How are the shift points on the HO Aisin compared to the 68rfe? Don't like the lag in the 68rfe when it shifts out of 5rh gear too quickly. Does the Aisin remedy this at all? Thx
I have a 2019 with a 6.7with a 68rfe my very first diesel ever I bought brand new with 30 miles on it and I’ve been really impressed one thing that I wanted to note that also changed on the new motor is they went to a larger diameter cylinder head bolts still would love to change to head studs one day but the claim is the larger boats are stronger.
Makes sence 14mm studs are stronger than 12mm same should be true with the new truck bigger is bigger . I dought they've uped the tensile strength over 300,000 to have a stronger unit in same package
Ordered a 2021 3500 HO about 6 weeks ago. Drove Ford, GM, and Ram. The Ram with the adaptive steering drove great and the turning radius was also good. The Ford power was outstanding and it drove pretty good. I thought the inside needed some work to be honest and I think they are going to update that soon. The biggest disappointment for me was the GMC Denali, the steering wasn't as smooth as the other two and I thought it was going to ride alot better but it didn't. The retractable running boards are too close to the door to help. The Ford and GM do have smooth transmissions for sure. Overall I picked the Ram and the Ford was a close second to me. I thought I was going to buy a GM in the beginning but it sure didn't work out that way. Great video.
How is the transmission shift points on your Aisin compared to the 68rfe, which has that lag when it shifts out of 5th gear too quickly. Does the HO Aisin solve this or feel any different? Thx!
@@cadcamfreak The HO is a little sluggish empty in gears 1 thru 3 but after that it moves very well. The 68rfe is a much smoother transmission and if you are not hauling heavy (under 10k) that would be the way to go. When you put a load on the HO in tow haul mode it works flawlessly. I like the truck feel of the Ram/HO/Aisin to be honest.
I have a 99 2500, 5.9, fass fuel setup that I love. 240k miles. Decided to pull the trigger and get a 22 Tradesman, 3500, 6.7. This review is great. I love my 2nd gen but at 66 I decided to get my "last truck" and do some serious trips with my camper. MOPAR all the way! BTW, the one thing I will really miss is the sound of the 5.9. It sounds like a real truck. :)
@@tater0909 love it. Somewhere around 18mpg ish. But it's got less than 1k miles. So it's not broken in and the sample is small. Much happier with this over my 17. Don't get the offrowd package. The truck is much less jouncy.
I drove a 2020 ram Cummins today for the first time. I am debating trading in my 2019 f250 powerstroke. It has a long bed and is tough to turn. Agree about the storage. The Ford has a storage compartment on top of the dash which is hard to reach. I don’t like it. The ram has storage closer to you. The Ford seems to be responsive. It does have more power, but I wampled the Cummins a few times and it moves. It drives a lot easier than the Ford. The ram steering is more car-like and the turning radius is better
I love my 99' with the 6sp Dana 80 rear 3:55 and has 345000miles on it and outlasted the body. I own a 16' 5500 with my 1st auto since all my other arms were 6sp. I wish I could go back to the 6sp and wish rams would go back to it . Nice video and tons of info!!
I have a 17 g56 as well and it's a beast. Not looking forward to the day I have to get rid of what is likely the last manual transmission truck I'll ever own again :-( Fuckin selling out, Ram!
The exhaust brake controller should also be on the gear shift lever. When you need to downshift for a down grade you shouldn’t have to search for the exhaust brake controller.
Many folks don't find the whisper quiet diesel to be a selling point since most aftermarket mods include removing all the exhaust restrictions such as the cat and dpf as well as removing the turbo silencer...it seems as though many diesel truck enthusiast don't want a quiet rig ?
In my view, it all depends. I like a very quiet engine since I camp, fish, and enjoy nature. If I get to a campground late, I do not want to wake up the others in the campground nor do I want to wake my wife if I've been to town and return late. My neighbor has a very noisy truck which he has "enhanced" the noise level; this means when he gets in late, we end up waking since we hear the noise. To me, quiet is better.
@@yerwrng I guess I'm old then. I don't like the noisy stuff since it wakes up people if I come in late and if I'm camping it will annoy the deer, elk and other critters.
These trucks are amazing but switching to the cp4 has proved to be a major mistake as more and more trucks are seeing the cp4 fail in the 19-20 model years thats why the 2021 now comes with what looks like an updated cp3.
Been a dodge guy since 04. diesels bad transmissions, terrible shift points, hard shifts. Seats are uncomfortable and stearing wheel is not straight on to the driver. Aisin transmission shifts really hard since it came out. Front end ball joints come factory with play. Im completely non biased but i really liked dodge. I recently bought a 2020 F350, my goodness. The power is huge, it feels like a hemi on the highway, the suspension is smooth, no more shaking passenger seat. The 10 speed shifts sooooooo smooth. The height of the truck almost puts you in line with semi drivers. My only hate on the ford is how dam light the steering is. Dodge kept you cent in the road, the wheels always wanted to be straight. The ford steering is so light that the slightest twitch and your darting around on the road. People also say the exhaust brake isnt as strong, it is but if its in 10th it wont hold you like the ram would in 6th. The interior is comparable i suppose, ram really sells you with the big screen though. Im not a huge fan of how the ford screen is, its confusing and messy. Only fords ive ever owned was 70s and early 80s and i dont know how many times ive said i will never own a ford but this 2020 is a beast and i have zero regrets. If i could figure out the dam radio and how to change sirius on the steering wheel controls then id be even happier. Im not some city chump, i know how to drive, i live in the country and deal with 4 feet of snow and hot summers, this truck is superior vs the dodge.....never thought i would ever say that.
Yeah. I thought about trading my older F-350 Lariat for a 2020 RAM. After driving the RAM I was not at all impressed. The seats are total garbage. Seemed like a poorly made truck. I’m going to wait another year or two for any issues to be worked out of the 10-speed TorqueShift.
RAM needs to get better with the exhaust brake. 2020 should of been the year to do that. We need an exhaust brake that will lock up in 1st gear to keep heavy loads under 20mph on steep grades.
I have one. Bought in August. I used it to pull a 53 ft goose neck hauling travel trailer. 2weeks ago in Austin,TX the injection pump came apart and sent metal through the whole fuel system. Dodge still has it. Could be another 2 weeks to a month before I get it back do to parts back orders.
@@TeezleySPT Nope! 2months and 22000 miles. And gave no warning signs. Was going down the road let off the throttle for a red light. It turned green about a block away stepped back on throttle and feel.on its face. Pulled over. Was missing and only idle 500rpm and absolutely no throttle then died and would no restart.
I did it man, solid dodge guy and went with the 350 10 speed. This truck is a beast, only thing i dont like is the light steering vs the dodge solid feeling steering wheel. The power that this truck puts out still blows me away.
CP4 - Rams biggest issue. My 2020 2500 only has 5k miles. Sitting at dealership now for 9 days for a Catastrophic Fuel System Failure. If it hit 30 days I will Lemon it and buy a Ford. Its a LVL2 Laramie and 3 months old.
@@davidbarfield3489 I dont know if you have made your decision yet as you posted the comment 2 months ago, but I will share my experience with you. I currently own a 2016 ram 2500 with the cummins, its got 44,000 miles on it and I havent had a single issue with the truck. With that said, there are things I dislike about it. For one the 68rfe is a ticking time bomb. Its not a matter of if it is going to grenade, but when is it going to grenade. I like the cummins but feel like they could get more power out of it, as in numbers similar to fords powerstroke. Overall, the ram feels alot less refined than the ford. The ford will shift nicer, have more power, and will have an overall better feel to the truck. With all this being said I ordered myself a 2022 f250. It can do everything the ram can do but better, except for the exhaust brake. If you are still looking for a truck I would recommend the ford, or a ram 3500 with the aisin. The aisin still seems to have rough shifts but is a better tranny than the 68rfe.
@@alstuart How different is that from the 08 Dodge? That one is a real challenge since you need two extensions and the ability to bend your arm around the suspension.
@@Harry-zz2oh I have never changed the filter on an 08 Dodge, so I can't compare it to the 2019 truck. The PacPro oil filter relocation kit makes it very easy on my 2019.
I’ve heard a few complaints about the mirrors. What’s your take on them? Also, importantly, you made no mention of fuel mileage. I know it’s not required on the 3/4 + ton trucks, but it is a very important factor in my decision. What fuel mileage would you expect on this truck, not towing? Any idea same question on the Ford with their 6.7 Diesel? Your input is appreciated.
I have an older model (08 Dodge 2500) and I get between 15 to 19 mpg. If I were to delete the emissions stuff, it would probably get better. As for the mirrors: those are the same design I have on my 08 Dodge.
I have tested trucks from the 2020 lineup for all three brands. The trailer mirrors are much larger on GMC/Chevy and the Ford trucks but the Dodge/Ram models are not larger. The other brands trailer mirrors are larger, can extend out or in electrically and have lights as well as turn signals on them. It does make a difference. I also like the cameras which are located under the mirror.
I own a 2019 RAM 2500 with Cummins. Regarding the exhaust brake, I've read that it should be used all the time to ensure the VGT Turbo doesn't seize. Then I hear you say that head gaskets will suffer. Who do you believe???
@@tedbutts6932 yes its a good thing. The CP4 was failure prone and would contaminate the entire fuel system with metal fragments. Ram used the CP3 for years and I believe they switched to the CP4 for the 19-20 model year. They put the CP3 back in the 21’s because they are very reliable and last a very long time.
Glad I’m not the only one shaking my head. Not sure why anyone would buy one of these overpriced old cab trucks with a failure prone 68rfe and a shiney metal producing cp4..
Guy I work with bought a 2020. He watches me add everything i add as injectors, tuner ,turbo etc. And hates that he cant do nothing cause he doesn't want to void the warranty.
A mildly built first gen 6.7 with a built 68rfe will walk a new ram that is stock or mildly built within what you can get away with without voiding the warranty and lol that's probably a concern if you have an $800 monthly note . I wanted a new 2500 but don't want 5 years of payments especially with a Biden Harris administration.
Or limited F350 is very similar with Ram only really having the Large touch screen as a major difference. Ford made a big interior leap around the same time the launched the first 6.7L. Ram seems to have made a similar leap here.
I have an '06 2500 with the 5.9 and 6 Spd Getrag. If I recall the max trailer tow rating on it is 13,200 lbs. Some of the half tons nowadays are close to that. As you said, these new 3/4 and 1 ton trucks just keep getting rated higher and higher. Not sure where it will end. Fun to watch though. Also, I had a '13 3500. The exhaust brake worked well but was factory programmed to shut off below 25 mph. That I didn't like. Some mountain roads it is desirable with a heavy trailer to be able to use it below 25 mph. Hopefully they have that figured out on the new ones.
The hp seems a little low to me. Torque output was on the money. Is that much hp lost through the transmission and drivetrain? I know it's 370 at the crank but I would still expect to see 350ish at the wheel.
I want to pick up a truck to put on a truck camper around 4000 payload. Should I get a diesel or gas? I was thinking about a 2500 HD chassis. Putting a 8 ft aluminum bed. What's your advice. A country girl ready to travel and see America♥️🇱🇷
I have a 91.5 Dodge and I like the old truck but these new trucks are amazing I mean my truck is like Stone Age compared to these new trucks fact is there’s not much difference between the 1969 dodge frame and suspension in mine definitely a major improvement on the new trucks and the whole quiet that engine is is very good the new cylinder block is far superior to mine even though I have a very good quality block and I have a Hamilton can cylinder head but you just can’t beat that new technology problem is cost of ownership and reliability issues in the future there’s a whole lot more things to fail and the cost of getting work done on the truckWould be astronomical I like the new truck it’s beautiful that interior just knocks his socks off but anyway yeah that center consul is really nice but the only problem there is you can’t have your girl sitting right next to you ha ha ha ha well anyway a good job on that review you’re a class act and this guy here really appreciates thoroughbred diesel I bought stuff from you before when I was doing a head replacement and stuff like that on my truck and you did me right very right anyhow I’ll be get more stuff from your Sunday all right have a good day bye
Hello here from texas. I have a question about my transfer case. I have a 2005 dodge ram 3500 dually 5.9l diesel and i put a brand new transfer case on this truck due to my front drive shaft came loose and broke my case. It ripped the vacuum hoses from the transfer case and now i cant find the vacuum harness that goes on there and I don't know how it goes back. Do you have a video showing this and a part number for the vacuum harness for this transfer case? Id really appreciate it and love the videos, iv learned alot here. Thanks 😊
Great review video helped me decide on my purchase I bought this same model and trim, my question has to do with 4x4, specifically 4 hi, I noticed when I go slow in 4 high forward or reverse and wheels turned to right or left it feels like it's excessively making a grabbing and jerking motion...is this normal? I bought it last week and just drove around 1200kms thus far
Everything looks great.except for one little detail. Too quite I need the 12 or 24 valves noise, it is music to my ears. Thank for the review. Job well done again. 👍🏾👍🏾
I just bought a 2021 Ram 2500 Bighorn with the 6.7. Are there any mods out there to help increase the HP and Torque on these, that won’t void the factory warranty? Nothing that will break the the bank.
The HO has different injectors and different compression ratio. The non HO is suppose to have better mpg. Ram is only running the one type of rear axle .. believe its 12.25"
Shouldn’t have any problem with a Cummins but you could never trust the transmission. Friend had a 2011 and 2012 2500, both transmissions blew out multiple multiple times.
Turning on the exhaust brake because we didn't want our veins sticking on the turbo which is a common problem with these vgt turbos. Not because it's "cool" lol sounded silly.
How does the design of the air suspension impact load capacity? I have an old truck with standard springs but I carry a truck camper weighing about 3200# when loaded. I'm looking to upgrade to a newer truck but I'm not sure about the air suspension since it is so new. What do you think?
Supplemental air suspension has been around as long as these trucks have, now that it finally comes as a factory option doesn't mean it won't hold its weight, metaphorically speaking
I have air bags on my Chevy z71 2500 love them, all the way around, won’t have another truck, without them. I was really considering the dodge for that very reason until I saw this video. Air bags yes but no leafs at all! That’s a bad ideal. You get out and compressor quits, no comp, with u extra to add air, or a bag starts leaking, no extra support from the leafs being there and you are very likely dead in the water. I love the thought but should have kept springs too. Most def considering my kit costed $600 Comp and all and I still have my factory leafs, plus I can buy replacement parts cheap. And Dodge wants $1800 extra as an upgrade for it. I want my bags to be extra comfort and extra load just to help out not to be my full rear suspension. I see this now, as a fail by dodge instead of one of the main reasons I wanted one along with the option to upgrade to a 60 gal tank from the factory for $300. Thanks I had looked at the new ones but not under yet. I’d never thought they get rid of leafs all together that’s a fail.
That makes two of us. I enjoy the NV4500 and the sound of the 12v. But.... if I ever find an extra $100,000 in my bank account, I will get that Ram Prospector XL, HD on 40's. But I'll still keep my 12v.
@@sonandsanford4963 yeah I got the same transmission. I have to dump a bunch of money in it to get it where i want it but the drivetrain is legendary and the value appreciates 💪
@@ConTheDon187 yeah old auto transmissions cannot hold up to their deisel engine counterparts. I had 48RE in my first cummins and an E40D in my power stroke both failed.
@@MrSh4des I want to manual swap it at some point but not anytime soon. Its definitely a terrible transmission. Cummins are great, dodge/chrysler on the other hand meh haha
My problem with my 6 that I have a 2016 5500 not an issue with it except the one recall on that clutch fan but my problem is there oil pans they need to make them either aluminum or stainless steel they will not warranty in oil pan 11 hundred bucks to put a new oil pan on my truck because of the salt 93000 miles and if it wouldn't warranty the oil pans go figure $8,000 warranty for nothing
As far as the internal upgrades, we really aren’t hearing anything on common failures at this point. We do know that the CP4 injection pump is no longer on the 6.7, and Dodge/Cummins went back to the CP3 in 2021.
It's Basically 2021 and Ram out hear with 6 speed 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️ it's not to much ask for some extra gears especially with all 3 brand trucks $70k plus tags🏷🏷🏷
Unless it says Peterbilt, Mack, or Kenworth on the hood you don't need a 10 speed(unless you like to hear one shift a lot). Ram has been behind in performance for the past few years. Adding 4 more gears won't help it.
Quick question I'm thinking of buying a new ram 2500 diesel, but I'm curious what they get for fuel mileage ,I do a lot of highway driving to and from work ? Currently in a 2015 Chevy Silverado with 120k miles and the transmission is already shot. Any info would be great Thanks
@@Gizmox79 about the same as my half ton Lol and can't tow or haul as much. Is making a pretty easy decision for me.Its just the price tag that I'm having the issue with.... Thanks again
Well when your that financially stable you take advantage of the credit. Pay 3% or less in interest and put half or less down and pay it off overtime vs wasting money on something that doesn't return. Also when you are in that position you tend to get new cars every 3to5 yrs and with all that mentioned above you are never in negative equatiy when you trade in you should be in positive equatiy and then you use that money for your down-payment on your new vehicle. Last 3 cars I have purchased I have done 0 put of pocket and rollover my equatiy as down-payment and get some cash from dealership to pay for my registration and be positive with equatiy on my new vehicle
What transmission does this have? You know where I am going with this....Dodge issues are the transmissions. Aisin transmissions are good. I heard Dodge was considering the Allison but do not know if they did.
Were you all in Barboursville Wv maybe a week ago thought I saw a truck with your name on it.i have a set of new mopar doors for a 98 and up for sale if anyone is interested
And the big question is have they figured out DEF yet I bought a brand new 2013/2500 first year of urea and basically used it as an around town grocery getter and pulled a fifth wheel to Florida a few times after 30,000 miles it was endless trying to get sensors and such fixed at the dealer once every two months nothing worse than seeing that you only have 200 miles travel time left traded it in 2016 for a 2500 with a 6.4 gas couldn't deal with that diesel no more really sucks it would pull a house down but the DEF was endless nonsense
Changes like a Chinese cummins. Look it up before you hate. Just saying, we have 4 and all 4 have pump issues which threw metal in feul system before it fails. $ 12k if you can get parts, if it dont trash more. Its that cp4. Hate to be pulling load when it fails. Just shuts off, no warning. Dead duck. Yup.
Listening is key. He said “they were the first production truck to reach 4 digit torque numbers at 1000” which is exactly correct. Ram announced their 1000 lb ft of torque numbers for the H.O. and then a few months later Ford announced their numbers for the 2020 Super Duty at 1050 lb ft.
HANDS DOWN - Best break down of the new Ram on the Internet!
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I agree
How are the shift points on the HO Aisin compared to the 68rfe? Don't like the lag in the 68rfe when it shifts out of 5rh gear too quickly. Does the Aisin remedy this at all? Thx
"Box of ammo and a mask" has such a different meaning compared to years prior to 2020.
I have 2021 Powerstroke and a 2020 Cummins. For some reason the Cummins pulls weight much easier. It lays the torque down very well.
Pretty nuts how quiet it is. Lots of innovation... but damn they want a premium for all those bells and whistles.
LOVE my '20 2500 Laramie Night Edition. I miss the sound of the older Cummins engines but the truck is great,drives really well and looks great.
I have a 2019 with a 6.7with a 68rfe my very first diesel ever I bought brand new with 30 miles on it and I’ve been really impressed one thing that I wanted to note that also changed on the new motor is they went to a larger diameter cylinder head bolts still would love to change to head studs one day but the claim is the larger boats are stronger.
Makes sence 14mm studs are stronger than 12mm same should be true with the new truck bigger is bigger . I dought they've uped the tensile strength over 300,000 to have a stronger unit in same package
Still loving my 2001 5.9 2500 haven't a reason to upgrade yet.
I still have my 01 2500 5.9 with 100800 miles on it. I can’t justify spending 73K on a new truck.
You must not live in the salt belt, hardly any 01s left here , most are in the scrap metal yard from road salt damage
@@JohnDiMartino you are correct. I live in Washington state. I think the previous owner kept it undercover.
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I love az got my 00 380,000 and was going strong but right now it’s dead think my vp went out so much fun
Ordered a 2021 3500 HO about 6 weeks ago. Drove Ford, GM, and Ram. The Ram with the adaptive steering drove great and the turning radius was also good. The Ford power was outstanding and it drove pretty good. I thought the inside needed some work to be honest and I think they are going to update that soon. The biggest disappointment for me was the GMC Denali, the steering wasn't as smooth as the other two and I thought it was going to ride alot better but it didn't. The retractable running boards are too close to the door to help. The Ford and GM do have smooth transmissions for sure. Overall I picked the Ram and the Ford was a close second to me. I thought I was going to buy a GM in the beginning but it sure didn't work out that way. Great video.
Are you happy with the truck? I’m on the fence about getting a Ram 2500 or F250?
How is the transmission shift points on your Aisin compared to the 68rfe, which has that lag when it shifts out of 5th gear too quickly. Does the HO Aisin solve this or feel any different? Thx!
@@cadcamfreak The HO is a little sluggish empty in gears 1 thru 3 but after that it moves very well. The 68rfe is a much smoother transmission and if you are not hauling heavy (under 10k) that would be the way to go. When you put a load on the HO in tow haul mode it works flawlessly. I like the truck feel of the Ram/HO/Aisin to be honest.
I have a 99 2500, 5.9, fass fuel setup that I love. 240k miles. Decided to pull the trigger and get a 22 Tradesman, 3500, 6.7. This review is great. I love my 2nd gen but at 66 I decided to get my "last truck" and do some serious trips with my camper. MOPAR all the way! BTW, the one thing I will really miss is the sound of the 5.9. It sounds like a real truck. :)
I don't want a Cadillac, I want a truck. Performance, reliability, and economy off the highway.
Just bought a 2020 tradesman 2500 4x4 in granite metallic. Love this truck
I have one 2017 in that same color
Just bought the same exact truck in Sept ... lovin it ! Lotso torque!
@@wilf5400 congrats man. I live mine as well. This is my fourth ram pickup and I'll never down grade.
Picking up my 2020 2500 in the morning. Night edition in black. Super excited!!!
What do you do for income
Got mine 2 weeks ago
How’s the truck? What kind of mileage you getting
@@tater0909 love it. Somewhere around 18mpg ish. But it's got less than 1k miles. So it's not broken in and the sample is small. Much happier with this over my 17. Don't get the offrowd package. The truck is much less jouncy.
@@technom3598 I’m glad you love it. My 17’ was a rough riding truck and got about 16-17. Towing 10. Looking at maybe a new one next year
Don't forget your Hot Shot Secret EDT & LX4.
Buy a 2021 with the good old cp3 pump , I’ve had to change out several failed pumps / fuel systems
I drove a 2020 ram Cummins today for the first time. I am debating trading in my 2019 f250 powerstroke. It has a long bed and is tough to turn. Agree about the storage. The Ford has a storage compartment on top of the dash which is hard to reach. I don’t like it. The ram has storage closer to you. The Ford seems to be responsive. It does have more power, but I wampled the Cummins a few times and it moves. It drives a lot easier than the Ford. The ram steering is more car-like and the turning radius is better
Don’t get a 2020, get a 2021!! 2020 has CP4 and that is a no go! You want a 21 with CP3 trustttt
the CP3 was such a good pump, I hate when they change something that worked great
I love my 99' with the 6sp Dana 80 rear 3:55 and has 345000miles on it and outlasted the body. I own a 16' 5500 with my 1st auto since all my other arms were 6sp. I wish I could go back to the 6sp and wish rams would go back to it . Nice video and tons of info!!
I'm plenty happy with my 2018 3500 cummins 4x4 with G56 manual tranny. I can pull whatever I want with that beast.
I have a 17 g56 as well and it's a beast. Not looking forward to the day I have to get rid of what is likely the last manual transmission truck I'll ever own again :-(
Fuckin selling out, Ram!
@@downbytheriver501 Amen brotha! I'm never selling mine. It is indeed lthe last of the badass manual tranny cummins ram trucks.
The exhaust brake controller should also be on the gear shift lever. When you need to downshift for a down grade you shouldn’t have to search for the exhaust brake controller.
Just turn it on before u start towing;)
You don’t have to touch it after you turn it on it’s automatic
I have the tradesman package and I love it great truck 2020 ! I really like that dodge left the transfer case shifter in the floor old school!
Consistently excellent reviews!
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Many folks don't find the whisper quiet diesel to be a selling point since most aftermarket mods include removing all the exhaust restrictions such as the cat and dpf as well as removing the turbo silencer...it seems as though many diesel truck enthusiast don't want a quiet rig ?
In my view, it all depends. I like a very quiet engine since I camp, fish, and enjoy nature. If I get to a campground late, I do not want to wake up the others in the campground nor do I want to wake my wife if I've been to town and return late. My neighbor has a very noisy truck which he has "enhanced" the noise level; this means when he gets in late, we end up waking since we hear the noise. To me, quiet is better.
@@Harry-zz2oh quiet v8s and diesel trucks are for old people who can't keep focus on the road if so much as the radio is on .
@@yerwrng I guess I'm old then. I don't like the noisy stuff since it wakes up people if I come in late and if I'm camping it will annoy the deer, elk and other critters.
Best review by far
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agreed, I just bought a 1 ton Cummins, best review for sure
Stick with my good ole 2003 5.9, never go wrong
Until the dash falls off ,the seats collapse and the body rusts out...But at least the engine will still run ...lol
GR8 INFO, THANKZZZ FOR SHARING!!!!
My pleasure!!
These trucks are amazing but switching to the cp4 has proved to be a major mistake as more and more trucks are seeing the cp4 fail in the 19-20 model years thats why the 2021 now comes with what looks like an updated cp3.
Great review, thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
Turbo moved to between 4 and 5 in on road about 17 years ago no? That many 2g swapped ones out there making it seem factory now!
Been a dodge guy since 04. diesels bad transmissions, terrible shift points, hard shifts. Seats are uncomfortable and stearing wheel is not straight on to the driver. Aisin transmission shifts really hard since it came out. Front end ball joints come factory with play. Im completely non biased but i really liked dodge. I recently bought a 2020 F350, my goodness. The power is huge, it feels like a hemi on the highway, the suspension is smooth, no more shaking passenger seat. The 10 speed shifts sooooooo smooth. The height of the truck almost puts you in line with semi drivers. My only hate on the ford is how dam light the steering is. Dodge kept you cent in the road, the wheels always wanted to be straight. The ford steering is so light that the slightest twitch and your darting around on the road. People also say the exhaust brake isnt as strong, it is but if its in 10th it wont hold you like the ram would in 6th. The interior is comparable i suppose, ram really sells you with the big screen though. Im not a huge fan of how the ford screen is, its confusing and messy. Only fords ive ever owned was 70s and early 80s and i dont know how many times ive said i will never own a ford but this 2020 is a beast and i have zero regrets. If i could figure out the dam radio and how to change sirius on the steering wheel controls then id be even happier. Im not some city chump, i know how to drive, i live in the country and deal with 4 feet of snow and hot summers, this truck is superior vs the dodge.....never thought i would ever say that.
Yeah. I thought about trading my older F-350 Lariat for a 2020 RAM. After driving the RAM I was not at all impressed. The seats are total garbage. Seemed like a poorly made truck. I’m going to wait another year or two for any issues to be worked out of the 10-speed TorqueShift.
That voice when you said four cylinder at 2:13 lol
and the 2021's they went back to the CP3 Injection pump I will assume due to high failure
Thank you for that info
Yes and recall on all the ones that are already out there
@@glenparks5175 I have a 2020 and I asked my dealer and they said they haven’t heard of any recall or fix for 19-20 owners.
RAM needs to get better with the exhaust brake. 2020 should of been the year to do that. We need an exhaust brake that will lock up in 1st gear to keep heavy loads under 20mph on steep grades.
Cant you just manually shift into 1st with your exhaust brake?? Thats why i do with my 4th gen
@@jorgeosorio8459 unfortunately it doesn’t work in 1st, even if you manually shift it.
I have one. Bought in August. I used it to pull a 53 ft goose neck hauling travel trailer. 2weeks ago in Austin,TX the injection pump came apart and sent metal through the whole fuel system. Dodge still has it. Could be another 2 weeks to a month before I get it back do to parts back orders.
That didn’t take long. CP3 swap!
@@TeezleySPT Nope! 2months and 22000 miles. And gave no warning signs. Was going down the road let off the throttle for a red light. It turned green about a block away stepped back on throttle and feel.on its face. Pulled over. Was missing and only idle 500rpm and absolutely no throttle then died and would no restart.
@@TeezleySPT will be doing the CP3 conversion just before it goes out of warranty.
Make them buy it back and get an F-350.
Ok Wade
Ram 3500 diesel vs Ford 350 diesel
You have to pick one for yourself ?
I did it man, solid dodge guy and went with the 350 10 speed. This truck is a beast, only thing i dont like is the light steering vs the dodge solid feeling steering wheel. The power that this truck puts out still blows me away.
CP4 - Rams biggest issue. My 2020 2500 only has 5k miles. Sitting at dealership now for 9 days for a Catastrophic Fuel System Failure. If it hit 30 days I will Lemon it and buy a Ford. Its a LVL2 Laramie and 3 months old.
Did you have the old CP4 or updated? And did you end up keeping it
@@StreamMastersPW I had new and got a new same replacement. It's going through a lemon right now
I’m on the fence about getting a 2020 Ram or F250? This will be my first diesel.. so I want to make the right choice. Advice?
@@davidbarfield3489 I dont know if you have made your decision yet as you posted the comment 2 months ago, but I will share my experience with you. I currently own a 2016 ram 2500 with the cummins, its got 44,000 miles on it and I havent had a single issue with the truck. With that said, there are things I dislike about it. For one the 68rfe is a ticking time bomb. Its not a matter of if it is going to grenade, but when is it going to grenade. I like the cummins but feel like they could get more power out of it, as in numbers similar to fords powerstroke. Overall, the ram feels alot less refined than the ford. The ford will shift nicer, have more power, and will have an overall better feel to the truck. With all this being said I ordered myself a 2022 f250. It can do everything the ram can do but better, except for the exhaust brake. If you are still looking for a truck I would recommend the ford, or a ram 3500 with the aisin. The aisin still seems to have rough shifts but is a better tranny than the 68rfe.
For 21 ram has gotten rid of the cp4, went back to cp3 and upped the power to 420hp 1075tq
How many of all if those fancy bells and whistles are going to work in 10 years?
The same amount as any other bells and whistles not on a truck. Nothing is maintenance free
Who Keeps a truck 10 years .....
It is a ram so none.
Any improvements on getting to the oil filter?
No, unfortunately. The oil filter is still difficult to reach. PacPro makes a nice oil filter relocation kit.
@@alstuart How different is that from the 08 Dodge? That one is a real challenge since you need two extensions and the ability to bend your arm around the suspension.
@@Harry-zz2oh I have never changed the filter on an 08 Dodge, so I can't compare it to the 2019 truck. The PacPro oil filter relocation kit makes it very easy on my 2019.
It took me 1 minute to change it. Put a big ziplock bag around it to catch the mess. No issies
I’d have preferred it if they kept solid lifters... I’d rather adjust every 1000-150,000 than have one collapse and start ticking.
I’ve heard a few complaints about the mirrors. What’s your take on them? Also, importantly, you made no mention of fuel mileage. I know it’s not required on the 3/4 + ton trucks, but it is a very important factor in my decision. What fuel mileage would you expect on this truck, not towing? Any idea same question on the Ford with their 6.7 Diesel? Your input is appreciated.
I have an older model (08 Dodge 2500) and I get between 15 to 19 mpg. If I were to delete the emissions stuff, it would probably get better. As for the mirrors: those are the same design I have on my 08 Dodge.
I have tested trucks from the 2020 lineup for all three brands. The trailer mirrors are much larger on GMC/Chevy and the Ford trucks but the Dodge/Ram models are not larger. The other brands trailer mirrors are larger, can extend out or in electrically and have lights as well as turn signals on them. It does make a difference. I also like the cameras which are located under the mirror.
I love my 2019 l5p duramax.....
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Does the passenger power seat go up and down?
I own a 2019 RAM 2500 with Cummins. Regarding the exhaust brake, I've read that it should be used all the time to ensure the VGT Turbo doesn't seize. Then I hear you say that head gaskets will suffer. Who do you believe???
Hey Wade what about the '21, I have been hearing that Cummins went back to CP3...can you confirm that? Thanks brother great videos
Yes, we have confirmed this. The 21’s went back to CP3.
Is this a good thing? I have a 21 and I am a first time owner of a Diesel.
@@tedbutts6932 yes its a good thing. The CP4 was failure prone and would contaminate the entire fuel system with metal fragments. Ram used the CP3 for years and I believe they switched to the CP4 for the 19-20 model year. They put the CP3 back in the 21’s because they are very reliable and last a very long time.
Chrysler has recalled the CP4 grenades on 2019 and 2020's.
It's not a motor. It's an engine.
It's not a sphincter it's a rectum.
Yes electric motors vs combustion engines
Shade tree car guys what can we say 🤷🏾♂️
Glad I’m not the only one shaking my head. Not sure why anyone would buy one of these overpriced old cab trucks with a failure prone 68rfe and a shiney metal producing cp4..
@@JohnDiMartino Pretty soon you'll be towing with the family riksha .
Someone today told me that a friend has burned up two Diesel engines in their 2020? How can one burn up two engines in a new truck?
I don’t know, could it have been something emissions related?
Excellent!!
Many thanks!
I’m on the fence about getting a Ram 2500 or a Ford 250. This will be my first diesel... any advice?
same I've done tons of research and my older brother is a diesel mechanic and I'm leaning towards the Ram 2500
Too bad Ram has 140 less HP than the Powerstroke! Ram has such nice innovations, interiors and looks of the truck...
Guy I work with bought a 2020. He watches me add everything i add as injectors, tuner ,turbo etc. And hates that he cant do nothing cause he doesn't want to void the warranty.
A mildly built first gen 6.7 with a built 68rfe will walk a new ram that is stock or mildly built within what you can get away with without voiding the warranty and lol that's probably a concern if you have an $800 monthly note . I wanted a new 2500 but don't want 5 years of payments especially with a Biden Harris administration.
I have the same exact truck but in Billet silver. I love it
Major leap forward on the interior IMO
@@thoroughbreddiesel my father n law has a 20 Powerstroke lariat and my 20 Ram Laramie blows that ford interior out of the water
Or limited F350 is very similar with Ram only really having the Large touch screen as a major difference. Ford made a big interior leap around the same time the launched the first 6.7L. Ram seems to have made a similar leap here.
@@thoroughbreddiesel the ford is nice with that 10 speed. The thing i hate is the outdated sync 3 . Ram has it right with that Uconnect system .
Ha! I also have the exact same truck in Billet Silver
cp4 huh ... 4th gen prices just went up
Great video!!
Thanks!
Is Dodge/Ram still using an all steel body?
Yes
Dodge? Did he just call that Ram Dodge?
I thought I was the only one. 😄
@Dan & Stephanie unless something changed there hasn't been dodge logos on the Ram pickups in years. Especially since Fiat bought them.
I still have a Dodge; mine is an 08 Dodge Ram 2500 Quadcab 4x4.
Pretty sure the 2021 has the cp3
It does I have a 2021 it does have the cp3!
I have an '06 2500 with the 5.9 and 6 Spd Getrag. If I recall the max trailer tow rating on it is 13,200 lbs. Some of the half tons nowadays are close to that. As you said, these new 3/4 and 1 ton trucks just keep getting rated higher and higher. Not sure where it will end. Fun to watch though. Also, I had a '13 3500. The exhaust brake worked well but was factory programmed to shut off below 25 mph. That I didn't like. Some mountain roads it is desirable with a heavy trailer to be able to use it below 25 mph. Hopefully they have that figured out on the new ones.
I know. The trucks are getting lighter too. I wouldn’t have much “towing confidence” hauling 30,000# down a hill in a 3/4 - 1-ton truck.
The hp seems a little low to me. Torque output was on the money. Is that much hp lost through the transmission and drivetrain? I know it's 370 at the crank but I would still expect to see 350ish at the wheel.
Interesting that Ram appears to have gone back to the CP3 for 2021.
Thank the government for making the refineries produce shitty fuel. Don’t worry, I’m sure with the new green deal coming it will get better.
I want to pick up a truck to put on a truck camper around 4000 payload.
Should I get a diesel or gas? I was thinking about a 2500 HD chassis. Putting a 8 ft aluminum bed. What's your advice. A country girl ready to travel and see America♥️🇱🇷
Of course the answer is diesel. That type of payload you are going to want torque, and that’s what you get with diesel. Good luck, sounds awesome!
@@thoroughbreddiesel Another question. I can get 20% off on GM.
New that is. What truck should I get?
Even though I like the ♈!!
If going off road ever don't buy a GM
I have a 91.5 Dodge and I like the old truck but these new trucks are amazing I mean my truck is like Stone Age compared to these new trucks fact is there’s not much difference between the 1969 dodge frame and suspension in mine definitely a major improvement on the new trucks and the whole quiet that engine is is very good the new cylinder block is far superior to mine even though I have a very good quality block and I have a Hamilton can cylinder head but you just can’t beat that new technology problem is cost of ownership and reliability issues in the future there’s a whole lot more things to fail and the cost of getting work done on the truckWould be astronomical I like the new truck it’s beautiful that interior just knocks his socks off but anyway yeah that center consul is really nice but the only problem there is you can’t have your girl sitting right next to you ha ha ha ha well anyway a good job on that review you’re a class act and this guy here really appreciates thoroughbred diesel I bought stuff from you before when I was doing a head replacement and stuff like that on my truck and you did me right very right anyhow I’ll be get more stuff from your Sunday all right have a good day bye
Thanks! Some nice trucks in 2020.
Hello here from texas. I have a question about my transfer case. I have a 2005 dodge ram 3500 dually 5.9l diesel and i put a brand new transfer case on this truck due to my front drive shaft came loose and broke my case. It ripped the vacuum hoses from the transfer case and now i cant find the vacuum harness that goes on there and I don't know how it goes back. Do you have a video showing this and a part number for the vacuum harness for this transfer case? Id really appreciate it and love the videos, iv learned alot here. Thanks 😊
Great review video helped me decide on my purchase I bought this same model and trim, my question has to do with 4x4, specifically 4 hi, I noticed when I go slow in 4 high forward or reverse and wheels turned to right or left it feels like it's excessively making a grabbing and jerking motion...is this normal? I bought it last week and just drove around 1200kms thus far
yep 100% normal
That’s the locking rear differential. Totally normal.
Everything looks great.except for one little detail. Too quite I need the 12 or 24 valves noise, it is music to my ears. Thank for the review. Job well done again. 👍🏾👍🏾
Love my 12 I just leave the radio off
After 2002 they got too quite. Cannot beat the 98.5 - 02 sound.
I just bought a 2021 Ram 2500 Bighorn with the 6.7. Are there any mods out there to help increase the HP and Torque on these, that won’t void the factory warranty? Nothing that will break the the bank.
Don't know if you're still looking but they have the Derringer and pedal commander. I think it's a modest increase but better throttle response.
@@joshuaquilliam2887 do you have a link?
They did change the transfer case and rear axle in the HO models. HO is a lot more than just a tune change
The HO has different injectors and different compression ratio. The non HO is suppose to have better mpg. Ram is only running the one type of rear axle .. believe its 12.25"
@@i82luz correct, the SO has higher compression. Typically higher compression ratios create a more efficient burn, which we see as mpg increase
@@Chipembackta THE HO HAS LOWER COMPRESSION RUNNING MORE BOOST TO MAKE THAT POWER!
Does the rear airbag improve the ride quality while not towing?
Not really...I have the airbags in my 2019 big horn loaded up longbox and it's a bit rough with nothing in the back/towing
@@ssenger009 thats what I'd heard too but I thought they said otherwise in the video. Thanks!
One thing I like about air bags is when not loaded it rides well not as well with extra springs ride is bad all the time
Carli suspension just entered the chat
Do we get a new cab for 2022?
Shouldn’t have any problem with a Cummins but you could never trust the transmission. Friend had a 2011 and 2012 2500, both transmissions blew out multiple multiple times.
They are really nice looking trucks but a tad out of my price range. I'll enjoy my 05 duramax maybe another 20 years till I can afford this 😂.
Turning on the exhaust brake because we didn't want our veins sticking on the turbo which is a common problem with these vgt turbos. Not because it's "cool" lol sounded silly.
Exhaust brake topic, he is totally off the mark. no cred...
We eagerly await your additional feedback.
How does the design of the air suspension impact load capacity? I have an old truck with standard springs but I carry a truck camper weighing about 3200# when loaded. I'm looking to upgrade to a newer truck but I'm not sure about the air suspension since it is so new. What do you think?
Supplemental air suspension has been around as long as these trucks have, now that it finally comes as a factory option doesn't mean it won't hold its weight, metaphorically speaking
I have air bags on my Chevy z71 2500 love them, all the way around, won’t have another truck, without them. I was really considering the dodge for that very reason until I saw this video. Air bags yes but no leafs at all! That’s a bad ideal. You get out and compressor quits, no comp, with u extra to add air, or a bag starts leaking, no extra support from the leafs being there and you are very likely dead in the water. I love the thought but should have kept springs too. Most def considering my kit costed $600 Comp and all and I still have my factory leafs, plus I can buy replacement parts cheap. And Dodge wants $1800 extra as an upgrade for it. I want my bags to be extra comfort and extra load just to help out not to be my full rear suspension. I see this now, as a fail by dodge instead of one of the main reasons I wanted one along with the option to upgrade to a 60 gal tank from the factory for $300.
Thanks I had looked at the new ones but not under yet. I’d never thought they get rid of leafs all together that’s a fail.
I'll stick to my rickety 2nd gen. I can hop under the hood with some wrenches and a hope and a prayer and I know it will still run no matter what.
That makes two of us. I enjoy the NV4500 and the sound of the 12v.
But.... if I ever find an extra $100,000 in my bank account, I will get that Ram Prospector XL, HD on 40's.
But I'll still keep my 12v.
@@sonandsanford4963 yeah I got the same transmission. I have to dump a bunch of money in it to get it where i want it but the drivetrain is legendary and the value appreciates 💪
@@MrSh4des you guys are lucky I got the 48re and after having it for 4 months it is definitely one of the worst transmissions out there hahaha
@@ConTheDon187 yeah old auto transmissions cannot hold up to their deisel engine counterparts. I had 48RE in my first cummins and an E40D in my power stroke both failed.
@@MrSh4des I want to manual swap it at some point but not anytime soon. Its definitely a terrible transmission. Cummins are great, dodge/chrysler on the other hand meh haha
My problem with my 6 that I have a 2016 5500 not an issue with it except the one recall on that clutch fan but my problem is there oil pans they need to make them either aluminum or stainless steel they will not warranty in oil pan 11 hundred bucks to put a new oil pan on my truck because of the salt 93000 miles and if it wouldn't warranty the oil pans go figure $8,000 warranty for nothing
is the new engine as reliable or what areas are problematic?
As far as the internal upgrades, we really aren’t hearing anything on common failures at this point. We do know that the CP4 injection pump is no longer on the 6.7, and Dodge/Cummins went back to the CP3 in 2021.
Ram need more gear on the transmission Gm and Ford have 10 speed.... hopefully near future get a 8 speed or something
Doubt it. Ford killed Chevy and Dodge both on the Ike Gauntlet. No way would I buy a Dodge after seeing that.
It's Basically 2021 and Ram out hear with 6 speed 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️ it's not to much ask for some extra gears especially with all 3 brand trucks $70k plus tags🏷🏷🏷
@@secretsquirrel8010 I wouldn't buy anything but a Dodge.
Unless it says Peterbilt, Mack, or Kenworth on the hood you don't need a 10 speed(unless you like to hear one shift a lot). Ram has been behind in performance for the past few years. Adding 4 more gears won't help it.
@@gregorykingsley4338 sorry to hear. You must love rapid depreciation.
Do you ever think ram will ever come out with a manual option trans again?
its unlikely, but I think you can get the cab and chassis trucks, like 4500 and 5500's with a manual but I might be wrong
Probably not everyone says how they want it but no one purchases them
@@Ben-sv9op People are funny!
If it came with a 2 speed rear it'd game over
Nope 2018 was last year for all models
What do you think about the 2021 ram??
Quick question I'm thinking of buying a new ram 2500 diesel, but I'm curious what they get for fuel mileage ,I do a lot of highway driving to and from work ?
Currently in a 2015 Chevy Silverado with 120k miles and the transmission is already shot.
Any info would be great
Thanks
I want a 3/4 ton the half ton pickups are all grocery getters now just want something that can tow and hall more
I am getting around 20-22 mpg highway with my 2020 H.O. And around 16 mpg city just stop and go ... obviously this isn’t towing anything
@@Gizmox79 Thank you
@@Gizmox79 about the same as my half ton Lol and can't tow or haul as much. Is making a pretty easy decision for me.Its just the price tag that I'm having the issue with.... Thanks again
I had 2018 2500 and on the road not towing I was getting 21. Be careful if you are going to be towing with the 2500, payload is a little low.
Super nice but how reliable is transmission
Extremely when stock
Not........if you actually use them as a truck.
@@joshszydel8202 the are totally fine stock. Only when you delete and tune it and go in 5th or 6th at full boost do they break.
@@technom3598 had 16 of them. Everyone had issues before 200,000 miles
Ram did it again made the smallest motor in disel
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Can anyone afford to pay cash for a 2020 heavy duty diesel now days? If you had enough to pay cash, would you?
Well when your that financially stable you take advantage of the credit. Pay 3% or less in interest and put half or less down and pay it off overtime vs wasting money on something that doesn't return. Also when you are in that position you tend to get new cars every 3to5 yrs and with all that mentioned above you are never in negative equatiy when you trade in you should be in positive equatiy and then you use that money for your down-payment on your new vehicle. Last 3 cars I have purchased I have done 0 put of pocket and rollover my equatiy as down-payment and get some cash from dealership to pay for my registration and be positive with equatiy on my new vehicle
Is it the same cp4 pump gm and ford had problems with?? Will you be coming out with any parts for this engine.?
I think it's an updated pump, so it shouldn't have the same problems.
Mine came apart at 22,000 miles. Sent metal through the whole fuel system. Been in the shop for 2 weeks.
@@scottmckaughan7916 what year?
@@ConTheDon187 2020
@@scottmckaughan7916 well then they just lied about updating it haha thats sad
RAM! Not Dodge!
Thank you thank you! At least He did start saying ram on the test drive.
What transmission does this have? You know where I am going with this....Dodge issues are the transmissions. Aisin transmissions are good. I heard Dodge was considering the Allison but do not know if they did.
It's still the 68 but the ASIN is an option if you're ordering.
@@thoroughbreddiesel which one would you pick in the diesel world between Ram 2500, F-250, GM 2500? And why?
@@juansantiago1441 ram or the ford I'd bet.
Were you all in Barboursville Wv maybe a week ago thought I saw a truck with your name on it.i have a set of new mopar doors for a 98 and up for sale if anyone is interested
You keep saying Dodge and you're looking at a Ram Truck. Dodge does not make the Ram Trucks anymore! Dodge and Ram are two separate entities!
Stupid short bed to pull trailers not good ! Long bed fully only way to go !
And the big question is have they figured out DEF yet I bought a brand new 2013/2500 first year of urea and basically used it as an around town grocery getter and pulled a fifth wheel to Florida a few times after 30,000 miles it was endless trying to get sensors and such fixed at the dealer once every two months nothing worse than seeing that you only have 200 miles travel time left
traded it in 2016 for a 2500 with a 6.4 gas couldn't deal with that diesel no more really sucks it would pull a house down but the DEF was endless nonsense
Changes like a Chinese cummins. Look it up before you hate. Just saying, we have 4 and all 4 have pump issues which threw metal in feul system before it fails.
$ 12k if you can get parts, if it dont trash more. Its that cp4.
Hate to be pulling load when it fails.
Just shuts off, no warning.
Dead duck.
Yup.
Is there seriously advertisements on those radio screens?
It’s the way of the world anymore.
Good looking truck...Same thing as it’s always been though...Best engine worst actual truck though
it aint a Dodge.....just RAM.
Not the first truck to offer 1000tq. Ford has 1050
Ford also has way higher dyno numbers
Listening is key. He said “they were the first production truck to reach 4 digit torque numbers at 1000” which is exactly correct. Ram announced their 1000 lb ft of torque numbers for the H.O. and then a few months later Ford announced their numbers for the 2020 Super Duty at 1050 lb ft.
@@SoonerMikeD they had to go way up, they kept.getting their ass kicked by less rated trucks
Short people cant reach the oil cap 🤣🤣
ACEN ... So far so good, bot ASIAN...
Why doesn’t dodge get new mirrors? Those are hideous!!!
ACEN or Aisin?
Heard cp4 is a disaster