1957 Air Force F-100 crash found
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- čas přidán 18. 10. 2022
- I found out about this while visiting the Cherry Creek Museum. I couldn't find any directions or coordinates so I had to get creative.
Here's the full accident report by Dave Trojan from 2015.
www.aircraftwrecks.com/pages/...
Full accident report here:
www.aircraftwrecks.com/pages/dave%20trojan%20mrp/The%20Legend%20of%20Airplane%20Canyon%20story.pdf
Did he died?
@@Av-vd3wk Yes
My uncle is the one who died in this wreck. His plane lost oxygen and he went unconscious. Because he went unconscious the plane veered significantly off course and they were not able to find the plane and his remains for a month which was an extremely difficult time for my dad and grandparents and his wife. Uncle Ken was a great man and was best friends with my father. He left a wife and daughter.
The attached article mentioned a possible visit by family, I hope that brought peace to the bereaved. Can we guess that you were named after him?
Rest in peace
@@PiDsPagePrototypes Yes I was name after him although I never knew him. Even though he was a lot older than my father, he took my father with him wherever he went. He was my dad's best friend and he was devastated by his death. That month was the hardest of his life not knowing exactly what happened to him.
@@kenbacon640 I went down the rabbit hole on the story, and did spot where the aircrafts remains are via Google Earth. It's in a beautiful resting place, with the appearance of being 'close to the sky'.
I am a retired Navy Chief Petty Officer and enlisted aircrew with over 2,600 flight hours. Those of us that did this for a living take these stories very much to heart. It is a sad thing - and he died serving his Nation, and serving for all of us. Thank you for your Uncle's service, and your families sacrifice. Many people will be thinking of him this Memorial Day.
Brother Bacon was a friend and fellow church member. He worked with my explorer scout unit. Thank you for posting this. I still miss him
as a cadet with civil air patrol we marked that crash site in 1980-81, looks the same
I was a Cadet from 68-72. Now a Ltcol as a senior officer
It’s a crash site where a life was lost. It’s hallowed ground. Why some people can’t just respect that fact escapes me.
Thank you for the effort you’ve undertaken to show us this wreckage of the F-100. God bless the poor pilot who left his family far too soon 🥲🙏
Enjoyed your video. My father was Colonel Robert S Buchanan. He was the commandant of Edward Air Force Base test pilot school in the 60’s. Before that he was stationed at Holloman Air Force Base in New Mexico. He crashed on takeoff in an F100 and bailed out at a very low altitude. I remember him telling me all of his boot straps on both boots snapped when he hit the ground and he was temporarily paralyzed. A farmer had seen the crash and drove out to pick him up and take him to the base. After some time he fully regained his ability to use his legs and went on to have a stellar career in the Air Force and afterwards in Aerospace. Very proud of all these early test pilots who risked their lives.
I read they were one test pilot killed a week for some time but still no shortage of volunteers to join…
Thanks Ron. Respect sent to you for sharing this. And for the pilot and family🫡🇺🇸
Amazing video. I am from Uruguay, 85. I did see F100s from the US here in Montevideo when I was in my midteens. They were touring South America, still remember the noise and the fire from the afterburners.
Love the Amythest down your way!!! chow from Oklahoma
Awesome for you to take that hike and show us a piece of history. Clay from mobile Alabama
Thank you for doing this for the _vast_ majority of us who would otherwise never have the chance to get up there ourselves. I appreciate the supreme effort on your part.
Thank you for this touching video. My father was in the very first group of French pilots who came to train on the F-100 at Nellys AFB in 1958. This impressive aircraft therefore rocked my entire childhood.
Great detailed report. Kudos to those folks and reaching out to the family
That is an excellent site, I do aviation archaeology in the Sierra Nevada mountains. I've been to 35 different wrecks. Nice work there congrats on you're find
An F86 Sabre who thought he was lost in fog on final approach to McChord AFB in Lakewood Washington had actually flown all the way across the Canadian border and over the suburbs of North Vancouver BC straight into the top of Grouse Mountain, the USAF and RCAF recovered the pilots remains but pieces of the engine are still there with a memorial cairn for Lt. LAMAR J. BARLOW who crashed on Feb 12,1954
That was one heck of a hike, glad you made it back ok and all gear was safe. Very interesting crash site.
That was a cool adventure/hike. Looked so peaceful there. RIP to the pilot.
I was just at the US Air Force Museum last week and I was admiring a Super Sabre up close and personal. It was a good looking jet for it's time. Also it was the first combat jet to be able to fly super sonic in level flight.
Crashed aircraft get stripped all the time! I remember that the airforce has hauled parts and whole aircraft from remote areas. Museums and collectors loot or haul off complete wrecks for restoring or key parts that in some cases haven’t been manufactured in 50 to 80 years.
Thanks for sharing this Ron!
People should not be taking souvenirs from this wreck it is a graveyard 🪦
There's a couple of crash sites I want to get to in the Colorado mountains. One of them is my grandmas first husband way back in the 1950s.
It was an Air Force C-47. Crashed into Mt Yale in September 1956. No survivors.
Great cardio.. Aircraft wreckage like that is a place where someone lost their life….. It shouldn’t be cut up for scrap or anything. Just sad RIP….
Amazing how since 1957, the ash from the fires has not blown away, nor blended with the dirt around it. It looks as though it crashed just recently. Desert climate is amazing. On top of that, the fact none of the brush destroyed by the fire in 1957 ever regrew
Excellent video and thank you for taking the time to post it for everyone. Love that country - hope to retire there one day.
Thanks for posting this.
Thanks Rod for the effort, good video!
It was a fun trip. Took a long time to figure out how to find it.
I find it strange that the Air Force never came to collect it….
The least one could do is to pry for the man who lost his life serving his country.
No amount of prayers are going to bring him back.
Great video. Thanks for sharing. Be safe.
Great vid, thanks for sharing.
neat video, i just subscribed. Too bad the cockpit wasn't available for a look...thanks for posting this. i'll check out your other content soon!
Intriguing place to visit and explore! Two thumbs up!
*_I have to tell my buddy about this. Very cool. He has wanted to go check this out. It's excellent, Vid; thanks for sharing._*
Imagine hauling a torch up there for $20 worth of metal. Some people will do anything other than getting a job.
It's more than 20 $ 10k in weight of most likely 200 series or other aerospace alloys .
Do the math
@@RinkyRoo2021 nobody is hauling 10 thousand ponds off that, 😂. Guy can barely stand, anyone that goes up there carries his $20 worth of metal down.
You’re making an awful a lot of assumptions. You do realize people that have jobs often times are free on the weekends, right?
@@stevencramsie9172 sure, a person will spend every weekend for the next 20 years going up and down steep hills to get thousands of pounds of metal. I guess there are obsessive compulsive losers like that. I guess you win.
The Air Force itself probably hauled any large missing sections out by helicopter.
Well done. Very interesting!
3:05 Lost an uncle in a SAC F100 crash on 02/12/57 in Mississippi. 1st lieutenant Leon D. Gladding Jr. Those jets were cursed.
It was the first supersonic from series production when I remember right. Yeah, I guess it had some difficulties.
849 Pilots got killed by that aircraft and none of them were war related. Kind of scary
No. You're thinking of the F104 Starfighter, nicknamed The Widow Maker by German pilots. The F100 was not that plane. The F100 was the U.S.'s first true Supersonic fighter; super sonic flying was in it's infancy when the F100 was designed and built so there were going to be accidents. Of the 2500 or so F100's manufactured around 300 were lost in crashes killing the pilots.
@@MikeM275 No, the Starfighter didn't kill that many pilots, either. The USAF lost around 900 Super Sabers, killing 324 pilots.
@@dukeford8893 I believe that's what I said...around 300 pilots killed in the F100. 242 were shot down or crashed in Viet Nam, others in non combat flying. There is a data base showing every single F100 incident from day one until retiring in 1979, including shot down over Vietnam, crashes here in the states, England, China, Taiwan, Okinawa, and etc. etc. Every single incident of every 100 ever. 449 either crashed or were shot down or had other "incidents" worldwide that were considered write offs, not all were fatal of course, and not all being flown by the U.S.
The Starfighter though was monumentally worse. It had the worst accident/death per flying hour than any other plane, ever. At least 1000 were destroyed in crashes and adding U.S. deaths to worldwide deaths there were over 400 deaths in the 104. Hence the Germans nicknamed it 'The Flying Coffin."
The cause of the crash doesn't sound mysterious. It sounds like it was undetermined. As for protected, if its on public land its likely documented as a cultural site and, ultimately, protected. However the ability to enforce that has to do with funding and priorities. As a matter of personal code, out of respect to the pilot and the accident, all items related to the wreck should just be left in place. Would you break off a piece of the USS Arizona for a souvenir? Its kind of the same thing. Thanks for the video. It must have been a chore to film.
Use dron (if you can with local laws) to see everything from the air and to find crash site faster
Generally speaking, any man-made artifacts that have sat on public land for more than 50 years are considered archeological in nature and are illegal to disturb or remove.
Very interesting. I am surprised one is able to get to the site.
Very cool & a very fun way to go motorcycle adventure riding!
I was able to find 2 Huns on the Mogollon Rim in AZ.
Love it! Good stuff. Looks like your timing was perfect what with the weather changing soon.
I would have asked if you wanted to go but I left quickly with little planning and knew I only had 4 days of good weather. Mid October is generally a good time for a Nevada trip except my camping gear wasn’t good enough to keep me warm at night. Night time temps were in the 30’s so I stayed in cheap motels. I’m looking at those insulated sleeping bag lines at this time. Did you make it to Wetfest?
@@BlackdogADV Made it only to Wallowa this year. Long story, Just got the gear and bike sorted out now. Thinking of another trip soon. I'll DM you.
@@BlackdogADV Hey, check your emails :) totally missed you for the trip down the gorge
Am surprised the Air Force left it there.
Thanks for sharing Ron, really enjoyed this!
Great video
There's a crash site that resembles this in the hill above Boulder Co.
Been there its pretty cool
Tried to find it on Google Earth but no luck. "about 10 miles west of Cherry Creek, CA, USA"
Is the wreckage to see on google maps?
Is the cockpit still there?
Quite a climb. You must be in Good shape! Did you feel an eerie presence at that site?
that crash is really intact
Where is this?
I crashed an F100 once. Zero stars, would not recommend
where's the cockpit?
Was there any fuselage forward of the engine?
The forward section burned up. This is from Dave Trojan’s accident report from 2015:
The forward section of the plane was completely burnt out. The vertical tail had been cut off and there were torch marks on several other pieces. The Pratt & Whitney J57 engine was relatively intact and by examining the inside of the engine it appeared that it was not running at the time of impact.
Good vid Rod...just for legal info, that crash site, and the plane are still "property" of USAF and thus US Govt, but I would assume given area etc, the remains of said crash have long since been forgotten.
There was a supreme Court case that declared abandoned Federal property is fair game.
@@philiphorner31 abandoned and crash site are totally different
Instead of leaving my gear, I have a cable lock that I run through my suit and chin bar and the bike. No good way to lock the boots up unfortunately if I have to leave them so I just put them under the suit.
North American F-100 Super Sabre. Cutting the titanium very expensive metal. off limits no signs so anyone can go up there take whatever.
I learned about the wreck in 2024
On a CZcams video!
Very cool
Super Saber!
Helicoptor Crane!!
Poor chaps god bless them
Looking on Google Earth in 2024, crash site is hard to spot, but still there on the satellite imagery.
Would you be able to provide coordinates? I tried checking it out but wasn't able to spot myself.
@@philmycrackin1034 I kinda want people to find it for themselves, it's one of those sites where if should be hard to find and hard get to, so that people don't go tear apart what's left of it. I will tell you, that the clues aren't obvious, but they are there in the video, and, it's not where most would think to look.
I've had a f150,250,350,450 and 650. F100 before my time. 😅
F-100 Super Sabre. Came into it's own at the end of the Korean War.
It's the Air Force, if they wanted to they could fly the remains out by helicopter. Men on the ground rig the sling and hook it to the choppers line. If helicopter logging can be done, this could be removed but there was no will to do so.
If the crash site was in Los Angeles county the plane would be covered in graffiti.
Just before it was demolished, just that jet engine by itself was probably a half-dozen of your entire lifetimes in taxes!
Kinda of a sad end to a historical artifact, but military aircraft are sort-of a consumable. That's why they have ejection seats.
at 5:33 looks like an air tank. see them regularly at auto swap-meets..I have two, stainless steel..
Oxygèn tank??
Did he died?
Yes.
I can’t believe any person would ever fly onboard a airplane is beyond me and then there are whole armies built of flying fighter pilots it’s so mind boggling to me how could anyone physically even do it never mind enjoy it that’s insane to me I’d rather fly on the back of a dragon or large bird than fly on a plane I wonder if someday they will all quit and refuse to fly
WE think?
'57? Had that been in Appalachia, the plane would be mostly gone.
Or a family of hillbillies might've moved into the remains of the fuselage
J57engine sitting there
Why didn’t they come and clear their shit up. Of course they have the capability to do it
Put oil on that engine and it will start
Government should have cleaned up the mess instead of it just laying around. How about taking care of mother nature?
Bikini atoll
Click bait at best
Just admit it you forgot the flag
Bad footage ! 👎🏻
This is ponderous... Sure looks staged to me.
Staged?? Who in their right mind would go through that kind of effort to "stage" an aircraft wreck in the mountains?? What purpose would that serve?? 🤦♂️
😂 Maybe you should double up on your tin foil hat. looks like a flat spin to me.
@@guaporeturns9472Yep, looks like Alex Jones-type nonsense...
@@str8ballinSA Dude must have been a “crisis pilot”
Yep.
Someone hauled tons of steel up the mountain just to make this video.
Take a piece of that crash and you may very well be taking a very bad spirit into your home and life..think before you do something that you dont understand.
That must be why all the war museums are full of ghosts..... 😂
In peaceful countries they say a gun is haunted if its taken a life 😂
Where is this?