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  • čas přidán 16. 08. 2024
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Komentáře • 128

  • @irvintang2751
    @irvintang2751 Před 4 lety +205

    I loved when pros teach us fundamentals, so few does this, most just do combos and show off.
    Hope you can teach us individual mix ups, assist usage and other neutral techs next.

    • @yenice3652
      @yenice3652 Před 4 lety +11

      @Hobo J you're big cappin man

    • @robloxvempor
      @robloxvempor Před 4 lety +2

      Hobo J probably how to come up with them. The guys might be new to this lmaoo.

    • @ernestocuengil1366
      @ernestocuengil1366 Před 4 lety +8

      Same lol like ok cool combo, I learned it, but how do I APPROACH and avoid getting hit lmao

    • @A.S.28
      @A.S.28 Před 4 lety +6

      "and show off" these guys spend hours training, fighting other pros to practice and your dumb ass thinks they are showing off ? Bro... y'all don't deserve these videos 😂 you wanna know what he eats for breakfast too?

    • @rellturn5650
      @rellturn5650 Před 4 lety +2

      @Hobo J I guarentee if you made your own mixup and calling it easy then its probably not hard to escape either.

  • @semja
    @semja Před 4 lety +78

    A key part of the neutral explained by an expert. Awesome.

  • @POGSync
    @POGSync Před 4 lety +76

    You’re honestly a god send in this community just all these simple things explained by you that make learning the game and practicing so much easier. Thankyou so much!

  • @arieltesarasky5807
    @arieltesarasky5807 Před 4 lety +73

    I had no Idea about the floating or fast falling , thank you so much a pillar of the comunity hoping to see more :)

    • @plazmamasta193
      @plazmamasta193 Před 3 lety

      In case you didn’t find this out but you can transfer it to combos as simple as starting off with down then up 5L and what ever move that involves you to teleport like goku black,bluku, or cell you get the float and fast fall property allowing for nasty mixups or cross ups

  • @jesseb08
    @jesseb08 Před 4 lety +19

    This is exactly what ive needed, thank you sage sensei

  • @Cal-nm1pc
    @Cal-nm1pc Před 4 lety +10

    God like thumbnail Sage, Movement is a very underrated mechanic in 2D Fighters. ( Shouts to Skullgirls

  • @FlubbaTRUFFLE
    @FlubbaTRUFFLE Před 4 lety +1

    I just got back into the game and I just wanted to say that your videos have helped me the most by far! I was having trouble with rejumps and your simple tip of wait right before they hit the wall made it so easy to learn, and also this video with super jump movement! I didn't even know that there was this kind of movement in this game, thank you so much for all you've been doing and I look forward to other things you release!

  • @nightish_one6007
    @nightish_one6007 Před 4 lety +17

    Love these videos, you have no idea how helpful they are! Could you do a video about stagger pressure? I play Cell, and apparently he is good at it, I just don't know how to use it.

  • @NinjaGuyDan_
    @NinjaGuyDan_ Před 4 lety +2

    If you use dash macro (6+HS) you can get the dash super jump instantly by inputting 1,9HS. Basically your character goes from standing still to jumping full screen, no startup

  • @hadramawut29
    @hadramawut29 Před 4 lety +1

    I have over 2k matches and I didn't even know about float and fast float. The scariest player matchups for me used to be players who were super jumping and floating (they always seem to play bardock and cell lol). Thanks sage.

  • @Zaimui
    @Zaimui Před 4 lety +2

    I needed this. I always lost great matches to just getting jailed by Bardock, Kefla, and Base Vegeta

  • @smuggles2124
    @smuggles2124 Před 4 lety +10

    Great video, do you think you could do a flip side of this video and explain how you could go about countering some of these movement options? Particularly super jump and float, I only ever hear about how good it is but never see anyone talk about counter play. It starts to feel that 90% of the answer to neutral is super jump back and have an anti air assist.

    • @hisradiancelordnasty
      @hisradiancelordnasty Před 2 lety

      super dash and force them to take the block string and respond or open up. good w/ a bar of ki for vanish punishing a special or air move w/ telegraph startup

  • @McDoubleFunny
    @McDoubleFunny Před 4 lety

    Movement is super slept on advice for beginners in this game. I feel like its the hidden language of the pros that they dont share enough to up and comers. Even mid-level DBFZ players. It is super vital to learning the game, both offensively and defensively. Thank you for the video. I can't wait to share it to my friends trying to pick up the game. It is too bad superdash exists that kind of saturated the idea of learning movement when first picking up the game competitively.

  • @Mickeybandz
    @Mickeybandz Před 4 lety +8

    I was watching ur skull girls vids then u posted a video a minute after I finished lmao

  • @reisvanderpol5413
    @reisvanderpol5413 Před 4 lety +8

    I've been playing DBFZ since its release and i never knew you could float/fast fall.

    • @aestheticz4577
      @aestheticz4577 Před 4 lety

      Yeah me too, season 2 was when I found out, it’s really useful to avoid beams better

  • @Starman_Dx
    @Starman_Dx Před 4 lety +1

    Thanks Sage, hope you're doing well.

  • @bg-cc6hn
    @bg-cc6hn Před 4 lety +1

    Great info, would love to see more fundamentals guides like this!

  • @YouAlreadyKnowBabi
    @YouAlreadyKnowBabi Před 4 lety

    You just opened up the flood gates bro.

  • @kingknicky
    @kingknicky Před 4 lety +2

    Hope your feeling better bro

  • @persecom
    @persecom Před 4 lety +1

    Dbfz is my first fighting game. I don't know a lot of rules about neutral. Thank you for these tutorial videos sage

  • @ITzAhhMehMardio
    @ITzAhhMehMardio Před 4 lety +1

    we love you dekillsage

  • @Tofa_illo
    @Tofa_illo Před 4 lety +1

    Thanks for the video safe. This is gold.
    If you make another video on fundamentals could you explain how sj iad float works and why people use it. (I think that’s what they do) ta!

  • @chop9suey
    @chop9suey Před 4 lety

    Thank you!! I’ve been waiting on a movement video. This will definitely help with my neutral.

  • @Brian_F
    @Brian_F Před 4 lety

    📝

  • @spiderweb33
    @spiderweb33 Před 4 lety

    A movement video with no super dash? Wild

  • @AnimeFreak2204
    @AnimeFreak2204 Před 4 lety +5

    Great vid bro do more stuff like this for noobs like me, really helps out

  • @asatowolfe
    @asatowolfe Před 4 lety

    I think a bigger issue is that people tend to slow down a bit the second they lose the advantage in a match and they rarely get that momentum back. Myself included. It's a comfort zone thing and I think people need to practice playing quick (or aggressively) even in situations that seem unfavorable for them to move, because the moment youre conditioned into not moving, the opponent has even more options for you to deal with.

  • @ppapiurek
    @ppapiurek Před 4 lety +3

    Thanks for the great material. Still I find it annoying that super jump gives so much compared to normal jump. It is very inconvenient to do it all the time, especially when using a joypad. I feel it goes against the general game direction to simplify things. Also why there is a convenient way to do iad in front direction, but not for backdash...

    • @iiisixstringiii8285
      @iiisixstringiii8285 Před 4 lety +1

      About the backdash, I too have been wondering why those of us using controllers now have a much easier way of forward dashing, but Arcsys didn't give us to option to also be able to do back+superdash to do a simplified back dash.. When I tried to do it, I did a normal super dash/chase and I thought maybe it was an oversight that they did it for forward dash, and not back dash. Or maybe they had their reasons.

    • @legoblozz
      @legoblozz Před 4 lety +1

      Really I always found super jump really easy with a joystick

    • @ppapiurek
      @ppapiurek Před 4 lety +1

      @@legoblozz It is not hard, but doing it all the time is tiresome. Every time you want to jump you need to input it.

  • @dinogee
    @dinogee Před 4 lety

    After the world tour Go1 made a video of some of the tech and strategies he practiced for the finals, and one of them was using the dash macro to perform an instant high-jump with dash install (without dashing). He was planning on using it against zoning, and he specifically mentioned how when Dekillsage saw the tech in tournament the second time he responded with a 2H and the third time with a jump L. He was very impressed with how quickly you adapted.

    • @Polopollo75
      @Polopollo75 Před 4 lety

      Where is the video?

    • @dinopai9722
      @dinopai9722 Před 4 lety

      czcams.com/video/HAsCWpJ_alYA/video.htmlround the 9:00 mark I believe. There is a helpful comment that explains the techs shown in the video.

  • @Fgarfio01
    @Fgarfio01 Před 3 lety

    The shmoovement is my favorite part of this game

  • @kingxkoutei
    @kingxkoutei Před 4 lety

    We’re in quarantine we all have the time to practice dashing

  • @ReallyPhilly215
    @ReallyPhilly215 Před 4 lety +7

    Imo movement should be taught first in this game if you cant iad at will instantly your toast

  • @mnyamanite3147
    @mnyamanite3147 Před 4 lety

    Thanks bro

  • @ln8496
    @ln8496 Před 4 lety

    In mvc2 i think only storm can slow fall and only spiral can fast fall. Gotta admit it's kinda nice as universal movement

  • @kaiserbach1231
    @kaiserbach1231 Před 4 lety

    OMG. This is amazing. Keep upload videos. This is very useful

  • @idoshanintendo
    @idoshanintendo Před 4 lety

    I didn't know that Fast fall and Slow fall existed in the game untill now.

  • @CarnageRulez469
    @CarnageRulez469 Před 4 lety

    Great video Sage.
    I dunno if I could speak for anyone else, but could you make a video(s) discussing what tricks you should use to safely call out assists in Neutral, or other ways you can use your assists?

  • @rodimusprime8616
    @rodimusprime8616 Před 4 lety

    Revision of these tips is always helpful for better ground and air options lol
    But 5am is interesting timing still for a new lesson

  • @benv-g461
    @benv-g461 Před 4 lety

    What great advice. Thank you! Subbed

  • @luigiaurilio4786
    @luigiaurilio4786 Před 4 lety

    Thank you so much

  • @ZeekTheChosen
    @ZeekTheChosen Před 3 lety

    Love you

  • @SoloLyn
    @SoloLyn Před 4 lety

    I really love your thumbnails!

  • @bigboi9091
    @bigboi9091 Před 4 lety

    And now i will win the world championship

  • @jdrogers707
    @jdrogers707 Před 4 lety +1

    Love the video man... how do you you get better on block. I work on combos in the lab but my defense is trash so it makes my offensive ability irrelevant. Help me out pleeease!

  • @DarnellU
    @DarnellU Před 4 lety

    You helped me tremendously thank you

  • @jinhype9475
    @jinhype9475 Před 4 lety

    Didn’t even know that about super jump.

  • @hisradiancelordnasty
    @hisradiancelordnasty Před 2 lety

    Subscribed ! Any n00bs like me don’t worry. once you learn some movement and apply it to any stable combos you have, you’ll see how the same guys who were seemingly teching your weak shit all over the place and cancelling your life bar in one combo actually do not know what to do at all when things don’t go according to their plans. especially heavy assist users. plan ahead for countering their setups or maybe baiting one or two out . BLOCK AND BE ABLE TO HANDLE BLOCKSTRINGS

  • @kashaunmorris2179
    @kashaunmorris2179 Před 4 lety +1

    Tf. I been playing this game for a year and had no idea you can float..

  • @danielyoungblood3931
    @danielyoungblood3931 Před 4 lety

    I always thought fast falling was a thing in this game. I just wasn't sure if it was a thing, or it was just me thinking of Smash.

  • @BigCocoEnergy
    @BigCocoEnergy Před 4 lety

    Whats up guys! It’s LK, here with another video😌

  • @Ness315
    @Ness315 Před 3 lety

    struggling to combine dash w/ super jump, double forward, then down then back up takes me too long

    • @Ness315
      @Ness315 Před 3 lety

      nvm i think i just realized i shouldn't let go of fwd (6)

  • @jmanwalsh32
    @jmanwalsh32 Před 4 lety

    Good guide to teach basics keep it up

  • @MrGameboyjr
    @MrGameboyjr Před 4 lety

    I've been stuck at ssg because of how bad I am at this stuff so thanks

  • @TempestDacine
    @TempestDacine Před 4 lety

    Idk why the game doesn't explain all of these options smh. Thanks for sharing

  • @AnthonyTheManiac
    @AnthonyTheManiac Před 4 lety

    Keep up the tutorials! Super helpful

  • @maxr3140
    @maxr3140 Před 4 lety +4

    I'd love to see a "Counter" video to this. How do I stop or punish someone who moves like that?

    • @moey193
      @moey193 Před 4 lety +2

      You have to make them block an attack which puts them into blockstun and brings them to the ground, but you won't have the frame advantage if you try this high off the ground, in that case you just have to position yourself well. Remember they always have to land

    • @arnoldmendoza3907
      @arnoldmendoza3907 Před 4 lety

      *gt Goku lol

  • @paz8723
    @paz8723 Před 4 lety

    MOVE YO BODY

  • @kaasdekaas7620
    @kaasdekaas7620 Před 4 lety

    Based

  • @Polopollo75
    @Polopollo75 Před 4 lety

    Ok this is a first piece of the movement puzzle for me. When I try that online, they ki blast me while I input 66 to start my dash jumping. The total input takes a long time for me. Other pieces of the puzzle are what to do when I super jump to fall on the opponent and how to counter someone who sj. I guess I could use an assist if I sj, but what if I only have 1 character left? And can I just SD at someone super jumping? They have to hold a direction, so I guess they are a bit more vulnerable, no?

    • @Polopollo75
      @Polopollo75 Před 4 lety

      I posted in some new challenger discord for help with my movement, but it seems that there isn't a good answer yet:
      Ok, I reached my ceiling. I need help.
      I need guidance on how to approach an enemy, and how to jump medium or jL or whatever. I do not understand how it works. I need a way to practice in training mode too. I am literally clueless and it starts to frustrate me to keep hearing "You will learn that by playing more".
      Here is an example of a game (I am Broly/Gogeta/Yamcha, yes I drop combos, but this is unimportant to me, I want to improve on how to approach the enemy and start hitting on them while they block. I feel I never have any opportinity to do any mixup, all my hit feels...random right now).
      Here is a game where I think the opponent tried to teach me something at the end czcams.com/video/SgUK5SeWTwg/video.html&vq=hd1080
      Here is another set against this player czcams.com/video/4gcsN43BQgA/video.html
      Here is a 3rd one. This one I won, but you can see how random my openings are. Nothing is "clean" I am a mess. czcams.com/video/N9yEovWsmR0/video.html

  • @Polopollo75
    @Polopollo75 Před 3 lety

    I feel terrible. I've reach SSrose without using super jump ever. I watched your video and more about movement and sj, and now I am back to losing to living legend. I'm in a self doubt crisis about movement now. I was very passive and mostly focused on blocking my opponent. Now I feel I take more risk by trying to jump on them. Hmmm My head is in shambles lol

    • @dekillsage
      @dekillsage  Před 3 lety

      Implementing new techniques requires you to accept losing while figuring out how to use it. Ultimately you have to determine how much you value being able to do the new thing, or if you even need it.

    • @Polopollo75
      @Polopollo75 Před 3 lety

      @@dekillsage Thanks. I actually love losing a lot, this game is a blast to play and watch! I am unsure yet about aerial options because it doesn't seem that I can punish if I sj like 27 and the opponent 669 jL and whiff for instance. Outside of super dash which I use very little as it doesn't always give me an advantage as I have to use a bar to vanish and it gimps my bar generation.
      Or the 6649 is good to escape in your example, but outside of that I am unsure how to use it yet. Maybe to call an assist right before crossing them up, but I would have to land pretty fast to confirm. Going from grounded (2D) to aerial (3D with sj) is very fun to explore, and hard to do in training mode. I toy with it in casual mode right now to see what it allows to do! thx!

    • @Polopollo75
      @Polopollo75 Před 3 lety

      You game versus LK here czcams.com/video/vl07oXSlSeM/video.html you decide to sj that close to him with your Bgoku, double jump, and you land with a jM. That is maybe nothing in your eye, but first you decided to jump towards him, then you dj, which limits your ability to move after, and then you decided to jM. So much happening in my eyes! I use jumping to get away, rarely to attack outside of IAD. But here it is a lot more subtle. I feel gotenks could have pressed a button earlier some and maybe punish you. Or SD at one point maybe?

  • @neutralsteak
    @neutralsteak Před 4 lety

    NANI?!

  • @19Cobre
    @19Cobre Před 4 lety

    Great!
    Sage which characters do you recommend to play neutral and attack at distance? Thanks for the video!

    • @11orbs
      @11orbs Před 4 lety

      Frieza, Janemba, ZBroly

  • @Mrsmiley346
    @Mrsmiley346 Před 4 lety

    What do you think of Majin But this season? He's getting more recognition lately

  • @rejectsociety3525
    @rejectsociety3525 Před 4 lety

    I was just watchin a vid on nuetral

  • @rellturn5650
    @rellturn5650 Před 4 lety

    Lol I get so mad chasing people I know cant block me. But if you wanna win that's the only way.

  • @artachi2420
    @artachi2420 Před 4 lety

    How about the Go1 instant superdash? Thank for the vid🙏 learned alot

    • @dekillsage
      @dekillsage  Před 4 lety +2

      There is no such thing.
      You're thinking of something else 😅

    • @artachi2420
      @artachi2420 Před 4 lety

      @@dekillsage ooh I meant the instant air superjump not superdash😅

  • @SPADEZ-
    @SPADEZ- Před 3 lety

    What’s the better the analogue or the dpad on PS4

  • @clickbaitpolice9792
    @clickbaitpolice9792 Před 4 lety

    As much as they game frustrates me, I like how something fundamental (movement) isnt unnecessarily hard like in Tekken. You literally need to practice hours a day on that

  • @PrizmoTheMonarch
    @PrizmoTheMonarch Před 4 lety

    Please make an android 21 video and team comp for her

  • @magnetic_LEMAA
    @magnetic_LEMAA Před 4 lety

    How do you feel about using the Dash macro from IADs and Dash jumping

    • @dekillsage
      @dekillsage  Před 4 lety +1

      I don't have any particular feelings about it

    • @magnetic_LEMAA
      @magnetic_LEMAA Před 4 lety

      @@dekillsage Do you feel like it's helpful or hurtful to like lean on in terms of a person's overall execution?

    • @dekillsage
      @dekillsage  Před 4 lety +1

      Whatever gets the job done
      Don't really think about the methods like that

    • @magnetic_LEMAA
      @magnetic_LEMAA Před 4 lety

      @@dekillsage Gotcha, thank you for your response!

  • @kailowrld
    @kailowrld Před 4 lety

    How do u do empty lows

  • @BrainstormHaZe_
    @BrainstormHaZe_ Před 4 lety

    Opinions on Beerus

  • @hcaelBBleach
    @hcaelBBleach Před 4 lety

    So how do you approach someone who keeps floating?

  • @ERIC18923
    @ERIC18923 Před 4 lety

    How do you actually execute a super jump

  • @yamidark5042
    @yamidark5042 Před 4 lety

    How do you instant air dash backwards

  • @yallajalla2068
    @yallajalla2068 Před 4 lety

    Thought this seemed easy so I tried it but it was online so they just mash superdash

  • @zigguratdafoo
    @zigguratdafoo Před 4 lety

    How do you do the Go1 jump?

  • @roliz
    @roliz Před 4 lety

    Waat? Since when does the game teach you this stuff xd

  • @itchiva
    @itchiva Před 4 lety

    epic gamer moment

  • @davidzrescalante503
    @davidzrescalante503 Před 4 lety

    Lol uuuhhhh.... People don't already do this? Use a metronome at 104bpm. Use your M on cross up. H on same side. Don't be scared.

  • @doorhandlesarecircle6450

    Lol

  • @XxLethel
    @XxLethel Před 4 lety

    Does anybody know how to IAD without using R2?

    • @isshintheguy4172
      @isshintheguy4172 Před 4 lety

      you do a 99 manuver which is just quickly pressing up/right on dpad or on the joystick

    • @XxSircampsalotXx
      @XxSircampsalotXx Před 4 lety

      Yeah just press up right then right again

  • @Supernir
    @Supernir Před 4 lety

    What does ID mean?

    • @PunkPantha
      @PunkPantha Před 4 lety +4

      Probably said IAD or short for instant air dash like 0:39

  • @autisticdarktaco4358
    @autisticdarktaco4358 Před 4 lety

    Go to sleep

  • @XDmajorxX
    @XDmajorxX Před 4 lety

    YOU LOST TO GO1 NERD

  • @TaigaGalette
    @TaigaGalette Před 4 lety

    i expected something funny how dare you click bait

  • @BananaMate
    @BananaMate Před 4 lety

    oh boy, here comes the *FLOAT ARMY*