Four Things HOLDING YOU BACK from GETTING GUD at DBFZ
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- čas přidán 13. 07. 2024
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After playing online some, I noticed a few bad habits/perspectives on play from most people that I play. If you can fix just one of these things, you will improve a lot!
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i mess with you heavy for dropping this as soon as i got off fighterz. had a bad day on ranked
It be like that sometimes, you'll bounce back 🚶
Is there even such a thing as a good day on ranked? In my experience, it's been win-once, get stomped 10 times smh
@@tobebuilds that's the fun part. getting stomped 10 times doesn't feel fun at the start but the moment you have the realization that you are playing to get better and not playing to win every match you will eventually start winning and ranks will just come naturally.
2 years of playing this game and I had no idea you gain back an air option after blocking in the air...
legitimately hitting people is a real problem online since the opponent is usually getting opened up before you go for the really strong mix up.
Pumpingpriest- DE Deadass, the number of times I hit people with Cell and his 6H in a blockstring
@@uraverageweeaboo1723 yeah but that's one of the reasons I like to use him since his 6m gets stronger due to this as well. People can't stand up blocking because there third low can come every time😁 but yeah I almost never use his ex perfect attack mix since it just isn't necessary online especially with his great staggers
What rank are you in?
@@mrevilducky I'm an ultra instinct sign player
Thanks for making this LK! I’ve been in a rut, not getting better and I think this will help a lot
hey LK you're cool
LK would like to see you talk more about building ways outside of system mechanics to hit the opponent
Seems like a big enough topic for it's own vid
Great content as always!
Right now it’s the fact that it for some reason won’t let me play ranked matches
I’ve sat for 5 hours max since season 3 waiting for a match and have yet to be matched, I have all my settings as open as possible to fight anyone
Thank you for making this!
Learning how to Super Jump Instant Air Dash fixed the "No Mix" feeling as well
my issue is that when I'm in a scramble situation my opponents always seem like they're one step ahead of me and they know exactly how to always get a hit on me. Meanwhile I always struggle to touch them at all.
Darnell U same
I have this problem too, but the answer is basically just to leave the scramble. Backdash, airbackdash, jump, jump into air backdash. Just minimize your risk of getting hit right now, then get back to playing now.
It may be your characters too. If you play a character that doesn't have to buttons/mobility to rip your opponents' Kid Buu from the air, it is a LOSING battle. Don't play your opponents game and force your opponent to play your characters' game if possible with smart assist usage.
Same bro I feel you
Darnell U this may sound obvious but you shouldnt try to do stuff because it makes sense to go for that in this situation but rather do stuff because your opponent is gonna think u do something more obvious. perfect example is coming down with buttons after a successful up tech. i might seem like a good idea (off course this is situational) to go for it if your above them but a decent player will get the 2h 90% of the time. instead you should try to read that he is waiting for the 2h because he sees your up tech and either try to get out with an advancing special or just block the 2h... even a really good player wont be ready most of the time to cancel the 2h into a special that could lead to a mix up. at lower ranks some ppl always superdash after 2h wich is easy to punish. but a general rule to read your opponent or to play neutral (specially in scrambles) is to not try to guess what the opponent is gonna do but making him think he has a read on you and punishing that.
Thank you great video improved my game dramatically... Keeping it simple
Loving the consistency bro!!
9:17 kid buu’s entire character is a mixup
ur music is always goated
Vids are amazing!!!!
Have you made a video on how to deal with the defensive options in the game on a knockdown situation?
I typically have a problem controlling what people do on wake up and its mad frusturating losing my pressure to
Up tech, mash, delay mash, reflect, forward tech etc. Idk if this is worth a whole video too but its definetely frustursting to deal with.
Quick tip. Practice meaty timing. For when people down tech, when they delay tech, when they up tech. If you don't jump then forward tech gets then out of the corner. You can't always cover 100% of everything but you can cover most options. So, practice different meaty timings, different timings for maybe dragon rush on wakeup like if they up tech, jump DR is amazing.
Calling an assist to deal with neutral tech and up tech and then reacting to delay tech could make the oki scenario a bit easier for ya.
just pick piccolo a assist
I didn't know you gained an air option back after blocking in the air thanks!
I never want to be JUST better than the average player with interests in the fighting genre. I don't ever expect to go Global or Evo champion - but several tiers above the norm, is where I typically, aim to be. Anything higher is accepted, obviously, but I know I don't grind FighterZ enough on my down time to fully, iron out the kinks and fundamental factors that I probably still, don't know of.
Anywho. Cool vid.
Best dbfz guide
Thanks for all the advice! By the way, in the last tip, wouldn’t doing super dash high low be relying on the system because it’s universal? Hope you and your family are safe and healthy LK.
2 years in and only now do I learn I get an extra air action after blocking... Thanks.
Hey man, I play a lot online , pretty high rank but I’m having a hard time with 5H to super dash rejump combos. A video on that would be great
No one gonna mention the Forbidden memories music in the background? Nice touch
MANNNNNNNNNNN I RECOGNIZE IT TWO. Good times at that game, love the soundtrack.
When so you play your subs? I want to play a couple matches and hopefully you can give me some advice on my gameplay style.
Movement and pace man. Online I win so many games just because I'm waiting and moving around watching their neutral habits. Most players online and Just want to rush in. If you learn how to control the pace of the game you get free hits all the time
When i fight against a pink square, i expect some legit 50/50, but i only get dr and 6m, that tilts me lol, at least i try my best to not rely on them that much
You should make a video on how to use reflect. As in the situations where it is a good and bad option when your in a block string or other things
xxSenju you cant generally say its good to reflect in certain situations. it always depends on how your opponent adapts and how he plays in the first place. if i fight someone new i always reflect after i block a vanish and try to punish them. in general: always go for it when you feel like you know your opponent is gonna press a button until they try to punish it. but keep in mind that you have to reflect more than once against certain characters/certain reflect proof blockstrings.
Watch rath fgc
nack at it again bruh!!!
pink square stuck in high demon low ssj3 rank, helped a lot
RC7 FGC trash
Emeka Akaluso lemme guess , you’re Zen-Oh?
RC7 FGC Rose with only 500 matches played
So lk were do you start you gave these tips but I'm not sure what to go with first I guess cleaner inputs?
My main issue aside from getting caught by mixup (Let’s say cornered by Bardock and he uses 236M with an explosive assist so I miss the high-low), is even if I survive the offense, I don’t know when to poke my foot out. What’s a good tell for when it’s my turn? Or how to start it when an opponent’s being hyper aggressive and/or making the openings unclear?
Here before first/second guy.
Lets have a set sometime! On PS4, i'm actually searching for people to play with
How do you make the superdash mix up a true 50/50? I was practicing defending against with Bardock and Trunks beam and I can block it 8 out 10 times. I could always see Bardock landing and beam wasn't obscuring him enough.
Press buttons before you land, or after you land after the superdash since the opponent is still in blockstun from the assist, that's what makes it a 50/50
@@cenizen That's not what I mean. What I mean is that I can see Bardock is about land and change my guard on reaction.
@@bunny1866 I guess the recording you made isn't tight enough
you can never make sd beam an unreactable 50/50 like a basegeta or perfect cell mix. it can be hard sometimes if you get really good at it. I recently saw a match were someone fought OBAssasin and they only tried to open him up with sd assist and it didnt work a single time.
Watching these vids makes me realize I’ll never put In the ridiculous amount amount of work to be decent at this game.
It doesn't take that long to know the mechanics and be good...its the easiest and best fighters game in the world
Bruh hop online and mash auto combos, 6m, and dragon rush. You'll be godlike in seconds.
Sneeze I know the mechanics, I’m a living legend rank, it is one of the easier fighting games to play but fighting games are so hard to begin with That it’s still incredibly hard to play properly
halfstrike721 once you get the mechanics and your combos down, the only thing to do is get more experience by playing/watching others or better players. You can do a bit at a time, you don’t have to grind for 5 hours a day
@@dashuntas.m4045 I'm having a hard time consistently doing combos. I know how to do most of them but physically doing them on a dpad sucks. Doing quarter circle movements on a dpad has never been consistent for me. Sometimes it works sometimes I'm pressing it and it's just dropping or not doing what I want. It's a serious issue because I cant do combos without dropping them even though I know how to do the combo. I'm starting to think I should try a fighting stick it should be easier to do the movements I think
I hope someone help me, I don’t what to do against people that delays wake up and reflect, when I try to bait the reflect they wake up smashing or up teching and stole my turn, is so frustrating
Practice the timing, delay wake up can be beaten with the correct timing or call an assist that covers these options and then go for a mix or if it did hit you can convert of the hit into a full combo
My question is since i play using a controller, is it better to use the d pad or the thumbstick? Does one have an advantage?
how can i defend online when most of my matchups are above 5 fr delay laggers?
Hey LK one someone is forward dashing after your block there super dash is there anyway to punish that forward dash?
If they don't cover it with an assist you can use an anti-air like 2H. You can also reflect it if they immediately press buttons after the dash or you can use your DP (if your character has one)
@@valentino967 thank you, now what if you collide superdash in the air and they forward dash with buttons, is there anyway to punish or atleast not have hold the pressure?
@@codyhamilton1012 No problem. You can always backdash if you are not in the corner. Quick tag is also an option. If the startup isn't too slow you may cancel into a special move. The EX Legs of Adult Gohan can counter this scenario. Fast fall is also an option for chracters Like Adult Gohan or Android 17. Of the top of my head Vegito could probably punish it too with his 2S. Which characters are you playing? Note that this scenario can also occur when you tech an dragon rush as you regain your jump, although the distance between the players seems a bit different in this case.
@@valentino967 I'm running base vegeta blue goku and gotenks. I'm mean I'm no rookie im ssj rose rank so I know alot of things but I just cant lie when someone forward dashes after a clash with buttons it gets me I just sit there and block and deal with the mix all over again . Thank you for stating if were on the ground I can 2h it though that helps alot.
@@codyhamilton1012 Yea no problem. Cool team you got. Let's keep get better mate :-)
Stuck in ss3/Majin rank.
When wake up and defense no work, is very salty.
melty content please
What if my team/characters has no air tight mixups (example: base vegeta 236s mixups)
If your team has no airtight mixups then you should probably think about changing that team a bit. Relying on scrambles and neutral to get hits in can be really good but if you play against someone who is good enough to keep themselves covered in those situations, you'll need to open them up and if you're at the higher levels of play then it's going to be harder and harder the better someone is at defense.
@@Bussy-Hunter I'm sort of having this issue. Rn I haven't spent any time in training mode and the only mix I know how to perform is cooler 50/50s that aren't really airtight.
@@infernate4067 It's hard to get really good mix outside of labbing in trainer for hours but you can still do the basics like 2L, 5L, DR for easy openers on people who have good guard online. DR is hard enough to tech online but when you have the option to throw it out during the start of a blockstring it's pretty much impossible to tech.
early gang
I'm new to fighting games (roughly 8 months) and my only experience has been casual smash 4. I'm currently demon rank with extremely minimal practice mode matches. I have about 650 matches played total. I just wanna know how the training mode works so I can mix up the bots options to practice reactions. Currently running Cell-(DBS)Broly-Cooler and I'm really thinking this team will stick.
Have you considered watching your replays? Yes it may be cringe worthy but it gives you homework to take to the lab. Because what are you going to lab if you have nothing to work on outside of optimal combos coming from obvious' situations? (2H starter combo, air hit combo, etc.) If you need better combos, look for the right resource for it. If you need to work defending specific strings/situations against certain types of pressure, the lab can work to simulate that for you to learn how to defend and punish correctly.
@@t4d0W My question about training mode was how it actually functions. I'm so dumb that I don't know how to set any of it up correctly. I know I need to learn my options in situations against matchups I don't quite understand but I'm really just confused as to how to set that up to lab.
@@t4d0W And I really appreciate the reply!
There are multiple videos about using training mode on this channel 🙏 Hope this helps!
czcams.com/video/I9opjxNuX20/video.html
LK listen. I hop online and I get my cheeks CLAPPED by niggas that just use 6m. Please lend me your energy so I can keep fighting. I was just about to start going to my locals before this lockdown shit too 😔
I just wanna be good already!! 😩
Focus on improvement rather than the result, you'll get there before you notice.
The movement one is big for me. F*** combos. I need way to get them in blockstrings in the first place. I can mind game to make my wayup, but the super jump floating is hard to use. When I try i immediately get super dashed at. There is a lot to learn here, and no video. How about some commented gameplay about why a player did X or Y actions?
try practicing to jab the opponent out of the superdash after superjumping or at the very least block and everything is fine and maybe use a good assist to get in. I for example use frieza's b assist for that purpose and I win so often neutral thanks to his insanely good assist
You can still block the second your feet leave the ground, try super jumping by pressing diagonal up.
I will try practicing the jab out of a SD in the air. Another issue I think, is kind of dumb, but I am not sure how to use the training mode to practice these. For instance, how to determine, when I fall, I should jM or jH on the opponent, or if he will 2H me. When I play online, I noticed that sometimes I let the opponent jumps on me, and I am "I'm gonna 2H your ass", but somehow it doesn't come fast enough.
@@Polopollo75 Are you able to post videos to youtube? If you could just post a snippet of what you're trying out, I could do my best to point out what you're doing wrong.
@@cenizen Thanks. For instance here: SgUK5SeWTwg at 2:18, I should have the advantage, and I was scared of going on the opponent. Or at 3:30 (or all the end), I feel the opponent is trying to teach me something, and I am just literally clueless. It is painful to even watch the replay.
Or in this one I tried to be "ok he likes to jump and fall on me, I;m gonna try to run and 2H 4gcsN43BQgA (at 2:40).
Here N9yEovWsmR0 I won, but honestly that was a mess. Most of my games are like that. I feel I need to get bodied a lot more to understand a lot more things. For training I am unsure on how to practice movements.
well, I struggle with lag
5. you lack the mashing skills when there's too much random sh *t happening on screen
It's ok to say that people mess with the great defensive tools the game has, but it would be far more useful to say how where to use what!
There are a few vids on defense on this channel! Hope this helps!
czcams.com/video/XaTy0p_WweM/video.html
Hey LK can you make a video debating why the Snap Meta was good for Dragon Ball?
Why would you make such a stupid argument?
mega dude cuz snap let you get some oki/setup that covers (almost) everything after a hit, a lot of time in DBFZ it doesn’t feel like you get rewarded for getting a SD. But snap did look boring as fuck, but it let people get their money’s worth out of a confirm
@@jasn6972 You just contradicted your own argument, when you have setups that cover (almost) everything, it's literally unfair since you can't counterplay that shit. You shouldn't get rewarded so much off something as easy and good as a superdash.
I didn’t get what he meant by Clean input can anyone explain
you don't mash - but this game rewards mashing sometimes so..
Can you tell me how stagger was nerfed please? I had no idea
If you use your assists, they don't recharge simply because you let them out of blockstun - now they have to be out for X amount of frames (easy rule is that if they can tag, then your assists start coming back).
@@LordKnightfgc You the man!
Peepeepoopoo
One thing holding this game back from actually being good: Auto-combos on whiff. Patch that shit out already man. It would improve the tiers, to say the least.
Dont just auto combo, tie it in with a lockdown down combo on the ground or something. If they jump then have some kind of air tech or something for their reversal. Lab it yo
@@anthony89107 auto combos on whiff are game-breaking and scrubby. I dunno what there is to lab.
@@Af0 thats just auto combos in general, someone could easily hit 2M on a whiff and do a whole structured combo or just auto-combo, its just like, dont whiff at that point, lab by setting the ai to do what you need it to do. Make combos airtight so you dont whiff or cover your options with assist more
About time!!!!
No disrespect but you youtubing gran blue is holding me back lol get back to dbfz
movement im still confuse when you dash jump other than F,F,Uf is it possible just to F,Uf for a shorter input like iad just asking
"No disrepect but..." proceeds to talk to him like if you were his boss.
>Okay
Hey bro, if you press up/forward and your super dash button, that will give you an iad
96 and 9+super dash macro will give you instant airdashes.
I like GBVS too but I'll be basically uploading about whatever I'm into at the moment 🏃
@@vegito123456 thanks for saying it right i forgot about the number pad system...
Sorry for disrespectful comments, i'm from hands first ask questions later... My Bad comments deleted
Why would I practice offline tech if I’m never going to play offline?
Me playing as if it’s offline online only benefits you. You want me to not do something so you don’t get frustrated online because you don’t want to adapt you just want to blame the 3fps delay.
I’m not talking about mashing either. It’s just your idea of adopting offline tech for online tech is dumb.
If you don't care then just do you, I'm not trying to stop you. There's nothing on the line in ranked anyways.
But often, there are people who perform well online and don't realize that they are too used to a different type of environment. It's worth addressing if you're trying to improve at both the game and the genre.
I just got the game and have 23 losses and 0 wins lol
Edit: 32 losses 189 wins let's go
Defence in DBFZ:
Regular Blocking
Reflect
Guard Cancel
Solo Guard Cancel
Superdash
Backdash
Ki blasts
Beams
Reflect+Raw Tag
Sparking Blast
Clash
Delayed Wake Up
Of of the corner moves(lariat type moves)
DP's
Vanish
Jabs and 2H(against superdash)
And some of you think the game has no good defensive mechanics, L.O.L
Git gud scrubs.
You forgot the Disconnect option
@@cenizen 😂😂😂 True.
Jedrek Przekwas how are keyblast and beam defensive options?
Almost all of those are attacks though