Is this the lightweight ebike we've been waiting for?
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- čas přidán 8. 04. 2024
- 2025 Mondraker Dune is a sub 20KG long travel super enduro ebike, with Bosch's new SX motor, providing 55nm torque, 600w peak power, with a internal 400Wh battery.
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what i'm actually waiting for is a lightweight ebike with removable battery, as it adds up a lot of practicality
That and modular batteries of 160Wh each, so one can a) choose how much extra weight to take on the ride and b) travel by plane/ship an e-bike without issues.
There are quite a few with fazua motor. I also think that a non removable battery is a nogo.
Yes, tired of fixed batteries. Range extenders are a bad workaround, I'd rather have 2 small batteries to do more laps on a lighter bike.
Transition Relay is probably the best one with a smaller removable battery.
Trek Fuel EXe is the only one that comes to mind
the focus jam sl has a removable battery
I have a mondraker crafty 2022 and I have got to say mondraker are really ahead of the game with geometry and design
The first Brand that makes a long travel, full powered bike with at least 700-750wh battery at 19-20kg, will take my money...that is what I consider lightweight emtb
Give it a couple of years, and 15k$
@@castortoutnu 15k$ will be the top spec probably, I consider way more down to earth prices, depending the version
Upcoming Cannondale Moterra SL is getting close.
Battery technology is not there yet. Once solid state batteries make it to the mainstream, ebikes will be so much lighter.
I believe that may be a possibility but that is in the far future.
Dear Mondraker,
Congrats for bringing to the market the kind of bike that I would consider buying. Unfortuanately I will not be buying a Dune, nor ANY bike with internal headset routed cabling.
Yours,
The general biking community.
PS The seatpost insertion depth is Shit too!
I had the 17 Dune XR and it was an absolute blast to ride.. I can only imagine how much better this e-powered version is. It looks stunning 😍 Well done #mondraker 👍
I've ridden it on Saturday and it was genuinely the best bike I have ever driven (incl. normal bikes)
I’d like to see you do a review on the canondale moterra sl.
Mondraker is killing it
looks like a duracell battery
lol
Definitely agree about the DoubleDown - I use DD or preferably DH on both my bikes because I'm fed up of tears and pinches ruining my ride
Looks nice, but.... That seat tube looks way too high to get the saddle slammed and headset cable routing.... 😞🥱. Nice vid tho, Rob 👍🏻
Looks sick!
Love your videos Rob. When are we going to see the full review of this bike? (it's one month later) I am considering this and the Cannondale Moterra SL as my next eMTB. Thanks....
This looks actually really good, and sub 20kg with coil is really nice. but just got me Canyon Strive:ON last month so I am on full power for a while xD
Great bike, with a great drive unit, and finally mullet setup, but I'd probably swap out the coil for air based on reducing weight.
That seat tube looks very tall. Seems may not be able to get the seat properly out of the way.
Looking forward to the ride review.
wish you would do a review of the giant trance X advanced elite E +1
Nice intro video Rob! Eagerly awaiting for the full review... 👍
How much does the range extender weight?
thanks :-) Powermore Range Extender weighs around 2KG and gives an additional 250Wh, so that'd give 650Wh total capacity :-)
Can you give warranty times for parts in the future Rob as that would help as near £12 grand for the top spec as you did touch on the rear hanger.
Good review, awesome bike and that SX motor is amazing, shame you cant remove the battery, would be awsome if you could swap out the 400w for another, proper all day bike for those of us who also like a bit of power. Same with the Whyte eLyte, would be awsome if you could replave the battery on that one as well. Someone out there has to do it soon. Either that or I need to win the lottery so I can have two of them for an all dayer at BPW with no uplift
The amount of saddle drop for so much travel is un-acceptable. My older foxy had a max of 150mm drop (medium) vs 200/2010 for current bike. It's a game changer.
Oh dear Lord. Was thinking Norco Fluid VLT for mullet and Bosch SX. Tried an E Lyte, motor system great, bike a bit meh. But this is gorgeous.
When will you revie the cannondele motera sl? :D
@@minerva2958 your smart :D
Tested different Mondraker ebikes and just dont like the rear suspension. Just feels harsh when it should not.
Can we please get a revisit on the diy ebike kits using the CYC Photon?
Lovely looking machine. Im thinking if starting my own yt channel to be able to afford one. 😂
Can't wait for the big battery, mid assist and short travel xc bike for 60km+ races.
I love your bike workshop and your reports. And of course your good english pronunciation because i am german and some guys have very strange accent, esp. aussies. 😊
Hi Rob,
...... Trying to get my head around a question !
How does a 400wh battery with 55nm compare against my 360wh 35nm Levo sl v1 for distance (without the add on battery) ?
Surely my levo sl gets me the same distance (or further), if not a bit slower ?
Love your vids, Rob.
When I don't look, you sound like Louis Theroux!!
👍True, SRAM is to big and to long cage😉
I drive the XTR "chort gage" with 10-45T on all four of my EMTBs, and will always do.
Nice that Mondraker selling frame kit as I am thinking of building a "shimano" bike😁
No easy removable battery is a no-go for me. That display is odd. Otherwise, looks pretty good. Think there are better options out there though.
Other options ..... which are ?
the display is a big no-go :)
Can't wait to try one I have the Crafty XR carbon and tried the Neat but it was a little under powered and not aggressive enough...by the way Duracell...bunny longer harder power.....🤣
👍Now we talking👏👏👏👏.
But, why use SRAM's big lump for gear 🤔.
I run XTR straight through and above all short cage gear and 45-10 cassette on all four of my EMTBs I have built or otherwise rebuilt, precisely for the reason of avoiding breakdowns as much as possible + that they are light stuff😋.
💥Wanted. Mondraker frame kit💥🥰
i wasnt expecting this to be fair
But is it better than the Transition Relay PNW?
If only the battery was removable, like the Neat....it would be the perfect ebike :/
👍Why didn't Bosch make this cadence for peak power selectable, so you could set it to your own spot rpm, that would be really nice😉😂
You can't just set cadence for peak power in software without changing the Torque as Power equals Torque x Cadence - They probably didn't want (or couldn't) let an increase Torque option in order to save battery (that's why this motor is smaller an lighter)
@@avialboim4721 As many thoughts as wishes😉
A wish is not a matter of course that you have to drain the battery😋
Hey Rob, when is the review video coming? :)
If you have ever owned a mondy then you will hope the frame warrenty is good
What ebike is the all rounder ebike in your opinion ?
I've seen review about the SX motor saying it's noisy - can you please reffer to this point Rob
Need the pricing of the other versions too Rob 👍 EDIT - missed the lowest price is £6799 at czcams.com/video/CeULBNkXaHY/video.htmlsi=X2tTI22xl9JmUumR&t=380
Finally!
Please do the new norco fluid vlt
great for a light rider but im 6'3" 260 pretty sure id stress that motor enough to kill it lol
those huge in front of the bar mountained displays are absolutely a negative to the ride experience. good that it can be removed bc if it couldnt id drop this bike from a list of possible choices, yeah that single item is that bad on the UX.
And how the bike rides? 😂…. Would be lovely to get some more info than just the things we could read of the Mondrakers website 😅
Coming soon, I just needed more time to make that video, but it'll be out shortly :-)
@@minerva2958literally every comment you make you’re talking shit… why do you still watch his videos if you disagree with everything and think he’s a shit rider? 🤦🏼♂️😂
Are you ok? Do you need to contact a friend and get a cuddle?
@@minerva2958 How many eBikes have you ridden for comparative purposes?? Who needs an eBike for A-Line ? You could hit it on a BMX
@@minerva2958 He's telling you how an eBike rides compared to the many other eBikes he's ridden. So, he can tell you how it rides. He rides eBikes in country that doesn't do uplift bike parks. He doesn't need to be able to ride A-Line to give you an eBike comparison. Your comment, like all your other comments on this video are full of irrelevant 💩
Please share link to your video of an ebike, with good help in peddling, max speed independent electric 80 miles or more, lots of range, removable battery, dual shock, multi shock
This is a mountain biking channel, not eTouring. You will get that info on channels that cover city commuter type bikes with that type of range
It needs a belt drive and Enveolo trans.
Nice looking bike, the seat post insertion depth looks problematic tho, The Bosch system controller really needs a tiny screen showing the battery percentage, the LEDs are distracting and the Kiox is ugly.
they do have a new display for the handlebar so you can remove the kiox if it really makes you throw up that much
@@chickenclips It's not just the aesthetics, when mounted on the bars it's more prone to damage. Specialized and Sram Powertrain have the right idea, would be nice if Bosch did similar as their motors are on many more bikes.
Wow
I’ve bent 2 t-type cages. Sram sell internal cage replacements. But not external cage replacements , which I keep bending 🤷♂️
The external cages replacements are coming and they’re around £30
This lightweight embt would not look out of place in the technologically advanced metropolis capitol of Panem
oh with a 500wh would be perfect +250wh ang extender... wait an other iteration :)
What I am waiting for is a peddle power bike that's aforedable 😂
SRAM Transmission is NOT a good thing. It is really expense. And ebikes go through cassettes and chains as a hot knife through butter. I went with a cheap Shimano LinkGlide setup. 39 euro cassette, 16 euro chain and 34 euro derailleur. And shifting is as crisp.
I'm waiting for a heavier ebikes. That's what hmthe motors for innit.
Can you help me to open this business here in my country Morocco?
vtec baby
Sorry lads Vtecs kicking in!! braaap
Please how much is this
The video showed 11,000
Just one kidney.
Wait so let me get this straight, It is ment for big mountain riding with steep hills etc, however they made it light by just putting a ridiculously small battery in sure thats saving weight, but now your just stuck with always having to use the range extender. Meanwhile the entire industry is imploding so make the price so high no one would buy it anyway. This channel will never say anything bad about a product they recieve ever.
How come you're watching an ebike channel when you have all the answers already? I've got 2 Mondrakers and would be happy to buy this as well. You don't need the battery for descents. There is more than enough power and range to winch yourself back up the 'push-up' track to hit descent after descent
So what should we do to have a giveway ? share this to 1000 person?
Just can't watch this with that hideous spaceship hanging over the front of the bars!
I can't see the point of a lightweight ebike. If going down the ebike route, go full power, full fat. That's what I've done & my full fat Cube Stereo 140 Hybrid complements my normal Cube Stereo 150.
Fitness and fun. I don't want to sweep over downhill tech without feeling it on a full fat ebike and I don't want the added weight making it harder to ride in my narrow technical trails.
My lightweight ebike weighs 17kg and has 60nm of power which equals lots of fun. It can also be easily ridden with the motor switched off or if I run out of battery.
My lightweight weight ebike perfectly compliments for Trek Roscoe 9 hardtail ;-)
Full ebikes are like a different sport entirely, whereas the riding experience of a light weight eeb better imitates an analog bike.
It would be briliant if after 10000 km the Bosch sprockets and bearings were like new, just like in my middrive motor CYC x1 Stelth. It has 1.5 kw, but i run it at 1 kw. My bike weights 24 kg with a 1380 mAh 52v battery. All with 1/5 of the price. The ebike industry is a scam
What frame do you use?
@@paulaus The worst frame you could convert to an ebike. 2016 YT Jeffsy. I placed a long custom battery under the downtube. At least the engine is perfectly fitted inside the frame
Chinese company Talent New Energy announces that it has new battery cells with a high electric energy value - 720 Wh/kg.
Absolutely atrocious insertion depth on that seat tube.
The kiox display is useless! One crash and it’s snapped
You can turn the mount backwards and the display tucks neatly behind the handle bar ani full protected . I did it on my cube stereo
only 55mn? yeah no
£12 OOO for that? I genuinely hope they go bust.
Cool .... which lightweight 165/180 rig with the highest-end components like this is cheaper ?? Thanks in advance
“New breed”?……..cough…orbea rise…. cough
Isn't the Orbea a 140/150 rig ? That's light trail travel. This 165/180 is a totally different rig for different tracks
@@oliverbourne9599 the Rise can take a 160. I have 160 on mine. I know the travel differs slightly but it seems like a lot of people forget about the rise these days.
Lets put the computer where it can easily get smashed! bosch! Wtf!
no!
Another bike ruined by seatpost insertion depth
12000€ 🤣 Totally nuts
Buy a motorbike. Then you have some serious tech.
Last time I tried to take a motorbike into a Mountain Bike park they called the Police
🙄
what does this cost 17k lmao
LoL .... did you even watch the video
No it is not !!!
I do have a BMC ALPENCHALLENGE CROOS ONE, 2019 year, originally with SHIMANO 6100 motor, total weight 16.5 kgs !!!!!
And does it have 165/170mm travel?
Super-Enduro geometry and travel or ? I've just Googled it and is says "A 700c carbon frame commuter e-bike" So, not exactly downhill is it. Why you even here watching a mountain biking channel. Do you even know what mountain biking is 😂😂
Integral battery, thats a "no" from me
stupid prices, would rather have a decent new motorbike
Prices are mental now. Even motorcycle prices have risen rapidly over the years.
@@wackedoutdude you can still get a decent new jap motorbike for 7k
cool story bro
Top Tip for you . . . . stop watching mountain bike channels then, when you can't afford them 😂
Comical. There are E MOTOCROSS bikes that are cheaper than this. Who or what is this bike for in the first place? SUPER Enduro looks a heck of a lot like DOWNHILL to me . The smaller the battery is the less time you have to use it. Because there is NO break through tech that says anything different. After the mountain bike apocalypse, going down a road of creating sub categories' for E mountain bikes is absurd. Mega Avalanche only happens ONE time a year, and this is probably the only time this bike would possibly be useful.
@@minerva2958 Bike apocalypse is here and most companies are filing bankruptcy proceedings. These bikes were bought on LOANS to a population that defaults on just about everything. There are incredible deals out there, but the entire anti China vibe wont show them.
very nice but catastrophically expensive and therefore only for the well heeled 0.00000000000000000000001% of mtb buyers and then only for show
Secretly hoping this might lead to discounts on the Neat🎉 Probably wishful thinking.
You forgot to mention the shit Dropper insertion and Headset cable routing. Other than that and its ridiculous pricing, this is what I want. Light weight big travel