10 RC LiPo Mistakes & How to Avoid Them
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- Here are 10 common LiPo mistakes we've seen and the remedies behind them.
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Hmmm....
LiPo's are like a relationship.... it has it's up's and down's but once you figure it out...... it's FREAK'in fun!!! LOL
Thanks for taking the time to inform RC users of proper Li-Po usage...
David Marotta hey can you break down more about a battery. If you did already I apologize I’m new and just got really into this.
steven agudelo did you watch the video?
Quick question, is a "Supulse" B3 V2 10w charger all I need for a Zeee 5200mah? Or do I have to get something that has a digital readout to know exactly what voltage the battery is at? Sorry, I just don't understand. Not sure if what I bought is strictly for balance/storage charging...or if that fully charges it & when the Esc5 sguts it off that's the correct amount for storage?
sounds like I have another full time job using these things
I know right!? But nothing else can pack the power in this small of a package. My skateboard will run for over an hour on a 4 cell 7000 mha battery. I CAN'T wait for better battery technology.
Your leg lasts 80 ish years if you disregard street cred
Impressive number of comments in such a short time. That goes to show the amount of interest in this area about LIPO batteries. Good information for everyone to consider. Thank you for your expertise!
Jesus, they’re like a gremlin. Don’t feed it after midnight either.
Ha, I felt like I had a new kid
Jake Breaks and man are people who are not in the rc hobby think they are a ticking time bomb
This had me dying
lmao! very funny Jake
L m a o!
I haven’t used my lipo 6000 mah batteries in 5 years and surprisingly they’re working fine.
Yeah
Did u put it in storage mode
For someone like myself just entering the rc aircraft hobby this video is absolute gold!!
...me too Man...
Great video! I have recently come back to RC and did not use lipo years back. This video gave me great storage info, thank you!
I like to think Brett talks like this when he's sinking beers with the boys at the weekend :) Great vid!
Mmmmm, might need to check some of my batteries that are new but not used and bought some time ago. Thanks for the great video.
Just getting back into RC hobby. Never used labels before. Thank you so much for all the perfect info. keep up the good work.
Finally, a well put together lipo guide. Thanks!
Fairly new to the rc hobby and after watching some horrific lipo videos your segment on the care and use of them is a godsend. Thanks for posting this great advice!!!
Hi frend as a R/C flyer for 40 odd years flying top uk r/c shows for 20 years. and holding many r/c achievements. DO your self a favour and for get lipo batteries and electric models. ECT. You will come on FAR better with i/c aircraft as iv prooven so many times over the last 6 years or so as a R/C flying instructor. With the BRITISH MODEL FLYING ASSOCIATION.
All the best in your pursuit in our great hobby .
Informative video! But batteries, no matter what kind, should be recycled or at least be collected seperately, NOT dumped in a landfill.
RC DEPENDANT or ocean
Or fireplace
or your stomach
I appreciate his notice, since some countries have no battery collection protocols
100% agree. He should update that part of the video.
Thanks a lot for this. I'm getting back into r/c again and have never used lipos before. Nicad and nimh never needed any special treatment but hearing about lipo fires and puffing had me concerned. This helped a lot. 👍
Sorry FREND as a R/C flyer for 40 years and flying top uk shows. Take the WORRY away from this great hobby and just chill and enjoy this great sport. FLY I/C ENGINES YOU WON'T HAVE ALL THIS STRESS.
ALL THE BEST.
@@maljohn6584 normal battery are safe but l need to see what l can use that RC CAN GO FASTER without LIPO BATTERY
Damn. I’m taking up kite flying instead.
I'm taking up drone flying instead one cell lipos little to go wrong upgrading my rc car was a bad idea not that but evrytime I have fun with it rustler 4x4 vxl I'm afraid I'll destroy something then need to spend another $50-120 to fix it it's an endless money pit I'll buy a mavic 2 and take up drone flying more as an upgrade from my spark any way I know you were joking around enjoy the kite flying 👍🤣
Chaplin Johnson same!
2 string stunt kites are super fun. I fully recommend you do take up kite flying. Seriously My dad bought one and I thought that's lame, then I tried it, his kite is big almost 4ft wingspan it pulled me across the beach. Way more fun than it looks. I
have 3 kites now....
Well I got a Parafoil that picks me up off the ground and I weigh 23,000lbs
Let me introduce your brain and wallet to kiteboarding. Sorry.
Very well explained..... This video is a life saver to those new to this wonderful hobby. BRAVO..!!!
I needed this education, thanks for taking the time to educate us this technology.
This video answered a lot of questions I had. Was simple and to the point. Thanks
Damn Brett!!!!! My hats off to you, I didnt hear, see or kno that you planted a surveillance cam in my garage!!!! But now since you've posted all my mistakes for the rest of the world to know, I guess I shud start practicing safe-lipo-usage!!! Great vid buddy👍👍
This video is actually so helpful and I would never have known any of this and i would end up blowing my self up. Thanks keep up the great content
Wow, useful information, as someone relatively new to the hobby and also only a casual user I have had batteries that went bad, I just assumed that like other batteries eventually they'll just go bad, now maybe I can prevent issues in the future. Also the charger I had didn't have a storage charge setting so I didn't know that was a thing until I got a traxxas id charger
You've help me out so much thank you for your videos . Currently I'm in a wheelchair n got into the hobby , I love it I even got my daughter's into it
Awh, that's fantastic Jose! R/C is a great hobby for those with mobility issues but can still turn a wrench. I have a friend who is paraplegic from an ATV accident years ago, and now R/C is his love and outlet. It's great for the family too, and a good way to spend time with you daughter. Thank you for your comment and sharing that with us. If there is anything I can do for you, or questions that need answers, let me know!
-Brett
Wish this video was out when I got in to lipo stuff. Great video! Succinct, informative and accurate! TY!
Totally agree, there was a few out when I got in the hobby, and I made the newbie mistake of buying a crap charger, and doing zero research on how to charge. I'm retired firefighter, and back then, still on the job, I was cocky about the lipo danger I had heard a little about, thinking, "hell, I run into burning buildings, what's this little thing gonna do, spit at me." Well I hooked up brand new 4s 1300mah, charging on some quick charge setting I think, and not using the balance plug, because my first quad used the balance plug to power the vtx and camera(old school) so I thought that's all it was for. Luckily I did follow the rule about not leaving them unattended, and I did have it in a lipo bag, albeit a cheap one. Bout 3min later, heard a popping noise, by the time I figured out what it was, the fire was through the lipo bag (on a plastic table), a toy grade drone next to it, and my wall, were not only being impinged by the flames withing in seconds, but actually starting to burn. Big bad firefighter man, was running around like a chicken with his head cut off. Fire extinguisher was moved due to doing a remodel, so while wife is screaming and looking for extinguisher, I'm throwing a big mug of ice coffee on the fire, doing nothing, finally wife finds extinguisher, it was only ABC, but I had a larger than normal one, and lipo was past it's hottest burn phase, so the extinguisher put it out barely. Wish I could post pics on here.
First thing I did after that, was read everything I could find on the internet and watched a bunch of videos, built me a battery bunker with sand bags and put it all in a back room in basement, in the middle of the room, on a concrete table with unfinished walls, two large fire extinguishers, and two smoke alarms. Well, I lied, first thing me n the wife did, was change our underwear, put some fans in open windows to air the place out, and walked up to the local Mexican restaurant and had several margaritas to calm our nerves..lol.
Sorry this turned out to be a novel, didn't think I'd ramble this much on one story, but I was a firefighter for almost 25yrs, and I've seen fires so hot that it melted the paint off one side of our truck from 25ft away. But I have NEVER seen something so small and so innocent looking, get that hot, and put off that much energy, that fast, EVER. So anybody getting into the hobby, this isn't a safety nazi thing where we're just extra careful because we're old farts, this is one part of the hobby you can't mess around with, lipos fires are no joke, be careful all, and happy flying!!
Hey @@sunshynff thanks so much for retelling your experience with the lipos I thoroughly enjoyed your story and the fact that it came from a firefighter made it that much better.
Wow, very clear and informative! I learnt quite a bit from your video in addition to what I already knew. Great narration too. Thank you and keep those videos coming!
For the greatest part, I've found the AMain "tech" videos extremely rudimentary, to the point of being aimed at 'children'. However, this video is not only NOT rudimentary, but it contains EXTREMELY important AND useful information. It would be great if the battery manufacturers would include this info in the packaging, but they don't. So...thank you AMain for a useful, informative, articulate video.
100% agree, I learned all this over the course of some years and it cost me in batteries , wish this info was readily available back then...
Wasn't looking into this for RC purposes but thanks for the info. Helped me figure out what to do with a bunch of old LiPo's
I’m a newbie to R/C cars and batteries. Didn’t know any of this information, batteries are $50.00 plus. A bit expensive to be buying new ones every few months because I didn’t know the correct charging/ discharging procedures. Great informative video.
Things have changed soooooo much since I got into the hobby back in 87. Back then it was all about Sanyo Red or Yellow. That's all you needed to know. If you could afford them you got the reds for stock and yellow for modified. They had different discharge rates. Now i'm like...WTH is going on? I just learned not to store charged Lipos. So I better get out there and drive my newly acquired SC10. Thanks for the awesome video. I learned SOOOOOOO MUCH!!!
I still have and use the Sanyo yellow AA cells that I bought in 2000. 20 years old and still very good! They CAN make good products IF they want to.
Great info for new people entering into the RC hobby.
Can't even express how helpful these videos are.
Very well done, I think a lot of people into rc need to hear this.
Just got my traxxas x maxx,, and I was wondering how to best go about it. Now the batteries are on storage chargeing for the night. Tomorrow, there will be bashing :D Also shout out to kevin talbot, that guy is a legend!
Another great video. I've been an RC fanatic for close to twenty years now and it doesn't hurt for a little refresher every now and again
Great video with tons of useful information. It sure made me happy that invested in matched Spektrum Smart Technology LiPo batteries and charger to make things a lot easier (and safer) for a guy getting back into the hobby after many years.
Thank you Brett Now i pretty much know now just Compalated some times with these Trucks because they have been so Advanced like the Battery Lipos
Good tips, when I find that I need to dispose of lipos, etc. for damage or anything, I drop them off at something like a Batteries+, or anywhere that does safe disposal.
Most 7-11 stores now have LiPo battery disposal. At least in California.
All great points. You're a great speaker bro, very well done.
I have watched many Lipo videos this is the best. Good info things I actually need to know
Can you use a Li-on charger and charge a Li-po battery?
good advise, I´m totaly new to the Lipo thing... was driving Gas and older Elektric RC´s... that helped me alot!
This video would have saved me tons of money if I had watched it 2 years ago. Good stuff!
To the next two years! Cheers.
-Brett
I don't have an RC anything let alone a LiPo battery. But now I am super smart. Thanks!
With the exception of your use of vowels...
Thanks for the great video. I put all my batteries away in storage mode, but here in Canada we can’t fly for months on end in the winter. I’m going to spend the day checking them and recharging them to storage levels. Just to be safe. Thanks again.
Really appreciate this. I’ve only ever had nicad battery trucks before but all the “good stuff” use lipo and I really am worrying about bringing the big batteries in with the care they need. Seems a decent charger does most of the hard work.
That's why i charge them at my enemy's house
😂 👍
IKR same
@@flynnrandall8669 like if it blows up it aint my problem no more
👍👍🐸
Nice
New to the rc world. Great info, thanx.👍👊
Good tips, especially to hear from a pro at A-main. You hear a lot of this and that out there, so it’s good to get something from you guys. Thanks!
Hey Erik,, can you please give me a summary of what to do with brand new lipos that theyve been setting there foe a while like months or pass a year,,,I'll really appreciate it
Brett,
Thank you for these care and maintenance videos on both cars but LIHV LIPO shorties also.
Awesome video man keep up the good work over there this is really good info that a lot of the newcomers to the Hobby need to learn I have a hard time trying to get people to even read the manual to their lipo charger and batteries that they have to have and I usually try to talk them into nickel Metals at that point.
totally different output
Excellent video and some very good information there!
Great video that answered all my questions. I’m brand new to lipo/RC so thanks 👍🏼
Good info. I'm headed home now to balance charge my lipos.
Newer to the hobby and had no idea about discharging the batteries!! They should put a warning on them so us Rooks can figure it out. I lost 2 sets until I figured out what I was doing wrong!! Thanks A Main for the great content as usual!
I’m new aswell. Trying to figure out why abnormal valence port keeps coming up .
Im exactly the same. Wasted 6 batteries so gotta replace em now
Thank you very much. Great video. I needed that.
just starting in rc trucks. thanks for the great info/tips. now off to investigate the best lipos and best charger to purchase
Great to hear you return to r/c! For those batteries and charger, I can offer some solutions. But is this for racing, or to bash and play?
-Brett
I needed this ed cuz Im buying a lipo for the first time. Thought of getting a used one since I'm in a budget but after hearing you talking I prefer not. Great presentation and once again thank you! I leaved a subscribe so I can learn more since I am new on this hobby
Very useful and educational video. But one important comment about your advice number 10, batteries must NEVER be disposed of in your household garbage or recycling bins under any circumstances. 😬
Quick question, is a "Supulse" B3 V2 10w charger all I need for a Zeee 5200mah? Or do I have to get something that has a digital readout to know exactly what voltage the battery is at? Sorry, I just don't understand. Not sure if what I bought is strictly for balance/storage charging...or if that fully charges it & when the Esc5 sguts it off that's the correct amount for storage?
Thank god somebody mentioned this.
Thanks man I just got a new lipo for the first time. Thanks for the information
Great, congrats on picking up your first LiPo. They're great batteries that last a long time with proper care. Let us know if there is anything else we can do for you.
-Brett
I'm old skool and don't have LiPo (yet) but your tips make sense. Thanks for that and besides you got a clear and bright voice. Perfect for this kind of video tips & tricks !! Cheers!
Thanks Sanny! If and when you switch to LiPo and need a hand, let us know!
-Brett
lipo
are great longer run time and more power just some draw backs
This has got to be the best video on Lipo's, straight to the point. Thanks man.
Homeowner's insurance application: "Do you own any lithium polymer batteries?" "Yes." "Insurance DENIED!!"
Noooooooo
Ha. I fly a paramotor with 4kwh of Lipo batteries. (Eight 22,000mah 6S Bonkas). I was still able to obtain liability insurance for it.
Well said A Main!! What a great, informative video 👍⚓😃
here is tip for you and nate abby here is a tip use zip lock back put them in there and zip them up and then take small coolleer with soada can ice pack put them in there i got that from a ama mag and never had problems
Hiiii
Why tf did u put a anchor
the rc saylors!!!!!!!
For me You are some kind of RC God, you really have the best advices, humble owner of Traxxas Summit and Jamara Lipon.
Brett, Really appreciated the info about not storing lipos in refrigerators/freezers too. Didn't know that one; and, have a friend that is doing such. FYI...Got a lot of my previous r/c knowledge from your excellent Kevin J when he was in the Bay Area; but, you are my hero at AMain for sharing your thoughts via these videos. Cheers from a Platinum member!
Thank you Bill! Kevin J is the man and a local hero of ours. We're extremely lucky to have him on our team.
-Brett
Uh. Never expected Lars Ulrich to give me advices about Lipo.
Spektrum Smart LiPos for the win!
100% agreed with everything you said in this video.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
I just got my first lipo because I’ve been on Nickel for most of my rc days. Thanks for the info
Great! R/C cars love LiPo power. Treat it with respect and you will receive the same.
-Brett
Great video, I left one in the car (got really lucky). Came out to the car in Florida after 4hrs in 90F, well it puffed like mad.
Thanks for the video!
I don't think it was the 4 hours of sitting rather the fact it was 90° lipos don't like alot of heat..if it was cooler out you probably would of been ok
@@chriskirby9745 Was the puffing because they were charged and in the heat?
Hard to say but they are temp sensitive.... usually warm cells mean damage
Thank you so much. You've avoided a disaster. Also, I have literally checked every box of your 10 mistakes. What have I won?
You have won knowledge.
-Brett
New to the hobby myself. Just purchased a new balance charger and wanted to know the what and what on LiPos. Found this video and it was exactly the breakdown I was looking for to explain when and how to use the functions on my charger. Highly educational. Thank you!
Great video!
Cold batteries do retain all the energy tho, they just cannot deliver it while they are still cold. So warm them up and they back to full potential.
Great info stuff I already knew and do but great for new people getting into the hobby well explained Brett
And always great to reinforce the storage charge. Makes me want to buy the new thing that auto puts-batteries at storage-charge.
Lipo's: the day electric rc's got more complicated than nitro cars.
eh; nimh for racing were not all that much better, just different. I don't miss the days of bulb light strings discharging; custom matching cell sticks and soldering all connections for a 5-6min run time.
@@Aerogrow I've have a 3s 5000mah traxxas lipo which I have left fully charged on 3-4 occasions for 7 day periods is the battery still safe to use have i just wasted $130 dollars for 10-15 runs I didn't watch videos about storage to much and most recently I didn't use it for 10 days I did use the storage function fully this video says I have done everything wrong should I be buying a new expensive lipo and use it correctly I'm kinda annoyed that I have most likely destroyed an expensive battery.
@@JohnJohnson-hn9fx Should be fine, as long as its not swelling. You are just trying to adopt patterns to slow down electrolyte decomposition, fancy name for the battery breaking down and releasing oxygen and co2. Once battery swells and break down enuff into its base compositions the postive/negative shorts internally and cause a spectualr fireworks display. With good pratices you can get 3 years or even more, bad pratices i've seen them go in a couple months. Most imprtant things; keep bateries in a lipo bag at all times. I melted a brand new losi scte by being lazy once with a questionable battery by leaving in car overnight. The highest risk times are charging, followed by running and then time affter running.
That all said; the battery tech is well worth the headaches; nimh was a nightmare way beyond this with cell memory, high IR and horrible run times. I used to have contacts inside battery companies to get the secret matched cells at 200+ per "build your own pack" during nihm heydays.
@@Aerogrow ok so it's only swelled at the top at the most half a cm should I start charging in a lipo bag incase it blows up and burns my house down
@@JohnJohnson-hn9fx Basically, questionable at this point if its swelling, means battery has started breaking down. If it heats up or swells more, discharge and recycle.
Store and charge in lipo bag; use garage/outside when possible. Consider a risk at this point.
Battery that quick on swelling; check charge rates / balancer and make sure lipo cutoff is set for 3s. Those are the two major lipo killers (overcharging and undervolting).
Great information. New LiPo user and there is lot of info in the video that was missing in the LiPo's documentation
Thank you so much for this much needed information, awesome video. Great job Take care and stay safe.
I balance charge every couple of runs from what I understood when I got my lipos you could use the other charging methods like lipo charge lipo store and fast charge
Amazing Video brother, very valuable info right here. THANK YOU for sharing this mate. much love man keep it going AMAIN!
I've been in the hobby for quite a while, it's good to have a refresher on things that us old heads might get complacent about.
I like your videos man, so informational and to the point.
6 months! Good to know, I was storage chargeing mine every 2
I didnt know about the storage discharge mode. Going to start doing that
Thanks for the information! 👍Good video on Li-Polymer battery's!
Brett the battery science guy!! Nice job Brett!
This video surprised me in how well it was delivered and how factual it was but please please recycle used batteries
Agreed!
I agree, we shouldn't throw away valuable resources. Recycling is way better then destroying more land for mining lithium.
My local Home Depot has a battery recycling bin.. when I need to dispose of them I take them there. Fully discharged
i don't have a cell checker just the 4 lights but the guy in store put in safe shut off time so you are are saying a full Lipo Battery is not good so drain the not right to the very bottom halfway Brett how much is cell checker and you 3. something for healthy batterys??
cause i Already ready did that with 2 of my batterys Lipo of course charged my batterys and left them with all the wires unplugged only for about 4 days tops this stuff they don't tell you in the store i don't think my batterys are damaged cause there's a tec guy across and he checks them once in a while for says batterys are stronge and Good shape
I hate when instructional videos tell you to read about something that wasn't explained in detail. If I could read good I wouldn't be looking at videos. Lol
Excellent info Bret, had to share it on my channel, it's just a great source for newbs & a wicked refresher for experienced hands imo.
Excellent! Thanks for the share.
-Brett
I wish there was this kind of detailing for future german car buyers to know what they're about to get into 😎. Great vid bro 👍🏻
Alright I listened to the whole shebang; I consider myself educated in handling my LiPoos.
Now onto using the LiPoo.....
My oldest lipo is from 2011... and its still good, despite having had years of heavy use and lots of fast charges.
It also has years of non use, stored at a full charge, no problem at all.
What is important is not take the volts to low or to high, and do not short out a lipo...
And if you loose a cell, only dispose of that cell, so many throwing out perfectly good cells...
How do you just throw out one cell? rip the lipo apart or what!??!
@@ELValenin 2s is a two cell, 3s is a three cell and so on... and that is basically you have 2 batteries(cells) connected in series each typically having 3,7 Volts that equals 7,4 Volts for a 2s Lipo...
@@herbie5263 yeah I know that, but do you leave the broken cell in the lipo and just use it as for example a 3s instead of a 4s or do you unsolder it and take it off? How do you do that with a hard case pack?
@@ELValenin Well first start with disassembling it (try not to damage any cells, and always make sure to know how to assemble it back again, when ever you tearing apart something) than you will see for yourself what to do ;-) There are many possibilities, but I dont think you would want to carry around that extra weight. Second: there are some rules you have to follow when making the conversions, you cant just pull one out and leave it like that. Maybe the most convenient thing to do for a beginner is to just use the remaining good cells as a three one cell batteries. Making a 4s to 3s conversion will require a new balancing wire. Try google for schematics how to connect them. I am sure there are many CZcams videos on how to make a conversion.
I purchased a lipo a few months ago and haven’t used it thanks for this video
Thanks for the vid! I didn't know what to do with my lipos when I charge them but I don't use them for a couple of days because I heard that they could be damaged that way, so I used the storage discharge so it can be healthy.
The real harm in keeping them in a fridge is when you come home drunk and you take a bite out of one lol
That's the funniest thing I've heard in a while
😀
Good info!! To bad I've did some of these do not's LOL but my batts are still working great. I'll make sure I do not do these mistakes anymore!!!🤣🍻
Me and you both.
the best video i've seen for along while. perfect.
Thank's Brett Very well Put Information 🏁😎👍 LiPo batteries are a game changer in the Hobby and I need this information to not get lazy on how to care for them ✌️😎👍 Having Fun Laughing Playing and RCing
I also added this to my playlists 🤜💥🤛
I didnt know Ivar the Boneless was into Drones, COOL!
Thanks for the info dude I found myself guilty on a few of those things
THANKS BRO. im putting my new battery's on storage now. much appreciated.
Good one. No. 11 could be about LiPo bags and boxes for storage and charging.