50 water and espresso.

  • @grogvaughan5649
    @grogvaughan5649 Před měsícem +2

    No matter what coffee type I drink i always ramp up the ratios so i end up with 1000ml because that's the size of my drinking mug.

    • @NickiRusin
      @NickiRusin Před měsícem +1

      good mug

    • @grogvaughan5649
      @grogvaughan5649 Před měsícem

      @@NickiRusin I got it from American Science and Surplus. It's a 1000ml beaker with a handle big enough to put my hand in.

  • @tylerswanson6358
    @tylerswanson6358 Před měsícem

    My daily driver:
    20g in, 50g out; poured over ice
    splash of whole milk (~20 mL)
    top with cold water (~100 mL)

  • @belindaandjoelvanbergeijk9377
    @belindaandjoelvanbergeijk9377 Před měsícem +3

    May I ask how large your espresso shots were for this video?

    • @KarstenLangPedersen
      @KarstenLangPedersen Před měsícem

      An estimate would be 18-20g of beans for a 36-40g double espresso.

  • @anastasiiamoralez6763
    @anastasiiamoralez6763 Před měsícem

    What kind of camera did you use? I never see such a great quality of video. It feels like it’s real time video

  • @arcanum3000
    @arcanum3000 Před měsícem

    Something occurred to me when you mentioned floating the espresso on the water in the Long Black: In the cocktail world when doing a float it's common to pour it over the back of a barspoon. I wonder (mostly academically, since it's not my style of drink) if that methodology would have any impact on the Long Black.

  • @MrSteamDragon
    @MrSteamDragon Před 18 dny

    Question for our Aussie and Kiwi baristas.. whats the typical water to coffee ratio you teach your teams? Is there a golden rule of thumb or does it tend to vary from outlet to outlet. Cheers 👍🏻

  • @gal6371
    @gal6371 Před 22 dny

    I heard that an Americano is espresso on the bottom and the water and while you add the water it mixes the espresso more and the flavour is more consistent

  • @Lucas_S91
    @Lucas_S91 Před měsícem

    I thought the main difference between the two was the order of espresso and water. Never knew the long black had specific ratios. When I make what I would call a "long black" at home I typically go for a 1:1,25 or 1:1,5 ratio of espresso to water. I like the stronger flavour that way.

  • @bendarel
    @bendarel Před měsícem +5

    Wait, why is noone talking about the biggest travesty of this video ! Where is the slide ? >.<
    Joke aside, it's nice that a video gets put out about that the subject, it has been the subject of countless coffee circle debate and it will keep happening.