4090 Worth it for VRCHAT?
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- čas přidán 5. 01. 2023
- My experience with the 4090 on VRCHAT
Been using it for 2 months now and I am absolutely amazed by it, and cant wait to be able to fully use it with an upgraded CPU as well. Overall full worlds with no safety settings can be attained but with low 20 FPS. However Normal worlds with around 40 people will be around 30fps+ in a similar situation
Honestly, from my experience CPU makes a much bigger impact for VRC. I recently upgraded my PC. Went from a 2080 to a 4080 and the performance improvement was there, but still rarely saw frames above 40-60 in publics, and not above 90 in empty worlds. But after I upgraded my CPU from a 3700x to a 5800x3d, I would consistently reach 200-300 fps in empty or less populated worlds (like treehouse in the shade) and 30-50 fps in full club events with 60-80 players.
Yes same. When i upgraded my ryzen 7 2000 to a 5000 ryzen 5 my fps almost doubled.
@@delahaije25 what gpu do you have?
Frametime is super important when it comes to vr the additional l3 cache is super useful, though once you unbottleneck at the cpu level higher end gpus start to matter
Went from a 1060 3gb to an undervolted 3080 10gb with the same CPU (3500X I think) and the difference is IMMENSE and made the game not only playable but beautiful
I think having more ram in a card matters a lot and a lot more than if it is newer necessarily
The CPU still struggles to quickly load avatars without glitching in busy club instances even when I have it lightly overclocked but it doesn't appear to be maxing out or overheating or anything
A CPU upgrade is in the works as I know that this game is super CPU heavy
@@the1pigeon 6800xt
3090 vs 4090 is nearly the same due to same VRAM, which is what makes like 90% of VRChat's performance issues
I've been looking into upgrading my PC/components specifically for the purpose of VR (mainly VRChat) for a long while due to performance issues and general improvements across the board. Thanks for the video, definitely pushes me just that small amount more to get things in order. You've earned a new sub! Excited to see what other stuff you make in the future.
Hey, thanks so much I appreciate it. Hopefully you get the best experience as possible from your computer upgrade!
Update: I upgraded :] loving the performance. Thought it might be nice to come back and give a little insight as it's been 4 months since I wrote here. From my experiences thus far with the RTX 4090, can say it was definitely worth the upgrade, especially for VR. Can't compare it to the 3090 given I upgraded from a GTX series card, but I can say it hasn't failed me in any stretch thus far.
Thank you for sharing this 🙏🏽🙏🏽 this was needed info
From what I know, one huge upgrade is buying X3D CPU from AMD. A friend of mine has it and compared to my 5900X, he gets basically the exact same FPS as me BUT his cpu frame times are literally cut in half. Like I'll have some stutters/lag in "Into The Radius" from time to time while his is just a perfectly straight line with 0 stutters. We both have RTX 2080s
thanks for the video this is exactly what I wanted in game and why I ordered a 4090
Can't wait for the avatars and worlds to become heavy enough for the 4090 too
CPU matters so much. All of those physbones are what are really holding back things. If you could limit physbone simulation distance like you can avatars, that'd help much more when VRAM isn't the issue. It would also be nice of VRChat could use more cores of a CPU. I have a Ryzen 9 5950X, but it doesn't seem to use more then one CCX (8-cores) worth of resources, and doesn't even use them at much.
I love my 3090Ti it makes VRC such an awesome experience. Also hell yeah Zoomeir is an awesome DJ 1:26! :)
Interesting idea. also what is 4090 is like resolution is it type of desktop your on??
dang you got a 4090 with only a few subs? unacceptable you earned a sub this is some great content!
Thank you! I appreciate it!
nice video, looking forward to more
Thank I appreciate it!
Liked and subbed. What cpu were you using?
5800x not the best but I tried an upgraded cpu and wasn't impressed at all for the price to performance. So I'm back using the 5800x
wasn't expecting to see myself in this vid haha, but yeah I recently went from a 2070 super from evga, I recently upgraded to an evga 3080ti and with the other specs I already have in it, the upgrade worked well in my favor. Before I had to result to switching to eye resolution at 70% on my index in steam vr which saved frames and such but now I can play smoothly at the default 150% eye resolution with some safety settings on in VRChat alone. other vr games run smoothly for me as well. Turned out my 2070 super was practically limiting me and my frames
Lol, glad my video was found by a friend! Also definitely a great upgrade from a 2070 --> 3080ti!
I currently have a 1660 ti and have believe I just been experienceing those issus myself because of my buget pc but its good to know I'm not the only one having issues with crashing/lagging in vrchat at times and have been curious how well will vrchat play if I got a 4090 so watching this is good to know what would be different and what would be the same even if i gotten it
You need a suitable CPU as well in order to have the best experience since the game is known for its cashing issues, someone on CZcams made a video about this ( a tier list )
That's all I need to hear, buying it
I've never had such severe issues on a 1070ti... are you sure you aren't just running supersampling or 16x anti-alaising or something?
Oh hey! you've been to my events! :D
Hey, glad I could show off one of your events! Definitely was an amazing time and even more amazing music. And I'm happy you could get a massive upgrade for you computer!
VRChar is more CPU intensive since now they’d allowed for multithreading, even my 3900X and 5800X both struggle at times paired with my 3080TI and 32GBs of DDR4 @ 3200mhz/3400mhz
Ayyoo thanks 😄
What CPU? I'm on a 4090 with an i9 9900K and the CPU is 100% bottlenecking it. That being said an 3080 to a 4090 was with it. No more lag spikes when the vram fills out. because it doesn't fill up anymore.
I went from a 3060 ti to a 3090 ti, under the generally same scenarios i get a tiny bit more fps at best, usually around 25 at worst with 30+, 40+ people showing, BUT I do *not* drop frames at all. Fps is the same but feels infinitely better, and I've yet to crash from performance issues. Definitely worth it and makes vr so much better. In private worlds with just me and maybe one or two other people, if the world isn't super poorly optimized I can even hit the 144hz cap on my index and it feels amazing.
Ayyyee another person with a 3060ti haha same here. I want that 4090 tho it looks sooo good
@PROBAGAMING I would have gone for it but my PC case literally does not fit it lol
SAving up myself :D
A 3090 is probably the best value for VRChat, I got it mainly for VRChat and it's such a great experience. The memory throughput of the 4090 isn't much higher than the 3090. The huge 384-bit bus width is the same for both, as is the memory capacity so the 4090 probably wouldn't be a notable difference for VRChat, not least for the fact that (for me with my 5950x and 64gb of ram, at least) the 3090 runs everything you could possibly want it to in VRChat. I never have to hide avi's anymore or turn down settings to prevent lag, it's great.
Absolutely! The 3090 is the best value because all you really do need is the Vram because VRC will use up every bit of memory it can use
Yeah same here. The issue I have: I need tons of VRAM, but I don't even need that much GPU core performance. A 3070 is actually running it similarly well to a 3090. I don't have a 4090 to compare against tho. It probably wouldn't make much of a difference either probably. I currently have a 7900X and switching to a 3D CPU would make a much bigger difference imo. Especially since my 3090 is barely being utilized, especially when you have some CPU frame time spikes. All kinds of stuff related to memory, seem to matter a lot here. 4090 has similar memory bandwidth to a 3090 and I don't even use the core that much. Since I have a dedicated VR PC, its most likely to be completely useless to me. I can't validate that without hardware to test with tho
what cpu are you using?
Need avatar upload limit. Most avatars have higher avatar sizes and lower optimizations than 1 or more worlds combined. Currently, the only way to improve FPS is to upgrade CPU. Then you will be able to get more than 60 fps even on GTX 1080 Ti.
very noice video man :)
Thank you, definitely didn't take me over a week to make haha 🙃
yeah mine RTX 3090 seem fine locked 90 fps using VR, but somehow to setting the better graphic to set low.
Nice video! I'm honestly likely to get a 3090 if i find one or a 6900XT/6950XT
With a 6900xt and a reverb G2 I get pretty good performance at a pretty high resolution
The 4090 can have limited usefulness in VRChat if you don't have a high resolution VR headset to drive with it. If you look at your performance using fpsVR, you'll probably find that you're CPU limited now while the 4090 is barely breaking a sweat.
I'm running a Pimax 8X at ~5000x3000 per eye with a 4090, and even then in worlds with many avatars, I'm CPU limited most of the time with my 5900X. In a world with 30-40 avatars, I'll be getting ~60fps when the GPU would be getting 75fps without the CPU bottleneck.
I'd strongly consider swapping out the 5900X for a 5800X3D if your primary use case is VRChat; Unity games are able to take gigantic advantage from the huge CPU cache.
The most noticeable improvement a 4090 will have for something like VRC is really gonna be the resolution you can push; With a 3080/3090 alone you can push 500% max Render res; You'll have 30-40fps either way if you are at 100% res or 500% res because VRC is just that CPU heavy. I have a 6700xt (Mine is a bit stronger than your average 3070) but I run about 300% (3.5k by 3.8k roughly on my setup) res at get anywhere from 40-120fps on Q2 with Virtual desktop. I can have everyone shown in most cases in a world (But why would you? There is a setting you can change in VRC now where instead of turning people into robotos you can make it so they just don't render after a certain distance; This helps you not load people you can't even see on the other side of a world) and my frame rate never drops below the 30's (And stays at 80+ if I use the distance avatar hider setting). My setup and explanations are as follows;
-5600x OC/UV with PBO's turned on (VRC.. CPU CPU CPU. YOUR CPU WILL PROBABLY HAVE THE LARGEST OVERALL EFFECT ON OVERALL PERFORMANCE!!!)
-6700xt 12gb OC/UV with SAM* enabled (VRAM amount can make a noticeable improvement for both playing at high res/loading tons of avis with higher quality textures!! If you run a card with 4-6gb of VRAM you will have noticable drops in heavy load cases)
-32GB RAM (RAM amount will greatly reduce stutters and RAM speed allows faster communication between the CPU/GPU which also reduces hitching)
-SSD (If you run any modern game on an HDD.. I am sorry.. They are a lot cheaper now and is a must-have upgrade for new game out for both loading times and hitching reasons. Definitely helps to have your VRC cache set to an SSD atleast- Biggest improvement in avatar loading besides internet)
-Personal ASUS Wifi 6 gaming router just for ethernet use on my PC and exclusive wireless use for my Headset. I am listing this in the case of wireless users; Its not your internet speed that matters! Its the reliability of your connection and the transfer speeds of your router, weirdly enough was also a performance improvement in VRC for me atleast, atleast visual smoothness even when hardwired
*If you are an AMD CPU+GPU user ENABLE Smart Access Memory. [SAM] It can be a HUGE performance improvement in some games (and less in others but still helps the 1% and .1% FPS)
SAM allows you CPU to grab as much of your GPU memory as it needs at once unlike normally where your CPU has to access VRAM 128mb at a time. In modern games where VRAM is heavily utilized this means up to 15-25% free performance in some cases, and 10-13% on average. There are older games and some other games that don't benefit from SAM at all basically (1-3% fps boosts) but there is no reason not to turn it on. In the case of VRC however, turning on SAM was a huge help for loading avis and reducing stutters and lagspikes when loading worlds/Avatars with lots/high res textures; EX. Situations that would rely on VRAM.
Resizable Bar is also another option if you don't run an AMD CPU+GPU combo if your Mobo supports it; but from aggressively testing it on my old 2060.. Rebar does not help nearly to the same extent as SAM does and only works in a select few games (You can add more manually) but is still worth turning on. Free FPS is Free FPS.
For reference through testing with 3 friends;
A 4090 will not out perform a 3090, Neither will it out perform a 3070 or my 6700xt in VRC!
What it will do is allow you to push a higher resolution AT the similar framerates!!!
I cannot express this enough! All 4 of us with these different GPU's maintained the same framerates at 300% res staying at about 30-40fps~ in a packed friends+ Black cat with 32 people at one mirror with all very poor avatars! The ONLY difference was that the 3090/4090 friend's could keep that *same* framerate going up to 500% where me and the 3070 user would go down to 15fps~
VRC is 60% CPU 30% RAM and 10% GPU in order of priority roughly as I have seen since playing since 2016.
TLDR: Your GPU means jack shite if you have a 2070+ Level GPU for actual FPS gains and just allows you to push higher resolutions at the same or slightly improved framerates; Your CPU matters 10x more, and don't skip the RAM or SSD! My setup above runs this game at a playable level just as much as the the 4090 in the video minus the potential resolution. I think the importance of new more powerful GPU's will matter more for visual quality once headset resolutions take a bigger jump natively. a Native 4K experience will always looks sharper than a 1080-upscaled-to-4K experience, especially when its right next to your eyes! Hope this helps anyone looking to upgrade their PC for VRChat or VR in general! Bonus tip: Raise your steamVR resolution if you do have a stronger GPU, just find wherever it starts to effect your performance and slide it just a bit back from that point.. You can gain a little extra clarity for no performance hit.
OH! AND FOR ANY OTHER VR GAME A 4090 IS GODSEND! THIS IS JUST FOR VRCHAT!
I’m thinking about returning my rx 6700xt and just getting a 3060 ti for VR since I heard AMD gpus aren’t ideal for VRchat, what do you think?
@@beamis Thats said mostly because of the encoder on AMD Graphics cards, but I think that's more relevant to the Quest 2 wired connection. Either way from personal experience I really have never noticed a downgrade in visuals going from the 2060 EVGA XC Ultra to the 6700xt I use now (actually the complete opposite because the 6700xt is a way more powerful card and allows me to push higher super sampling and refresh rates)
I'd say it's not worth it because the 3060ti is a downgrade in about 80% of games VS the 6700xt except a few Nvidia centric games. I used VR headsets like the quest 2, Reverb G2 and now the quest pro and I can't say I've noticed any of those encoder issues myself. Also don't quote me but I believe the latest AMD driver fixed an issue with some software bitrates being limited to only 100mb/s but I don't think that was relevant to Quest 2 streaming in the first place and was only broken in another one of their beta drivers.
Unless you really care for something like Ray tracing.. but then again the lower end RTX series are half a gimmick since they tend to struggle with it on and bring you frame rates down a lot more than its worth. Atleast was so in my experience with the 2060 and still with the 3060 from what I have seen from benchmarks. Personal take tho!
My GPU is the 6700xt and from my comment above I gave a few of my performance metrics. I play the game through virtual desktop too on my quest pro instead of a wire
TLDR: I use the 6700xt with a 5600x for VRchat without any issues or problems and my experience is smooth, stable, and clear.
thanks for the info, I've been looking to upgrade my PC specifically for VRC as it is really the only PCVR game I have trouble running.
Looking at my PC aside from my SSD's and 1080ti everything could do with an upgrade.
@@trawll8659 no problem, glad I could help! Priority I'd still say is the CPU so aim for that first. 5600x3D just came out and is a good budget beast; $200 for some of the most cracked gaming performance for the money. Another good buy is the 7600x. Obviously if you have a bigger budget go bigger but those new 3D cpus AMD has released are amazing for VR and general gaming performance
I myself have jumped up to a quest pro; PC is still the same, and man, the pancake lenses, screen config, and dimlighting is a night/day difference in visual quality when upscaled.
VRC still runs like poop sometimes just as before but it does look sharper, even at the same resolution, but its my other games where that sharpness really counts; flight sims and fps games o7
Definitely excited for the quest 3 as a more affordable option, definitely seems like it'll be a direct upgrade over the quest 2 as the quest pro is the best PCVR experience I've had so far. Mmm pancake lenses o7 also looking at a CPU upgrade myself
i miss the day when all avatars were not like 200mb and has insane high quality shader and textures. I used to have all avatars turned on but rn i had to hide people's avtar cuz its too laggy for me to load
Even just the worlds at this point is making it laggy, cause of all the props they add and all the polygons in the world
4090 nice but we are still not there there yet, there are still room for improvements.
Sometimes the world variants and their optimization also infringes a lot on the fps, and obviously the avatars there, so really if one has the money for the 4090, Haha it's a nod to perfection.
The 4090 is worth it, but you'll need the fastest CPU you can get. (in terms of single-core-performance)
But it also depends on what you do in VRChat. For just worldhopping and a few people my old radeon 590 was good enough. For DJing in a full party, and beeing in VR for that of course, the 4090 is better than anything else. It have to do stream-encoding, visuals and overlays and support the DJ-tool together with VRC at same time. Sadly that damn thing is so big that no 2nd GPU can be mounted.
Yeah I go to a lot of 40-80 people worlds and it has been amazing every time, especially in dj events!
quick note
cpu gpu and ram is heavy for vrchat,
dont go below 16 gb of ram.
i suggest a good cpu which if u have am4 motherboard the highest i believe u can go is ryzen 7 5800x3d.
i have rtx 3080 and ryzen 7 5800x3d. ram 16gb. gonna be upg to 128gb of ram,
I'm seeing so many familiar names in the background of your videos. You wouldn't happen to be a member of VP would you?
haha, possibly
i have a crappy £190 gpu and i run vr chat on high settings almost perfectly obviously laggy in some world with alot of people but still im sure you could run anything with just a 4070ti
4090 for this is absolutely overkill
I may or may not have a few 200mb+ avi's.
I have a rtx 3080. VRchat can very quickly eat through the 10Gb of Vram
Definitely! I've on occasion have seen 21gb of VRAM being used with my actual Ram hovering around 25gb usage
vr chat is more CPU and RAM intensive also a good and fast nvme drive is worth for vrchat then justa decent gpu that can handle 2k gaming is good to go
What was the gpu usage from process manager? My 3080 shows 50%
Mines not great, waiting for the 7900x3D launch this 28th because I'm an AMD fan.
@1:25 what club is this?
Hi. I 100% agree with you, I did initially get the 7900 xtx for the exact same reason. yes it does overheat, stutters ,crashes allot with just slightly better FPS than my previous 3080.. I eventually bit the bullet and got the 4080. I understand the 4090 is in a totally different class but the experience was 100% better. Hi FPS lots of AVI's huge improvement over the 3080 I had previously . Definitely better than the 7900 xtx. I don't like NVIDIA as a company but I have to admit that the 4080 experience made me regret getting the 7900. I hate that Nvidia makes such good cards and drivers. After using it for 3 days . zero crashes. sure it may still happen and I do occasionally hit the 16mb vram limit but I don't notice it. As for the 7900 XTX. I sent it back. they claim they want to test. If they fix it and refuse to refund me . fine I will sell it for MSR. I don't want to have a card that may age like fine wine and only be usable in 6 months "Maybe"".
Glad you finally got a good GPU for VRC, it makes a world of a difference when it finally does happen even if through trial and error!
yeah, for some reason AMD GPU's tend to always have some weird bugs, especially when it comes to VRC. Getting a 3090 made me skeptical because there were so few issues, I couldn't shake the feeling that something was going to go catastrophically wrong but it's been great lol
@@ethownzbh From what I understand, most VR games are made and tested with Nvidia GPUs, so AMD GPUs are more likely to have issues in VR.
bro im never buying amd gpu again daily fking crashes cause you cant run 2 monitors with diffrent refresh or res and dogshit vr support needed to downgrade drivers for it to work and just bought a mining card for 500 and its already better than the 6900xt and no one talks about this shit
I have an 3080Ti and an Ryzen 7 5800x3d its way more than i need for VRC, If someone has an avatar of more than 200MB, it is a crasher or simply does not take anyone into consideration. Like NOBODY or hardly anyone in VRC has a 3080 or even a 4090. For a person to expect from you that you need to invest YOU more than $2000 to see their avatar is very selfish and therefore I am NOT going to load their avatar. At this point I am very very used to going one by one showing the avatars. It's a bit tedious but it's just not worth ruining your experience for a crasher. Also limiting avatars to 50mb is a good idea, so part of the filtering process is done by the machine for you. Don't get me wrong, I have also done the exact same thing as you and YES VRCHAT looks AMAZING when there is no cap in play and you can see EVERYTHING. But since the EAC implementation we don't have the super specific tools to finely filter people's avatars.
What are you upgrading from? Did you have a 3090 before?
I had a 3070Ti before but I did not win the "Silicon" lottery and my previous GPU hated VR for no apparent reason
@@VirtualWeeknd Are you sure you didn't just have driver settings enabled that screwed with vr rendering? there are so many possibilities of settings in geforce experience or the nvidia control panel to set like 4x supersampling or 32x MSAA or other dumb stuff.
a 3070ti should never struggle with vrchat unless something is catastrophically wrong, and if it ran other games fine, then it must have been the settings.
how much fps
lol one of their chrome tabs says "can you purchase a midget" thats wild
Sadly I still have great issues using my 4090 in vr as I need many steamvr restarts until I have no graphical glitches, broken audio or system freezes. 😬
I am thinking about reinstalling my whole OS just to test if that solves my issues as I already tried every driver reinstall method that I know of... And if that doesnt work I guess the gpu goes back to asus for a replacement or something ,_,
Sorry to hear about that, yeah sadly it’s kinda like a silicone lottery getting a good gpu for VR
switching from a 3070 to a 3090 was like a 2x increase in framerate on my quest 2 (supersampled to about 2500x2600 resolution). But I can't justify a 4090 after upgrading to the 3090. I'll wait out the 5090 and use that money for a better headset instead. My friend has a 4090 and he only gets a few fps more than I. I think once you hit 3090 and beyond, vrchat is going to be CPU limited. And if you're on an index, it probably gets cpu limited a lot sooner due to the significantly lower resolution compared to the quest 2.
Resolution comparison between Index and Quest 2 isn't valid, Index has lower resolution but Quest 2 is artifacted and compressed at all times even when link, their screens look like dogshit. Every other metric Index screen is much better visually.
Quest definitely CPU bounds a lot earlier than Index, especially with the Index taking advantage of DSC which is visually lossless and high bandwidth.
i have a rtx 2080 super and i play without safety settings. everything runs good with 80fps in worlds with almost no player. in worlds with more player i have 30-40fps. soon i get a aorus rtx 4090 master and i'm excited to test it out in games and in vr.
Congrats! I'm happy for you!
Didnt you need to upgrade your cpu too?
I am planning on in the future when the 7900x3D comes out because Unity loves the enormous amount of L3 Cache, and it will be great with the addition of the new DDr5 Ram
u need top tier cpu also, u need a 20gb vram card + best possible cpu
With a 970 I can say I wish I could afford anything higher just so I can be with 2 friends in a world and not have 20 fps
4090 babajee
i always have safety off with my trash ass pc still get 40 fps even on big worlds
2080TI seems to be the same as well if anyone is shooting for that.
Honestly i miss anticrash mods
Try ugrading to 32GB of RAM if you haven't already. With 16GB in huge lobbies I often wind up with a 6~8GB page file on my C drive and sub 30FPS.
Yes, definitely recommend at least 32mb of ram!
@@VirtualWeeknd Haha. Don't forget your Intel 486 too. :'D
totally not my RX6600XT OC TO 3200mhz paired with RYZEN 7 5800X3D with everyone one shown i get between 54-80 fps i use valve index and i have 200% res on steam vr i think vrchat is more cpu pound that why it might be pushing my gpu
If your tight on money, the best thing to do is to update your CPU first then you can update your GPU. Because vrchat effects your CPU more than your GPU.
Can confirm, upgraded my secondary rig to a 5800X3D but kept the Vega 64. 60 FPS consistently in The Great Pug.
I do have avatars hidden after 10 meters though, since I prefer not seeing retards with their 6 gorillion polygon and 2GB VRAM e-boy avatars when i'm upstairs in The Roost, talking shit to Albedo :^)
@@Wasmachineman same I also have avatar set to hide after 10m and also hide poor and very poor and any avatar over 70mb
@@LordPenguinVR Performance Rankings mean jack shit though, -my femAlbedo- the public fembedo is Very Poor because CoconutMilku uploaded the avatar with Mesh Read/Write disabled, and refuses to upload the fixed PhysBones version for whatever fucking reason.
How to fuck are you this underrated.
I went from a rx580 which ran OK, to a 1660 super which ran a little better and mostly was fine, to a 3070ti which now I always have safety setting maxed please show me everything. It's paired with a 3900x which runs at about 10% all the time. And 32 mb of 3600 speed ram. Later I'll get the 5070ti when that comes out
580? DAMN dude
I'm impressed that even ran vrchat
@@Sammysapphira I even built a system with a Ryzen 5700G for my oldest which mostly uses it for sims and such, and i tried vrchat with it, it handled its self respectfully and the only time it had issues was in full 30+ person clubs, in a normal hanging with friends it worked very nice thou not as clear as having a GPU , I think the next series of APU may be well enough when paired with enough Ram.
you may need to upgrade your ram, as 32mb of ram is generally not enough for VRChat. Hope this helps!
Try it in chilloutvr, 90+ fps all day long.
Because basically no one plays it.
Your GPU is probably running idle constantly now, your CPU is your bottleneck, you can get the same experience (or maybe close) with an old GTX 1080. I never hide any avatars and have near constantly 40-60 fps with an AMD Ryzen 5800X3D, 32+GB RAM and a GTX 1080...
I long for the day that GPU’s can combat crashers.
Your gpu isnt going to stop a crasher. Crasher’s dont target your core usage. It crashes due to an overload in: particles, mesh, shadere, etc. causing a unity error, freeze due to overload, or a freeze due to saving your pc from burning up due to being stuck there with a million particles blasting your face all at once :) no gpu will fix that. No cpu will fix that. Nothing can because its not something that can be fixed with new pc components
Thanks for that Video! I want to buy a rtx 4090 but wasnt Sure If that would Help or If i need a i13900k or what ever my PC needs to handle better VRchat. My current system has a i7 11700f and a rtx3070. Do you think i Just should buy a rtx 4090 or Just uprade one of the Things in my PC?
My Pcs Name Predator Orion 3000 i7 11700f rtx3070 for more information
Well Sometimes i still get crazy lags but a better PC should Help.
I subbed and liked for that Video. Pls one more Video of playing VRchat with rtx 4090
Yes, I will be doing another video but this will be with a new CPU (7950x3D). But I wouldn't buy a 4090, I would go for a 3090 or 3090Ti because the only actual advantage is the VRAM and you save about $800 that can be used for other parts.
I think spending more than $0 on VRChat is not worth it (same sentiment for VRC plus). VRChat runs fine on GPUs with 6GB of VRAM, near perfectly with 8GB and top notch with 12-16GB. Most modern-ish GPUs will work fine. If you want a 4090 for other games, and happen to play VRChat, go ahead. If you want a 4090 just for VRChat, I think it is time to reevaluate what life choices brought you to this point. That is only my opinion though. I play with a 3070, with maxed out settings, on a Reverb G2. I have the show avatar proximity on so I don't render avatars I won't be able to see anyway. I never see lower than 30fps, and get 50-60 on average. I don't like showing all avatars because in my opinion, I don't need to see something I'm not interacting with.
Edit: Quit trying to flame me in the replies. You're all missing the point. SMH.
Quite frankly, I don't care if you have a better GPU that me. I don't care that you are stubborn and uncompromising, and only think a game is playable when you are maxing your refresh rate.
Obviously a 4090 is the best GPU for VRChat. All I'm saying is that in my opinion, if you buy a 4090 just to play VRChat, non-professionally/casually, it is a serious waste of money.
u a real one for this
"Reevaluate what life choices brought you to this point"
I can afford a 4090, you can't. Plus you literally use a Reverb.
I win, let's goooooooooooo.
@@stephyhasnotificationsoff4325 I can afford a 4090, and I hate the Index. You can't win something that is not winnable. As a stated, it is my opinion. I value image sharpness. Whether or not you can afford a 4090 isn't the point. It's that you'd get a 4090 just for VRChat.
@@Fearless13468 You know you can significantly increase the resolution of the index in steamvr settings?
@@ethownzbh Supersampling only increases the render resolution. That will only get you so far. More physical pixels is needed for a substantially sharper image. Nomatter how high you push the supersampling, the Index will only ever physically display a resolution of 2880x1600, or 4,608,000 physical pixels. The Reverb G2 has a resolution of 4320x2160, or 9,331,200 pixels, or 4,665,600 pixels per eye. More pixels in one eye than the entire Index display. The Index doesn't compare to the display of the Reverb G2, refresh rate aside.
I'm friends with so many of the people on the background of this video and it's so cool seeing them
Honestly the reason i have avatars off even if i was in pcvr or quest, is that i dont want to see all of the ugly humanoid avatars with the same features -w-
Edit: this also includes like, meme avatars and crashers. I wont activate em.
still throttled by the cpu
vrchat devs should honestly optimize thier game
Not just them, damn creators too
@@julian-vanilla8379 truee
It's 100% user made content
This dude is coping with the fact he expended 1700 dollars on a RTX 4090
Awwhhhh I want one nowwww ! hahahah XD
The devs (READ: JANNIES) did this to us. Glad I got out after the turd EAC update because it clearly hasn't gotten better. 💥🖕My RX 580 Red Devil handled up to 60 people in Ghost Club like a champ but every time I was looking at an nVidia only fuzzy treat, my frames would tank to ~12. Inexcusable garbage code and backwards priorities make for a bad social game. A vanilla 3070 should have been the correct answer for high frame VR experience. Every new product launch we revisit this topic of VR performance but we don't have a proper VR benchmark tool and VRC is not "VR" but the most aggressive equal to a VR benchmarking tool that we will ever get. Three full team green generations that feature DX12_2 *and raytracing*. Who failed? This one isn't on nVidia.
i heard that vrchat loves vram from your gpu
Yes! I've noticed my Vram usage is about 16gb usually up to 21gb on rare occasions although I'm not checking constantly.
@@VirtualWeeknd my gpu doesn't have much vram but i do have 32gb ram but still lag.
Some map with high lightning effect and if i take a picture with a high resolution the game will crash.
Sometime i switch to desktop mode to click record on OBS studio and came back to vrc and the whole game starts lagging
@@OnosakaKoike bruh...its a 24GB card what you mean dont have enough :DDD
@@twistedsoul6164 not everyone are rich enough to get a card with 24gb.
Mine only 8gb
You wanna buy one for me too? (Jk) :,) Im poor as i used money on fbt and waiting for new controllers lol
i think 4090 much bette computer upgrade cpu ryzen 7800x3d
Let's wait 6 more years for Nvidia to release RTX 7090, then everyone can play VRchat to its fullest...assuming people can afford it. 😆
Edit: By that time, we will also get much better CPU as well. Maybe CPU with up to 8-9 GHz.
i can do this with my 3070
well, not to the same extent
Broh I'm on a 2060 no safeties ultra 6k at 90 tf you doing optimize your windows install mybrih
How do you optimize your windows?
@@jasonm.8749 download more ram
bro is asking to get crashed or have something obnoxious flashed on his screen
Funny enough I actually did have to ask someone to try and crash me just to test it out!
I'm going to have the unpopular opinion that the money for frame increase over other more reasonably priced hardware is definitely never going to be worth it unless your someone who makes BANK.
For the 4090 MSRP most people could afford a gym membership for years, or reinvest in teachable skill classes for better work, or hell even just a down payment on a car.
vrc is a cpu intensive game not gpu lmao
Haha he bought a shitabyte 4090 for vrc
Literally should have just bought a 3090
Hah, you weak mortals, to copy only a fraction of my power, quest 2, all avi's shown, and no safety settings.
me playing vrchat for 10 years: 🧦🌈🐱#FemininityPride
cool to see that even with the most expensive, powerful and newest gpu vrchat still runs like ass