The next "BIG" thing: Prusa Mini review!
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- čas přidán 6. 08. 2020
- With Prusa's track record, the Mini should be the best 3D printer ever, right? It's cheap, it's simple, but it also comes with a whole bunch of "firsts" for them. So let's find out if it is the new holy grail for low-cost printers or if it's still got room to improve.
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"What are your expectations for Prusa?"
Orange
Some people make the wrong decision and choose for it to be all black....boooooo :)
@@_Piers_ but those people are weak and won't survive the winter.
@@_Piers_ I ordered black , i had to keep it in living room, not kidsroom or garage like you :D
@@_Piers_ matte black everything!
GUMMY BEARS!!!!!!
Tip for hot weather: Drink a glass of water every time Tom knocks over a 3d printed part
This is how you stay well-hydrated
Please don’t! Water can be deadly if you drink more than 10 liter
@@hetismaarten7834 r/woooosh
@@hetismaarten7834 not if you sweat and exercise a lot during a hot day !
You can actually sweat a maxumim of 10-14 liters in one day so in the most extreme case you would need to drink about 15 liters a say hydrated ;)
@@user-bl4oq7fd8d It was a joke dude. Hetismaarten made a joke.
In an era when so much of CZcams 3d printer content is live streams, its nice to see a review that is concise, well written, thoughtful, and interesting. It is content like this that keeps me as a Patreon supporter.
Right, and not reviews made after 2 weeks of using
True
Having just gotten a mk3s after a year of owning a Chinese delta, the sentence that keeps coming to mind about Prusa is "The printers they sell are identical to the ones they use in their own print farm".
I received my Mini a couple of weeks ago, and this review is pretty much spot on to my experience so far. It's just a solid, reliable printer for those who want to make things and not have to tinker.
After working with a Cetus Mk2 this sounds so good haha
@@jadesparrowx same story with my CR-6 SE which had a warped bed!
That is exactly what I want not going to lie. While the ender 3 v2 has been good the amount of tinkering that it required was way too much and too many failed prints. I want a machine I can rely on and print models
Excellent review, Tom. Way back in 2016 (almost 4 years ago this month) I waited until the end of your MK2 assembly livestream to pull the trigger on a MK2 purchase. I’ve since gone on to a MK3S with MMU2S, a delta, and a Railcore CoreXY printer. You cover so many important “quality of life” features in your reviews that others ignore. One item that also tilts the scales towards the Prusa Mini is the excellent Prusa support. Especially for a new printer owner, they might not know all the ins and outs of forums, Discord’s, and FB groups for community support. The ability to chat with Prusa, get replacement parts easily if needed, etc., is really another great selling point for the Mini.
Thomas, you are a master at editing your videos, you manage cuts so well, you don't have audio issue but we can see the ghost around when you have done many takes and your body and/or the objects around have changed between the takes
Great review, Thomas. Answered all of the questions I've had for months. Thanks again!
Very honest and on point review. Given your friendship with the namesake man himself, you are very unbiased, and hats off to that.
Desk footprint is much smaller on the mini too vs ender. Makes a difference if space is at a premium.
my case
Well the bed size is also smaller, so it's not really a big deal IMO
I bought a Prusa Mini+ yesterday and watched this video today. Glad to hear. Thanks for the review.
Great review! I am considering purchasing a few of these for the mini-print farm I want to set up for my printing projects, and this looks like it might be the answer I was looking for! Thanks!!
I've been looking forward to this video since june
I bought and tested one of the first editions. I wasn't sold on it at first, but with the next revisions of parts and firmware sold me on it. I wound up buying 36 in total for my farm.
Thank you so much for this review. I am asking for a printer for Christmas and wasn't sure which one to ask for. This seems like the best one to start with
I’m getting one as a birthday gift and I can’t wait, thanks for the info
The ease of use and the bed leveling to be able to just print without fiddling with the printer for someone that doesn't print every day was the main reason why I ordered the Mini as my next printer after having started with a kit printer.
thank you, been waiting on this review for a while and you didn't disappoint.
This is one of the most accurate and honest reviews I’ve come across in a very long time. As I watched this I was wondering if any of the things I have experienced would be covered and everything was. Btw - I recently switched from an Ender 5 to the Mini and I’m very happy that I did.
Keep up the good work!
Wow, thanks!
Could you elaborate any specific things that are the reason why you are glad you did? i am a bit on the fence myself...
@@argmarc I was a little quick of the mark there… the Ender 5’s steppers are really loud and the build plate is slightly warped from the factory. From what I’ve read this is or was common with Creality machines at the time.
Initially the mini printer really crisp prints and bed adhesion was great but that changed after a month when nothing stuck and I got failed print after failed print. I’ve subsequently bought the super pinda upgrade but can’t be bothered to install it right now as I got myself a Mars 2 resin printer.
Another thing that I really dislike about Prusa slicer is that it doesn’t do tree supports which I find fantastic for printing minis on an FDM.
I was tempted to buy the Ender 3 pro which I think has the silent steppers and upgraded bed but ultimately went with the resin printer for minis.
@@nickvictor861 Thanks for info!
@@argmarc welcome.
Just thinking more about it and trying to be as fair as possible - I believe that Prusa are integrating lessons learnt over time into the Mini as they go along so the super pinda will be standard (if it isn’t already) and any other improvements that get fed back. So if the bed adhesion issue is fixed then it is very good value as the build quality is superior to most other printers - and the auto bed levelling feature is absolutely fantastic.
I will be installing that new pinda as I do want to use it for printing out terrain.
Tbh, I’d really like to see Thomas do a revisit of the Prusa mini, a year on, covering his experiences as I expect it would be a balanced piece.
Have had mine for a year now and really like it, other than the Prusa reputation and the ease of the sheet metal print beds, physical space was a big consideration for why I went with the Mini. Thanks for your excellent and detailed reviews.
I like how you keep putting that printed part back together the other way, it's funny :D
Great video as usual, Tom!
xD yea made me nervous. the whole time i was thinking "dude just throw it away, put it somewhere else or whatever. its clearly way to close", but i think he was set on having it stand exactly at that spot. you can tell he's pretty ocd with stuff like that, a perfectionist, i guess you could call it too. but it definitely shows in the quality of his videos, which is top notch, even i can tell as a noob. not to speak about the content theres no question about that of course
What comes to my mind first If I hear "Prusa"?
3-6 weeks
I think that is the biggest problem prusa has is the wait time.
@@maxliberman9653 If it would have normal shipping times of day-two I would buy MK3S for myself and 1-2 for work.
@@Arek_R. do you need it in 2 days?
@@andre_pikes I said shipping time not delivery time.
Most stores dispatch orders within 24 hours.
@@Arek_R. Correct. Most stores do not have tens of thousands of backorders at one time + covid in the world. Also everything is made in house so iterations happen faster and reliable. There is roughly 600 employees working everyday, sending out over 400+ printers each day.
Just.. stand in the line and be patient.
Thank you so much for your helpful review Thomas! Just placed my order a few moments ago via your link! 🥳
Quick update! After weeks of waiting, unboxing and setup, I've just made my third successful print! Falling in love with it! Thank you so much for your advice Tom!
Hi Thomas, I really like your reviews and thoughts abot a specific topic. Keep on like this. Considering the Mini after ordered my MK3S+...
Welcome back to informative, well written and helpful reviews! Thanks Tom :)
Good that you mention that one of Prusa's goals is making the most of affordable hardware. Too often people would make a wish list for a Prusa machine that would easily break 2000 bucks if they actually made a machine to the requested specs.
Just ordered a Mini the other day. Expecting it in November. I can grab a bunch of Prusament along the way.
Thanks I have been waiting for this review for a long time
I purchased a Mini after having an Ender 3 for 8 months. I had the exact opposite experience with the Mini than what I was expecting. I wanted a printer that was plug and play with no tweaking or problem solving. From the first day it was nothing but problems. I eventually worked through them all most with solutions not officially supported or suggested by Prusa. I was never able to solve the Z offset changing from print to print no matter what heat up procedure I followed.I also had bed adhesion issues with the textured sheet with PETG.
I was so disappointed that none of my expectations were met that I sold it and bought a Artillery X1, took a couple of days to solve it's assembly and part shortcomings and have had a reliable printer since then. I'm gonna have a hard time considering a Prusa printer in the future.
Just my 2 cents.
@@owowowdhxbxgakwlcybwxsimcwx I didn't swap, I added to the Ender 3. I simply wanted a plug and play, no fuss printer that I didn't have to tinker with that could be my go to when I was experimenting with my Ender. Size wasn't an issue but it didn't work out anyway and now I have a bigger printer with my X1.
When did you receive your Mini? I heard that the original ones had issues but they have fixed a lot of them..
@@ithork In March. It was revision 2 printed parts. As far as I know there haven't been any more hardware updates since the version that I had. Hope that helps.
I have an Artillery Sidewinder X1 as well and it has been great, but my extruder got clogged and I cannot fix it after several attempts. However a replacement extruder is only $36. Still really happy with it and think it offers some more things than the Prusa Mini.
I hear this a lot. The mini seems to have a temperament. A friend wanted me to recommend a cheap "easy to use" beginner printer that required a minimum of knowledge and someone had recommended the mini and I talked him out of it. First of all, it's not cheap and I think you're better off with an Ender 3 because it's so well documented. The Ender 3 was my first and I had it assembled and printing nearly flawlessly after an hour and half. The CR-6 SE I just received: assembled and printing flawlessly within 20 minutes. Printers are getting better but I think Prusa needs to up their game - I don't feel their high price point is competitive in today's market considering their printers aren't quite as flawless as the Prusa fanboys make it out to be.
Thanks for the content Thomas, well done...
Great review, your videos are awesome keep it up!
My first was an Mk3 i3 Kit. Hard to build but turned out perfect. My mini was easy and is perfect too.
Thomas Sanladerer convinced me to buy my first printer.
Excellent video. I soooo want one. Gotta keep loading up that swear jar
Awesome review! Well rounded.
I really like your verdict. Myself, I bought an Ender 3 Pro precisely for having to tinker and thus learn about 3D printing. (And boy did that thing deliver, it made me furious at times...) Now I know a bit about 3D printing, and I have a printer that pretty reliably prints stuff. Should it ever break, I will look at Prusa's offerings for sure.
Great, great video, man. Great review, very honest, nice pace, very clear... great points discussed. Subscribed, of course.
I love how many times you knocked over the model. I was cheering when @20:34 you are NEARLY knocking it over.
the MK2(S) was my first printer based on your recommendation. Now it is a Haribo modded, Skelestruder printer but the Mini would have been the perfect starting printer.
17:00 "Literally a black box - more or less."
Actually quite accurate since plane "black boxes" are also orange.
Just passing by to say thanks for a lot of great videos 😊
Have the issues you mentioned been fixed? It is Oct 2021, and I am about to order the Mini; just curious if there have been updates.
I really like the idea of this printer and love that they finally put out a more entry level printer. However what I'm really looking forward to is all the improvments that the i3 will get from this.
Good video. I have an Ender 3, but will be ordering the Prusa Mini before the weekend is over.
Joe Prusa sent me this:
"schaut so aus als ob der mini bald deutsch kann"
"looks like the mini will soon be able to speak German"
Just FYI, the two textured sheets I got for my regular MK3 also have serious adhesion issues. The only thing I've figured out that worked was to give it a vigorous scrubbing in hot soapy water, followed by a thorough scrubbing with a paper towel and isopropyl alcohol after every print.
Even then, I still have to re-wash the sheet every few prints.
I had that problem with the USB as well lol. My solution was putting the printer on the edge of a desk. The key
ring actually comes in handy.
It looks like they ironed out their issues... I originally ordered one when they first came out but many reviews reported a variety of problems. Also the waiting list is really obnoxious...
We picked up 9 mini's for our farm.. We print mostly PETG and ASA and all our parts are around 2" cubed or less. Perfect little machine for us!
Very nice looking printer. In my mind I really think it should be supported by the extrusions on both sides, but good to hear it performs well.
I have a MK3S and I wonder the same thing about the cooling fan not helping cooling down after a print. If I want to shut down the printer quick, I manually set it to 255, but I don't get why this is not a standard thing.
Thank you for all of your videos about this machine, Thomas. I've seen them all and they were really helpful to better understand this whole new 3D printing world we are entering at. Now, I'm thinking about printing lots of small (2 to 3cms in height) average detailed figures for board games. Small figures like tanks, cavalry, infantry, artillery, trucks, cannons, and so on, are already on my list to be modelled and printed.
I will be using Blender for all the 3D modelling stuff. Could this be the right printer for that job? Any particular concerns or tips that you can give me for this particular job? What kind of material should I use so that the small figures don't break easily while handled by the players? PLA? Any particular tips/warnings for the modelling itself? I've never used a 3D printer before so I am a completely newbie on this one.
As I said, I would like the figures to have some detail, but not an outstanding one. Just normal figures that are being used nowadays on medium range price board games. Thank you in advance and I'm sorry for the long text.
Cheers, JayF
Lisbon
I like that he kept the 'oww' part in the edit...
As usual great review. Was looking for a 3D printer that just gets "stuff done". I think I found it.
Thanks Thomas for this honest review! I missed one downside wich i was sure will be mentioned: MINDA! No temp. compensation. In my case, its really a big flaw. I can not start a print and be sure the first layer is right without live-z adjusments. I really wonder if you have the same experience like me and many other mini owners.
Cheers
I placed my order in March and got it 3 weeks ago (approx 4 months leadtime). Was it worth the wait? Oh, yes! After 30 minutes of assembly, selftest and calibration I was up and running doing my first print. Now it's printing around the clock in my basement. Sofar I'm very happy with it!
Is there a way to get a MK3 with the fancier screen/board stock, or will there be some re-release or what? (Granted this can all be added with mods admittably)
So what were your expectations - and did the Mini meet them?
Definitely but I’m having issues with the firmware
I've got an early Mini, and it's had a few issues... First was the hot end clogging issue, that took a whole to find the solution... The manual gets you close, but they're tricks to not having a gap. Second was the MINDA... I just got the replacement yesterday and it did fix my issue. The Mini seemed to have no clue where the z axis was. The probe seemed fine. The light was on unless there was metal under it... No short that I could find. The new MINDA was redesigned ever so slightly... She printing great again... But, what is going to break next? At least my MK3s is solid! (Knock on wood). 😁
getting hard to watch with all the mid roll ads
@@tetra3dprint But there is absolutely no tuning needed! ;)
I have a mini since February. Not my first one and I love the hassle less package of slicer and machine.
I have been waiting for this!!!
Thomas, you did a great job there besides knocking the model over for 4 times. Great comparison with the Ender 3 V2, I did that too, what the display matters.
Please print and assemble the "mini base." Would love to see video and review. Always enjoy your considered opinion and reviews.
The extruder gripe is totally valid. You can fix the fan probe issue and the USB stick issue just felt so silly to even mention lol.
I have printed close to 300h since i got my Mini. The extruder just experienced a catastrophic failure yesterday and was swapped with a bondtech replacement unit today, which should be an option at buy.
Thank you for reviewing this :)
The only “big” thing about it at the moment is the backlog of orders...
I got the one I ordered at the end of February 2 weeks ago. I haven't even had time to open the package yet....
@@lmychajluk Ooh you waited a strangely long time. My printer ordered in mid February arrived on the 4th of June, my friends ordered in April came at the beginning of last week.
@@_Piers_ Just double-checked. It was actually ordered more like mid-March (just before all the Covid shenanigans started), but still over a 4 month wait. I actually got it early - at the time of order, I wasn't expecting it until sometime in Aug.
I ordered mid june, they promiss late august, if they deliver, it would be only 8-10 weeks.
Waiting my machine to arrive next month, excited ^^
I still haven’t purchased, but I’m leaning towards it as my first printer. I’m experienced with 3D printers, but I have always been hesitant because of the price. This definitely makes it more appealing. Idk why but I really want to see the WiFi settings introduced before I order. Will the WiFi printing be gimmicky or something you all are looking forward to?
Kind of expensive for a small 3D printer, but after a bad experience with an Ender 3 that I could never get working properly (chronic underextrusion even after putting in a metal extruder until I literally stuck a bed leveling spring in the extruder, extremely finicky bed leveling, a "bumpy X axis) I think I'd be willing to pay the premium.
does it print all materials on the smooth sheet or will i ever need the textured for specific filaments? will it print carbon fiber or wood?
Excellent presentation.
Thumbs up from an happy mini owner!! First 3d printer and it worth every single cents, go for it ;)
What do you think about switching the Bowden tube to Capricorn for flexibles? I'm looking to start getting into flexibles, but wondered if this was overkill? I did upgrade the extruder to the Bondtech with the internal filament sensor and really glad I did that. Nice overview!
The older darker colored (more gray/black) textured build plates have better out of the box adhesion. However they start flaking and sticking leaving black flakes on your first layer over time. The newer more (yellowish/brownish) textured plate seem to hold up better but don't give you great adhesion out of the box. I do what Prusa tells you not to do... I wipe it down with acetone before I run a single print on it. After that I mainly use IPA with the exception of an acetone wipe down about once a month. I haven't had any issues since I started doing this. The first build plate I did this with is still good and it has been nearly a year.
I had finally caved to buy a 3D printer after years of wanting one, and now my MINI should arrive early October :)
great to have you in the community :)
i ordered a mini months ago and it arived a week ago its my first printer and its great ive printed so many things i have it printing next to me and its so silent i wont hear anything for a while so i look over to see if my print is done and its still printing a small fan is easily louder and at 0.05mm layer height which is the lowest preset you cant see or feel the layers its like magic to press print when you go to bed and wake up to a new toy
8 week lead time is rough.
After owning two delta printers, I was considering the Mini until I found a great Black Friday deal on an Artillery Sidewinder X1 for slightly less than the Mini. My point isn't to praise the X1 (which is supremely awesome), but to suggest comparing what else can be done with the same amount of money and some careful shopping.
hey wanna send me one lol i want a printer
Is the Artillery Sidewinder X1 a Chinese printer?
My new MK3S came with the powder coated bed, and I had a lot of issues with PLA sticking. One person recommended washing it with dish soap and water, so I did. It helped significantly. Small parts can still detach but I have had much more success after the dish soap. It could help with the mini as well.
Print the first layer super slow about 10-15mm/s and it won't come off. (+u can use the glue stick came with the printer, I always use it for long prints, I don't want to risk a failed print)
FYI, latest firmware has power panic when printing from USB
I had the same problem with the PEI sheed. Think it was related due to bed temperature and a way to high nozzle in the first layer. You need to get the nozzle rly low (by calibrating it in the printers options, not in the slicers options). Everythink after that sticks fine and gets loose by itswelf when the bed gets cold.
Top video. Thanks for making my decision easy
Heya Thomas, would it be wise to buy a prusa mini+ now, or should we wait until later this year? Considering it's almost 3 years old I feel like prusa will be releasing a new mini version soon
Would you recommend this,a cr10 v2/v3,a flashforge adventurer 3 or an ender 3 + a photon zero
Hi Thomas, i own a prusa mini+ since one month and start to wonder, if i would be better of with an mk3s+. I am looking to print PETG with as minimal strining as possible. If i look at the data sheet i don't see a clear picture that the mk3s+ is worth all that extra money. What do you think? I am missing classical comparison videos.
My printrbot simple metal is showing its age and so I have ordered the Mini with filament sensor and the extra flexible build plate. Mostly I print things to prove the viability of my designs.
Hi! Looking for my first 3D printer... I'm down to this or the Ender 3 V2... can you help shed light on which is best for a first timer who want to do a mix of fun things like Star Wars ships as well as practical things like tools or adapters for VR headsets, etc? Thanks!
Your videos are very informative and enjoyable...even if I just ordered the Ender 5 Pro. $400 and 8 weeks out for this Mini...Yikes!
we got 3 mini's kits. 2 worked from the moment I turned them on and a year later are just wonderful. The other one has been a real problem child.
So what was your very first printer Tom?
I'm using Prusa Slicer with my home brew repstrap. it usually works better than Cura, but it does have some issues with 'generic' printers. The biggest problem is setting and storing your own filament profiles, it won't let you easily copy 'their' profiles and save them for your printer. I usually have to turn off the flag that blocks profiles not tagged for my printer.
Great review Tom.
I’d be curious to see what happens if you print a 1z layer across the entire print area. Wondering how flat it would come out with the cantilevered design.
I do find it somewhat surprising that in 2020 we’re still having to use USB sticks to transfer files. I expected a networked printer to have “send to printer” within the Prusa ecosystem.
Specially with the i3 models, that needs to use SD card - no USB port, no network.
So woud you recommend this printer to someone without any 3D printing experience whatsoever as a first machine?
I would. Mine arrived a few weeks ago, and my girlfriend who's a first timer has had no issue slicing, plugging in the usb and just letting it print while I've not been there.
I went from MP Select Mini V2 to Prusa Mini. Overall I like the experience from Prusa, but extruder drives me crazy. I never had to clean gears on MP, on Mini I had to clean them dozen of times from PET-G and from Matt PLA. Once ended up with failed print by that when Matt PLA filled all gear. Second thing is its inability to fast and easy access, especially when trying to print flex. 40D is doable, 30D hardly with constant monitoring, which is hard because of its location. I still like this printer but it needs a bit of refinement. Maybe Mini 1S upgrade kit ;)
I just sent mine in for warranty service for a z-offset problem. Since the day I got it 1 month ago, it wouldn’t maintain the z-offset. I had to adjust the offset via live z-adjust at the start of every print. Even when I performed consecutive first layer calibrations, it needed a different z-offset every time. Sometimes it was a difference of 0.5mm. I troubleshot it for 3 weeks with Prusa support and they finally asked me to send it in.
It ended up not being related, but I found that the y-carriage was binding at the front and back of full travel because the hole spacing for the linear rods on the 3D printed front and back y-faces were at least 0.25mm too close. I 3D printed new ones on my Mk3S and fixed that problem. Anyway, I still think it’s a good quality printer, I just wish I had more than 3 weeks to enjoy it, and use it for anything other than troubleshooting a problem it shipped with.
Sadly the reseller in Thailand jacks up the price so much that it isn't the same league as Ender 3 V2 anymore.
And the process you have to go through to import one yourself is mindboggling.
why not start making copys of this machine
@@kantorobo7718 For that price I just build BLV Cube instead since I can order the parts from China quite cheap. Other people might not confident enough to build instead of buying one.
The only problems I have right now on my mini is I have to turn off z-hop once I find it in the slicer and I also have to adjust the seam position, but so far other than a few mistakes that I made I love my prusa.
I've just got 10 bigtreetech s42b closed loop motor controllers (not sponsored)... For both my printers.
Thomas, Could you review this tech for all 3d printing people? I think you don't have anything on this topic yet.
I would need the exact outer dimensions of the mini (with cables inclusive). Would it fit in a 40x40x40 enclosure?
I was able to get PLA to stick to textured surface ok... just lowered first layer so filament paths squish together completely with no air gaps between them. Maybe set first layer at 0.2 and live adjust down 0.05~0.1... I did have a tall skinny wing profile pop off once because a small air gap
I have the same adhesion issues with this Prusa plate. It's only working with 3DLac, PETG and PLA. Looks like there are different ones on the street. Some work, some not.
many thanks, very helpful. Is it able to work with FlexFill 98 and 40 as well ?
Thank you so much. I’ve been thinking about getting this as my first 3-D printer! I’ve been watching videos about 3-D printing for years and now I want to take the plunge myself. Do you think this would be a good printer for beginners, or do you think there are other printers that would be better well-suited for people just starting out for the very first time?
It's a little tricky to put together but mine is a simple push the button and go. It has never failed in any way and puts out perfect prints.
Hi Thomas, could you please activate the subtitles in English so I translate them into Spanish, I'm from Argentina and I love your videos. Regards
The textured sheet worked fine with PLA for me. Just had to decrease z height further than what I did on the MK3
6:10 So with heatbreak that thick it still works well with PLA? I hope Chinese manufacturers switch to this design too so they can print higher than 250C out of the box.
May i know the size of that metal table? Coz it may affect the maximum size of the 3D end product.. and is it possible for us to colourize the end product if we use the white filamen?