The Horrifying Case of Tiahleigh Palmer
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- čas přidán 3. 06. 2021
- Tiahleigh Palmer lived with the Thorburn family, a foster family, near Brisbane. However, when Tiahleigh disappeared from school one day, the search began. She would be found, but it wouldn't be good and the investigation looked everywhere and found nothing, until an anonymous tip flipped the case on its head.
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It is beyond disgusting to me that during the interviews they all say that 'Tia had sex with Trent', instead of 'Trent raped Tia' like it's all her fault that this happened. She didn't deserve any of this
That’s exactly what I was thinking! And then when he said he “couldn’t look at either of them” , I was like huuuuuh?? There’s such a disconnect it’s disgusting.
We don't have statutory rape laws as strong as America. He was charged with incest and not sexual assault of a minor.
@@annaohare8263 You have rape laws though and this was rape for sure. I guess they couldn't prove it though, this whole story is sickening, I've heard of it before I think I blocked a lot of it out of my head. I hate hearing about things like this done to helpless kids.
@@Nikki_the_G Yeah I'm guessing that they couldn't prove it or the proof wasn't strong enough because we actually are pretty strict regarding statutory rape laws in Australia, so they had to settle charging him with incest instead. It makes me sick that he is out free walking the streets now
I noticed that too. It’s deeply upsetting to see how they’ve justified his actions in their minds.
I think what frustrates me most about this story is every single one of them saying "he had sex with". No. That was not sex. He raped that poor girl. So infuriating
Yeah, grinds my gears. And also this "SHE had sex with him" as if it was her initiative, as if she wanted the rape. All BS. :(
EXACTLY. I’m so glad Mike makes a point in these stories to stress when they call it “sex” it’s actually rape.
Agreed! There is justice for them in the next life. They will not escape
@@elainep8873 you are delicious
Seriously had me screaming....it's not sex, not incest, it's RAPE!!!
Fostered at age 7, murdered at 12.
Human kind failed deeply with Tia.
So sad! My heart cried out loud for her. What has she done to deserve a life like this? This family is so evil.
Absolutely 💯 💯 💯 💯 yeah
You forgot:
Raped at 12
We certainly did...so deeply saddened by Tia's story, god love her..An evil family should have all been lifed off..
As with many others
Knew the mother was in on it as soon as she told the police she said "How could you let that happen?" to Trent, instead of "How could you do that?" Passive language instead of acknowledging his fault.
How can the she blame others, she should have kept that child with her no matter how much she have to struggle.. (that's just me)
_Trent got beat up in prison_
*Everyone liked that.*
But...but... =(
Not enough...
not the dead girl
Recently a facebook post has gone around telling girls to be aware of his Tinder account, but disgustingly a lot of women don’t care about what he did.
I'm sorry but I would beat the hell out of him too, being 18 looking like Justin Bieber tried out for bts and failed. 😂
“Family meeting: we’re going to kill the foster child.” They’re all responsible.
exactly. that's ridiculous how some here fail to realize this simple fact
Im absolutely not defending anybody. But he murdered her before they had the meeting.
Yup. 10 seconds watching the mother's reaction tells you all you need to know
That’s the most astonishing thing about the whole case. The whole family of psychopaths just agreed that murdering a child who was already horrifically abused was the strategy. I hate them for their cruelty, I hate them for their indifference, and I hate them for their weakness.
@@justintatman2244
Maybe, but they are still in on it.
I keep Tia's picture on my planning board. Her story keeps me going when I am discouraged in my journey to buy a larger house and become a foster mom. No matter her troubles or trauma, Tia deserved a safe home. We as adults have failed, and everyday children like Tia pay the price.
🙏 I hope you are able to help many children. Best wishes ♥️
Yes
That's a noble thing to do, and you will be blessed with a big housem & foster children that will be blessed to have you ♥
This is beautiful but so sad it's needed. Thank you for your wonderful dream. My little brother was abused in the foster system before we got him...among other things he was left in his car seat so long the back of his head was flat. He has trauma that resonates to this day. The world needs more people like you. Thank you and I'm sending you love, prayers and wishes that your dream becomes a reality.
I hope you get what’s needed to foster children. They need someone like you, more people like you.
The Mother committed conspiracy pure and simple. Where’s THAT justice!
She did a year and a half? Do people not understand how these things work??
@@fuckCZcamsBringBackDislikes we heard that. Year and a half isn’t enough
She probably saved herself from that by not being present in the house when the murder took place. If she'd been there I think she would have picked up a conspiracy charge, if not be a codefendant to the murder charge. Australian law is relatively similar to US in regard to those offences, even if the court proceedings have some differences.
“Tia demanded sex or else she’d kill our dog” Absolutely horrible liar.
That's why he got 4 years. He's acting like a juvenile.
@@Scorch428 Please that's an obvious lie
I skipped that part of the video, and now I am glad I did.
@@Scorch428 you’re sick
Jaba the Hutt here has bars around his property like it is a jail, so . . .
I hate stories about kids where every adult failed them miserably and in turn , never really stood a chance at a decent life. Everybody deserves a damn chance!
😞..💖
Poor babies never get a chance...they really do deserve a chance..
@Andy White the "system" freaking sucks
Well said😪
@@starlightsparkles4697 yeah that’s why it’s important to vote!! It’s the judges who fail these children and not the child protective workers, Those workers are way underpaid and overworked trust me I know first hand. Sad the rich conservative higher ups makes all the decisions. They rather spend millions on housing children in Random hotels with other bad kids having sex and all kinds of nonsense while the workers are getting punched and kicked and spit on by these kids and made into glorified baby sitters just because the state refuses to find them proper placement/homes. It’s very sad. Please vote for better judges and state representatives.
@13:30 That unnatural mother, telling about when her son confessed a “sexual encounter “ with Tiah. “Oh mate how could you *let* something *like that* happen?”
I’m an Aussie, live quite close to all the named sites, but I’ve never heard that particular little gem before.
I don’t think there’s many people who hear of sending a twelve year old girl into a foster situation with two teenage males and don’t think it’s a bad idea. If it’s been a long term foster and they’ve grown up as brother and sister, that’s one thing. But at the ages of all the children, when the foster care started it shouldn’t have happened.
What a nightmare. A vulnerable mum trying to do the right thing, and a middle class family of monsters in essence grinds up and devours her child like the junk food they peddled. I am horrified and so sorry for this poor young girl.
All because of money
She did nothing when she was told by her daughter she was being sexually abused.
worst
family
ever
How can this woman talk about the rape and murder of a child like she's talking about shopping. Evil.
Or like he just made a mistake, and what do you do with mistakes? Erase them! Shocking in its selfishness.
Maybe it was because she treated it like shopping when picking a foster kid. They were shopping for a victim. Sick
@Salty Syren A lot of them aren't even damaged. They are simply just incapable of feeling any emotion except 2. Happiness they are getting what they want or anger that they aren't.
That foster 'mother' got off lightly. She knew but did not protect the child from evil. What a horrible family.
True dat!!! Gets me sooo mad 😡🤬🤬 poor lil girl... She have done nothing wrong.. She was taken in a very cruel way... 😪
The fact that were more than 300 sex offenders only in one locality is already appaling enough
Logan is big
Every city in the world has those kinds of numbers and just a small percentage are ever caught. I do not let my kids out of my sight.
Not surprising since between 1788 and 1868, about 162,000 convicts were transported from Britain and Ireland to various penal colonies in Australia and almost 20% of modern Australians, in addition to 2 million Britons, are descended from transported convicts.
Oh and that many convicts were also sent to the US from Britain as well. If you look up the history, you will see that around 52,000 were sent to America and they settled mostly in the US. You have a look at our crime rate and the deaths related to crime, you will see our stats is so much lower. We don't have drive by shootings or shootings in nearly every area, ha we don't have a high stabbing rate either. Its also rare for us to get any mass shootings. Our last mass shooting occurred back in 1996. We have had a few horrible incidents since then but nothing on a massive acale such as what they get in the US. Our kids are safe in school cause their is limited risk of a kid coming in and shooting each other
My thought exactly
Her mom failed her, her biological dad failed her, the system failed her, these foster monsters failed and destroyed her by taking advantage of her vulnerable state. She had nobody to turn to and these monsters knew it. Just because it’s possible to take advantage of someone in a vulnerable situation, doesn’t mean you should. These foster monsters should’ve all been given life in prison or the death penalty. I cringed when I heard the sentencing for the mother and sons. Poor Tia never had a chance!!!😔😔😔
Both Tia and her mother were strikingly beautiful (obviously that doesn’t matter - the story is just entirely heartbreaking) - what that disgusting monster did to Tia makes me so furious. She was thrown to the wolves, and that sociopath acted like he was heartbroken. That girl deserved a chance in life and that “good boy” stole her life.
The irony over 600 people at her funeral...but no one to turned to when she needed it help ...society failed her , heartbreaking
Exactly. The definition of "care" in many families seems to be having their kids name or face printed on stupid T-shirts at their funeral, rather than putting the child's needs FIRST, from birth - and raising them properly. It's too late to show "love" once the child is gone.
well first of all, her Mom failed her. Don't have kids if you're not capable of taking care of them
@@michaela9967 sometimes people don't know this till it's too late :(
@@michaela9967 you can say that but sometimes you think you can. You think you have the right capabilities and support systems and then realize after the baby is born you can't, and that parenthood is way harder than anyone tells you it is.
Mum thought she was doing the right thing giving her up because she couldn't take care of her. Unfortunately the people who were supposed to take care that baby were demons in the flesh.
Foster "care" can be a child's worst nightmare.
Further to this tragic story, the father was recently convicted of the sexual abuse of a number of children in the care of his wife’s home daycare centre. In my opinion the wife has a lot to answer for. These stories absolutely break my heart 💔💔💔
At best she turned a bind eye, at worst she was supplying him the kids, either way makes her very complicit
Just appalling and boy was her mum on the money about not living with 2 teenage lads!
I wouldn’t be surprised if he sexually abused his own children as well. Sick, evil man.
Yes he mentions that briefly in this video.
@@lilyt18 Or the victim, Tia. If Trent, a grown adult man, had “sex” (it’s rape, even if Tia agreed to it) with Tia I’m sure Rick could’ve done stuff too. The entire family is disgusting. They all murdered her by failing to do the right thing and Trent being charged for what he did. Instead Rick decides to “take care of it” and killed an innocent child that they were supposed to protect.
I lived 15 minutes away from where they lived and it’s always hit so close to home, Tia didn’t deserve any of this and at the beginning of this I was already calling the family POS because well, they are! Trent should’ve gotten more time, and when the report came out that he was beaten up in jail, well that made me smile he deserves it and more. I hope Rick is getting the same treatment. That family can burn in hell.
RIP Tia you beautiful soul, I wish you never had to go through this, you would have still been alive today ❤️❤️
Such a Heart breaking story! 😢 The social services are partly to blame for that. It wasn't a good idea to put a young girl of that age in a home with two teenage boys not knowing anything about them or the family. That was a no no. Poor little girl 😢 So So Sad 😢🤧
Can’t BELIEVE that vile excuse for a human fucking being carried that precious baby’s casket after robbing her of her life! There’s a special place in Hell for monsters like him. This case is absolutely heartbreaking. Everyone failed her and she never really had a a chance. RIP Tiahleigh🕊
Yeah. 😔
That enraged me!
They say our world is becoming overpopulated. Those committing murder and sex crimes against children should be the first to give up their space and air. I don’t want to share with this bastard.
@@treasurehunter3193 absolutely!!!
@@ArbitraryFilmings agreed..... this one hurt my soul. I feel achey and sad..... 😥
I'm not a big fan of people in general, but people who hurt kids and/or animals... They are a special kind of garbage.
Cheers mate. There are some of us nice folks out there. However, I can be cruel, but I want to be kind at the end of the day. Continue to try
I am with you on all accounts!
There's a special place for them in hell waiting for them!
...AND the elderly, AND special needs😢
I have zero mercy for those who prey on our most vulnerable.
This was heart wrenching. What a horrible, tragic life this little angel lived.
Sorry but I think dad Rick may well have been abusing Tia himself giving his own history - also, his own younger son said his father would murder him if he tried to protect Tia! Josh knew his father was a psychopath.
The person at child protection services who ignored the reported abuse had a duty of care to get Tia out of that situation. They should have stood trial also.
Precisely !! But why is it that every time something like this happens, and Dear God it happens far too often, the people responsible for looking out for these children never seem to be punished ?
Yes absolutely all on trial 😢😢😫😇🌺☮️rip 😇 kind angel
It The judges that have the final word not the workers. Some y’all need to do more research before you make yourself sound stupid on social media. All those workers are way overworked and underpaid. Trust me I know first hand. Meanwhile the states conservatives are at home in the air conditioned making 100,000 a year and the workers who are getting kicked, pinched and spit on by these kids are not even making half that and have to work their asses off for a small salary and put in 60 hours a week to be glorified babysitter because the state don’t want to find proper placement/homes for them. Some y’all have no clue what really goes on.
@@Jordanfiend361 what are you talking about...foster carers are paid over 450 a week for each child and for kids with special needs much more...social services deliberately ignore abuse in foster placements as they don’t want to admit they take kids from loving homes and put them with abusers. The system is broken and diseased from the core.
@@Jordanfiend361 Overworked and underpaid ? So is everyone !!
If you're paid to protect a child, PROTECT THEM !! Don't blame it on the judges, in MY personal experience they almost never go against the recommendations of the case worker. Maybe you should do more research before you spout off about others looking stupid.
My dad would LITERALLY, in the most legit sense of the word, kill me if I did anything CLOSE to this and then go to jail for it. This is disgusting. That's not saving your child, it's enabling it. Legit disgusting.
This is such a sad story. That poor little girl.
Same dude and I live in a 3rd world country where our culture is called "Backward"
This is close to me and exposes the how society is all about apearance's
If you really beleive it had anything to do with 'saving' his son, you really have no insight into the sort of character Rick Thorburn is.
@New Guy. Weren't you listening?
Of course, considering the father also molested a bunch of smaller kids from his wife's in-home daycare... it's not even a matter of protecting his child. It's just a monster finding excuses to destroy anything that threatens him.
I really feel for the bio mother in this case. Was she a good mum? No, clearly not. But she knew that, she loved her daughter and knew that she wasn't able to give Tiah the life she deserved. She trusted the care system to keep her safe and find her a loving home. But instead Tiah was handed over to monsters.
I admire the mothers admittance that she was incapable of looking after her child, as so many children have to suffer under the care of unfit parents. But the care system is broken. There are too many examples of tragic cases. Tiah, bless her. She deserved so much better from life.
I’m sick and tired of women like you. Her mom literally chose Dick over her own daughter. You feel sorry for her? Great. Just continue To give “mothers” like this a free ride and slap on the wrist so that the system can keep cleaning up their messes and more kids can be murdered because god forbid these worthless whores use sex toys instead of needing Dick over their own kids. Right. It’s the “system” that failed Tia.
I don't feel bad for her because she completely failed her daughter.
@@Joelswinger34 are you serious? She failed her by trying to give her a better life? Cindy did not and could not have known she would be MURDERED. You are disgusting. Grow up.
The mom caused this situation. She should get life in prison because she is the one that put little Tiah in this situation. Disgusting how anyone can feel sorry for th person who caused their child to be raped and murdered.
@@Joelswinger34 are you that arrogant?
That poor girl went from one nightmarish world straight into one much even worse . What an evil family through and through.
That poor girl betrayed by absolutely everyone. Even by life itself.
He had to do it...to protect his family's reputation!
@@Scorch428 Troll
@@StamfordBridge Woulsn't say a troll probably sarcasm
I don't know why, but stories about young girls like this absolutely destroy me. This poor girl...
@@generalgrievous262 Hope so. Still doesn’t quite work as a response here.
That one boy making the claim in his message that she threatened to kill his dog if he didnt sleep with her is disgusting. Lying about the situation and shaming her in death to make himself appear more innocent. Real p.o.s.
He was giving such bullshit. I'm glad the person he sent it to gave the info to the police. Thank God one person didn't buy this bullshit.
@@Ant509y yeah but where was their call to crime stoppers before the reward was offered? I wonder if they claimed it?
And to think that POS only got 4 years and is off continuing his life. Disgusting!
Ruthless bastard!
How do we know he lied? I could be wrong but I believe he sent those messages before she died, so that's not "shaming her in death", either.
Obviously she didn't deserve death, but that doesn't make him a liar.
I remember this happening, I live just around the corner from Marsden High school where Tia went to school. The place they found her body me and my family were fishing/visiting just weeks before. This death put a hold on the whole of Logan, we were all searching and when everyone found out she'd died the whole of Marsden High held a day in her honour. Such a sad way for a beautiful young girl to go. This left a mark on our whole city and we'll all always remember this girl.
WHY do people like this have kids?!!! What can they POSSIBLY teach them?!! Poor Tia.....
This is too sad. Everyone failed that kid.
THE mother especially
@@piva1358 not her biological mother? The foster mother, yes
@@binnes117 her biological mom chose to do drugs, party and dump her responsibilities for the child she chose to bring into the world of on the system. She ABSOLUTELY failed her daughter. Are you kidding me???
Literally everyone. Sooo sad.
@@binnes117 the biological mom should have been responsible enough to take child out of the family after hearing about the abuse.
mike: they had 2 teen sons
me: aww fucking hell here we go...
Yup, the moment he mentioned the sons I knew where this was headed
Yup and me 😒
I'm a retired social worker in the U.S. and I can't remember any cases where a teen girl was placed in a home with teen boys. It is too risky, and defies common sense. What were those social workers thinking?!! They also are accountable.
@@margaretcassidy3280 Exactly! I was going to foster my son’s half sister, but bc of the age difference (about 16 years) they don’t want to do that if at all possible. Pennsylvania isn’t perfect, but I guess it’s better to be on the safe side!
yes because every male person rapes his foster siblings....or what is the thought process? really....
In what world was it okay to send a 12 year old girl to a home with 2 teenage boys?? As soon as I saw the family pic, it was INSTANT RED FLAG. Should have never happened, it's sickening and entirely preventable.
I've said it before and I'll say it again "eyewitnesses" cannot be trusted at all. No one should ever go to jail based only on an eyewitness as people make stuff or create false memories all the time. We think our memories are like recording devices but in reality, every time we think about an event we remember it differently, as we remember remembering it and not the original memory.
They send people to jail after picking someone out from photographs based on a stranger they saw for moments during a high-stress crime. Now, these kids at school knew this girl and say they saw her when she was not there. They were convinced they saw her that day. That is how unreliable our memories are as they could just as easily remember seeing someone they know at a crime scene when they were not there. So imagine how much worse it gets when they are trying to remember someone they don't know.
You are so right. Compare with science where eyewitness is the lowest form of evidence.
I have extremly good memory (99,75 %-ile) when I actively memorise. Still, when it comes to typical non spectacular eyewitness situations, I remember them as bad as everybody else.
The fact that Trent confessed to doing that to the poor girl and yet wasn’t charged nor did he face any extended time in jail shows that this is an international problem of under-punishing such heinous crimes against kids.
Yes! And so many times foster children are treated as disposable.. it’s bullshit.. poor kid didn’t choose her situation.
And that crime lead to her death. it was heinous enough to kill her yet he got away with everything.
He did get charged with perjury, interfering with the course of justice and incest. He got four years, of which he probably served a minute amount. And while his ass did get beaten whilst in jail, I think he should've been charged with her death as well, murder three (it is a charge), and should've served a lot more time (which would've meant a lot more ass whoopings.) RIP Tia, I'm so,so sorry everyone failed you.
Abortion for the win.
The western “justice” system is committed to white privilege and supremacy, and allowing white men to do whatever they want and to whomever with simply a slap on the wrist
The fact they said she ran away often is a huge red flag. Disgusting this poor child was put with these monsters
Your right the dad was a terrible person. Prob beat his wife and maybe her. No one defending him. My dad used to beat me with a belt till I was bleeding and broke my nose a few times. But as a 8 year old child I couldn't stop him if he hit my mother. He never did just making a point a child is scared of his father.
Not necessarily. It’s not unusual for foster children to run away but it really depends on diagnosis, history etc. it’s not just a sign of abuse.
@@roninkraut6873 My Mother was raised in foster homes along with her 6 siblings I know it can be bad
Might sound wrong but I would want too foster A girl cause listening to what my mom and her sisters went through. Just rather a girl shouldn't have to go through that.
@@drxcyclopessdrx3920
For sure. Foster care can really be misunderstood. I don’t know which is worse, being abused/neglected by your bio parents or by foster parents? Both are awful and I wish it never happened
Just when I think I have something to complain about, I hear a tragic story like Tia's. Her mother Cindy's fatalism led her into drugs and homelessness. Sad. I don't know her story. She tried to do right by Tia given her downward spiral. Thought she was protecting Tia from herself. Didn't realize those who were to protect Tia were harmful and deadly. RIP Tia. Blessings.
I feel bad for her mother having to live with the fact that she thought she was giving her daughter a better chance at life by putting her in foster care and having to live with that lose
I don't. She could have pulled herself together and gotten sober, or just not had a child she couldn't care for.
@@Joelswinger34she was a victim of domestic violence. Watch this again and blame the beater.
This story is worse than the dude that put his mom’s head in a pot. And that was crazy as hell. Everybody needs to go to jail imo. Camera man too
Yup! All of’em, including the morons at CPS (with the ironic name “dept of child safety”)! At least that weirdo Joel Micheal was solely responsible, here there are many ppl who got away with no punishment
Agreed!
Their mail man and milk man as well
Right! I didn’t think we could get worse than that one, yet here we are with this story.
Yeah that guy lived in my town not far from my parents house actually. Very strange and horrific case.
The killer acting as pallbearer at his victim's funeral, wearing a purple shirt to blend in with those grieving for the child he murdered. I'd give him twenty years for that alone.
Exactly thier home is full of narcissistic people all should fry
This happened to my friends Dad. His friends shot and killed him over a bottle of pills, was a pallbearer and only got 5 years! Disgraceful!
The worst kind of person is someone who will kill another then go to their funeral and cry like there is a special place in hell for you if you do that
that was the scariest part of this case.
I like your cat picture
Poor kid 😞
She never got a fair chance at life
But she’s in Heaven now 😇 where she will feel loved 🥰
I love how in Australia even mothers call their sons "mate."
They do in the uk too at least some do
We call everyone mate, I call my dog, my son, the guy at the servo, my boss, everyone mate. It's a great default word.
@@007BlondeAussie Aha, so thats where the word 'mating' came from.
I work in the legal industry and even my bosses/professional colleagues call me mate...and I'm a girl!
The Thorburns really need to stop calling it sex. Rape. It was rape.
Who is the genius that placed a 12 year old female foster child in the home of a family of 2 teenage boys??? This is so sad. That baby was trying to get away from them.
Maybe the same collective of genius who gave that mother a license to operate a day care at their house
She was gonna kill thier dog! they had no choice.
The sentences seem so minor in this case. I truly hope the daycare children received the help they needed to have the best chance of a healthy life after the tragedy's the had suffered in that home. As for the boys, growing up in that sort of environment obviously affected their decisions. With that said, they all had a choice and they choose poorly. Life is hard and I don’t pretend to understand the dynamics of this situation. But, I do think listening to stories that Mike puts out will help some who may be currently naïve to trouble and have others rethink their behaviors. Thank you Mike for your narratives.
I’m not even 5 minutes in and my heart is broken. This poor baby girl deserved better.
“We have to protect Trent.” Most disgusting sentence of this video
Yep, that family's priority was to protect the 19 year old rapist, not his 12 year old victim. They all belong in jail for life! It's utterly sickening that vulnerable child was delivered on a plate to her rapists and murderer.
I know. Trent was doing an excellent job of protecting his whining, lying, self serving self.
But I think the dad wanted to also protect himself because if the authorities came to investigate the rape of Tia, they'd also find out about the dad abusing the dayhome kids so it was also out of self preservation too. Pieces of shit, the lot of them.
@@kikidee6033 He was probably worried he was the dad too. Sick family put em all down oxygen thieves. World would not mourn the loss of any 1 of them
I know Tialeighs Paternal Father Andy well, there is more to this case anyway one disgusting point about self preservation with that Trent was he accused Tialeigh of threatening to kill his dog if he did not sleep with her, the lying rat, it just goes to show how narcissistic these people really are he got off basically Scott free couple of months in jail no problem...What sort of imbecile in child safety would put a teenage girl in a house with 2 teenage boys anyway unbelievably stupid...Rip sweet girl Tia...⚘
The fact that he's carrying her coffin, is brewing a different kind of anger ...
RIPP Babygirl 🤍🕊
Well done Mike, you can easily tell you wasn’t comfortable at all doing this story but you did it with honour xxx RIP Tia xx
I can’t imagine the guilt her mother feels. The guilt of putting your child into care would be bad enough, whatever her reasons, but knowing if you’d never done that she’d still be alive would be soul destroying
her mother chose an abusive d*ck over the wellbeing of her own daughter. I hate it that so many singel mothers chose their boyfriend/sexual partner instead of their own child, and then cry crocodile tears. I have zero sympathy for Tialegih's mother.
Um no. Tia’s mom should’ve used birth control instead of birthing 4 kids she would abandon to maintain her sex life with an abusive boyfriend.
One of the more horrifying stories I’ve seen on here. These people literally discussed how they were going to get rid of her, like she was dirty laundry or a bag of trash. Simply horrific
and that poor girl was treated that way her entire, short life. I wonder if she ever had a happy day not having to worry about something
I'm sure if on those rare days she was happy the thought of no1 truly caring was always lingering. That was my case anyways. I was never truly happy I just pretended to be. It's a survival mechanism.
@@DavidSmith-fg5su I'm really sorry you feel like this..So many people suffered as children. It isn't fair or right.
It was a very huge story here in Australia and very sad. I'm surprised they were even allowed to foster care because we have very strict rules and regulations and red tape that it makes it very hard. I spoke to one of the foster care organisations managers and she said I wouldn't be approved because I had some clutter neatly arranged but no space for it to go in a cupboard. My home isn't dirty and it is kept neat and tidy but just that pile would be enough to not be approved, oh and also 1 small window in my house had a white sheet as a curtain at the time because I hadn't found the specific size curtain needed for that window. I would have to fix that LOL
Nope
I am super confused what government agency would put a young girl in foster home with 2 teenage boys and no other girls
What are you suggesting, that all girls with only older brothers are taken into care? I appreciate what your line of reasoning is, but the incidence of older brothers molesting their younger sister(s) is very rare.
What if you had 300 kids to take care of/monitor. This happens a LOT. The idea is that all kids can be placed in a safe environment......The truth is the supply of kids grossly outnumbers safe places to live. It's a supply/demand issue.
This was my question. I was a social worker for foster care and we NEVER would have done that
You act like government actually cares about people lmao
@@donicegreen7340 well if you'd "never" place a girl with a family that has only boys older than the girl that would cut out a significant percentage of potential families.
And what difference would it _actually_ make if there were _only_ older brothers v a family with older brothers and also a sister(s)? Wouldn't the brothers be more likely to target the fostered/ adopted girl anyway, regardless of the age of their blood sister(s)?
Taking it a step further maybe you should only place girls in familes that _only_ have girls? .... And no resident father either? And you'll want to check out the neighbours in case any of them are "creepy" too. And of course you should eliminate any family from consideration if they live witin half a mile of a registered sex offender.
You _can't_ eliminate _all_ the risk, no matter how hard you try, and I sincerely doubt that "older brothers and no sisters" is a risk category that holds up to actual scruitiny.
Poor girl breaks my heart deeply
I used to live in Logan, this case is devastating and made me realise how fucked our docs system is, as someone who grew up in foster care it really broke me hearing about this case. You’re the first channel I’ve seen cover this case, so thank you
The mom knew who did it. She essentially said “people involved are too loyal to the people who did it, money won’t matter” she had a hunch alright
she said she didn't like the idea of being with teenage boys, too bad she didn't think of her children and got rid of the trash instead of her child
Well she herself let down her own daughter. She knew already but didn't do anything coz shes a selfish mom
...do all of you people know this woman personally or do you like to throw around weird accusations on the regular?
Yeah I picked up on that too. Definitely sounded like she knew something.
@@michelle.pearl. No, but you would hope that you want to do better for your child. She couldn't predict that this would happen to her daughter, but I would hope that she would get her life together
The fact they tried to paint her as a troubled child, bc she would run away but she was trying to escape. My heart was heavy watching this bc she didn't deserve this.
If only she could've got to someone to tell them what was going on and them actually do something about it. It's so heartbreaking that her mother gave her up to give her a better life and these pieces of ish did this do her. I hope the father and son gets battered daily.
Yes, this one made me really sad. This poor, beautiful little girl was just handed off to those monsters. How sick and warped is that entire family?!
That is the worst life a person could be dealt in my opinion. Born to parents that don't want you then given to people like this while going through your most important development years as a person. I don't see how anybody could be normal growing up this way that beyond sad and shows how unfair life can be.
yah their version of child protective services is as inept as the United States'....
@@robbybee70 it's honestly a desperate situation especially now in the US with the opioid epidemic. There are so many children going into the system and not enough families to take them. The ones that would be good parents usually don't apply to become foster parents for whatever reasons and unfortunately many that do don't for the best reasons of the children. It's a sad situation most people aren't even aware of they need to make adoption easier for American parents. But because of the difficulties many go overseas to adopt. I have a family member that works as a social worker she has a big heart and that job crushed her so to speak.
This is literally up the road from where I live and I feel like I've learned more from this than what the local News told.
Only just started watching but just seeing Tiahleigh's name gave me chills. This story is horrific 😢
As an Australian I'm utterly ashamed of our 'judicial' system. 4 years for raping a child is an insult and 20 years for killing a child is disgusting.
Omg is that all they got ?
I know. I feel embarrassed when I hear the sentences in Oz when a True Crime channel features an Aussie case.
How Disgusting To Carry Her Casket Right After You Killed Her 😩
Psycho in my opinion
Yep that sticks in my craw too.
I feel bad for Josh bc he honestly seemed terrified to talk bc he thought his dad would kill him too. He was the only good one of the bunch; the rest, including his mother, were monsters. RIP Tia...
Her mom chose to give her up over geting out of a bad relationship? Had she manned up, taken responsibility & cared for her daughter this horrible thing wouldn't have happened.
I’m kind of saddened by the huge number of people who showed up after she was dead than the people who helped her when she was alive. She obviously was running away for a reason and no one took it seriously. I know foster care case workers are over worked and the system is horrible. The fact that everyone in her life who was supposed to protect her ended up leaving her, failing, and hurting her is just so sad.
good point
I think Rick had abused Tiah as well.
When there's cameras running everyone's surrounding the victim with love...SHAMEFUL shit indeed
Kids run away for little reasons all the time. My own sister ran away because she didn't want to have a curfew when she was 14 or so.
Hindsight is 20/20. I can imagine just how many kids in the foster system just don't want to be in the home they're placed in. Having a family forced upon you who may be nothing like what you are used to, who don't connect with you because you're just different. Not bad or a problem child, just different.
The fact that cps needs to exist is a tragedy in itself, and all the good intentions people have can only go so far.
I'm sure there's a caseworker out there whose shoulders carry a lot of guilt over misreading Tia's plight. But the only people who deserve blame are the ones directly responsible.
@@skachor that foster family cared more about their social standing then that poor little girl! I can't imagine how tortured her birth mother must be!! Giving her up to keep her safe rather than giving up the abusive relationship. My mom did kinda the same but I was 17 and it turned out very successful but her choice hurt as you can imagine.
"And Julie ran a daycare out of the house." Uh-oh...
That’s EXACTLY what I said! ‘Uh oh’ indeed 😑😬😓
And Rick was accused of sexual abuse of kids in her care.
So she was an enabler of the 'men's in her family when it came to their despicable behaviour
@@dshe8637 she must get some thrill out of it. It's like a family of psychos poor girl
Never ever leave your kids in an at home daycare! Period.
That really scared the life out of me when I heard that.
so very sad, and heartbreaking,, poor Tiahleigh,, what's really sad is that she probably trusted her foster parents, and they did this to her,, very sick foster family. :'(
Mike, you just crack me up. Probably the only person i know that could make people laugh during such horribleness. Im so glad i stumbled onto your channel. Cheers!
OMG - Rick wanted to protect his cherished son and the family reputation so badly he murdered a 12 year old his son had molested. The poor child. Indeed - a 12 year old girl joining a family with two older teenaged boys sounds like a very risky move.
They learned from dad
And they keep saying sex like it was something she wanted. It wasn’t “sex” it was rape. Disgusting piece of shit.
Not molested, raped 😭
I’m sorry, but there are normal men with normal sons. It shouldn’t be risky. This family was sketchy from the start.
She's talking about the rape and murder of a child like it's just a normal running an errand day, WTF how vile!
"How could you let this happen?" is how she put the question to her son. Rather than "How could you do that?" What a disgusting family. I hope they all bite dust real soon.
Makes you wonder if she knows about the stuff her husband is up to and what she is covering up
Seriously, how is she not in prison too? "Yeah so we discussed how this girl was being raped, my husband told us all to leave, said he took care of it while we were out, her body was found a week later and I just thought I'd wait half a year to mention any of that." In what universe does that not make you an accomplice?
That’s because she’s one of those women who only cares about reputation and is probably afraid of her husband but she is in denial I can’t believe her attitude she’s delusional
Tia's story really broke me. She is always smiling in her pictures, but behind that smile is a world of pain. Being shifted from home to home only to be handed over to a house full of devils... This little girl was never able to feel safe and secure throughout her short life. There are so many people who would have taken this beautiful little girl into their home and given her the life she deserved. The system failed her. It threw her to a bunch of monsters who wanted her for all the wrong reasons. R.I.P Tia.
Idk why the word “ Legger “ makes me giggle every time . Bless your heart Mr . Chapter
It always pisses me off when i see 100’s of people at a funeral for someone that nobody cared about when they were alive, if even a fraction of those people cared about her before she died she probably wouldn’t have.
on point!
EXACTLY. I can't stand all the false empathy these days.
Not necessarily. You can feel genuine sadness for cases like that. Last summer we got an Amber Alert that gone wrong here in Quebec, I was just crying reading the news. ( That said I don't know why people actually shows up at funerals for people they don't know.... To show their support I guess )
What makes you think any of the people who showed up at the funeral knew Tia in life?
When the mum says "oh No how could you let that happen" to her son, she should have said "oh No how could you do that to her “.
She is making it sound like it wasnt the sons action that led to a rape. Wtf evil
because he claimed 12 yo threatened him to " kill his dog Lewis" which only person with no brain cells can believe to.
His mom probably instructed him to type (word for word) & send that text after she found out about the rape. Being a dimwit, she probably fancied herself a genius for having created a "believable" backstory for why Tia & her son "had a sexual encounter"- just in case it was ever questioned...
@L bill ok @L bill No grasp of grammer
@@gidget3467 well, good on her if she did make him do that, because it's the only reason they were caught apparently. Justice... if only their sentences fit their crimes.
@@J_Lynn that's the most important part right here
Have you done a story about Zahra Baker? That is a sad sad story, it happened in Hickory NC, which is where I live but she and her dad was from Australia as well.
Childhood bone cancer,
Deafness from the chemo,
Leg loss from the cancer,
Wood chipper, yea it is a lot to take in.
Nothing healthy here. "Is that the food or him"? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Love yr humor Mike.🥰
Hearing that Trent got beaten up in prison, fills my heart with joy😇
Shame he survived.
Yessssssss
And it annoys me that hypocritical murderers think they are better than sex offenders.
“I told her to stay in her room and put herself to bed”... that poor girl had no one caring for her
Right!??! I'm seriously furious the foster "mom" only got 18 fucking months!!! You get more in the US for selling drugs! She deserves LITERALLY everything bad that happens to her for the rest of her life.
That one really broke my heart. How alone she must have felt. My son is 13, almost 14 and I still at night get his bed ready, often we talk and laugh before he goes to sleep and I always still kiss him on the forehead as I have all his life and I tell him how much I love him, and yeah he is a very typical teenager but I know deep down he appreciates this and wants it also cause also I am his only parent. Every child deserves at least one person in their life that will do anything for them, love them unconditionally no matter what and go to any lengths for them and their safety and welfare and that will always have a time for them also. It is so heartbreaking that Tia didn´t have anybody, she was all alone and placed with 4 monsters and one monster raped her and other monster killed her !!!!
@@IrisFlowerAndRainbow It's so nice to know that some kids have such a loving parent!
@@alexalandy8714 Thank you so much for saying that ❤ Lots of love from Iceland to you ❤🇮🇸
I knew the dad was lying the minute he said he dropped her off. What a piece of work. And his son obviously learnt from daddy. Jesus wept. Just shows a golden sunny family photo can be such an utter lie. That poor, poor kid.
Aww she looked like such a sweetheart. Whoever could do that to a child is disgusting and should not live.
the wife and the two sons should've gotten way harsher sentences, seeing as how they went along with the whole thing from the beginning. when they had their 'family meeting' it had to have been obvious what was going to happen. nobody is that naive
Also, this can’t have been the first time they circled the wagons; maybe not over murder, but this resolution was damned quick.
Wow! Trent messaging a friend that Tiahleigh forced him to have sex with her otherwise she'd "kill his dog Lewis" is the absolute cherry ontop of disgusting. Even the most gullible person in the world wouldn't believe that 🤦🤢🤮
Sadly, it is plausible. I had a friend who had been abused, and her way of acting out was to get sex. I was asked to talk to her about her putting the moves on. Maybe it was a way of taking control.
@Jim Marbaz Maybe you should look up the word "plausible." If you weren't there, you can't know what happened.
@@scallopohare9431 Are you seriously that naïve? I doubt it....
@@scallopohare9431 she’s 12 and he is a 19 year old man !!!!! Don’t be ridiculous
@@scallopohare9431 Was your friend 12 ????
i don’t understand what there is to unlike about any of Mike’s videos. what’s with the 1k dislikes? smh. Mike’s one of my favorite creators on here honestly. Mike, I love all your videos and look forward to the new ones every week!! sometimes while i’m waiting i’ll go back and rewatch old ones lol
I think that people may down vote because of the subject matter.
@@smarttrout5562 that makes sense, i didn’t think of that
What!! She told her Mother about the abuse and did nothing. She needs to be accountable for the abuse. That poor little girl. RIP
The mother should also be in prison, she knew what was going on
Agreed
Yea, she did
100% she did….
lets get her
She got 18 months. A joke.
The other family members deserved more than that joke of a sentence. Disgusting..
I don’t think the brother did - his dad said he’d kill him.
@@mister8765 plus, wasn't he 14?
The lives of them all were destroyed by this event. I don't know why you want harsher sentences for the whole family if the father was the real monster.
@@thenewkhan4781 one brother was 18 and the other was 19
Poor little girl, RIP Tia. At a time in her life when she needed some love and support from this world she got that family, I just do not understand how people can treat children badly,
Im shocked, that poor girl was let down by everyone,starting with her mother,she deserved so so much more.This family makes me sick
“Life without the possibility of parole for twenty years”. That makes no damn sense! The son and mother’s sentences are way too short! Sickening! That poor girl. She endured so much. Truly horrible.
Why do you think the son should have been given a bigger sentence?
@@AlexV6 the justice system here is incredibly weak compared to other countries. I know someone who murdered his girlfriend he was given 7 yrs altogether...
@@leahhuntz6236 " I know someone who murdered his girlfriend he was given 6 yrs altogether..." I guess jury felt she deserved it?
There's a man who only got 56 years for raping and murdering his own daughter in Washington. The wide inconsistencies in every judicial system is sickening.
A single 'life sentence' in Australia is only 25 years 😪
So a child predator father raised a child predator son and the mother enabled them both. The foster mom probably adopted Tialeigh for the sole purpose of exploiting her. The foster mom wasn’t just complicit she was a willing and ready accomplice.
Speculate much?
Just hearing how the mother speaks of the whole ordeal makes me shiver... Like she's talking about a simple outing
@@damac5136 I feel like that's pretty fucking obvious.
@@simonerea6681 Not to intelligent people.
@@damac5136 stop trolling, this is not the place 😒
Of the (to date) 65 other videos of you I've gotten through to date... This one is that special kind of disgusting. It's sad to see that to at least some extent the abuse caused the rest to become complicit, a classic case of Stockholm syndrome. Kudos to the first responders and medical staff that brought him back from a quick escape so that he could properly suffer the consequences.
The police are so talking to the family in the press interviews!
Guy wanted to save the reputation of his kid so he killed someone and got his entire family arrested. Solid logic.
Seems like exactly it
It's suspected the father was also sexually abusing her.
@@amariluna would not surprise me in the least, what a family of monsters.
The photo of Tiahleigh with her mom, where she's smiling up at her with such love, breaks my heart. Rest in peace now, Tia 😢
She obviously adored her mum. Must have been devastating to be given up for adoption
Social Services must be staffed with idiots, placing a 12 year old girl in a house with three grown men non- blood related. Regardless of which of the two initiated the sexual activity, it's not surprising it happened, and the more I think about it and knowing what a train wreck the foster care system is, it almost seems as if the social services agencies make these kinds of ABSOLUTELY STUPID placement decisions ON PURPOSE.
When they said 250k for information, I knew theres something fishy. They don't look that wealthy, which means they must have been sure about who the killer was.
the family should get more time... the fact they became a foster family and run a daycare ??? who are the social workers who approved them
It's called small government , cutting back on staff till the social workers are over loaded with work and can't do their job properly . We have money for war but no money for protecting children , mental health or homelessness .
@@romanbrandle319 well duh, we need to save all our money to give to rich people for home improvements. We can’t be wasting it on the needy.
Unfortunately, there are millions of Tia’s in the world and they are constantly overlooked. 😤🤬 Every country is overdue for decent social workers…
They do it deliberately and often steal kids from loving parents because the parents broke some shitty rules of theirs..then the kids end up with money grubbing scum
And decent funding of social workers!
@@sarakeeet speaking way too much common-sense… the stats are there, people choose to ignore it 🤷🏾♀️
@@sheffieldamanda AGREED! However, “most” people don’t become social workers for the pay. Well my colleagues weren’t lol doesn’t negate the fact that most are underpaid (teachers and Leo’s included) 😒
@@MontanaDior LEOs make much better money than social workers and have a fraction of the training
Poor little girl, she never stood a chance in life. 😢
So nice to know these people fostered kids. Don't think that everyone who does this loves kids. Don't think every teacher, coach, etc. love kids. Sometimes they just want to abuse them. Every one of those people could have stopped this.