Charge any LiPo with one adapter | PARALLEL CHARGING TRICK
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Here's a trick that will let you charge any LiPo that has a balance plug, without needing a specific adapter. All you need is a parallel charge board and you're good to go.
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Ohh, I see what you did there! You plugged a thing into another thing 🤯
It basically switches the connection between the balance and the main from the battery to the board. NBD! Oops it melted
@@williwonti Yeah but it won't work with the new firmware in the flux capacitors 😂😂
Joshua, there are a lot of great FPV related channels out there that I legitimately enjoy. They do a great job and I am not trying to take anything away from them. So many of them are simply assembly line channels where they review drone after drone after drone. Your channel is one of the few that truly tries to put real substance in each and every video. For that, you deserve a real big Thank you and appreciation for delivering content to your channel. It truly shows that you put a lot into your channel.
This is one of those things that I will not be able to do without from now on. You're the man Josh!
Thank you! That's pretty slick. I'll have to give a try
Just implemented this for charging my 18650 2s goggle battery w/o a barrel plug adapter. Life saver!
I never thought about that! Thanks JB!
using the right adapter you can charge any size battery. I like this idea.
Okay, I admit, I learned something today! Best jack of the week!!! Thanks for sharing this one JB!
That is one good trick! Never thought of before, but I understand how it works. Nice!
Yeah, this is one of those, "why didn't i think of that" moments
The man with the plan. Thanks JB!
Nice start of a vid Josh aaaand informative!
Great video!! I LOVE THE HACK!
Weldone !
About charge boader, how to use 1S to 3S-Plug-Parallel-Charger-Board to charge several 1S lipos in parallel ?
On 1S lipos there are only balance plugs and no XT30 connecter to plug as well
Wow this is genius
Gonna make some asap!
Thanks!
Can we just get you to release one of your boards in 4s xt30? Please!!
smart idea, nice work
Better then the slap-chop guy and even more practical!!!
🥃Cheers🍻
Good information. Thank you, buddy
That is truly clever my friend I had know idea
Nice video man, thanks! I AM a bit confused by this because you gave the main leads AND balance leads connected from the board to the charger.
What exactly do balance leads do in a charger? Are they also pushing current or are they drawing current?
If the charger normally draws power through the balance leads to balance the cells, and if you have the main and balance jumped on the board, and the charger is pushing current through main leads... Wouldn't the charger just draw back everything through the balance plug?
This has obviously worked for you, so I'm trying to understand where my thinking is wrong. Thanks!
How have I never thought of this before? It’s incredibly simple and clever
Dont do it, it's really dangerous you can't balance charge and it can overheat really quickly
Gear2News ! In fact you can balance charge. And it will not overheat if you charge at low enough amperage.
Someone's gonna burn down their house.
There are airsoft pistols that charge the lipo via the balance connector. You charge via usb cable.
No. It's safe. But the current should be less than 2 Amps, because that's the max the Polyfuse will handle before tripping.
Thank you Josh, I made one of these after watching your video to charge 1s batteries on a parallel charging board. It has 1s connectors, but won't charge 1s without that hack, because ususally 1s batteries don't have an extra balance lead / discharge lead... :-D
OK thats sick WHY didnt i think about this before!
Careful!! Thats how i shorted out my JB balance charging board twice.The XT30 plug touched the pins on the board the traces fried but the fuse did not.
Same thing can happen if you plug in the balance lead wrong by accident, I once put the 4s lead into the 5s position and fried the traces on mine 😐
I put one upside down also vaporized wires to battery💥
I genuinely learned something today
Nice job..I get it too.
LOVE THE SEGUE!!!!!
Nice I like it! Where was this idea when I made a bunch of xt30 to xt60 adapters?
You're smart! Those are way, Way better than this hack!
@@scootroter4859 I would have been back in the air faster and not used up all my spare connectors with this hack. Plus I don't charge my tiny packs at a high rate so this would be fine for me. Now I hardly parallel charge anyways so it doesn't matter.
GENIUS!!! THANKS
Brilliant!
Could you run 2 3s boards on a 6s pack, or 2 5s from one 10s? Curious for capacity's sake.
6s packs have a single 6s connector. For 8s, it would have 2 4s connectors. 12s would have 2 6s connectors, etc
Nice hack!
Can I charge my 2s batterry like this way ? I hv a qx7 nd I hv lion battery which has only balance Charing port .... It's hard to make the battry charge for me ... After see yr vedio one question came in my mind can we use this method to charge my 2s lion battery ? All paralal charging bord will work ? Or this paralal bord work only sir ?
Smart. Nice.
4s plug for 4s and 6s plug for 6s and 3s plug for 3s. the main leads are at the end terminals of the batteries. i see what you did, great idea!!
can you just used a xt30 balance board on a charger with xt60 output connector
Your infomercial kick ass !!!
So what is exactly a low charge rate? If I plug in 10 batteries and I’m having to charge at a smaller rate. I can charge 5 at a faster rate and charge the same amount or batteries in the same amount of time no? I always charge at 1C I’m a bit confused here.
Nice. Liked your video..
Nice and easy hack! Why did i not came up with this😂
I’ve learnt something today
So I have recently run into issues with balance charging my Fatshark 2s batteries. One is the original, and the other is a 2s Tattu 2500mah. I made an adapter a while back that plugs into the non balance lead with a XT60 on the other end and had a good experience. I was away and took a couple months off flying (total sack religious I know), but now neither is supported in my ISDT Q6pro. Will this hack work if I use a 4s balance plug soldered to a XT60, or do I need a 2s balance plug? I have a 6 port balance board with 2-6s balance ports. BTW, thanks for all you do. You have helped engage a few of us Canucks up here for the love of this hobby
Can you do multiple batteries at one time?
Hey can u do a remapping video for the newest beta flight one of my motor sensors are not working and I’m still new plz help
You mean like this? czcams.com/video/QeuSq71pYF0/video.html
Could i chrage my radio Ni-MH also this way?
I use something simmilar for my selfmade LiIon goggle batteries where I didn't install an XT60 (Aomways have an adapter that accepts 2-4s balance leads instead of XT60s)
Rock n Roll JB!
Was that 4S to 4S only? Could you use the same 4S adapter (Positive XT60 to positive balance pin and negative XT60 to outside negative balance pin) to balance charge a 2S or 3S through their balance lead, assuming you chose the correct setting on your charger, or would you need to make a 2S and a 3S version to charge those batteries?
This is the kind of question that might indicate you should be careful about using this trick. Proceed with caution.
This works nicely if you are all 4s and using a JB board, but wouldn't you have to have a special plug for each cell configuration with a standard multi-cell board? For example, if I wanted to charge my Taranis or fatshark batteries with a 2s plugs.
Josh you need more of these intros! XD
I like this outro music, it doesn't make me feel sad.
You can also fuse the adapter so that it calls it quits before the parallel wires do
I have a similar problem I have 4s xt30 packs but my xt30 board does not do 4s so I ust the balance section of the xt60 board and the main power from the xt30 board 👍👍
The Rock music made me look if there is a video playing in another tab!
I made 6 xt60/xt30 adapters and charged it the normal way😁👍
Can you do more than one at a time? I assume if they are little toothpick 2s then it would be slow enough
You can do more than one at a time, but your total charge rate maxes at about 2 amps.
@@JoshuaBardwell thanks. My toothpicks are 2s 300 or 400mah with xt30. So could easily do a couple at and not pull many amps
Hey there 👋 I am very new to fpv and just started practicing in liftoff. One thing that keeps me from starting to build my first quat is lack of knowledge about the right charger. Can you recommend a cheap but good charger?
Look at the ISDT lineup
PowerScissor Hey 👋Thanks a lot. I will have a look for it later.
Hobby mate amazon same as took kit but cheaper $40
All my product recommendations are at www.fpvknowitall.com. I think the Hobbymate D6 Duo is the best all round charger for a beginner today.
Joshua Bardwell Hey thank you so much! And thanks for the Link to the homepage. Hopefully I can buy this charger for a good price here in Germany :)
Greetings!
Exellent Intro !
So I can charge, but I can't discharge using this method?
Can I storage charge still? And assuming not storage discharge though.
You can do both.
LOL...... mind blown! sort of but more important than learning something today you make me laugh...and learn
Need help out there if anyone can help. I just replaced the eachine wizard x220 2205 motors and replaced with emax rs2 2206 2300kv motor which should of produced almost double thrust but seems slower now oh and I'm running cyclone 5045c props and a 4s 1300 battery. Any thoughts?
Bummers. Not much u can do except try different props. Are the electronics stock? Is the battery in good condition? If the components can handle it a higher voltage battery will give u more power. Best thing would probably be to work on flying smoother instead of faster until you get a faster rig.
How many amps do you think is safe to avoid burning the traces in the parallel board?
2 amps or less is my recommendation.
@@JoshuaBardwell Thanks! You saved my house from burning LOL very cool thing I have so many batteries with different connectors it was a pain. I made this adapter with a little modification: added two 2s balance plugs, one for each cable, and then removed some of the plastic guides with a razor blade. This allows me to change positions for 2-6s and I can even have all slots free to fill with batteries, your advice changed my life! 😂
How does your poly fuses handle this, over a duration of time? You can only charge at about 1 amp, right?
Correct. You must keep the amps low in order to avoid burning up the balance wires and triggering the polyfuse.
my airsoft guns take crappy lipos with this ancient connector.... ty for this brother
So, this is cool and all, but would it be safer to make a xt60 to xt30 converter? Wouldn't that handle more amps than the balance leads?
Exactly! Short cut hacks with lipos may not be the best idea! ;)
Yeah unless you dont have any extra xt30 connectors on hand
I didn't have any XT30 at the time. Also, this hack works for all plug types as long as the battery has a balance lead.
Too late, I swapped all my XT30's for XT60's, damn.
What I would like to know though, is, how much higher a charge can you charge your batteries.
I have always charged at 1C but I see you went a little higher on that one...
Anyone know the approx AMP load that the balance wires can carry safely? If its charging across multiple wires I'd think alot more than 1A could be used?
I've tested them at about 2-3 amps without issue but I wouldn't go higher than 2 to be safe.
Hello Josh, sorry to take this question out of content here. I’m having an issue with connecting my crossfire to my DJI NAZA v2. I am using the Terran plus with The diversity receiver. I have set up the crossfire in the configurations and also set up mixing for flight modes and feel safe. Yet when I go into the NAZA software I get no response from the switches or gimbals. What am I doing wrong? Your help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Mike
Does the NAZA flight controller support Crossfire protocol? That would surprise me.
I think the NAZA needs either SBUS or PPM input. The Crossfire receiver can be configured to output either of these.
It does not support crossfire. But like you said it does support sbus and ppm. If I setup my crossfire to us sbus or ppm will I will be losing functionality by not using the crossfire protocol?
You will have higher latency but latency isn't really a huge concern for the type of quad that typically uses a NAZA controller.
did this before for charging 1S tiny whoops cells on a 3S xt30 pcb
not sure if I'm being 'that guy' but couldn't you just make a XT30-XT60 adapter?
Yup! But if you want to charge 5 batteries, you need to make 5 XT30-XT60 adapters, or one of these.
Why not just use an XT60 to xt30 plug and keep balance feature too?
you keep the balance feature
Simone Castello he did?
@@xaralampos1959 He indeed kept the balance feature. Taking the outer-most connections from the balance lead that he soldered to the xt60..... Those 2 leads connect the entirety of the battery like the main leads do
Its next weekend 👍🏻👍🏻 i watched the video again and figured that he did. Thanks
Similar to what I did to charge my fatshark battery pack with the balance lead :) But I made a cable that connects an XT60 between the postitive and negative of the balance lead instad of to the balance board :)
Niiiice! :) Why I didn’t get that hack earlier... )))
Best intro 2019
What about for a 2S battery same cable work?
Yes with a 2s balance plug.
🤯🤯 If i have let's say 6s battery can i have a 4s adapter like yours? Does it matter?
Yes it does matter, DONT charge 6s with a 4s adapter. What bardwell did is risky and will take a lot longer to charge. Think safety 1st. Always use proper connecters and charging setups. Improper charging can damage your batteries and or charging equipment. Stupid charging can cause fires.
awesome
How does this affect the polyfuses on your board? Does running higher current through them affect the life span? I have been doing this for my google and transmitters battery only discovered it recently. I have so many adapter from before doing this.
You need to stay under about 1-2 amps total.
@adirkahsharo3607 You will only be able to charge 4 cell battery with this method. I you want to charge 2 cell you would need to use a 2cell 3pin balance connector. However still do not recommend doing this unless you understand what you are doing.
this thing is genius
The spec of the balance lead connector says 3 Amp, I love to have chargers support charging over the balance lead only, 3 amps is all you need sometimes.
And itll balance charge and see the voltage of each cell!?
I want a 2s xt30 parrallel board for toothpicks
i've actually done this before. also set up a series adapter to charge multiple whoop batteries at a time. great hacks if you know what you're doing and watch your batteries carefully
Nice infomercial
what about the balancing? is stil balanced??-... and what about the charger taking off the Bateriy to balance, but the parallel putting in the balanced leed? .
Sorry for the bad english...
Yes it's still balanced.
Cheap toy chargers I have owned only charge through the balance. Charging for me on new quad build will be the first time I have ever used main leads to charge! In fact it was news to me that you even connected the xt60 or deans at all in charging lol
well, my charger wasn't cheap, but its doing loading through balancers only as well..
Does it still balance the cells?
Yes
Music rocks!
The ground and last positive of the balance lead is parallel to the discharge lead. Its the same thing. So if you push your charge though it, when it goes to balance, it shuts off charge and than discharges the pack to an equal point... This is not magic, but it's a great tip.
Unable to do, operation invalid with isdt parallel board
so can you charge up to 1c, parallel charging multiple same type of lipos with that trick
Basically, keep the total charge rate under like 2 amps or you will over-load the wires.
That is one WEIRD TRICK for charging a battery. Do more mock infomercials ! It's great.
I don't have That charger myself.. BUT.. can't that charger charge over the balance port itself?
several of my chargers Can.. (so no adapterthingy needed at all)
if your charger can't then this is nice solution indeed :)
Most chargers only discharge through the balance leads, they are not set up to push current out the balance leads.
@@JoshuaBardwell okee.. I checked.. all but one of my chargers can Charge over the balance leads (at a max of 0.5A)
Does that method still balance the cells?
Yes.
Hey Joshua,
I think there is a mew best AC charger with 300w.
HOTA D6 PLUS!
Heard of it?;)
How much current can those copper tracks on the balance board take???
The XT60 traces are rated for 30 amps.
@@JoshuaBardwell , is that the same for the balance traces its using to charge across?
No, definitely not. The balance wires themselves are not rated for high amps. The polyfuses kick in around 2 amps. Like I say in the video: you must charge at a slow rate if you use this hack. This is not a "good idea' for everyday use. It's a hack to use when you haven't got the correct adapter.
@@JoshuaBardwell thanks for the reply,👍🏻, good idea for the micro quad batts, I'd probably connect it to the top of my balance board as it'll split the load across the tracks then, cheers again.
Next week on 'quadcopters for the dangerous', if you can't be bothered to take off props and need to connect to blheli, just throw a sheet over the props, 🤣
SAFETY CONCERN! It seems that this adapter supplies power to one cell only instead of all four! Isn’t it? I wouldn’t cut any of those red wires but soldered them all to positive pin on the XT60 part of this adapter... Am I wrong?
You are wrong. Do not use this trick until you understand more.
If you have a parallel board with 6 XT30 sockets & 1S+2S+3S balance sockets for each, you can charge 12 XT30 2S batteries on it - plug 6 in normally, then plug the balance leads of the other 6 into the 3S sockets, making sure to not plug them into the wrong pins - print my balance port bungs and once installed you can't plug the 2S balance plug into the wrong pins of a 3S balance socket thingiverse.com/thing:3731075 and the bungs can't be plugged into the wrong end of the socket either.
pretty co0ol! :)
Outside balance wires are already connected to the XT30 power leads inside the battery, so no danger to send a current through them instead of the main power wires. Unless of course you do not exceed their current rating.
For parallel charging you typically charge more than one pack at a time. I think he realized this doesn't really scale up all that well, as the one balance lead has a maximum current rating. Might be worth figuring out how many amps the wire can take.
@@DoctorWhom I think this does not scale at all. ;-) The problem is not in the battery balance wires, they should easy handle 1A, but the fact that balance plugs, sockets and traces on the board are not designed to handle high current. JST-XH balance socket is designed to handle 3A, and all the charge current will go through the socket connected by the "interface cable" to the XT60 connector. And also throuch it's traces. So this is the limit.