Why I Chose a Champion 2500 Generator - A Better Deal Than Honda EU2200 and Harbor Freight Predator
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My name is Dave and I travel with my dog Bella in a 1987 Class A Motorhome. My channel is about full time RV Living in an older RV while keeping the wheels rolling on a budget. I do the repairs, updates and upgrades myself. I’ve become my own RV Mechanic/Medic! I seek boondocking opportunities every chance I can and power the RV with 500 watts of solar and approximately 500 amp hours of batteries. RV Resorts are just not our style!
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Dave, I appreciate that this wasn't a freebie and a commercial like so MANY of the RV channels do. How refreshing that you paid for it, like the rest of us out here who haven't sold their souls to CZcams.
I bought a Champion 2500 a 18 months ago for my 17 ft. casita travel trailer. So far i have no issues, it can run the AC, the refrigerator and 24 in. TV at the same time with no issue.
Good choice… I have a 3500 dual fuel Champion for bout 8 yrs been a good one… also that model u bought I think can be paired up to get more power if needed
I bought one of those a couple of years ago, because I live in the mountains and power goes out on the regular. It works good so far, even with the damage l did to it. I took it out in the forest so l could use an electric chainsaw for firewood. My mistake was setting it down directly on the dirt, which was a fine silt. Turns out most of their issued inthrough the bottom. After that l had to do 3 oil changes right away to get the oil to come out somewhat clean.
It also smokes like crazy on startup.
Make sure to put it on a sheet of plywood or cardboard.
Thanks for sharing that! :)
I got one of these a year ago its a fantastic deal. I live in Fl. bought for hurricanes. I mostly use it to recharge my solar power stations. I really like the propane side of it no carb to clean and no fuel storage hassles. It's not loud for a generator just a good deal.
I think it’s time you poured a pad or driveway for your RV and your van this way you don’t have to worry about the mud.
But it’s not his property… 🤷🏻♀️
@@lindagolden9892I’m sure the owner wouldn’t mind!
Excellant choice! Shawn with Long long honeymoon has done extensive reviews on them. He's definately a fan of Champion. They have great support too.👍👍
You are giving Champion a Great review!!!! They should hook up with You & give you one! 👍 now back to your show!!! Thanks Dave for information!!!
Of course, right after we bought a Predator. 😂 Great share!
oops... I hate when that happens!
They are available in DUAL FUEL ( PROPANE( too.
🌻 Dave thanks for doing and sharing all the comparisons. I’ve snapped a pic of this box presentation as a quick reminder for my needs.👏
Thank you so much! Dave! Sincerely appreciate it!
Thank for sharing and may that generator serve you well
GREAT VIDEO !!
Good info with the comparison of the generators.
we just came home from a boondocking fishing camp and used a Max Peeding Rod 3500 generator from china - amazon we used it for two years now so far so good
Great Video very helpful!!!
I have been looking for a backup to run the sump pump with a power outage. I appreciate the honest comparision.
I would definitely look back in your videos to find your recommendations for purchasing something, you make sense to me. Good video Dave. 😁😁😎😎👍👍
Awesome thanks for sharing see yah Dave an Bella hugs always ❤❤
ive been watching you before you sold the bounder..good channel and good videos.Thanks Dave
Thanks for sharing
Dave I got to hand it to you I really appreciate watching all your videos very informative specially this one on the generator. I like the way you go into detail
I appreciate that!
Good choice Dave. I have only owned Champion Inverter Generators and have had great luck. Very dependable. I’d recommend installing a hour meter to help stay on top of oil changes.
Hope it works out for you 🤗 give Bella Bella a big hug for me❤👋
Thank you, I will
Honda EU2000 even used on FB marketplace is legendary.
I like the harber fright predator quite gen with 30amp plug
Thanks for sharing. Just to answer your question, you can get Westinghouse generators at Lowes. Take care and safe travels. p.s. next time you’re on the Mississippi Gukf Coast check out the Mississippi Model Train museum. No admission (at not when we visited). Fun little stop.
Nice video
My husband loves his Champions.
Very informative Dave I would've liked to have seen if it rang your roof air
That is the same one I got. I had a 4000/3500 Champion remote start that I loved but it was too much for what I need. I love the new one so far too. The old one was 20 years old and still running strong. I sure miss the remote start tho.
I bought the Champion 2500 watt dual fuel genny from Amazon during one of their Black Friday sales. I've used it quite a bit and it runs like a champ (pun intended).
Hey there I love your channel!! This is affirming to see i made the right choice on a generator! I have been watching a lot of ur vids trying to see how you solved the problem of your AC not tilted enough, could you explain?
Gotta be careful with manufacturers DB ratings, there is no standard measurement criteria. Some use half speed and/or different distances for the measurements. I know that propane has less BTUs than gas but to say luging around a can of gas, especially in a van, is more convenient than a 20# propane tank is something I don’t agree with
maybe i get one for my rv, i have one since 2019 & it still running strong. as long you take care for them. do the oil plug keep it dry. don't overload it.
I sent a link of this video to Champion. You're welcome.🤭
👏 👏 👏 Dave gave a terrific review and comparison.
I bought the Westinghouse i2500 two years ago and haven't had any issues. If I ever have to replace it, Champion will be on the short list. The Westinghouse has all the similar specs except it has a larger and heavier engine, it's a beast at 53 lbs.
I thought it got quieter. When you put a load to It. Enjoy your channel Dave.I've been watching you for a Since 2018.
The revs drop under load, hence quieter?
👍👍👍 Good choice . PS. Lulu Getting a new sister Tuesday !
I got the 4650 champion with remote I love it good product. Be careful stay safe 😂
Nice 👍
Wouldn’t go by the run time on the box, My predator ran 14 hours powering a few lights and a shop fan
Nice generator...
I looked at the 4650 as well...
Got a question for ya regarding TPMS for your vehicle, Im looking at sensors to monitor tire pressure instead of looking at the indicator on the dash. Had new tires installed but the sensors are extra. The heck with that. Any recommendations to disable the dash indicator, 2014 Honda crv and it's paid for.
Amazon has this same one now for $395.00. Hope it helps. My backup generator for my home and my camper generator are both champions. I have never had a problem.
Nice review. I've also seen some reviews of the dual fuel version. I know that you said you prefer the gas only version. Just wondering if it's more effecient to run gasoline? Enjoying the videos! Jim in Georgia
I prefer dual fuel as carry propane tanks and don’t have to carry gas. Use to use Champion but had issues with them not lasting.
So are you still going to clean the Carburetor and fuel system on the Champion in the Coachman?. or is it running ok?
The human ear can only distinguish a sound level change between 3dB and 10dB changes. Some ears can hear a change of loudness below 10 dB change but not many. On another note do you have a soft-start device on the coachmen AC unit?
It does not have a fuel filter. Jets in carb tend to clog. Great until it starts running rough. The fuel intake contains the fuel filter. Be ready to clean the carb..
I miss your BEARD. It looked so GOOD on you, Dave.
Dave have you ever thought of getting a small fake rock for sound deadening on one of those generators.they are very light .the only other con would be dragging it around..probably better for your big driver rv.i bought a fake rock to cover my water well pump in my front yard..before i bought the fake rockt i had a hideous looking block pump house that was ugly and even with a heat light it seemed my water was always freezing.. lol..it already had foam insulation but of course i added some anyway im sure if you did use a rock you could pop a few ventilation holes for the muffler but not to many as to negate the sound deadening
Cool.
So from your review, your going to save on gas with the weight difference. That alone will be a substantial money savings. You might want to keep track of how much fuel you save ! They would give you a deal from the company !!!
I have a 2000 watt one for 5 years now. It's been used hard and burns some oil now. Still fires up on 1 pull. I did upgrade to a better carburetor after the butterfly shaft snapped on the original carb. And I've replaced the step motor once. It filled with fine sand after extensive use in the desert. I love mine and I recommended it to friends who also enjoyed the money savings over a Honda or Yamaha. Yes its a knockoff but at 1/3 the price of a Honda, I can buy 2 more. I heat and ac my van with it mainly. Also to top off house batteries when solar power was reduced due to cloudy weather.
If you did not have solar on the Coachman, how long would it take the new generator to charge the house batteries from 50% to 100%?
Bought my Westinghouse Gen at Sam’s
i picked upa great deal at home depot, 3500 , 50lbs very small ,
nice and easy, super quite and only 450
Do you use your Jackery?
I've repaired many Honda's they are not fun to work on. They will eventually need carb. Work fuel line and pump replacement if you run ethanol and alot of disassembly to do it. Haven't worked on these yet. Good luck Dave.
Who runs a Honda without ethanol free?
@@joeblow8206 a lot of places across the country don't sell it I'm lucky I can buy it but some people cry about paying .50 to $1. More per gal.😆
Sounds a little loud maybe it’s me😮😮😮😮😊😊😊😊so was the extra expense on the other model added muffler/sound reduction? Did you get to start them up before purchasing?
Dang nice dinner…
I bought a Wen2350 similar weight 39 lbs and sound rating as your Champion. Some say the Wen is using the Yamaha engine. The Wen has a 4.5 star rating on Amazon. I like my Wen but probably most brands are pretty good.
You have to go with what works for you but for me I went solar and lithium. Silent endless fuel supply from the Sun.
Family farm and home sells Westinghouse generators.
Hey, Camperworld there $499.99 Tractor supply might match prices
Once you find a brand you trust you stick with it! No explanation necessary
Dave, wise choice on your generator decision. There is no need to spend excessive amounts of money on the H gen as compared to your smart, final choice. Most folks are not aware the engine in the expensive category you did Not choose, has a ribbed rubber band 1/4 " wide that connects the crankshaft and camshaft. How long will that device last? Metallic chains or similar configurations that serve the same function are not provided on numerous brands of portable gens. The brand you chose represents value for the money. Please remember any gen powered by gasoline can only achieve 80 % of it's rated maximum output capacity. Due to the BTU value of gasoline [approx. 1050/ cu. ft.], only 80 % of the gens capacity will be available. In essence, your 2,500 watt gen will produce 2Kw max. The key to longevity and operational reliability of your system involves changing the engine oil every 20 hours. Ignore the mans. recommended oil interval change. Remember, they don't want your gen system to last for years upon years. They prefer your engine wears out asap. Oil is cheap, generator repairmen are charging 287 bucks/ hour on a national average. When gasoline is used, the engine's constant RPM value of 3,600 RPM's and 87 octane gasoline produce a few more hydrocarbons than LP fuel. Those hydrocarbons turn into soot and carbon accumulation in the valve stem area.. Consider using only premium gasoline [ 92 octane, if possible] because their is No capacity for the engine to advance or retard it's timing while operating. It's main objective is to run @ 3,600 RPM's, continuously. Be kind to your new gen, constantly consider it's maintenance whether the manufacture suggests it or not. Consider checking the starting battery and the charge rate once/week The more frequently you change the oil, the less problems will develop over the long haul; and you can take that to the bank. Hug Bella for me, please.
Best advices seen for a long time for small engine’s durability
Honda's aren't for everybody, that's for sure. A lot of guys are content buying stuff made by Chinese pre-schoolers, and that's okay.
I have predator and a generac 3500 and I very rarely ever use them.
I had a champion. It ran for about 6 months, then it didnt. Good warranty? They would not honor their good warranty until I checked for fuel delivery and adjusted the valves. I am NOT a mechanic. Got half my money back from Amazon and bought a predator from Harbor Freight. Never again will I own a Champion.
Weight with or without fuel!
Westinghouse 2500
Does it matter that you turned the dial to the propane marker (green) and not the gasoline marker (red) after you took it off choke position? My OCD needs to know.
It doesn't have a propane option. Green is the run position.
@@DavesRVLife My bad. I was thinking it was the dual fuel model like I have.
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Does that mean this one is easier to walk away with?
Yes, if not secured!
One weigh is dry and the other is wet full gas tank and oil. They weigh about the same, I have a Champion 2000.
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I get it; the champion is a good generator and at less than half the price. But not in the same league as the Honda. The Honda eu2200 motor displacement is 120cc vs the champion at 79cc. I don't care what the advertised wattage is, the torque of the larger engine makes a huge difference. I guarantee you the Honda will run at 2000w all day. But yeah...expensive.
And the Lord said “LET THERE BE LIGHT” then he said “no no no not that gas burning artificial stuff”!!!
By the way my Wen was only $429. On Amazon
You just bought it because of the color.... yellow. Matches your lawnmower and tractor 😅
lol... :)
"A better deal" really depends overall... It's obviously "cheaper" than a Honda 2200i, but not if you go through 2 every year when a Honda lasts 10+ years...
I guess you missed the part where the 3100 in the Coachmen is 11 years old and I've had it in 4 RVs and it's still going strong.
@@DavesRVLife Nope, didn't miss it. Glad the 3100 is still working well. I watched several negative reviews on the Champion 2500 being junk. I know you'll take care of it and look forward to future updates on it.
It won't last half as long as a Honda.
I own a Honda EU2000i with 930ish hours on my add-on hour meter. I also own a Champion 2500 Dual Fuel that has only propane in it since new with 961 hours on the add-on hour meter.
Both ultra reliable! I’ve added the Hutch Mountain propane conversion to my Honda after I bought the Champion. Now both only run off of propane….
@danw4962 do you run your champ in eco mode non stop? Im just curious with mine in case of premature wearing with the low rpm's
Made in China?
Must be nice having all those millions from YOutube :-o
this isn't 1962 things don't need broke in. its a myth from the depression era gen
This is just a stupid comment. Even Honda has a break-in.
Harbor freight is expensive
Just the other day in my City, they put Everything on sale 20 % off. So just keep an eye out for sales they do a lot !!!
Question. I just got the Champion 2500 yesterday. For some reason it will not run my 13.5btu AC on my camper, but the Honda 2200 ran it fine. I tried both ECO and ECO off and it still killed the generator when AC turned on. Im very dissapointed with it.
UPDATE. Turns out im an idiot and was trying to run it on the propane setting instead of gas. It now runs the AC fine. I am however very confused how it ran at all on the propane setting, when it had no propane connected to it?